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Toney
01-11-2008, 02:42 PM
I am very exchited! January 24th Colin Lynes defends his 140 European title against my countryman Juho Tolppola ([Only registered and activated users can see links])! Lynes was supposed to fight Branco, but now the takes on the #9 ranked Tolppola! Great news for Finnish boxing, althought I am not sure that Tolppola will take the title...

Tolppola is a very solid boxer. Great chin, great conditioning, pretty nice overallskills, nice amateur backround, he is young and fresh... But lacs the explosineveness that top dogs have. He does everything good, but really nothing superbly. But he is a good kid, I tell you that. He is way better than he looked when he fought David Barnes back in 2005. I am 100% sure that he will at least go the distance against Lynes and I do belive that it will be a very close fight!

Here is Mr. Tolppola:

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Big Ears
01-11-2008, 02:47 PM
Anyone know why Branco pulled out ?

I'm a little disappointed as a win over Branco would certainly lead places where a win over Tolppola probably leaves Lynes where he is now .
However once it's a decent fight I'll be happy .

I reckon Lynes UD .

jc
01-11-2008, 02:56 PM
Was much more interested in the Branco fight tbh. Branco had a record, and would have been a better win. Any source onthis new match up?

I like Lynes I think he has come on leaps and bounds and will given the right direction could get a shot at a World belt (If Rees can get one...).

Dont know anything about this ''TNT''. Any real chance of an upset here?

Toney
01-11-2008, 03:15 PM
Any source onthis new match up?
The Finnish side of [Only registered and activated users can see links]

Toney
01-12-2008, 09:46 AM
Is the news already in the British press? Or are they trying to hide the chanc of Lynes´s opponent?

elle
01-12-2008, 10:32 AM
I'm a big fan of Colin Lynes so hope he can build on his success over the last year.

Boxrec isn't always the most reliable I know but they have Lynes down to face Tolppola on 25 Jan and then Branco 29 Feb?

Toney
01-12-2008, 11:46 AM
I'm a big fan of Colin Lynes so hope he can build on his success over the last year.

Boxrec isn't always the most reliable I know but they have Lynes down to face Tolppola on 25 Jan and then Branco 29 Feb?

Yeah, the Finnish press have also reported that the winner or Lynes vs. Tolppola must face the official challangher Branco latest the 29 Feb. EBU have rules it.

I lift my hat up to Lynes. He could had just postposed the Branco fight, but instead he takes on a serious challanger. Well... Most likely Lynes´s camo think that they will make easy money and have a easy night with Tolppola and then take on Branco a mounth later. But I don´t think that it will happend. Tolppola will at least give Lynes a very tough fight.

oscar
01-13-2008, 11:19 AM
Yeah, the Finnish press have also reported that the winner or Lynes vs. Tolppola must face the official challangher Branco latest the 29 Feb. EBU have rules it.

I lift my hat up to Lynes. He could had just postposed the Branco fight, but instead he takes on a serious challanger. Well... Most likely Lynes´s camo think that they will make easy money and have a easy night with Tolppola and then take on Branco a mounth later. But I don´t think that it will happend. Tolppola will at least give Lynes a very tough fight. :hi: branco fight wont happen until lynes mandatory british defence against david barnes

jc
01-13-2008, 11:24 AM
Branco is a better win than Barnes, he should dump the British title in that case.

Toney
01-13-2008, 02:08 PM
:hi: branco fight wont happen until lynes mandatory british defence against david barnes
Lynes vs. Branco won´t happend, becouse Tolppola will take Lynes´s title to Finland Jan 25th!

jc
01-13-2008, 02:13 PM
Lynes vs. Branco won´t happend, becouse Tolppola will take Lynes´s title to Finland Jan 25th!

Didnt even know the Finnish allow boxing??

Or maybe that was the Swedes, either way Lynes keeps his title.:good

Big Ears
01-13-2008, 03:06 PM
Didnt even know the Finnish allow boxing??

Or maybe that was the Swedes, either way Lynes keeps his title.:good

Sweden until recently didn't allow it , the 30th of December 1969 was the last bill there till 27th of Janurary 2007 .

Leifhackman
01-14-2008, 03:23 AM
Sweden until recently didn't allow it , the 30th of December 1969 was the last bill there till 27th of Janurary 2007 .
Yeah, they are opening up for pro-boxing again. Now they allow 4 or was is 6-round fights.

