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RafaelGonzal
01-11-2008, 02:51 AM
He never Officially retired, is he done! whats he up to these days?
I still think he would have taken Hatton if not for the Ref and the home field advantage.

Betty Swollocks
01-11-2008, 03:10 AM
yeah me too, no doubt.
The fact he's shown no real interest in another fight also lends weight to the argument he was winding down his career and too a last big payday then ride off into the sunset. He won't fight again IMO.

Boom_Boom
01-11-2008, 03:29 AM
you know what i never understood Kosta, whats the deal with him not doing rematches?

Is he afraid that hes already been figured out?

Steel Kelly
01-11-2008, 04:01 AM
you know what i never understood Kosta, whats the deal with him not doing rematches?

Is he afraid that hes already been figured out?Who deserved a rematch with him? Mitchell got one because he injured his knee the first time.
He would have fought Phillips again but he lost to Millett in 99 so Tszyu fought Gonzalez. Judah did not deserve a rematch so i'm puzzled as to the question.
As for Tszyu fighting again....forget it he is done.

Nico
01-11-2008, 04:33 AM
Many fighters are criticized by the fans for staying in the game too long, and taking so much punishment that they seriously endanger their health and mental faculties later on in life. This is a guy who got out at exactly the right time. He has been smart with his money, and will continue to be a great ambassador for boxing outside the ropes. You can't really write the story any better than that.

I think we can all safely say this: once a fighter has reached a level where they are, without a doubt, one of the best ever in their respective weight division, they really have nothing left to prove.

sugarngold
01-11-2008, 05:09 AM
Kostya has his hands full with other business endeavors such as books and movies and goodness knows what else. He doesn't have to fight to make money any more - and seems content with the life he is currently leading. He appears to be retired from active ring life - whether he has made it official or not. I still remember when Lennox Lewis was not retired in early 2004 - then all of the sudden - he announced his retirement and I realized that he had actually been retired since 2003. Like the song goes, you don't know what you got til it's gone.

boxeo#1
01-11-2008, 05:25 AM
Well he better take a tune up, if not a few tune ups if he ever fights again. That would be wise.

Nico
01-11-2008, 05:50 AM
Well he better take a tune up, if not a few tune ups if he ever fights again. That would be wise.


What would be the point? By the time he gets in fighting shape again and takes a few tune ups, he won't even be anywhere near the same fighter he was when he fought Hatton.

Fighters always have loose ends at the end of their career. Unavenged losses, contenders that they never fought, etc. Actually, I wonder if he would ever consider training fighters. I think that would be really interesting, because he is one of the best amateurs of all time and would have a lot of knowledge to impart. And I would not want to fuck with any man who is able to endure KT's grueling training regimen!

gatorage
01-11-2008, 06:45 AM
He's 100% retired.

He's mentioned it in a russian interview, however I don't think he'll make an official announcement for a while longer, if at all. Suspect he's just quietly stepped away.

RealIzm
01-11-2008, 06:48 AM
He never Officially retired, is he done! whats he up to these days?
I still think he would have taken Hatton if not for the Ref and the home field advantage.Gee how about the deliberate shot to the nuts?

ron u.k.
01-11-2008, 07:14 AM
He never Officially retired, is he done! whats he up to these days?
I still think he would have taken Hatton if not for the Ref and the home field advantage.and so the whinge goes on.

boxeo#1
01-11-2008, 07:21 AM
What would be the point? By the time he gets in fighting shape again and takes a few tune ups, he won't even be anywhere near the same fighter he was when he fought Hatton.

Fighters always have loose ends at the end of their career. Unavenged losses, contenders that they never fought, etc. Actually, I wonder if he would ever consider training fighters. I think that would be really interesting, because he is one of the best amateurs of all time and would have a lot of knowledge to impart. And I would not want to fuck with any man who is able to endure KT's grueling training regimen!

What would be the point???!! Well to not get f*cked up of course!

FlatNose
01-11-2008, 07:43 AM
He never Officially retired, is he done! whats he up to these days?
I still think he would have taken Hatton if not for the Ref and the home field advantage.

Thats just a load of crap about Tszy losing because of the referee.
Hatton never gave him a chance to get set. It was a well thought out plan that Rick executed beautifilly. It was ballsy too, not too much unlike Kelly Pavlicks performance against Edison Miranda. Its one thing to plan to back up monsters like Tszy and Miranda, but doing it takes a lot of heart and guts and self belief. Thats why it is so annoying to see someone try to diminish Hattons accomplishment against Tszy with
all that BullS**t about home field advantage and crooked refereeing.

