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cross_trainer
07-06-2007, 07:44 PM
Who retired before 1993.

WiDDoW_MaKeR
07-06-2007, 08:44 PM
MMA has evolved so much, I believe that anyone before 1993 would be too one dimensional to beat Fedor. With the amazing, all around fighters we have today, he is still walking through them.

ufoalf
07-06-2007, 09:04 PM
alexander karelin maybe
prime mike tyson?

Karelin might be able to beat him with brute strength, but i highly doubt it. Tyson might get a shot in and go from there.

cross_trainer
07-06-2007, 11:18 PM
The guys with the best chance, in chronological order:



William Miller (Australian bareknuckle champion and Greco-Roman top contender)

James J. Jeffries (World heavyweight champion, enough Greco skills to wrestle Roeber).

Frank Gotch/George Hackenschmidt/Joe Stecher (World wrestling champions)

Masahiko Kimura (Greatest Judoka of all time)

Jon Bluming (Top Kyokushinka and Judoka simultaneously)

cross_trainer
07-06-2007, 11:19 PM
I would not necessarily favor any of those men over Fedor, but they're the best I can think of. Strange, though...there has to be SOMEBODY, since humans have been fighting each other hand to hand for hundreds of years.

WiDDoW_MaKeR
07-06-2007, 11:55 PM
How about BJ Penn vs Mitsuyo Maeda?

cross_trainer
07-06-2007, 11:58 PM
No, not really, because only recently has combat really become mixed. MMA is the ultimate in one on one combat. We have been fighting for a long time, but in seperate disciplines. Nowadays the fighters are much more complete, the guys of yesterday can't compete.

Sensible response. But it is unlikely that we only found that answer in 1993-2007. Fighters have been mixing styles for quite some time...

oblate
07-07-2007, 12:45 AM
Karelin had nothing but his wrestling, no sub game, no sub defense, no standup. Tyson had the standup, but he would get taken down immediately. He always has a shot of landing that big shot, but Fedor likely wouldn't keep it standing long enough.
i agree. Fedor makes wrestlers who atleast have some sub defense training tap no problem karelin would get subbed shortly after the take down unless he knocks him out on the slam. tyson no takedown defense, he would get taken down and then fedor does what he wants.

ryanty22
07-07-2007, 12:58 AM
i say if it has to be before 1993 then it would have to be clyde from the movie every which way but loose. the right turn would knock fedor silly

dwilson
07-07-2007, 01:43 AM
Hercules the son of zeus, apart from that i cant think of anyone.

Dekkers
07-07-2007, 03:32 AM
I would not necessarily favor any of those men over Fedor, but they're the best I can think of. Strange, though...there has to be SOMEBODY, since humans have been fighting each other hand to hand for hundreds of years.
I'm still waiting for somebody to jump up and say Bruce Lee, starting yet another flame war :D

Beebs
07-07-2007, 04:04 AM
People with a game shot, but still heavy underdogs

Rolls Gracie, James Jefferies, maybe Anton Geesink

Dostoevsky
07-07-2007, 04:44 AM
Its so difficult because some of these styles have evolved so much in the last 15 years and some have even been invented completley.

If it is an MMA fight i honestly don't see who could beat him. Which is crazy.............when you think about it....that he is the toughest and greatest fighter, the world has ever seen.

achillesthegreat
07-07-2007, 07:59 AM
Fuck it, I'll say Bruce Lee. People don't know some of the shit Lee did to prove what he knows worked.

Dostoevsky
07-07-2007, 08:18 AM
:lol:
Theres always one...in every forum! :rofl

Beebs
07-07-2007, 04:34 PM
Fuck it, I'll say Bruce Lee. People don't know some of the shit Lee did to prove what he knows worked.

No, we don't know it, because he never did it. But its a hypothetical question with no real answer, so believe what you will I guess.

Beebs
07-07-2007, 04:51 PM
Maybe Vasili Oschepkov, co-founder of SAMBO and taught both Judo and Karate,

and for the Record I believe Kaerlin has at least some training, as Judo/Sambo were requirements for all Soviet boys in schooling, but he may have already been fully dedicated in a wrestling school by then, so maybe not.

Dostoevsky
07-07-2007, 05:11 PM
Karelin would have been a monster......one of the strongest humans in history, a machine.
I could just dream of seeing Karelin Karelin lifting that big doofus Tim Sylvia over his head and smashing him into the mat! muhahahaha.......i would most enjoy that.