Toney
01-15-2008, 11:22 PM
I just watched some of Lynes´s fights and I feel pretty condident that Tolppola can beat Lynes. I will surely bet on it, if it will be possible. Tolppola is simply the better boxer. People need to understand that Tolppola totally outclasses guys like Muttley. Lynes vs. Tolppola will be a very hard fight. I am not saying that Tolppola will win it easily, but if Tolppola fights a good fight, he will win the European Championship Title!

oscar
01-16-2008, 12:52 PM
:nono not a chance lynes will lose this save your moneyI just watched some of Lynes´s fights and I feel pretty condident that Tolppola can beat Lynes. I will surely bet on it, if it will be possible. Tolppola is simply the better boxer. People need to understand that Tolppola totally outclasses guys like Muttley. Lynes vs. Tolppola will be a very hard fight. I am not saying that Tolppola will win it easily, but if Tolppola fights a good fight, he will win the European Championship Title!

Toney
01-16-2008, 08:53 PM
:nono not a chance lynes will lose this save your money
Have you ever seen Tolppola in action? I doubt it. Cos he is better fighter than Lynes is.

brown bomber
01-17-2008, 04:49 AM
Have you ever seen Tolppola in action? I doubt it. Cos he is better fighter than Lynes is. Funnily enough UK TV haven't shown Tolppola yet- crazy, I know.

oscar
01-17-2008, 03:29 PM
where can i get any film of him?

elle
01-18-2008, 11:12 AM
:hi: branco fight wont happen until lynes mandatory british defence against david barnes


Didn't David Barnes beat Juho Tolppola a couple of years ago?

oscar
01-18-2008, 01:05 PM
:good Didn't David Barnes beat Juho Tolppola a couple of years ago? yes he did and quite easily, some say tolppola has improved since then we shall see, barnes was on the undercard but has now withdrawn.

Toney
01-21-2008, 08:35 AM
What does you Brits think of Lynes? You think he is something like top10-top15 in world? And yeah, I do belive that Tolppola will beat him!

TomPodmore
01-21-2008, 09:57 AM
Lynes has improved greatly over the last 12-15 months. I always thought he was rigid but he looks more fluid now and the jab he tamed Mutley with was world class, as was the finish.

He looked good against Barry Morrison in the fight before that and i expect him to win again on Friday night. He looks to be too skilful, to well-rounded for the Finn.

elle
01-21-2008, 11:00 AM
Agree - for me Lynes is probably the most improved british boxer over the last year and if he is in the same form I'm hopeful he will beat Tolppola. Really looking forward to seeing this fight.

Would also love to see Lynes secure a rematch with Junior Witter.

Beeston Brawler
01-21-2008, 11:53 AM
I think Colin Lynes is much better than given credit for, certainly better than Gavin Rees.

Slightly below world class, perhaps a fringe contender like Juan Lazcano.

Fuck belts anyway, he should concentrate on getting the best opponents he can to secure a world title shot.

oscar
01-21-2008, 06:56 PM
:good well said,colin lynes would have preffered branco because of his name being known in us but he will win on friday and and then seek to fight the best available ,he has david barnes as mandatory for british and italians seem to think branco will still be mandatory after this fight, bring them on,dont forget he gave up the ibo world belt because sky wouldent televise then hatton wins it and they televise:bbb Agree - for me Lynes is probably the most improved british boxer over the last year and if he is in the same form I'm hopeful he will beat Tolppola. Really looking forward to seeing this fight.

Would also love to see Lynes secure a rematch with Junior Witter.

Beeston Brawler
01-22-2008, 04:20 AM
Nobody cares about belts really anyway these days, it's more about the two guys in the middle!

elle
01-22-2008, 05:40 AM
where can i get any film of him?


Just a suggestion but you could try asking in ESB's european section for any footage of Tolppola.

oscar
01-22-2008, 02:43 PM
:hi: anyone found any betting on this they seem to still be offering odds on branco

Leifhackman
01-23-2008, 09:06 AM
What I want about this fight primarily is that I get to see it! I hope both guys do well and that it'll be a good fight. May the better guy win... I hope it's going to be Tolppola though :D

Toney
01-23-2008, 10:18 AM
What I want about this fight primarily is that I get to see it! I hope both guys do well and that it'll be a good fight. May the better guy win... I hope it's going to be Tolppola though :D
I just want Tolppola to win the fight. I don´t care if it is a lucky punch or controversial decision or anything... Go Tolppola!

I am just little worried about how well Tolppola can make the fight. According to his trainer Pekka Mäki Tolppola weighted about 156 pounds (71 kg), when he signed fight on 9th of January. That is a lot of weight to lose in 15 days...

oscar
01-23-2008, 05:52 PM
betting lynes 1-20 or 4-9 points tolppola 7-1 or 16-1 points

Toney
01-23-2008, 11:46 PM
betting lynes 1-20 or 4-9 points tolppola 7-1 or 16-1 points
Bwin has Tolppola as a 8-1 underdog. Someone is gonna make good money! Tolppola said in the last interview in Finland that he don´t belive that it will go the distance.

dwilson
01-24-2008, 12:11 PM
Bwin has Tolppola as a 8-1 underdog. Someone is gonna make good money! Tolppola said in the last interview in Finland that he don´t belive that it will go the distance.


