Roy Jones Jr. vs. Bob Foster at Heavyweight

[cross_trainer]

The Foster who faced Ali versus the Jones who faced Ruiz.

Who wins?

[round15]

Bob Foster, probably KO's Jones late. Physically he's taller than Jones and his right hand is legendary in the light heavyweight ranks. If Jones doesn't hurt Foster in the early to middle rounds, I'd say Foster takes him later in the fight. Speed could be the ultimate factor in this matchup if both fighters weigh close to 200lbs on fight night. It's a no brainer that Jones would be slower, not significantly slower but considerably slower as a heavyweight.

[Titan1]

Foster coldcocks Jones around the third round.

[acb]

Foster is a horrible style for Roy at any weight. Height, Jab, and a mean punch. Right hand ends it in the mid rounds.

[ironchamp]

Roy Jones, he had the speed power and athletcism to keep Foster at bay and win a lopsided decision.

[acb]

Roy Jones, he had the speed power and athletcism to keep Foster at bay and win a lopsided decision.

Huh? At bay is Foster´s advantage.

[Sweet Pea]

Huh? At bay is Foster´s advantage.:lol: True. He'd catch Jones sooner or later.

[ironchamp]

:lol: True. He'd catch Jones sooner or later.

Lets not forget, Jones could crack at LHW. His power is underrated because he never committed to his punches. He employed a safety first technique that ensured that he'd go through the fight without taking any damage; which I would imagine would be necessary against Foster. I like Bob Foster; I think he's a terrific fighter possibly a top 5 LHW. But Jones would simply outpoint him. The handspeed and footspeed would do the trick.

[Sweet Pea]

Lets not forget, Jones could crack at LHW. His power is underrated because he never committed to his punches. He employed a safety first technique that ensured that he'd go through the fight without taking any damage; which I would imagine would be necessary against Foster. I like Bob Foster; I think he's a terrific fighter possibly a top 5 LHW. But Jones would simply outpoint him. The handspeed and footspeed would do the trick.I doubt it. It would be hard to pop in and out on a fighter with such a great height and reach advantage, especially one who times so well. I can't see Jones having any real offensive success in this bout if he were to keep his distance for that reason. Therefore I can't see him winning the fight. Foster's range and timing would be Jones's downfall. He's no Richard Hall.

[he grant]

I happen to like Jones and feel that today many have turned on him and even have some reason to .... that ramble being completed, Foster is a terrible match up for him ... Bob was a natural light heavy ... I cannot see him losing and if he hit Roy once, forget it ...

[Loewe]

Well, Foster had a good Jab and a very good right hand that going along with his reach and height advantage would be enough. To beat a speedster like Jones you need a good jab. I think Foster would keep Jones at bay with his jab and use it also to set up his right hand which would land flush around the midrounds and finish the fight with Foster beeing slightly ahead on the cards.

[Hatesrats]

Bob Foster by KO

[fists of fury]

The Jones that fought Ruiz would beat the Foster that fought Ali and Frazier, and quite easily.
Jones was a rock hard 193 vs. Ruiz, and still very, very quick. He could hit too, wobbling Ruiz briefly in the 4th round. His punches appeared to be harder than Ruiz's.

He would be stronger and faster than Foster, and would dictate the pace of the fight.
Jones may even stop him.

[Ezzard]

Foster by KO... Just a match up Jones cannot win. And besides the styles suiting Foster, Foster was also simply a better fighter at this weight.

[Senya13]

Great reach advantage, my ass!
Glen Wolfe 77"
Eric Harding 77"
Richard Hall 77.5"
Mike McCallum 78"
Virgil Hill 78"
Derrick Harmon 78"
John Ruiz 78"
Julio Gonzalez 79"

Bob Foster 79"
Foster's reach won't help him anyhow, especially that he wasn't any faster than above fighters, and *very* predictable.

[Loewe]

Great reach advantage, my ass!
Glen Wolfe 77"
Eric Harding 77"
Richard Hall 77.5"
Mike McCallum 78"
Virgil Hill 78"
Derrick Harmon 78"
John Ruiz 78"
Julio Gonzalez 79"

Bob Foster 79"
Foster's reach won't help him anyhow, especially that he wasn't any faster than above fighters, and *very* predictable.

If you take out McCallum none of them is even near the class of Foster and McCallum was something like 100years when Jones fought him. I´m pretty sure Foster knows how to use his reach advantage, jab and good timing to beat Jones.

[Senya13]

What class? Where was his class against Doug Jones, Mauro Mina, Ernie Terrell, Zora Folley? He could look good against ancient Dick Tiger (as ancient as McCallum) and against mediocrities during his reign, but his class disappeared whenever his advantage in size was neutralized one way or another. He was slow, clumsy, predictable, lacked footwork, lacked quality in both defensive and offensive skills (they were only average).

