** My legs...dammit...Boxers legs are so important"

[Orishaman]

The power comes from your feet up thru you legs and eventually ends on your fist...but my legs I beleive they ran out of rounds..because every day halfway thru the workout, my legs are shot...I been trying to work dirrent excereesice to keep the tem fresh other than running..but damm..it is the reality of 50 years...

[amy]

Can you take a spinning class? It's great for leg strength and easy on the joints, not to mention a good workout.

[MrSmall]

Heavy squats, builds strength!

[stuey]

Heavy squats, builds strength!


he's 50 years old bruv!!

[Relentless]

i think he needs endurance.

[amy]

Heavy squats, builds strength!

:lol: You and your squats! :patsch

[boxingtactics07]

Weights aren't the best thing right now. If you can't run at all, walking is better than nothing. You've been in boxing for a long time (from what I've read). You should take the weekend off and rest your legs. Then on Monday, try out one of these if you like:

Hindu Squats
Roller Blading
Skate Boarding
General Biking
Stationary Biking
Outdoors Rowing
Outdoors Hiking

[Relentless]

Weights aren't the best thing right now. If you can't run at all, walking is better than nothing. You've been in boxing for a long time (from what I've read). You should take the weekend off and rest your legs. Then on Monday, try out one of these if you like:

Hindu Squats
Roller Blading
Skate Boarding
General Biking
Stationary Biking
Outdoors Rowing
Outdoors Hiking

:lol: :rofl :rofl :patsch

[boxingtactics07]

I knew somebody was gonna laugh at those, but I put them in there anyway. Seriously, I would think he's awesome if he could skateboard at 50. The rollerblading he could do with his girlfriend/wife at a rink once in a while.

[Orishaman]

You guys are missing the point, the point is that I am working with OLD legs, each figher has so many rounds on his legs, and I think that I just run out of rounds..,

So it is not a matter of endurance, or strength ..it is a matter of conserving what little springness I can from my legs for as long as I can when I am in the ring..

This limits anything that will required the legs to hold the weight of the body…jump rope, running, squats etc…I nee to change my routing for cardio to more % biking and less % on the other machines….

[Orishaman]

Weights aren't the best thing right now. If you can't run at all, walking is better than nothing. You've been in boxing for a long time (from what I've read). You should take the weekend off and rest your legs. Then on Monday, try out one of these if you like:

Hindu Squats
Roller Blading
Skate Boarding
General Biking
Stationary Biking
Outdoors Rowing
Outdoors Hiking

You guys are missing the point, the point is that I am working with OLD legs, each figher has so many rounds on his legs, and I think that I just run out of rounds..,

So it is not a matter of endurance, or strength ..it is a matter of conserving what little springness I can from my legs for as long as I can when I am in the ring..

This limits anything that will required the legs to hold the weight of the body…jump rope, running, squats etc…I nee to change my routing for cardio to more % biking and less % on the other machines….

[avk47]

Orishaman, maybe you should ease down and not train every day. Maybe do it 3-4 days a week or something for a while, and then if you feel strong again, step it up again.

[Johnboy2007]

Maybe you should just realise your 50 years of age now and your body will suffer now. Dont you coach maybe that should be your hobby from now on , or golf or summit , this sounds really harsh but its a fact of life , your not old by any means , just maybe need to do different things now to keep fit that arnt so stressfull on the joints. My dad was no boxer but he used to do triathlons and marathons and all sorts of activities , soccer ect . In those days he didnt worry about good running trainers or what the pounding was doing to his joints. Now he cant run a 1 mile without his ankles flaring up. But he cycles to work everyday still , scuba dives , plays golf , swims , does alot of walking and is very fit still for his age. Its a shame but mayb its just reality setting in?

[amy]

You guys are missing the point, the point is that I am working with OLD legs, each figher has so many rounds on his legs, and I think that I just run out of rounds..,

So it is not a matter of endurance, or strength ..it is a matter of conserving what little springness I can from my legs for as long as I can when I am in the ring..

This limits anything that will required the legs to hold the weight of the body…jump rope, running, squats etc…I nee to change my routing for cardio to more % biking and less % on the other machines….

that's why I suggested spinning. I go a couple times a week and there are people of all ages in there.

[younghypnotiq]

u wanna no what i do and my legs never get tired and i punch much harder now. do shadow boxing but when doing it squat much lower then usual kindof of like go parralel and jut box like regular

[Mendoza]

You guys are missing the point, the point is that I am working with OLD legs, each figher has so many rounds on his legs, and I think that I just run out of rounds..,

So it is not a matter of endurance, or strength ..it is a matter of conserving what little springness I can from my legs for as long as I can when I am in the ring..

This limits anything that will required the legs to hold the weight of the body…jump rope, running, squats etc…I nee to change my routing for cardio to more % biking and less % on the other machines….

Sorry O-Man. You're 'gonna have to switch your style. Watch Hopkins. He has less movement, and relies on counters and power punches. The days of stick and move for you have come and gone. Boxing is a combat sport with a lot of contact. Its not meant for 50 year olds the way a krate class can be.

Its easy for a younger man to say, but perhaps one day you'll be more of a trainer or teacher than a guy who spars rounds in the gym.

[MrSmall]

:D
Nothing wrong with some nice squats!
Disbelievers! BLASPHEMY!

[Orishaman]

The funny thing is thatg many of your advise, I have given to other people and to my boxers I train, but the issue is that I don;t ask my boxers to do something I can;t do....so before they all had a hard time keeping up with me...ask Kolya!!, but know it seems that I have a tough time keeping up with them.....and sometimes they tell me "Coach will do it ..you don;t have to..." I guess they see it also...