He's very defeatist then poor young Fin.

oscar
01-24-2008, 02:28 PM
:bbb nice to see he is confident should make for a good fight but i dont think he knows enough to beat lynes i reckon he looks for way out around 7-9 after eating a jab all night:happy Bwin has Tolppola as a 8-1 underdog. Someone is gonna make good money! Tolppola said in the last interview in Finland that he don´t belive that it will go the distance.

Toney
01-24-2008, 02:40 PM
i reckon he looks for way out around 7-9 after eating a jab all night:happy

Tolppola sure is gonna eat Lynes´s jab... For a breakfast!

I really do belive that Tolppola will take the title from Lynes! It will be a tactical fight early one... Lynes will be aggressive, but Tolppola will be very determined and land the more cleaner and harder punches. Tolppola has much tighter defence and becouse of it he can land the better shots all night long. Lynes is a bit too open and always when opponent throws a punch he takes a step back in straight line. Tolppola will figure that out early and Lynes will be rocked several times. I am not sure that will Lynes go the distance or will he just quit after 8-9 rounds... he is a bit soft boy now isn´t he? And overall Finns a lot tougher than Brits... Tolppola will show it on Friday!

oscar
01-24-2008, 04:06 PM
:think HOW many finnish champions did you say:huh Tolppola sure is gonna eat Lynes´s jab... For a breakfast!

I really do belive that Tolppola will take the title from Lynes! It will be a tactical fight early one... Lynes will be aggressive, but Tolppola will be very determined and land the more cleaner and harder punches. Tolppola has much tighter defence and becouse of it he can land the better shots all night long. Lynes is a bit too open and always when opponent throws a punch he takes a step back in straight line. Tolppola will figure that out early and Lynes will be rocked several times. I am not sure that will Lynes go the distance or will he just quit after 8-9 rounds... he is a bit soft boy now isn´t he? And overall Finns a lot tougher than Brits... Tolppola will show it on Friday!

Toney
01-24-2008, 04:41 PM
:think HOW many finnish champions did you say:huh
? We don´t have too many national title fights... Maybe 1 per a year or so... If we are lucky!

oscar
01-24-2008, 05:29 PM
? We don´t have too many national title fights... Maybe 1 per a year or so... If we are lucky! so this is a big night for Finland? in all honesty i hope juho is here to put on a good fight and may the best man win

Toney
01-24-2008, 06:09 PM
so this is a big night for Finland? in all honesty i hope juho is here to put on a good fight and may the best man win
Yeah, this is a big night for Finnish boxing. Tolppola is the 7th Finn ever to fight for the European title. Boxing is very popular in Finland today becouse of "Idi" Amin Asikainen´s success. The magazines have wrote a lot about Tolppola vs. Lynes and the fight is also show´n live in Finnish TV!

Tolppola will be a celebrated hero when he returns to Finland with the European titlebelt!

Toney
01-25-2008, 07:13 PM
Lynes was too fast for Tolppola. :-( Juho sure wasn´t at his best... maybe he had lost too much weight or maybe the 2 weeks preperatiion time was not enough... or maybe Lynes is just too good for him...

dan-b
01-25-2008, 07:14 PM
Tidy performance from Lynes. He should target a fight with Rees.

maka
01-25-2008, 07:43 PM
lynes frustrates me...... even as i sit here on my big fat couch, that jab of his is thrown as good as i've seen, but.........an theirs allways a but............. i think if he goes up against a fighter that wo'nt give him a minute.......someone who's more ruthless and maybe a little reckless he'll meet his match.

when tolpolla was goin in (on the odd occasion) and throwin bigger rights and lefts........ fighting through the jab,......i felt lynes did'nt like it at all and seemed to grab on, and i even at the end of the second round i thought lynes was a little rocked.....right on the bell.... if tollpolla had ruffed it up from the start instead of being tidy himself......which i thought he didnt do much wrong he just couldnt get by that long arm jab.......it would have been a different fight.

lynes was in his comfort zone thats for sure he took the reigns straight from the off.

wonder what branco will make of him!!!!!!!!!!!

Toney
01-25-2008, 07:54 PM
if tollpolla had ruffed it up from the start instead of being tidy himself......which i thought he didnt do much wrong he just couldnt get by that long arm jab.......it would have been a different fight.

