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aillmatic
01-16-2008, 09:54 PM
I read online that HBO is interested in matching up Kirkland and Julio for an HBO BAD card. Who do you think would win?

Antwuan Maxx
01-16-2008, 10:11 PM
I rean online that HBO is interested in matching up Kirkland and Julio for an HBO BAD card. Who do you think would win?


Where did you read this? This sounds like a definite candidate for FOTY.

Auracle21
01-16-2008, 10:12 PM
julio would take this. although it would be a great fight

aillmatic
01-16-2008, 10:15 PM
Where did you read this? This sounds like a definite candidate for FOTY.

Max Boxing. If you go the article titled "Same old Song and Dance", all the way at the bottom on "Final Flurries" theres a small paragraph about it. Nothing singed or official.

Toopretty
01-16-2008, 10:36 PM
Julio will lose. I cant see him handling Kirkland's pressure. Julio can punch but he is not a smart fighter.

aillmatic
01-16-2008, 10:42 PM
Julio will lose. I cant see him handling Kirkland's pressure. Julio can punch but he is not a smart fighter.

I think Joel has a great chance to win. He will easily be the best fighter Kirkland has fought. Kirkland's defence still needs some work. He applies alot of pressure but leave himself too open at times. Remember, Kirkland got dropped in his last fight by Allen Conyers. If Joel catches him flush, it could be goodnight for Kirkland. It's a 50/50 fight for me.

Sonny Carson
01-16-2008, 10:42 PM
Julio will lose. I cant see him handling Kirkland's pressure. Julio can punch but he is not a smart fighter.
I agree and this would be mos def be a fight of the year candidate.

Toopretty
01-16-2008, 10:46 PM
I think Joel has a great chance to win. He will easily be the best fighter Kirkland has fought. Kirkland's defence still needs some work. He applies alot of pressure but leave himself too open at times. Remember, Kirkland got dropped in his last fight by Allen Conyers. If Joel catches him flush, it could be goodnight for Kirkland. It's a 50/50 fight for me. Joel also fights at a methodical pace. If Kirklands big country ass gets that adrenaline going he is not getting knocked out by Joel. He can punch himself and he was not even hurt when he was knocked down and he fights harder when hurt. That will have an effect on Joel who is still greenish to me. He hits Kirkland with a good shot or combo and he comes at him more aggresive. I put that being a factor over Joel's ok power shots.

aillmatic
01-16-2008, 11:02 PM
Joel also fights at a methodical pace. If Kirklands big country ass gets that adrenaline going he is not getting knocked out by Joel. He can punch himself and he was not even hurt when he was knocked down and he fights harder when hurt. That will have an effect on Joel who is still greenish to me. He hits Kirkland with a good shot or combo and he comes at him more aggresive. I put that being a factor over Joel's ok power shots.
[Only registered and activated users can see links] ... Kirkland vs Conyers fight

Kirkland was definately stunned when he went down. His legs weren't completely adter the knockdown. His legs buckled from the right hook after he gets up... but he recovered quickly... I think the knockdown helped him out too because it gave him another 10 seconds to get his legs back while Conyers was down.... but the pressue he applies is crazy... he didn't let up one second of that fight.

Toopretty
01-16-2008, 11:32 PM
[Only registered and activated users can see links] ... Kirkland vs Conyers fight

Kirkland was definately stunned when he went down. His legs weren't completely adter the knockdown. His legs buckled from the right hook after he gets up... but he recovered quickly... I think the knockdown helped him out too because it gave him another 10 seconds to get his legs back while Conyers was down.... but the pressue he applies is crazy... he didn't let up one second of that fight.
He was stunned but I told my girl that kirkland was going to knock the other dude out even at the moment when he got put on his ass. I knew he would get up and fight harder and recover quick. He is a adrenaline type fighter and it is hard to keep a guy like that down. She laughed at me and thought he was done...Well the results speak.

Nico
01-16-2008, 11:38 PM
Julio will lose. I cant see him handling Kirkland's pressure. Julio can punch but he is not a smart fighter.


Julio might not be a smart fighter, but he is Willie fucking Pep compared to Kirkland. Don't get me wrong. I like both guys, and they make for some damn entertaining fights. But I can't name a prospect at the moment who gets hit as much as Kirkland. Did you see how atrocious his defense was in the Said fight?

AG11
01-16-2008, 11:51 PM
This is a GREAT fight that I really hope comes together. Def has a classic BAD feeling to it.

Toopretty
01-16-2008, 11:59 PM
Julio might not be a smart fighter, but he is Willie fucking Pep compared to Kirkland. Don't get me wrong. I like both guys, and they make for some damn entertaining fights. But I can't name a prospect at the moment who gets hit as much as Kirkland. Did you see how atrocious his defense was in the Said fight?

Well, he makes up for it a little with his ferioucity. That can play a big role on a fighter that is mentally weak and cant handle pressure situations. Sure you can catch kirkland with some good shots. But are you going to be able to do it enough to stop him? Are you going to put him out with one shot. Is he going to keep coming at you throwing hurtfull punches? Hell yes he is. Julio is not no Willie Pep to nobody. He is good at setting up his shots in a CONTROLLED pace. He is kind of slow as well. He would get unravelled if Kirkland goes after him. I tell you that much. His defense is not all that great either.

Toopretty
01-17-2008, 12:00 AM
This is a GREAT fight that I really hope comes together. Def has a classic BAD feeling to it.

Another relentless, oh my bad yo.:lol:

Lampley
01-17-2008, 12:20 AM
Jesus, this fight would be explosive. I like Kirkland better overall, but Julio projects to do well against that style.

I really hope this bout happens, but I think it's a little early for it and it probably won't.

maracho
01-17-2008, 02:29 AM
Now were talking. I pick Kirkland who I think has the potential to whip anyone 154 and under.

freddy-wak
01-17-2008, 02:35 AM
At What Weight

maracho
01-17-2008, 03:30 AM
At What Weight

Its gotta be 154

kg0208
01-17-2008, 03:37 AM
Haven't seen Julio since his fight directly after Quintana. Seemed to have lost all his confidence at the time. How does he look now? Kirkland has great offense but needs to work on his defense.

freddy-wak
01-17-2008, 05:39 PM
i take kirkland....