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joe33
07-06-2007, 02:15 PM
Serioulsy if he get taking out by a brutal KO,what will he then do,do you think he will retire?
Say he though losses on points?,would that make the loss any better to take.
It has taking a long time to rebuild him,and still there is soemthing about the guy i dont like or trust in terms of what he does in the ring,outside i like him,he is always in shape and seems a clever guy.
But even when he beat peters,he still looked shit scared at times,when he got hit,and of course went down 3 times,though some were defintly behind his head.
But id like to hear from the guys here,what way back if he losses do you see for him,or after another loss do you think he should call it quits?

RAMPAGE0017
07-06-2007, 02:15 PM
If wlad losses then what?



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Shpion
07-06-2007, 02:24 PM
Serioulsy if he get taking out by a brutal KO,what will he then do,do you think he will retire?
Say he though losses on points?,would that make the loss any better to take.
It has taking a long time to rebuild him,and still there is soemthing about the guy i dont like or trust in terms of what he does in the ring,outside i like him,he is always in shape and seems a clever guy.
But even when he beat peters,he still looked shit scared at times,when he got hit,and of course went down 3 times,though some were defintly behind his head.
But id like to hear from the guys here,what way back if he losses do you see for him,or after another loss do you think he should call it quits?

I really don't see him losing on points. If he loses, it will be via a Ko. But if he does lose, I have a feeling we are for another "The revange of the brother" type of fight where Vitaly will mop the floor with Brewster. As far as Vlad concerned, he will brobably fight for another title after a couple of confidence builders.

Marciano Frazier
07-06-2007, 02:24 PM
Well, a brutal knockout loss tomorrow night would pretty much bury once-and-for-all any ideas of Wlad becoming an all-time great. It would also knock him off his perch as the world #1 and push him squarely back into the pack with the other contenders, and make it pretty clear that he was not the savior of the division who would rule the roost for this generation. However, he is still young enough and talented enough that he could continue to win a lot of big fights and make big money for a few more years, particularly if it remains the way it has the last few years and no dominant figure comes in to take over.

A points loss wouldn't be quite so bad, as it would probably actually help increase the credibility of his chin that he went all 12 rounds, and it might be disputed/debatable, which would make its impact on his image less severe. It would basically have a less severe version of the effects described above.

1lehudson
07-06-2007, 02:38 PM
there will be a 48 hour "moment of silence" to moarn the death of a boxing career.:yep

chliJs
07-06-2007, 03:17 PM
Well, a brutal knockout loss tomorrow night would pretty much bury once-and-for-all any ideas of Wlad becoming an all-time great. It would also knock him off his perch as the world #1 and push him squarely back into the pack with the other contenders, and make it pretty clear that he was not the savior of the division who would rule the roost for this generation. However, he is still young enough and talented enough that he could continue to win a lot of big fights and make big money for a few more years, particularly if it remains the way it has the last few years and no dominant figure comes in to take over.

A points loss wouldn't be quite so bad, as it would probably actually help increase the credibility of his chin that he went all 12 rounds, and it might be disputed/debatable, which would make its impact on his image less severe. It would basically have a less severe version of the effects described above.

a point loss wouldn't be bad? against brewster? a point loss would be even worse than a loss because of his glass chin. it would prove that wlad not only can't take pressure, which has already been shown, but that his qualities as a boxer are also limited. no matter how he loses, a loss would be terrible for him, but "on points it's not so bad" is wrong, in fact it would be really bad for him to lose this way.

FlatNose
07-06-2007, 03:20 PM
Wlad is never more than a fight or two away from a comeback.I mean, he came back from a tko loss to Ross Purity for Christs sake.If he loses to a legitimate contender, he can come back, sure!

RUSKULL
07-06-2007, 03:27 PM
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Skital
07-06-2007, 03:32 PM
Then I guess that means he didn't win.

Heavyrighthand
07-06-2007, 03:36 PM
I really don't see him losing on points. If he loses, it will be via a Ko. But if he does lose, I have a feeling we are for another "The revange of the brother" type of fight where Vitaly will mop the floor with Brewster. As far as Vlad concerned, he will brobably fight for another title after a couple of confidence builders.