Sedona
01-11-2008, 08:37 AM
Thats just a load of crap about Tszy losing because of the referee.
Hatton never gave him a chance to get set. It was a well thought out plan that Rick executed beautifilly. It was ballsy too, not too much unlike Kelly Pavlicks performance against Edison Miranda. Its one thing to plan to back up monsters like Tszy and Miranda, but doing it takes a lot of heart and guts and self belief. Thats why it is so annoying to see someone try to diminish Hattons accomplishment against Tszy with
all that BullS**t about home field advantage and crooked refereeing.

Only the truth hurts.

ron u.k.
01-13-2008, 11:08 AM
Thats just a load of crap about Tszy losing because of the referee.
Hatton never gave him a chance to get set. It was a well thought out plan that Rick executed beautifilly. It was ballsy too, not too much unlike Kelly Pavlicks performance against Edison Miranda. Its one thing to plan to back up monsters like Tszy and Miranda, but doing it takes a lot of heart and guts and self belief. Thats why it is so annoying to see someone try to diminish Hattons accomplishment against Tszy with
all that BullS**t about home field advantage and crooked refereeing.your wasting your time mate.they're deluded they'll never accept their golden boy quit.it always amazes me how they never give tszyu stick for appearing to be happy to quit on his stool with only one round remaining.could you imagine if that had been hatton!

hitman_hatton1
01-13-2008, 11:13 AM
I became a fan of Kostya back 1991 at tha world amateur titles in Sydney.
When he whipped Vernon Forrest in tha final,I thought if Kostya fights like that he would be unbeatable but when he turned Pro he didnt fight like that at all and would just try and take em out with one or shots the closet Kostya came ta fighting like he did in Sydney was against tha ex lightweight champ Miguel Gonzalez.
I think if he have fought smarter he would have been a two weight divison champ??:bbb

bouncing jabs off his nugget all night. :rasta

it was beautiful leek. :yep

joe the great
01-13-2008, 11:14 AM
He should be smart like Hagler and stay retired.

sthomas
01-13-2008, 11:48 AM
I hope he officially retires now and does not fight again. A comeback @ this time would end disappointing himself and his fans.

MON
01-13-2008, 03:17 PM
His trainer would never support a comeback.

He said recently that Tszyu has dropped 20% and Hatton has improved 20%, so there's no way he can compete with the elite.

I bet he could still come back and KO people like Witter, Rees and co.

fatdrunkenslob
01-13-2008, 03:30 PM
His trainer would never support a comeback.

He said recently that Tszyu has dropped 20% and Hatton has improved 20%, so there's no way he can compete with the elite.

I bet he could still come back and KO people like Witter, Rees and co.

If he comes back it will be at 147. He stayed far too long at 140 and had trouble making weight for the Hatton fight for the first time in his career.

albeziel
01-13-2008, 04:35 PM
It will be interesting to know something but i doubt he'll be returning to boxing again

Steel Kelly
01-13-2008, 05:40 PM
Thats just a load of crap about Tszy losing because of the referee.
Hatton never gave him a chance to get set. It was a well thought out plan that Rick executed beautifilly. It was ballsy too, not too much unlike Kelly Pavlicks performance against Edison Miranda. Its one thing to plan to back up monsters like Tszy and Miranda, but doing it takes a lot of heart and guts and self belief. Thats why it is so annoying to see someone try to diminish Hattons accomplishment against Tszy with
all that BullS**t about home field advantage and crooked refereeing.First of all i am a Hatton fan but if that fight was in the USA Hatton would have been DQ'd in the 9th, the fight was even up until the 8th round and Hatton's deliberate low blow effectively ended the fight there and then. Sure Tszyu underestimated him and gave up far to many advantages but that's boxing and Tszyu paid the penalty. He was going on 36 and had fought 3 rounds in three years ! He was done before he started against a young gun like Hatton, if the fight was in 1998-2000 Tszyu would have KO'd Hatton inisde 5 rounds! As for a comeback, I don't see it happening, Tszyu had shoulder surgery again about 12 months ago and his injuries were hampering him even when he was active so there is no chance he will fight again although i think he could take Witter and Malignaggi on the same night!

RealIzm
01-13-2008, 05:48 PM
First of all i am a Hatton fan but if that fight was in the USA Hatton would have been DQ'd in the 9th, the fight was even up until the 8th round and Hatton's deliberate low blow effectively ended the fight there and then. Sure Tszyu underestimated him and gave up far to many advantages but that's boxing and Tszyu paid the penalty. He was going on 36 and had fought 3 rounds in three years ! He was done before he started against a young gun like Hatton, if the fight was in 1998-2000 Tszyu would have KO'd Hatton inisde 5 rounds! As for a comeback, I don't see it happening, Tszyu had shoulder surgery again about 12 months ago and his injuries were hampering him even when he was active so there is no chance he will fight again although i think he could take Witter and Malignaggi on the same night!Thank you mate:good I'll go a step further and say it was the dirtiest win in the history of the division...Fucking wrestler that Hatton is...I'm soo glad he got owned by PBF and the turnbuckle...fucking idiot:patsch

IrnBruMan
01-13-2008, 06:07 PM
What would be the point? By the time he gets in fighting shape again and takes a few tune ups, he won't even be anywhere near the same fighter he was when he fought Hatton.