Tolppola´s corner told all the time Tolppola to keep boxing... not to slug with Lynes. I would had liked to see what would had happened if Tolppola would had opened up... but they did not want him to do that... Well... maybe that was the right decision... Maybe Tolppola would had just been knocked out or something...

maka
01-25-2008, 08:06 PM
Tolppola´s corner told all the time Tolppola to keep boxing... not to slug with Lynes. I would had liked to see what would had happened if Tolppola would had opened up... but they did not want him to do that... Well... maybe that was the right decision... Maybe Tolppola would had just been knocked out or something...


or maybe not my friend.......a change of plan could have swung it, i thought tolpolla looked the stronger boxer when they entered the ring and that his chin looked strong and upper body.

dwilson
01-26-2008, 09:23 AM
Complete walkthrough for Lynes. I know its hard to getting decent opposition on late notice but that Juho was really poor. Even Morrison could have beaten him. Lynes needs a decent break soon to go for a world title, he probarly has the beating of Ree's and Kotleink.

rooq
01-26-2008, 09:46 AM
Complete walkthrough for Lynes. I know its hard to getting decent opposition on late notice but that Juho was really poor. Even Morrison could have beaten him. Lynes needs a decent break soon to go for a world title, he probarly has the beating of Ree's and Kotleink.

he should beat rees or kotelnik, but if rees wins his mandatory, i doubt lynes will get a look in.

dwilson
01-26-2008, 09:50 AM
he should beat rees or kotelnik, but if rees wins his mandatory, i doubt lynes will get a look in.

Lynes is still maybe a step below the elite of the division but so are Ree's ect. I can not see him getting a shot at Ree's and unless he gets a miracle he wont get a shot at another guy. Witter has already proven himself and the other big guns look on him as being just another brit fighter.

oscar
01-26-2008, 10:08 AM
:bbb no excuses please, colin just to good for juho, i shook his hand after fight for putting in a good effort, he needs to smile a bit more:smooch Lynes was too fast for Tolppola. :-( Juho sure wasn´t at his best... maybe he had lost too much weight or maybe the 2 weeks preperatiion time was not enough... or maybe Lynes is just too good for him...

Polymath
01-26-2008, 11:19 AM
Lynes has a world class jab, the rest of his game isn't that high, but that jab will take him far by itself.

jc
01-26-2008, 11:45 AM
Just saw the fight, good all round performance, no complaints. He didnt push for a KO but I dont think thats a problem, he won every round easily.

Like to see what he does next, I think he is obviosuly a level or 2 above Ted Bami, I would like to see Barry Hearn have a bit more ambition, he was shouting anyones name too loudly in the post fight interview.

Lynes beats Rees imo and Rees is a World champ. Branco would be a good fight for Lynes next, former WBC champ, good scalp. Wouldnt mind seeinf Mbaye get a shot either, then we can compare Rees and Lynes that lil bit more.

I see Lynes knocking on the door for a shot at a world belt, if he carries on the way he is going. Not sure if the Rees fight is likely because of the ******/Hearn thing, but if Rees loses his net fight Lynes should definately throw his name in the hat!

TFFP
01-26-2008, 11:53 AM
Cracking little boxer is Lynes, does everything well. If he had a bit of venom in his punches he could be world class

As it is he's probably fringe world class, because it's not a deep division. I give him a very good chance against Rees, and I'm sure he could give Malignaggi a good fight

I'd like to see him make a few defences, and then possibly get a title shot

dwilson
01-26-2008, 11:54 AM
Just saw the fight, good all round performance, no complaints. He didnt push for a KO but I dont think thats a problem, he won every round easily.

Like to see what he does next, I think he is obviosuly a level or 2 above Ted Bami, I would like to see Barry Hearn have a bit more ambition, he was shouting anyones name too loudly in the post fight interview.

Lynes beats Rees imo and Rees is a World champ. Branco would be a good fight for Lynes next, former WBC champ, good scalp. Wouldnt mind seeinf Mbaye get a shot either, then we can compare Rees and Lynes that lil bit more.

I see Lynes knocking on the door for a shot at a world belt, if he carries on the way he is going. Not sure if the Rees fight is likely because of the ******/Hearn thing, but if Rees loses his net fight Lynes should definately throw his name in the hat!

Does ****** have options on Ree's next opponent because that could make life very hard for him.

A Branco fight would be good and at this late stage in Branco's career I think Lynes could have him. Otherwise a fight against another rated fighter will be needed soon to give him a bigger push. He does not look the type to go riding his mouth to get himserlf fights and neither does Hearns. Bami can be dangerous but the real danger to look out for is Ajose who is in the wbc top 10 and looking for a serious fight. I know there has been alot of talk of people avoiding Ajose but that rating may let people want to take him on abit more.

jc
01-26-2008, 01:58 PM
I dont think its just a matter of options. ****** is just Rees' promoter, simple as that really.

Olu G. Rotimi
01-26-2008, 02:34 PM
I think Colin Lynes is much better than given credit for, certainly better than Gavin Rees.

Slightly below world class, perhaps a fringe contender like Juan Lazcano.

Fuck belts anyway, he should concentrate on getting the best opponents he can to secure a world title shot.