For now I will concentrate on the parabolic for 5 miunutes at brisk pace, 20 minutes daily at the stationary bike, and jog and walk for 2 to 3 miles....all on a daily base....and stay with some weight reps for arms , dorsi, shoulders and legs...

[Johnboy2007]

The funny thing is thatg many of your advise, I have given to other people and to my boxers I train, but the issue is that I don;t ask my boxers to do something I can;t do....so before they all had a hard time keeping up with me...ask Kolya!!, but know it seems that I have a tough time keeping up with them.....and sometimes they tell me "Coach will do it ..you don;t have to..." I guess they see it also...

For now I will concentrate on the parabolic for 5 miunutes at brisk pace, 20 minutes daily at the stationary bike, and jog and walk for 2 to 3 miles....all on a daily base....and stay with some weight reps for arms , dorsi, shoulders and legs...

Thats life mate , people get older , and your fitness will begin to fade. I suggest you do what you can without damaging yourself , and remember something that will never fade and the younger boxers will always need , your knowledge and experience. There are plus's to getting older. Good luck mate im no expert but i dont think theres a miracle cure , all the best:good

[Kolya]

The funny thing is thatg many of your advise, I have given to other people and to my boxers I train, but the issue is that I don;t ask my boxers to do something I can;t do....so before they all had a hard time keeping up with me...ask Kolya!!, but know it seems that I have a tough time keeping up with them.....and sometimes they tell me "Coach will do it ..you don;t have to..." I guess they see it also...

For now I will concentrate on the parabolic for 5 miunutes at brisk pace, 20 minutes daily at the stationary bike, and jog and walk for 2 to 3 miles....all on a daily base....and stay with some weight reps for arms , dorsi, shoulders and legs...

I was gonna say I know this has to be bugging you, because you're so active and are out there keeping up with your boxers. But just try to preserve those legs and see how it goes, maybe taking a break with them would help too. Go on a vaction back to PR and get some rest. :D

[spion]

I watched Larry Holmes train for his last fight against Butterbean where he fought for 10 rounds at age 52. Larry was doing the same amount of skipping as for other fights, I didn't see his morning runs, though he said he was running 4-5 miles at four times per week on non sparring days. He was also convinced that keeping the flexibility in the legs was very important as all the running and skipping tends to tighten the muscles in a straightened position. Stretching was incorporated with the warmup and then a twenty minute static stretching period following gym workouts.

[Relentless]

george foreman used to pull/push trucks!!

[JMonster]

i agree. good luck

[4eyes]

I watched Larry Holmes train for his last fight against Butterbean where he fought for 10 rounds at age 52. Larry was doing the same amount of skipping as for other fights, I didn't see his morning runs, though he said he was running 4-5 miles at four times per week on non sparring days. He was also convinced that keeping the flexibility in the legs was very important as all the running and skipping tends to tighten the muscles in a straightened position. Stretching was incorporated with the warmup and then a twenty minute static stretching period following gym workouts.

I use to go on his website he use to post on it almost every day haven't been in a while but I did remember him saying quite a few times that he did his roadwork on a treadmill he said it was easier on his knees yet harder than road running because you couldn't slow down

[Pugsley]

What the hell ORishaman? You are fifty? I always thought a 20 year old, budding fighter/trainer less talk more action type.

[spion]

I use to go on his website he use to post on it almost every day haven't been in a while but I did remember him saying quite a few times that he did his roadwork on a treadmill he said it was easier on his knees yet harder than road running because you couldn't slow down

I do remember seeing him on the treadmill at the hotel where he was training! I used to be on Larry's website a lot too. Seems like Larry hasn't been on in quite some time and a lot of the members have abandoned the site. Too bad. It was fun talking to the champ himself.

[boxing4life]

try hindu squats they worked for me

[Relentless]

try hindu squats they worked for me

you're not 50.

[Cobra33]

Yoga.I gurrantee it will work.

[Johnboy2007]

Yoga.I gurrantee it will work.

I can personally recomend tai chi , fantastic for the joints. However maksure you get a real authentic teacher who knows what they are doing same with yoga theres alot of fakes out there that have done 2 week courses and call themselves a master. I miss tai chi i should go back but its on the same night as boxing.

[El Puma]

I know your fifty, but look up dragondoor.com for strentgh training on legs. I can do 7 strict one legged squats while holding a 45lb plate thanks to Pavel.

[Orishaman]

Well I have to say that the last 3 weeks have been envigorating and rejuvenating for my leags...I laid from jumping ropes, ,and running for a long time, my routine know is a combination of biking for 15 minutes at a high rate of 14, walk for 45 minutes, runs for 1/4 miles spurts during the walks and 5 minutes of parabolic machine....my legs are solid and my punches are sharp, my legs are solid and rejuvenated...maybe what I had was tired legs from so many years to9ugh road work...so far so good!!

[amy]

Yay! That's good to hear. I'm glad you found something that worked for you.

[Orishaman]

Actually, I got my legs back and it fills great, I just wondering if the wear and tear catched up with me and I needed to change in order to save my legs..I fill solid and furrious again!!!

I sparred a few rounds today with my partner Kondo, and we had some fun!!!

[Kolya]

Actually, I got my legs back and it fills great, I just wondering if the wear and tear catched up with me and I needed to change in order to save my legs..I fill solid and furrious again!!!

I sparred a few rounds today with my partner Kondo, and we had some fun!!!

Good to hear. Those legs were plenty strong last time I saw them in action. :lol: Did I PM you, by the way, my new #?

[Orishaman]

Good to hear. Those legs were plenty strong last time I saw them in action. :lol: Did I PM you, by the way, my new #?

I will call you tomorow...I am tire and I am out!!!

BTW, I been helping Jimmy Johnson with one of his pupils.....