View Full Version : Ottke, Jones Jr, Toney, Calzaghe, Benn, Collins.......
mrplow182
01-11-2008, 06:22 PM
Rank those bad boys then....... see if anyone agrees.......?
MasterCalzaghe
01-11-2008, 06:26 PM
Calzaghe
Jones
Collins
Eubank
Ottke
Benn
Toney
LuckyPunch
01-11-2008, 06:29 PM
Jones
Toney
Calzaghe
Eubank
Collins
Benn
Ottke
In their primes Jones and Toney were better fighters than Calzaghe.
Ottke was a runner and had manny hometown decisions.
@Master Calzaghe i agree
@Lucky Punch Jones was not bad but Calzaghe is a Legend
Tom_Tocca
01-11-2008, 06:36 PM
Jones
Toney
Calzaghe
Eubank
Collins
Benn
Ottke
In their primes Jones and Toney were better fighters than Calzaghe.
Ottke was a runner and had manny hometown decisions.
Toney better than JC? Even if we are going back to the early to mid 90ties, Toney relied too much on his punching power and was too inactive, just tried to lure his opponents into his prefered range - his defensive mastery would not have prevented him to loose vs. JC, who has/had great footwork and fast hands (of course not as fast as RJJs) that would have deranged Toney...
this bloke
01-11-2008, 06:37 PM
Jones
Toney
Calzaghe
Eubank
Collins
Benn
Ottke
In their primes Jones and Toney were better fighters than Calzaghe.
Ottke was a runner and had manny hometown decisions.
i agree with this list completely:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
Amsterdam
01-11-2008, 06:38 PM
Jones
Calzaghe
Toney
Eubank
Collins
Benn
Ottke
jimmy1991
01-11-2008, 06:39 PM
Jones
Toney
Calzaghe
Eubank
Collins
Benn
Ottke
In their primes Jones and Toney were better fighters than Calzaghe.
Ottke was a runner and had manny hometown decisions.
thats how i had it:good
Punisher33
01-11-2008, 06:39 PM
Jones
Toney
Calzaghe
Benn
Eubank
Collins
Ottke
Tom_Tocca
01-11-2008, 06:40 PM
RJJ
JC
Collins
Toney
Eubank
Benn
Ottke
LuckyPunch
01-11-2008, 06:40 PM
Toney better than JC? Even if we are going back to the early to mid 90ties, Toney relied too much on his punching power and was too inactive, just tried to lure his opponents into his prefered range - his defensive mastery would not have prevented him to loose vs. JC, who has/had great footwork and fast hands (of course not as fast as RJJs) that would have deranged Toney...
Ok, you have a point. Stylistically Calzaghe is a bad matchup for Toney, but Toney in his prime was a master!
Amsterdam
01-11-2008, 06:41 PM
Jones
Toney
Calzaghe
Eubank
Collins
Benn
Ottke
In their primes Jones and Toney were better fighters than Calzaghe.
Ottke was a runner and had manny hometown decisions.
Only a supernatural can defeat a supernatural in a prime/prime match up and Toney's certainly not a supernatural, though he did lose handily to a supernatural in Roy Jones, who's possibly the most supernatural fighter ever.
LuckyPunch
01-11-2008, 06:43 PM
@Master Calzaghe i agree
@Lucky Punch Jones was not bad but Calzaghe is a Legend
A legend? Common, Calzaghe has never fought another p4p Top fighter! Lacy and Kessler were verry notable wins, but not great, and Ubank was past his prime when Calzaghe fought him. Jones was on another level than Calzaghe. Before he fought Ruiz Jones was unbelievable. I know, Jones has not fought manny greats himself, but its the way he fought, you could clearly see he was something special when you saw him fight, doesnt matter who the opponent was.
Shadowbox39
01-11-2008, 06:44 PM
Jones
Toney
Calzaghe
Eubank
Benn
Collins
Ottke
Jones and Toney at their prime were amazing to watch in the ring!
ThePlugInBabies
01-11-2008, 06:47 PM
Calzaghe
Jones
Collins
Eubank
Ottke
Benn
Toney
:rofl
you tit.
benn puts ottke to sleep, brutally. can't be having collins above either benn or eubank either despite his wins over them. they were both post prime by the time he got to both fighters, he admitted so himself.