If Lynes ever dares to step into the ring with Ajose Olusegun you will discover Lynes true level. Lynes will be lined up and lights put out. Of course doubtful Lynes will ever develop the intestinal fortitude to face Ajose Olusegun if past history is anything to go by. Boy if he thought Malinga, Witter and Daws gave him a hard time he won't know what hit him. I apologise he probably does understand which is why he does not want it.

dwilson
01-26-2008, 02:46 PM
If Lynes ever dares to step into the ring with Ajose Olusegun you will discover Lynes true level. Lynes will be lined up and lights put out. Of course doubtful Lynes will ever develop the intestinal fortitude to face Ajose Olusegun if past history is anything to go by. Boy if he thought Malinga, Witter and Daws gave him a hard time he won't know what hit him. I apologise he probably does understand which is why he does not want it.

Ajose is good but would get beaten by most top level guys. I would love to see him fight a decent opponent who is not ripe for being destroyed. His only two foe's of note are not in Lynes class. Even though Pryce is looking good now he is focused. Lynes vs Ajose would be good and very close. But Ajose never gets himself meaningful fights, for what ever reason he has not had these so far I dont care. I have seen Ajose fight a few times now and although he does look very good he is nothing special.

Olu G. Rotimi
01-26-2008, 03:21 PM
Ajose is good but would get beaten by most top level guys. I would love to see him fight a decent opponent who is not ripe for being destroyed. His only two foe's of note are not in Lynes class. Even though Pryce is looking good now he is focused. Lynes vs Ajose would be good and very close. But Ajose never gets himself meaningful fights, for what ever reason he has not had these so far I dont care. I have seen Ajose fight a few times now and although he does look very good he is nothing special.

I don't need to argue with you. I can only question your judgement or your standards with all due respect if you consider Lynes a good fighter. Please don't make excuses for Pryce ans say he is focussed now. Ajose knocked him out as a last minute substitute going up in weight again just to get a fight. Knocking out Ali Nuumbembee was not meaningful was it. Winning the African and Commonwealth title is meaningless is it. Knocking the more experienced Martin Holgate as anovice professional is meaningless is it. Beating up Light Middleweights and Welterweights though a Junior Welterweight is meaningless is it. Please let me know why Colin Lynes avoids Ajose if he is so good. Why did he pull out of fights twice after signing the contracts after all Ajose is nothing special according to you.

Ajose is going to make another significant statement against Wright. Of course once Wright is stopped for the 1st time in his career you will no doubt have some other excuses.

Lynes please don't make me laugh as I am not convinced Lynes will beat Wright or Daws for that matter. In fact Daws stopped Lynes. Ajose could beat them all in the same night. Lynes 1st as he is the easiest of the 3.

dwilson
01-26-2008, 03:27 PM
I don't need to argue with you. I can only question your judgement or your standards with all due respect if you consider Lynes a good fighter. Please don't make excuses for Pryce ans say he is focussed now. Ajose knocked him out as a last minute substitute going up in weight again just to get a fight. Knocking out Ali Nuumbembee was not meaningful was it. Winning the African and Commonwealth title is meaningless is it. Knocking the more experienced Martin Holgate as anovice professional is meaningless is it. Beating up Light Middleweights and Welterweights though a Junior Welterweight is meaningless is it. Please let me know why Colin Lynes avoids Ajose if he is so good. Why did he pull out of fights twice after signing the contracts after all Ajose is nothing special according to you.

Ajose is going to make another significant statement against Wright. Of course once Wright is stopped for the 1st time in his career you will no doubt have some other excuses.

Lynes please don't make me laugh as I am not convinced Lynes will beat Wright or Daws for that matter. In fact Daws stopped Lynes. Ajose could beat them all in the same night. Lynes 1st as he is the easiest of the 3.

I am not saying Ajose is not very good but he needs more meaningful fights. The Wright fight is a good start. I do rate Lynes but I do not go for all the bullshit he's scared of so and so, its too much like kids playground talk. The Ali and Pryce fights were good and he did look like he was going somewhere at that time but since then he has not capitalised on his potential. Maybe he just needs the right backing or for saomeone with money to take him up and push him.

You can not knock Lynes on current form. He not only looks very good and capable of going further but he also holds the euro belt. He has shown a masterclass against decent fighters in his last few fights.

oscar
01-26-2008, 03:43 PM
:hi: when were these contracts signed ? lynes will fight allcomers anywhere as proven allready he is the champion others have to make themselves mandatorys then fight bis made or put an offer he cant refuse:bbb I don't need to argue with you. I can only question your judgement or your standards with all due respect if you consider Lynes a good fighter. Please don't make excuses for Pryce ans say he is focussed now. Ajose knocked him out as a last minute substitute going up in weight again just to get a fight. Knocking out Ali Nuumbembee was not meaningful was it. Winning the African and Commonwealth title is meaningless is it. Knocking the more experienced Martin Holgate as anovice professional is meaningless is it. Beating up Light Middleweights and Welterweights though a Junior Welterweight is meaningless is it. Please let me know why Colin Lynes avoids Ajose if he is so good. Why did he pull out of fights twice after signing the contracts after all Ajose is nothing special according to you.