That's what I think would happen, too. He makes too much money, and has done this too long to retire after only his fourth loss, and after being seen as the best heavy out there. Even if he were to lose to Brewster, Wlad would fight on, certainly.

J_Roth
07-06-2007, 03:36 PM
I don't think a loss crushes his chance at being champ. It coul dbe Lamon has his number. There are some match ups like that. Brewster is a tough guy. He is a task for anyone to beat. If Wlad loses he should certainly evaluate his goals as a boxer.

Heavyrighthand
07-06-2007, 03:39 PM
a point loss wouldn't be bad? against brewster? a point loss would be even worse than a loss because of his glass chin. it would prove that wlad not only can't take pressure, which has already been shown, but that his qualities as a boxer are also limited. no matter how he loses, a loss would be terrible for him, but "on points it's not so bad" is wrong, in fact it would be really bad for him to lose this way.

I agree. A loss on points would be the worst possible scenario for young Klit.

Charles187
07-06-2007, 03:41 PM
Then he retires......i hope

brooklyn1550
07-06-2007, 03:48 PM
Then he is back to where he was when he lost to Lamon the 1st time, or he calls it quits

Ramon Rojo
07-06-2007, 03:52 PM
Serioulsy if he get taking out by a brutal KO,what will he then do,do you think he will retire?


Hopefully, he has already been brutally KOīd twice before and it wouldnīt be worth continuing.

Heīs a smart guy and i wouldnīt want to see his brain beaten in if he donīt succeed.

RonnieHornschuh
07-06-2007, 04:00 PM
klitschko can't lose, on points. brewster is an easy target, he will take a couple of hundred shots if it goes the full distance. if wlad loses this one, then he won't be the man of the 00's, just a two time champion. i doubt though that wlad will lose, brewster can't win everytime on ko (brew lost to shufford and egg chinned etienne) and wlad is the best boxer he has ever faced. wlad and his team will make sure that such a meltdown won't happen again and in the later rounds brewster will be tired though he will explode once in a while. wlad has be very concentrated the whole fight, but i think in the later rounds wlads powershots will be too much for brewster. everyone is ko-able or at least tko-able.

tragicliston
07-06-2007, 04:09 PM
In today's heavweight division nobody is finished, regardless of how badly they might lose. (*cough* Golata *cough*). That said, if Klitschko does lose, any legacy he hopes to attain goes right out the window. He'll be remembered as a guy with a ton of talent who just couldn't take it to the next level.

Bazooka
07-06-2007, 05:31 PM
if he losses Vitali takes on Lamon you know how they roll.

joe33
07-06-2007, 05:35 PM
I wonder how lamon will fight him,will he try and bang him out early if he can,or will he try and see if wlads stamina is any better this time,id say yes it is,hes done well since the losses,but i see lamon having to get through a lot of punches to get a chance for a big shot,but he may very well be able to do just that.
Out of interest,im not to hot on lamons career since he beat wlad,has he been any good?,been fighting a lot,ive kind of lost interest in HWs since i cant damn well ever see them live,since i dumped sky tv.

joeboxer
07-06-2007, 08:02 PM
Serioulsy if he get taking out by a brutal KO,what will he then do,do you think he will retire?
Say he though losses on points?,would that make the loss any better to take.
It has taking a long time to rebuild him,and still there is soemthing about the guy i dont like or trust in terms of what he does in the ring,outside i like him,he is always in shape and seems a clever guy.
But even when he beat peters,he still looked shit scared at times,when he got hit,and of course went down 3 times,though some were defintly behind his head.
But id like to hear from the guys here,what way back if he losses do you see for him,or after another loss do you think he should call it quits?I doubt he retires. He is only 31. He has come back from ko losses in the past. I think todays heavyweights will keep coming back until they are 50.

2smart4u
07-06-2007, 08:06 PM
:good He's going to win and do it easy ! :deal

nervousxtian
07-06-2007, 08:10 PM
Wlad loses, he needs to retire.

