The Better Fight; Hagler/Hearns or Hagler/Mugabi? [Archive]

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bxrfan

01-10-2008, 05:54 PM

Towards the end of his career, Marvin Hagler turned from a slick boxer-puncher into a brawler who ground down opponents. Two brutal fights of his, vs. Hearns and Mugabi, showed that change IMO. Now Hagler/Hearns is regarded as one of the best fights of all time. Hagler/Mugabi is regarded as a great fight, but not one of the best of all time. Both were exciting for various reasons, but which one do you think is the better fight?

brownpimp88

01-10-2008, 05:56 PM

mugabi fight was better to watch.

TBooze

01-10-2008, 06:08 PM

The first round of Hagler/Hearns was better than the entire Mugabi/Hagler fight.

Not that Hagler/Mugabi was bad, it was not, it is just that IMO Hearns/Hagler Round one is the finest three minutes in boxing history.

Hagler/Mugabi was a war not least because Marvelous Marvin was not quite so, and Mugabi put in a career performance.

Robbi

01-10-2008, 06:56 PM

It would be better to compare them if they lasted the same amount of time or close. One was 11 rounds the other only 3.

bxrfan

01-10-2008, 07:03 PM

It would be better to compare them if they lasted the same amount of time or close. One was 11 rounds the other only 3.

It would, but there are some that think those 3 rounds were better than those 11.

JohnThomas1

01-11-2008, 03:39 AM

RoccoMarciano

01-12-2008, 03:24 AM

I'll have to watch it again but i thought Hagler boxed after Mugabi was dangerous and landed some heavy leather in some early exchanges. IMO the Hearns fight stands way above given the combined talents, but the Mugabi defense is immensely enjoyable and Hagler showed some serious toughness and the usual supreme durabilty.

Yes, but Hearns showed "chicken legs" in his fight with Hagler. Of course he may have broken his hand on Hagler's head, but Hagler really did punish Hearns in their fight. It proved beyond a shadow of a doubt how great Hagler was.

JohnThomas1

01-12-2008, 07:17 AM

Yes, but Hearns showed "chicken legs" in his fight with Hagler. Of course he may have broken his hand on Hagler's head, but Hagler really did punish Hearns in their fight. It proved beyond a shadow of a doubt how great Hagler was.

Yeah, Hearns needed SRL's wheels so he too could play the part of teacher

:good

RoccoMarciano

01-13-2008, 05:15 AM

Yeah, Hearns needed SRL's wheels so he too could play the part of teacher

:good

Too bad he didn't have them. The only thing I seen were a couple of shaky legs.

:lol:

JohnThomas1

01-13-2008, 06:16 AM

Too bad he didn't have them. The only thing I seen were a couple of shaky legs.

:lol:

And speed and skill Marciano would have died for

:good

RoccoMarciano

01-13-2008, 06:18 AM

And speed and skill Marciano would have died for

:good

And all considered would die for Marciano's punch power..

your point in bringing up Marciano?:smoke

JohnThomas1

01-13-2008, 06:27 AM

And all considered would die for Marciano's punch power..

your point in bringing up Marciano?:smoke

Hearns hits harder P4P anyways ;)

One good turn deserves another ;)

RoccoMarciano

01-13-2008, 07:07 AM

Hearns hits harder P4P anyways ;)

One good turn deserves another ;)

And Marciano is irrelevent to this discussion. Of course, some simple minded folk always assume that will get my goat. That asssumption is, quite frankly, laughable.

redrooster

01-13-2008, 08:07 PM

Yeah, Hearns needed SRL's wheels so he too could play the part of teacher

:good

the usual excuses from a sore loser.

A great brawler will beat a chickenshit runner everytime.

Hagler-Mugabi had it's moments but this fight never would have been as big if not for Hagler's reputation. hagler-Mugabi had its moments but imo went on too long. i mean 11 rounds! No wonder Leonard was in a rush to fight him.

JohnThomas1

01-13-2008, 08:27 PM

the usual excuses from a sore loser.

No sore loser here. Hearns got a pizzling, end of story. I'm not about to go around peeling off 500 word spiels, excuses and fantasies (Ray's secret sessions on a boat with multiple ghosts of a left handed SRR, Ray's retina probs being a bit of dust in the eye, etc) because i can't deal with reality (like you and Sugar Ray) Hell, you even peel off excuses for Hearns vs Leonard just to get at the man but the rot soon changes course on Hagler - Hearns now doesn't it :lol:

God help us if Hearns got the leg massage before the Leonard fight and broke his hand 1st round :lol:

Hey maybe Hearns was 2 ounces off the right weight vs Hagler and this is why he was so fatigued first round :rofl

:hi:

redrooster

01-13-2008, 09:49 PM

Don't know why you think he needs Sugar Ray's wheels the way Tommy schooled Sugar Ray. :smoke

Hitman

01-13-2008, 09:50 PM

I would put the 6th rd of Hagler/Mugabi right up there with the 1st rd of hagler/Hearns. That was the rd hagler went to war with Mugabi and IMO broke his will, to bad no one remembers that rd because it was fantastic.

JohnThomas1

01-13-2008, 11:20 PM

Don't know why you think he needs Sugar Ray's wheels the way Tommy schooled Sugar Ray. :smoke

Well you're not exactly the epitome of intelligence now are you.

:good

RockyJim

01-14-2008, 04:34 AM

Hagler-Hearns by a mile.............................

redrooster

01-14-2008, 07:58 AM

Well you're not exactly the epitome of intelligence now are you.

:good

thats right you forgot all about the scorecards. :lol:

JohnThomas1

01-14-2008, 08:05 AM

thats right you forgot all about the scorecards. :lol:

Sure didn't forget the winner now did i?

:lol:

redrooster

01-14-2008, 09:08 AM

Sure didn't forget the winner now did i?

:lol:

You talking about wheels dummy. You said W-H-E-E-L-S, not who won the fight. That's originally what you said. Let me rmind you what you said. You said "if only he had Leonard's wheels so he could play the part of teacher". Ray Leonard did not outbox Tommy, Tommy outboxed Ray leonard. he had all the weheels he'd ever need but he just couldnt keep up with him (marvin Hagler)

JohnThomas1

01-14-2008, 09:30 AM

You talking about wheels dummy. You said W-H-E-E-L-S, not who won the fight. That's originally what you said. Let me rmind you what you said. You said "if only he had Leonard's wheels so he could play the part of teacher". Ray Leonard did not outbox Tommy, Tommy outboxed Ray leonard. he had all the weheels he'd ever need but he just couldnt keep up with him (marvin Hagler)

Well Leonard's W-H-E-E-L-S sure kept up with Hagler so your point is moot (nothing fresh there)

:yep