View Full Version : Who will be Britains next world Champion???
victorhugo4222
06-18-2007, 02:42 PM
Who do you think will be the UK's next world champion and by that i mean proper not any of thiis WBU crap?
achillesthegreat
06-18-2007, 02:54 PM
A REAL champ, David Haye. A titlist, Cook or Arthur!
IronBull
06-18-2007, 02:55 PM
amir khan.
sandwichsurgeon
06-18-2007, 03:00 PM
amir khan.
He distinctly said NO WBU, Frank will do his usual shit for 5 years then get him the WBO
He distinctly said NO WBU, Frank will do his usual shit for 5 years then get him the WBO
Depends who the WBO champ at lightweight is at the time I spose. Right now that have Diaz and Katsidis, not a bad way to go win for firt world title belt is it...
ofcourse I expect the WBO to be chosen but have a feeling Khan is more willing to put his footdown more than some of his predecessors.
joe33
06-18-2007, 03:14 PM
Haye probaly,but i have a feeling khan is the real deal,and will do some serious damge in all the different belts if he gets the chance,though i also have a feeling he may have a weak chin,what with him fighting non punchers so far,we shall see i guess.
IronBull
06-18-2007, 03:15 PM
He distinctly said NO WBU, Frank will do his usual shit for 5 years then get him the WBO
Khan will skip WBU title and fight for WBC/WBA, etc. Watch his recent video interview.. he know WBU is not a great title.
victorhugo4222
06-18-2007, 03:32 PM
amir khan.
So you think there will be no other World Champ for a while then? Cause Khan is a helluva long way from a world title in fact i think hes going to struggle to win the commonwealth against Limond neveer mind win anything else and even if he does we all know FW next step will be the WBU and we all know were that leads to usually with the exception of Ricly Hatton... nowhere!!!
Smith
06-18-2007, 05:11 PM
A REAL champ, David Haye. A titlist, Cook or Arthur!
Spot on :good
brown bomber
06-18-2007, 05:51 PM
Haye without question.
Any news on Hayes title fight by the way?
nicky cook is the next brit fighter to be fighting for a world title, and he'll have a pretty good chance of winning, so i'll say cookie.
after that, hopefully haye will get his chance in the autumn
Hitman_Hatton
06-18-2007, 07:21 PM
Haye closely followed by Carl Froch.
BigEars
06-18-2007, 07:22 PM
nicky cook is the next brit fighter to be fighting for a world title, and he'll have a pretty good chance of winning, so i'll say cookie.
after that, hopefully haye will get his chance in the autumn
Arthur will be next after that but Haye will be the first to have a craic at the proper(real) title . Cook and Arthur will probably win and then be matched softly by Warren , which is a real shame as I like both fighters and am quite a big fan of Arthur .
Dunky McCafferty
06-18-2007, 09:57 PM
A REAL champ, David Haye. A titlist, Cook or Arthur!
Oh come on Achilles, even you know the WBO is classed as a legit title now. In fact, HBO class it as one of their 'Big 4'
So you have to accept it mate, the WBO champion is more than a belt holder. Anyone who says the WBO title isnt a biggie nowadays is sooking on sour grapes, & living in the past.
David UK
06-19-2007, 01:31 AM
I doubt Cook will win his title fight
Amsterdam
06-19-2007, 02:03 AM
amir khan.
And yet you all ask why I despise Khan's little fantasy land.:lol: :patsch
Amsterdam
06-19-2007, 02:04 AM
Oh come on Achilles, even you know the WBO is classed as a legit title now. In fact, HBO class it as one of their 'Big 4'
So you have to accept it mate, the WBO champion is more than a belt holder. Anyone who says the WBO title isnt a biggie nowadays is sooking on sour grapes, & living in the past.