Tom_Tocca
01-11-2008, 06:47 PM
A legend? Common, Calzaghe has never fought another p4p Top fighter! Lacy and Kessler were verry notable wins, but not great, and Ubank was past his prime when Calzaghe fought him. Jones was on another level than Calzaghe. Before he fought Ruiz Jones was unbelievable.
I think anyone would agree that RJJs win against Toney is equal to JCs win over Kessler in terms of domination an their respective standings at the time of their fights...
mrplow182
01-11-2008, 06:48 PM
Would anyone change their rankings if JC beat RJJ late this year?? I mean are we ranking on past skills and potential outcomes or on what these guys did as SMWs ?
I mean technicaly Sven Ottke was unbeatable.......
Roy Jones
Joe Calzaghe
James Toney
Steve Collins
Chris Eubank
Nigel Benn
Sven Ottke
If Joe meets and beats Roy I'd swap them personally, but hey it's all opinions!
Claypole
01-11-2008, 06:49 PM
Calzaghe
Jones
Collins
Eubank
Ottke
Benn
ToneyYou have Ottke above Benn. I presume you are joking???
Smazz20
01-11-2008, 06:51 PM
Jones
Calzaghe
Eubank
Toney
Benn
Collins
Ottke
1) Roy Jones
2) James Toney
Joe Calzaghe
4) Steve Collins
5) Nigel Benn
6) Chris Eubank
7) Sven Ottke
JMotrain
01-11-2008, 06:53 PM
1. Jones
2. Calzaghe
3. Toney
4. Eubank
5. Benn
6. Collins
7. Ottke
Pimp C
01-11-2008, 08:10 PM
Calzaghe
Jones
Collins
Eubank
Ottke
Benn
Toney
Jones
Toney
Calzaghe
Eubank
Collins
Benn
Ottke
David B
01-11-2008, 08:41 PM
Jones
Calzaghe
Benn
Toney
Eubank
Collins
Ottke
Big N Bad
01-11-2008, 08:45 PM
Rank those bad boys then....... see if anyone agrees.......?
Toney
jones jr
Eubank
calzaghe
benn
Collins
Ottke
Big N Bad
01-11-2008, 08:46 PM
Calzaghe
Jones
Collins
Eubank
Ottke
Benn
Toney
man you dont know shit about boxing :-(
Fighting Weight
01-11-2008, 08:51 PM
Jones
Toney
Benn/Eubank/Calzaghe about even
Collins
Ottke
Calzaghe / Jones Jr
Toney
Benn
Collins
Ottke
Smazz20
01-11-2008, 09:18 PM
Calzaghe / Jones Jr
Toney
Benn
Collins
Ottke
Eubank?:blood
Eubank?:blood
He doesn't make the cut ;)
Calzaghe / Jones Jr
Toney
Eubank
Benn
Collins
Ottke
Irländsk
01-11-2008, 09:51 PM
1.Calzaghe
2.Jones
3.Toney
4.Collins
5.Eubank
6.Benn
7.Ottke
Jones
Toney
Calzaghe
Eubank
Collins
Benn
Ottke
thanosone
01-12-2008, 12:38 AM
Only a supernatural can defeat a supernatural in a prime/prime match up and Toney's certainly not a supernatural, though he did lose handily to a supernatural in Roy Jones, who's possibly the most supernatural fighter ever.
Shut the fuck you fucking homo. WTF is a supernatural?? Fucking idiot you sure you like boxing>?
SugarShane_24
01-12-2008, 01:10 AM
Based on achievements, it's:
1. Calzaghe
2. Ottke
3. Benn
4. Toney
5. Eubank
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Jones
But skil comparison and who will beat whom, it's:
Jones
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Calzaghe
Eubank
Benn
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Ottke
Sort of like that.
cuchulain
01-12-2008, 02:06 AM
Jones
Calzaghe
Toney
Eubank
Collins
Benn
Ottke
I might switch Collins and Eubank.
Otherwise, that is the correct answer.
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