Sundance
07-06-2007, 08:17 PM
Brewster's best chance is the single shot/haymaker and hope Wlad's conditioning is as bad as the first fight. Brewster was lucky to survive the third round and gas the under par Wlad, don't see history repeating. Wlad can only lose by being stopped or KO'd, but he won't want a UD. He should take Brewster into the later rounds, were the deep water will expose the crouchy, easy to hit Mr Brewster. Keep him out of range and finish him late on when frustration and tiredness set in.

jopez707
07-06-2007, 08:26 PM
I think a points decision is nearly an impossibility. Its pretty hard for a fighter to go twelve rounds with Klitschko; Peter did but he has superior chin and hasnt taken the punnishment that Brewster has in his career already. Brewster has been in some life and death battles in recent years, I think his chin is starting to crumble a little. If Liakhovich would have pushed more I think he could have tko'd brewster. If Klitschko wins a points decision; it will be becase Brewster stood up to 12 rounds of pounding. If Brewster wins a decision it will be because he dropped Klitschko a few times(because I believe that Brewster will probably lose almost every round he doesnt score a knockdown in). I think a tko stoppage for Klitschko is most likely.

WiDDoW_MaKeR
07-06-2007, 08:36 PM
If Wlad loses then he has another loss on his record, and has a chance to grow with that loss, just as he did in the past. He just turned 31 and is still young in the division.

1lehudson
07-07-2007, 12:19 AM
If Wlad loses then he has another loss on his record, and has a chance to grow with that loss, just as he did in the past. He just turned 31 and is still young in the division.HMM that's one way to look at it...:nut

Cuz we all know that fighters cant wait to lose a fight so they can learn from it:roll:

Marciano Frazier
07-07-2007, 12:35 AM
a point loss wouldn't be bad?
Why don't you quote what I wrote rather than pulling something out of the air that I never said or implied? I said a points loss "wouldn't be quite so bad" as a knockout loss.

against brewster? a point loss would be even worse than a loss because of his glass chin. it would prove that wlad not only can't take pressure, which has already been shown, but that his qualities as a boxer are also limited. no matter how he loses, a loss would be terrible for him, but "on points it's not so bad" is wrong, in fact it would be really bad for him to lose this way.
I disagree. Brewster is a crude boxer, but he's tough as nails with a good punch and, when he's in shape, he has decent stamina and is one of the most relentless guys out there. If this fight were a war and Brewster got a close/disputed decision or something of that ilk, Wlad might even gain respect in some circles.

WiDDoW_MaKeR
07-07-2007, 01:03 AM
HMM that's one way to look at it...:nut

Cuz we all know that fighters cant wait to lose a fight so they can learn from it:roll:
Where did I say that? I sure as hell didn't convey that I felt he was looking forward to losing the fight so that he could learn from it. I am simply pointing out the simple answer to the question. Although, I know must of the so called boxing fans out there act like a fighter has to retire everytime that he loses. I mean... boxers aren't allowed to lose anymore. They are either shot, overrated, glass chinned, no heart, ect...

It can't be as simple as two top heavyweight get into the ring... both of them heavy hitters and anything could happen. If Wladimir won by knockout in the 2nd, or lost by knockout in the 2nd... it wouldn't make him anyone different. Anyone can get knocked out by a devastating puncher. Wlad is always going to have his amazing skill set whether he wins or not. And his chance of winning will always be greater than his chance of losing.

Boom_Boom
07-07-2007, 01:06 AM
He'll run for mayor

aliwasthegreatest
07-07-2007, 01:50 AM
i think wlad will win by early KO.

Martini643
07-07-2007, 02:22 AM
if it is an all out war and klitschko gets ko'd , it isnt as bad as him being outboxed by Brewster and losing a decision. If Wlad gets ko'd he can still come back

Ambition_Def
07-07-2007, 03:55 AM
If Waldo loses then the division has lost it's next Lennox Lewis.

And that isn't a bad thing by any stretch. Actually very good for boxing fans.

Then perhaps Waldo will take Manny with him into professional wrestling.