Aye Dunky, WBO does mean something, I say this supporting Arthur and downing a bottle of Irn Bru.:D
Olu G. Rotimi
06-19-2007, 10:53 AM
Britan next world champions and by this I include British based fighter as well will be David Haye, Carl Froch, Ajose Olusegun and Tshifiwai Munyai. Maybe Action Jackson Asiku. I am not sure of Amir Khan yet so I am reserving judgement until he steps up in class
brown bomber
06-19-2007, 12:55 PM
Britan next world champions and by this I include British based fighter as well will be David Haye, Carl Froch, Ajose Olusegun and Tshifiwai Munyai. Maybe Action Jackson Asiku. I am not sure of Amir Khan yet so I am reserving judgement until he steps up in class I was moderately impressed with Ajose the other night but do not think at this stage he is capable of having success against Witter or Hatton. Munyai was nailed far too much too.
BigEars
06-19-2007, 12:59 PM
Oh come on Achilles, even you know the WBO is classed as a legit title now. In fact, HBO class it as one of their 'Big 4'
So you have to accept it mate, the WBO champion is more than a belt holder. Anyone who says the WBO title isnt a biggie nowadays is sooking on sour grapes, & living in the past.
He might be reffering to the fact that Mormeck is the real champ at Cruiserweight being Ring champ and having beaten Bell who unified the 3 titles and of course Mormeck unified two and still holds two . Mormeck is linear and only the 3rd linear Cruiserweight champion . You can't compare him to any regular title holder no matter what the belt .
GazOC
06-19-2007, 01:57 PM
While the WBO is one of the 'big 4', albiet the junior member, it still relies on the quality of the individual belt holders to give its titles credibility on a 'case by case' basis in a way that the WBA, WBC and IBF don't have to.
victorhugo4222
06-19-2007, 03:30 PM
I have noticed no one has said the winner of Skelton or Sprott!!! hahahaha!!!
LeedsLad
06-19-2007, 03:37 PM
Nobody think Gavin Rees can beat M'Baye? I dont really think he will, but i wouldnt be too surprised if he did. Outside of that i would say David Haye will be the next Brit champ
victorhugo4222
06-19-2007, 03:39 PM
Nobody think Gavin Rees can beat M'Baye? I dont really think he will, but i wouldnt be too surprised if he did. Outside of that i would say David Haye will be the next Brit champ
I hadnt even thought about gavin rees you never know i dont think we will ever know how far gavin rees could have went he had loads of potential but never seemed to realise it but u never know he could spring a suprise.
Arthur will be next after that but Haye will be the first to have a craic at the proper(real) title . Cook and Arthur will probably win and then be matched softly by Warren , which is a real shame as I like both fighters and am quite a big fan of Arthur .
ahhh..but arthur is only fighting for an interim belt due to guzman's postponed move up to lightweight. but if this means we get to see arthur-guzman at some point then all the better!
BigEars
06-19-2007, 04:24 PM
ahhh..but arthur is only fighting for an interim belt due to guzman's postponed move up to lightweight. but if this means we get to see arthur-guzman at some point then all the better!
It's not guarenteed if he's fighting for the interim or full belt but I assume if it is interim Guzman won't be holding on to his title(otherwise Frank wouldn't have got Arthur this fight) and will probably be moving to Lightweight .
I still don't know why Frank didn't match him with Robbie Peden in an IBF eliminator when he could have , that was just over-protective .
dwilson
06-19-2007, 05:02 PM
Rees
BigEars
06-19-2007, 05:45 PM
Rees
So you think that cook will lose and are also saying that Arthur will lose or that Arthur's fight will happen after M'Baye v Rees(which it may) .
No chance for me . Cook wins , Arthur wins and M'Baye stops Rees .
Olu G. Rotimi
06-20-2007, 05:41 AM
I was moderately impressed with Ajose the other night but do not think at this stage he is capable of having success against Witter or Hatton. Munyai was nailed far too much too.