Ajose is going to make another significant statement against Wright. Of course once Wright is stopped for the 1st time in his career you will no doubt have some other excuses.

Lynes please don't make me laugh as I am not convinced Lynes will beat Wright or Daws for that matter. In fact Daws stopped Lynes. Ajose could beat them all in the same night. Lynes 1st as he is the easiest of the 3.

Olu G. Rotimi
01-26-2008, 03:47 PM
I am not saying Ajose is not very good but he needs more meaningful fights. The Wright fight is a good start. I do rate Lynes but I do not go for all the bullshit he's scared of so and so, its too much like kids playground talk. The Ali and Pryce fights were good and he did look like he was going somewhere at that time but since then he has not capitalised on his potential. Maybe he just needs the right backing or for saomeone with money to take him up and push him.

You can not knock Lynes on current form. He not only looks very good and capable of going further but he also holds the euro belt. He has shown a masterclass against decent fighters in his last few fights.

I don't deal in playground talk. Ajose and Lynes were lined up to fight for the Commonwealth title. The fight contracts were signed the fighters were in training and it was to be on Sky. Lynes pulled out again a few days before the fight. He has not capitalised as he that is why he is the undefeated ABU, Commonwealt champion , WBC number 7 contender and been featured by Ring Magazine a in the last few months. Who exactly is Lynes defeating and where will he not face true tests. We saw what happened against Malinga and Daws and his pacifism against Witter. If Lynes impresses you then it obviously does not take much to impress you or that is the impression you are giving.

When did Lynes show a masterclass and please don't refer to Young Muttley.

elle
01-26-2008, 04:03 PM
Thought Lynes did superbly last year capturing the British and European Titles in the space of only six weeks.

Really pleased he got another win last night - long may his success continue.

dwilson
01-26-2008, 05:58 PM
I don't deal in playground talk. Ajose and Lynes were lined up to fight for the Commonwealth title. The fight contracts were signed the fighters were in training and it was to be on Sky. Lynes pulled out again a few days before the fight. He has not capitalised as he that is why he is the undefeated ABU, Commonwealt champion , WBC number 7 contender and been featured by Ring Magazine a in the last few months. Who exactly is Lynes defeating and where will he not face true tests. We saw what happened against Malinga and Daws and his pacifism against Witter. If Lynes impresses you then it obviously does not take much to impress you or that is the impression you are giving.

When did Lynes show a masterclass and please don't refer to Young Muttley.

Your right I should not be impressed by someone who is European champion and who defeated two very good fighters in their own back yard. And dispite what you say he has looked very good doing so. His loss to Witter even looks good now considering what Witter has gone on to do.

Ajose looked great against Pryce and Nuumbembe but his opposition since has been mediocre at best. The Reid fight has been his only decent opponent and he is more of a lightweight really with a 13-18-1 ledger. I do not doubt Ajose has some serious skills and he may go onto bigger and better titles, I definetly hope so. But to dismiss Lynes like you are is ridiculous.

The no 7 rating by the WBC is a great chance for him and I am sorry to have missed him in the Ring Mag but if he is serious about going further in his career he needs more fights like the Wright one coming up and not the guys who he has had in his last couple. He needs to make people sit up and take note of him with some more great displays.

Who would you want to put him in with realisticly next?

For me him vs Lynes would make sense to both now, both have something to gain.

Olu G. Rotimi
01-27-2008, 02:21 AM
Your right I should not be impressed by someone who is European champion and who defeated two very good fighters in their own back yard. And dispite what you say he has looked very good doing so. His loss to Witter even looks good now considering what Witter has gone on to do.

Ajose looked great against Pryce and Nuumbembe but his opposition since has been mediocre at best. The Reid fight has been his only decent opponent and he is more of a lightweight really with a 13-18-1 ledger. I do not doubt Ajose has some serious skills and he may go onto bigger and better titles, I definetly hope so. But to dismiss Lynes like you are is ridiculous.

The no 7 rating by the WBC is a great chance for him and I am sorry to have missed him in the Ring Mag but if he is serious about going further in his career he needs more fights like the Wright one coming up and not the guys who he has had in his last couple. He needs to make people sit up and take note of him with some more great displays.

Who would you want to put him in with realisticly next?

For me him vs Lynes would make sense to both now, both have something to gain.