[Loewe]

What class? Where was his class against Doug Jones, Mauro Mina, Ernie Terrell, Zora Folley? He could look good against ancient Dick Tiger (as ancient as McCallum) and against mediocrities during his reign, but his class disappeared whenever his advantage in size was neutralized one way or another. He was slow, clumsy, predictable, lacked footwork, lacked quality in both defensive and offensive skills (they were only average).

Okay. You disqulified yourself in this discussion. Talking about one of the greatest lhws to have no class. At least he faced the best at his weight and hw, not like a certain fighter.

[Senya13]

His reign at light heavyweight was much poorer than Jones' reign at the same weight. When did Foster face Galindez or Conteh? Faced the best, yeah, right!

[Loewe]

His reign at light heavyweight was much poorer than Jones' reign at the same weight. When did Foster face Galindez or Conteh? Faced the best, yeah, right!

When did Jones face DM?

[Senya13]

Did I make claim that "RJJ had met all best fighters at his weight" anywhere?

[Loewe]

Did I make claim that "RJJ had met all best fighters at his weight" anywhere?

Nah, but if you talking about Foster not meeting the best of his day, well, that game can be played the other way round also. Btw. facing Frazier and Ali excuses him a little bit don´t you think? Oh, and Foster´s more proven on hw than Jones but i don´t think that this is that important here since both did their best work at lhw.

[fists of fury]

Oh, and Foster´s more proven on hw than Jones

Not really. He lost every time he stepped up. We can look at the competition, but a fact's a fact.

[OBCboxer]

When did Jones face DM?

No, when did DM fight Jones? Jones was the bigger star at the time and DM should have come to America.

[Loewe]

No, when did DM fight Jones? Jones was the bigger star at the time and DM should have come to America.

He wasn´t a bigger star over here. Actually the casual fan don´t even know Jones. That´s also an absolute no argument. If Jones would have wanted to prove himself against the best and build a legacy than he would have come over here. Look at past greats, they proved they could beat their opponents also on their home turf.

[Ezzard]

He wasn´t a bigger star over here. Actually the casual fan don´t even know Jones. That´s also an absolute no argument. If Jones would have wanted to prove himself against the best and build a legacy than he would have come over here. Look at past greats, they proved they could beat their opponents also on their home turf.

Agreed, if people are going to throw around a top 20 p4p place (ludicrous IMO) then the guy getting it has the responsibility to make the fights happen. He didn't. What else is there to say?

[JohnThomas1]

He was slow, clumsy, predictable, lacked footwork, lacked quality in both defensive and offensive skills (they were only average).

You outta be ashamed Senya :lol:

[Senya13]

He was all that. Slow. Clumsy (understandable due to his build). And he didn't have anything beside a jab, the rest was average.

[Ezzard]

Just an average guy who was head and shoulders above all of the other average guys.

No quality in his offensive skills... So predictable opponents couldn't see the killer punch coming.

Couldn't carry Glen Johnson's ...

[Senya13]

When I see fighters like Ross, Robinson, Gavilan, Giardello, etc, several seconds of the film are enough to realize how special their skills are. When I see Foster, many fights are not enough to find anything special about him skillwise, other than his jab. Size, power and jab can get you pretty far, but take one or two of these assets away (for example, when Foster was facing bigger guys than himself, who were far from great) and he's average at best, due to his fragile chin he's even below average. I think almost any heavyweight champion in history would put him away without much problem.

[Sweet Pea]

I just now realized this bout was at HW. That could change things honestly.

[JohnThomas1]

He was all that. Slow. Clumsy (understandable due to his build). And he didn't have anything beside a jab, the rest was average.

Yeah, average power, average left hook etc :lol:

[JohnThomas1]

When I see fighters like Ross, Robinson, Gavilan, Giardello, etc, several seconds of the film are enough to realize how special their skills are. When I see Foster, many fights are not enough to find anything special about him skillwise, other than his jab. Size, power and jab can get you pretty far, but take one or two of these assets away (for example, when Foster was facing bigger guys than himself, who were far from great) and he's average at best, due to his fragile chin he's even below average. I think almost any heavyweight champion in history would put him away without much problem.

You laud a Montell Griffin and told us he was great in some ways yet totally write off Foster. Foster would leave your beloved Montell a quivering wreck, no matter what weight he was born into.

[Senya13]

Only a fool would say his power was average. I was speaking about skills. There was nothing special about his left hook. Only his jab was great, the rest was average.

Foster would be missing a LOT more often against Griffin than he was used to. Tiger was old and slow, yet Foster was missing lots of punches, not being able to land anything flush for a while. He would catch Griffin eventually, but before that happens he would look like a clueless newbie skillwise.

[JohnThomas1]

Well i am happy to throw out your opinion on this occasion. You and Foster just don't gel

:good

[Senya13]

We have different scales of skills measurements is all. What you consider special I may consider average. I have relatively higher requirements to call some fighter or some skills special, and don't give a damn about fighter's fame or experts' opinions.