Ajose only gave himself a 50% pass mark for the fight on Friday but you cannot deny he won every round and outclassed a well conditioned and properly prepared Gary Reid. When he gets in there with Hatton or more likely Witter you will see what I mean. I am glad you were impressed because believe me the surface has not been scratched yet with this talent. Perhaps you could see why the likes of Lynes, Bami, Daws and co are not willing to step in with Ajose.
achillesthegreat
06-20-2007, 07:27 AM
Haye closely followed by Carl Froch.
Because you can see Froch beating Calzaghe of Kessler???
achillesthegreat
06-20-2007, 07:28 AM
Oh come on Achilles, even you know the WBO is classed as a legit title now. In fact, HBO class it as one of their 'Big 4'
So you have to accept it mate, the WBO champion is more than a belt holder. Anyone who says the WBO title isnt a biggie nowadays is sooking on sour grapes, & living in the past.
The WBC, WBA and IBF are also just titles thus if you own them you are simply a titlist.
Haye would be a real champ because Mormeck is the man.
NOrth
06-20-2007, 09:37 AM
Should mayweather vacate at light middle martinez will fight the winner of Baldomir Forrest. Jamie Moore could fight the winner of that one. All ifs, buts and maybes, but would anyone completley write him off against Martinez (on his last couple of performances), Baldmoir or Forrest? problem is making the fight (of course).
To answer the question, within the next 12months I reckon David Haye & Alex Arthur are the best shouts.
GazOC
06-20-2007, 11:27 AM
Baldomir Forrest
Sounds like a location on Lord of the Rings.;)
NOrth
06-20-2007, 11:51 AM
Sky showing it delayed I think. Should be good, but I think even this version of Forrest will have too much for the sometimes plodding Baldomir. And so Martinez fights Forrest. An interesting fight between two guys past their peak. Martinez was never as good as Forrest, yet Forrest has slipped more (for me), so it has the makings of an interesting fight.
BigEars
06-20-2007, 02:53 PM
Because you can see Froch beating Calzaghe of Kessler???
Berrio(who will probably lose to Bute) is there aswell . I wouldn't fancy Froch to beat any of the champions(except if Berrio is still around) but he's got a punchers chance against anyone and has a solid chin .
I was moderately impressed with Ajose the other night but do not think at this stage he is capable of having success against Witter or Hatton. Munyai was nailed far too much too.
putting munyai in with ramogoadi just wasn't a good move. even though he got the W, this isn't going to help progress him up the bantamweight rankings - which is where a title is most achievable for him.
China_hand_Joe
06-20-2007, 03:20 PM
Witter is beatable, it would be a horrific fight to watch though!
Witter is beatable, it would be a horrific fight to watch though!
most witter fights are :bart
brown bomber
06-20-2007, 03:40 PM
Ajose only gave himself a 50% pass mark for the fight on Friday but you cannot deny he won every round and outclassed a well conditioned and properly prepared Gary Reid. When he gets in there with Hatton or more likely Witter you will see what I mean. I am glad you were impressed because believe me the surface has not been scratched yet with this talent. Perhaps you could see why the likes of Lynes, Bami, Daws and co are not willing to step in with Ajose. Olu he was good he reminded me a lot of a southpaw ****** Juuko... thats high praise from me because I was a big Juuko fan many moons ago.
Hitman_Hatton
06-20-2007, 05:34 PM
Because you can see Froch beating Calzaghe of Kessler???
Yea i reckon he has a shot at both although i must say i haven't seen an awful lot of Kessler due to him having no exposure here in the uk. Froch would also absolutely rape Berrio.
Froch doesnt ''rape'' anyone at top level...
Hitman_Hatton
06-20-2007, 05:56 PM
We will have to wait untill he gets his shot which should be sooner rather than later and apart from sometimes holding his hands low which is incredibly frustrating he has barely put a foot wrong im expecting big things from Carl in 2008. I'd take him to blow Berrio away personally.
BigEars
06-20-2007, 06:29 PM
Froch doesnt ''rape'' anyone at top level...
But is Berrio really top level ? , the answer is no he's just a decent chinny banger .