We have wanted to beat up Lynes for years and we have even signed up to fight him. I really don't know why Lynes pulled out of the fights though I have my strong suspicions after talking to people who have sparred with him and watched him fight. Realistically after the Wright fight we will be looking to take out the WBC number 1 contender to get the mandatory position as no champion is going to face Ajose as a voluntary. I know this because if Brendan Ingle has said why would they face Ajose unless they absolutely have to. I don't think you really understand what is at stake when you fight someone like Ajose because to quote Jim Watt "Not only do you have an excellent chance of losing you likely to get seriously hurt."

By the way for all of Colin Lynes fans I don't hate or dislike the guy and he is an okay fighter by domestic stanadards but please don't mention him in World class/top international class.

oscar
01-27-2008, 02:57 AM
We have wanted to beat up Lynes for years and we have even signed up to fight him. I really don't know why Lynes pulled out of the fights though I have my strong suspicions after talking to people who have sparred with him and watched him fight. Realistically after the Wright fight we will be looking to take out the WBC number 1 contender to get the mandatory position as no champion is going to face Ajose as a voluntary. I know this because if Brendan Ingle has said why would they face Ajose unless they absolutely have to. I don't think you really understand what is at stake when you fight someone like Ajose because to quote Jim Watt "Not only do you have an excellent chance of losing you likely to get seriously hurt."

By the way for all of Colin Lynes fans I don't hate or dislike the guy and he is an okay fighter by domestic stanadards but please don't mention him in World class/top international class. taking away pryce and nuumbembe who has he beaten that should worry lynes?

Olu G. Rotimi
01-27-2008, 03:10 AM
taking away pryce and nuumbembe who has he beaten that should worry lynes?

Holgate just after a few fights as a novice professional. In fact he took the WBF intercontinental title of the much more experienced Holgate and retired Holgate who never fought again. I bumped into Holgate's manager and former trainer with my friend the late James Oyebola, who was Ajose's boxing manager and he was waxing lyrical about Ajose. It was not just that he won it was more to do with the manner of his victory as a novice professional. Also Victor Kpadenue who is basically a Middleweight Ajose had to fight to win the ABU title. Kpadenue went the distance with the hard hitting Gary Lockett. Let me let you into another secret Kpadenue could not make 140 limit for the ABU title fight but we still decided to take the fight to win the title. The point is many a times this Light Welterweight has had to fight catchweight contests winning in style.

I really think you should be asking who has Lynes faced that should make Ajose worry. We are not worried about Lynes at all but he is obviously worried about us otherwise he would have taken the fight instead of pulling out. Lynes is one of the most overrated fighters on these shores. Please don't tell me that he is better than Pryce and Nuubembee.

oscar
01-27-2008, 07:36 AM
:bbb in my opinion lynes would beat ajose no doubt, he beat muttley who kod reid sarmiento who beat schwer and ayres gallardo now latino champ and witter who on one card he only lost by one point credit where credits due he dont make the fights promotors do he will fight ANYONE he has two mandatorys barnes for british and branco for european next, lets see how ajose gets on with wright its no walkover imo Holgate just after a few fights as a novice professional. In fact he took the WBF intercontinental title of the much more experienced Holgate and retired Holgate who never fought again. I bumped into Holgate's manager and former trainer with my friend the late James Oyebola, who was Ajose's boxing manager and he was waxing lyrical about Ajose. It was not just that he won it was more to do with the manner of his victory as a novice professional. Also Victor Kpadenue who is basically a Middleweight Ajose had to fight to win the ABU title. Kpadenue went the distance with the hard hitting Gary Lockett. Let me let you into another secret Kpadenue could not make 140 limit for the ABU title fight but we still decided to take the fight to win the title. The point is many a times this Light Welterweight has had to fight catchweight contests winning in style.

I really think you should be asking who has Lynes faced that should make Ajose worry. We are not worried about Lynes at all but he is obviously worried about us otherwise he would have taken the fight instead of pulling out. Lynes is one of the most overrated fighters on these shores. Please don't tell me that he is better than Pryce and Nuubembee.

dwilson
01-27-2008, 08:05 AM
Holgate just after a few fights as a novice professional. In fact he took the WBF intercontinental title of the much more experienced Holgate and retired Holgate who never fought again. I bumped into Holgate's manager and former trainer with my friend the late James Oyebola, who was Ajose's boxing manager and he was waxing lyrical about Ajose. It was not just that he won it was more to do with the manner of his victory as a novice professional. Also Victor Kpadenue who is basically a Middleweight Ajose had to fight to win the ABU title. Kpadenue went the distance with the hard hitting Gary Lockett. Let me let you into another secret Kpadenue could not make 140 limit for the ABU title fight but we still decided to take the fight to win the title. The point is many a times this Light Welterweight has had to fight catchweight contests winning in style.