Fighters always have loose ends at the end of their career. Unavenged losses, contenders that they never fought, etc. Actually, I wonder if he would ever consider training fighters. I think that would be really interesting, because he is one of the best amateurs of all time and would have a lot of knowledge to impart. And I would not want to fuck with any man who is able to endure KT's grueling training regimen!

He does train fighters, in the Tszyu Academy - hes' brought a few young promising Russian fighters out to Australia, and has a couple of local fighters on his books :good

Nico
01-13-2008, 07:06 PM
He does train fighters, in the Tszyu Academy - hes' brought a few young promising Russian fighters out to Australia, and has a couple of local fighters on his books :good


Ah, yes. I forgot about that. But I was thinking more along the lines of him training some of the best fighters out there.

Imagine if Kostya approached James Toney a few years ago and said, "alright man. I'm your trainer now. You take care of the skill and technique aspect. I'm in charge of your conditioning."

At the end of training camp Toney would be a middleweight again.

doomeddisciple
01-13-2008, 07:53 PM
Toney wouldn't listen to Tszyu anymore than if Hagler came to train him.

Toney is Toney.

Plus Tszyu doesn't have any steroids in his training bag.

Plus Toney is probably just as if not more skilled than Kostya - Just a different style.

Anyway -

A) Tszyu is retired for all intents and purposes. He has dropped a couple of hints last year that he was considering a fight - I wonder if that was due to Roger Mayweather dropping his name as a potential opponent if Tszyu came back and won a couple fights in a Ring mag interview last year.

I think Roger still wants to get back at Tszyu for kicking Rogers ass all over the ring in Newcastle in 95.

Ain't going to happen though.

B) Hatton fans - Tszyu has more class than a high school - He didn't complain on the night about any fouls, refereering dsecisions - Nothing. But if you're going to sit there and type that the ref did Hatton no favours then I'm afraid it's time to wipe the steam off of your one eyed fanboydom.

Ricky fought the right fight - No one is taking that away from him, including Kostya, but that referee -

* Did not take a point for the most blatant foul in title fight history this side of Duran's left hook to the balls on Ken Buchanan - And at least Johnny LoBianco was out of position for that one - Dave Parris was right there.

The belt line is commonly accepted as a legal punch - Tszyu dropped Hatton with a PERFECTLY legal shot that was ruled a low blow.

No one is taking away Ricky's achievement - But to say that the referee had no impact on a fight that Ricky would have been behind on two of the judges cards if Tszyu had been awarded the knock down and Hatton had a point taken - Then I'm afraid you're just kidding yourselves.

IrnBruMan
01-13-2008, 08:38 PM
Toney wouldn't listen to Tszyu anymore than if Hagler came to train him.

Toney is Toney.

Plus Tszyu doesn't have any steroids in his training bag.

Plus Toney is probably just as if not more skilled than Kostya - Just a different style.

Anyway -

A) Tszyu is retired for all intents and purposes. He has dropped a couple of hints last year that he was considering a fight - I wonder if that was due to Roger Mayweather dropping his name as a potential opponent if Tszyu came back and won a couple fights in a Ring mag interview last year.

I think Roger still wants to get back at Tszyu for kicking Rogers ass all over the ring in Newcastle in 95.

Ain't going to happen though.

B) Hatton fans - Tszyu has more class than a high school - He didn't complain on the night about any fouls, refereering dsecisions - Nothing. But if you're going to sit there and type that the ref did Hatton no favours then I'm afraid it's time to wipe the steam off of your one eyed fanboydom.

Ricky fought the right fight - No one is taking that away from him, including Kostya, but that referee -

* Did not take a point for the most blatant foul in title fight history this side of Duran's left hook to the balls on Ken Buchanan - And at least Johnny LoBianco was out of position for that one - Dave Parris was right there.

The belt line is commonly accepted as a legal punch - Tszyu dropped Hatton with a PERFECTLY legal shot that was ruled a low blow.

No one is taking away Ricky's achievement - But to say that the referee had no impact on a fight that Ricky would have been behind on two of the judges cards if Tszyu had been awarded the knock down and Hatton had a point taken - Then I'm afraid you're just kidding yourselves.

Great post, I agree 100%.