Olu G. Rotimi
06-21-2007, 03:28 PM
Olu he was good he reminded me a lot of a southpaw ****** Juuko... thats high praise from me because I was a big Juuko fan many moons ago.
I remember Juuko in with Floyd Mayweather Junior at the top of PBF's game. As you know PBF is exceptional in terms of skills, timing and ring generalship and my friend Ajose is not dissimilar though he needs to show it at the highest levels which hopefully we will get the opportunity sooner rather than later.
I am really excited by Hatton versus Castillo. I hope Ricky wins but I have a nagging feeling that Castillo is preparing something special. This could a step up from Micky Ward and Gatti. I can't wait
dwilson
04-24-2008, 11:30 AM
Good read this thread.
Fat Joe
04-24-2008, 11:35 AM
Maccarinelli or Harrison if he has anything left.
Hatton will probably pick up a proper belt soon enough, Malignaggi and Torres are garbage so he'd be my pick
Good read this thread.
i didn't realise it was an old one. i kept reading "david haye" and was like...erm he already is a world champion.
my pick was nicky cook which fell flat on its face (helped by some hefty bodyshots as i recall!)
toffeejack
04-24-2008, 02:12 PM
Probably Haye with the state of the Heavyweight division.
I really hope it's not Froch and that Inkin batters him before he gets the chance at a title.
somerset
04-24-2008, 03:06 PM
Order of attempts will probably be Arthur, Lockett, Hatton, Khan, Froch (confirmation), Macca, Haye.
Out of those I'm actually most confident about Haye. Many of the rest are 50/50!
mike464
04-24-2008, 03:13 PM
There's an interesting market on Betfair:
Will Amir Khan be a world champion by the end of 2008?
Yes: 1.73 No 1.81
It must be noted that their definition of world champion includes WBO and IBO titles but 'no' still seems like a pretty good bet. I can't see Khan fighting Pac, Diaz, Casamayor or Campbell, and even if he does he'd probably get beaten up so it's just a matter of whether the WBO gets vacated or if he fights for the IBO. I don't even know who has the IBO title.
Cobbler
04-24-2008, 03:39 PM
IBO title is vacant, Willie Limond was making noises about it last I heard.
dan-b
04-24-2008, 04:44 PM
I bet they only include IBO because Hatton has one.
BIG WORM
04-24-2008, 06:19 PM
khan
dan-b
04-24-2008, 06:45 PM
herbie hide
Only if they make boxing a non contact sport.
columbo man
04-24-2008, 06:59 PM
the cobra of course carl froch!!!!!
PATRICKBOXING
04-25-2008, 04:57 PM
david haye then carl froch maybe amir khan he seems more hungrier and don't think he wants to be a W.B.U. champion he will ether make frank get him the title shot (very hard to tell him anything) or like ricky hatton he will have a high profile split with him like hatton but that was after he had begged him to get the fight with tyszu
TIGEREDGE
04-25-2008, 08:49 PM
I can't see fran warren putting khan in with a banger like katsidis or a pressure fighter like Juan Diaz in the near future. He could go for one of the otehr diaz's
D-MAC
04-25-2008, 09:23 PM
Got to go with my very own Paul McCloskey; just shut out former world champion Cesar Bazan; washed up former world champion I have to admit, but McCloskey looked excelent in any case. Although, not too sure if he counts, since he fights a lot of his bouts in the Republic of Ireland. I know Duddy doesn't figure in the British rankings, but McCloskey is the Dogs balls; I'll throw him into the mix.
wayne3280
04-26-2008, 06:26 PM
Lockett with a sensational upset!!!
D-MAC
04-26-2008, 06:29 PM
Lockett with a sensational upset!!!
That would be an upset; Buster Douglas type shit.
Lockett has a better chance than Arthur...
dan-b
04-27-2008, 05:19 AM
Lockett has a better chance than Arthur...
Yup. One has no chance & the other has next to no chance.
Yup. One has no chance & the other has next to no chance.
:yep
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