I really think you should be asking who has Lynes faced that should make Ajose worry. We are not worried about Lynes at all but he is obviously worried about us otherwise he would have taken the fight instead of pulling out. Lynes is one of the most overrated fighters on these shores. Please don't tell me that he is better than Pryce and Nuubembee.

Hopefully he will get his shot at a world title soon and a Lynes fight would make great sense for both considering one has a good wbc rating and the other a european title. Unfortunetly Ajose has had some performances that will put other fighters off but has also had performances against opposition that he should not be in the ring with at this stage of his career. He needs to put a run together against a good level of opponents and win in style hte same way witter did so that the governing bodies have no option but to give him a shot. No one will take him on as a madertory.

Olu G. Rotimi
01-27-2008, 03:05 PM
:bbb in my opinion lynes would beat ajose no doubt, he beat muttley who kod reid sarmiento who beat schwer and ayres gallardo now latino champ and witter who on one card he only lost by one point credit where credits due he dont make the fights promotors do he will fight ANYONE he has two mandatorys barnes for british and branco for european next, lets see how ajose gets on with wright its no walkover imo

Oscar I wish Lynes had your confidence as the fight would have happened long ago. Lynes does not fancy it or want it. This great fighter Lynes got stopped by Malinga and Lenny Daws and you have the audacity to claim he can beat Ajose. Boy I wish you were his manager as we would have knocked him out by now as you would have made the fight.

oscar
01-27-2008, 03:43 PM
:nono nothing audacious at all colin lynes has never avoided anyone and has improved way beyond the malinga/daws fights anyway what does he gain from a match with ajose?:think Oscar I wish Lynes had your confidence as the fight would have happened long ago. Lynes does not fancy it or want it. This great fighter Lynes got stopped by Malinga and Lenny Daws and you have the audacity to claim he can beat Ajose. Boy I wish you were his manager as we would have knocked him out by now as you would have made the fight.

Olu G. Rotimi
01-28-2008, 03:56 PM
:nono nothing audacious at all colin lynes has never avoided anyone and has improved way beyond the malinga/daws fights anyway what does he gain from a match with ajose?:think

Lynes will gain and get a good ass kicking that is what he will get in match with Ajose not to talk of a chance to fight for the Commonwealth title which he claimed hewanted until Ajose won the title. Why does he not take the fight since he is such a game fighter or is he not game. We would gladly come to his hometown to knock him out. In fact it would be a privilege as nothing beats giving a guy a good spanking in his hometown.

oscar
01-28-2008, 05:48 PM
:bbb stop trying to copy colin thats what he does best, looks like your man has to get in line so many requests on tableLynes will gain and get a good ass kicking that is what he will get in match with Ajose not to talk of a chance to fight for the Commonwealth title which he claimed hewanted until Ajose won the title. Why does he not take the fight since he is such a game fighter or is he not game. We would gladly come to his hometown to knock him out. In fact it would be a privilege as nothing beats giving a guy a good spanking in his hometown.

Olu G. Rotimi
01-31-2008, 12:06 PM
:bbb stop trying to copy colin thats what he does best, looks like your man has to get in line so many requests on table

No what Colin does best is fight scared and fight like a woman. Thats right. Put him with a real fighter and he gets what is coming to him. I have not exactly heard him request rematches with Junior Witter, Malinga and Daws for that matter. Why anyone would want to copy Lynes of all the people is beyond me.

oscar
01-31-2008, 12:30 PM
:think what would be gained from malinga or daws rematch? witter has open offer anyplace anytime,why are you so keen on ajose fighting colin you say european belt is not as good as ajose allready has:? No what Colin does best is fight scared and fight like a woman. Thats right. Put him with a real fighter and he gets what is coming to him. I have not exactly heard him request rematches with Junior Witter, Malinga and Daws for that matter. Why anyone would want to copy Lynes of all the people is beyond me.

elle
01-31-2008, 12:46 PM
Mr Olu - what is your link with Olusegun? Are you related?

dwilson
01-31-2008, 02:16 PM
Mr Olu - what is your link with Olusegun? Are you related?

Civil Partnership under European court of Law.

Olu G. Rotimi
02-02-2008, 05:16 PM
Civil Partnership under European court of Law.

I am a real man unlike you who are obviously a woman. Tell me who plays the man when you and your mate Lynes get together.

elle
02-08-2008, 06:10 PM
Oscar - do you know who and whats next for Lynes after his win over Tolppola?

oscar
02-10-2008, 06:59 AM
Oscar - do you know who and whats next for Lynes after his win over Tolppola?feelers out for a world title shot possibly get a new mandatory for ebu after branco debacle

elle
02-10-2008, 07:45 AM
feelers out for a world title shot possibly get a new mandatory for ebu after branco debacle


Hope he can build on the success he is having - seems to be in extremely good form at the moment! :good