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BewareofDawg
01-18-2008, 12:33 PM
He is riding his title of P4P #1 too much. The boxing world makes fighter do so much to get their status, why shouldn't they do just as much to keep it? I'm sorry but if Floyd does fight Oscar, he needs to be dropped from the #1 spot. Then new #1 would go to Calzaghe or pac depending what happens in their next fights. :deal

I acknowledge that their is another thread about Pac becoming #1 with a win, but I NEEDED to start my own about Floyd in general. :good

Beeston Brawler
01-18-2008, 12:38 PM
I can see your point, but don't really agree. He is a brilliant fighter, one of the best ever, but if he doesn't have a mandatory challenger, he can fight who the fuck he wants, or just give up his title and fight who he wants anyway!

Titles don't mean jack shit these days.

surreal deal
01-18-2008, 12:39 PM
how about from the top of the empire state building?

your right,he cant realistically lose his linear ww title or pfp title,because he doesnt fight guys with any chance of taking them.
he can reign another 10 years.

BewareofDawg
01-18-2008, 12:48 PM
how about from the top of the empire state building?

your right,he cant realistically lose his linear ww title or pfp title,because he doesnt fight guys with any chance of taking them.
he can reign another 10 years.
Exactly. You know what I honestly see happening if Pac beats JMM. Watch for Floyd to fight Oscar and then fight Pac at a catch weight. :deal

Unchained
01-18-2008, 12:55 PM
Floyd is by far the most talented fighter in the world IMO. Even though that is the case, if he takes on ODLH again, with Cotto, Williams, Margo, and others sitting there, who are FAR MORE dangerous, he should lose the status to Pac. As long as PAC is very impressive vs. JMM. I don't agree about JC, to me he really goes the safe route when choosing opponents.

C HOP
01-18-2008, 12:58 PM
if calzaghe has a big year fighting

Hopkins
Jones
dawson
pavlik

n maywetaher fights oscar

then calzaghe should be number 1 considering if pac loses

Unchained
01-18-2008, 01:03 PM
if calzaghe has a big year fighting

Hopkins
Jones
dawson
pavlik

n maywetaher fights oscar

then calzaghe should be number 1 considering if pac loses

If JC fights even two of those guys I would be shocked. I highly doubt Pavlik or Dawson.

PowerPuncher
01-18-2008, 01:07 PM
Pac isn't in Mayweather's league. If Mayweather stayed at 130 he'd win every round against Mr Predictable and beat him down so how can Fanny Pac be no1? He can't and if Marquez isn't past it or robbed he'll win anyway. Now is Marquez P4P no1 or Chris John? :lol:

C HOP
01-18-2008, 01:08 PM
If JC fights even two of those guys I would be shocked. I highly doubt Pavlik or Dawson.

well he wants to go out with a bang , i say he wont retire! even reading his books he says he doesnt think he himelf could stay retired! he will fight hopkins in april , jones in septemeber then dawson in febuary! if he fought them then he would surpass mayweather in P4P rankings! as his recent competition would be a hell of alot better than a dela hoya mayweather 2 fight!

FlatNose
01-18-2008, 01:09 PM
Possibly even more important than losing status as #1 p4p, Floyd may risk losing respect of the paying fans who are tired of bullshit fights like the proposed PBF-DLH pattycake waltz. Of all the guys who talk big about fighting Floyd, Hatton was the one who Floyd decided offended him enough to get a fight. Now he's regressing to fighting Oscar, who showed his true colors in the track meet with Trinidad. You'd think a guy who talks all that smack would be eager to meet the challenges of Cotto or Williams instead of becoming the straight man in Oscars traveling road show.

Asterion
01-18-2008, 01:10 PM
Mayweather has been P4P #1 for 3 consecutive years.

Only Julio Cesar Chavez and Pernell Whitaker were P4P Kings for 3 consecutive years. Mayweather has tied them.

bladerunner
01-18-2008, 01:10 PM
if Pac beats JMM convincingly he should be number one.

PowerPuncher
01-18-2008, 01:16 PM
Mayweather has been P4P #1 for 3 consecutive years.

Only Julio Cesar Chavez and Pernell Whitaker were P4P Kings for 3 consecutive years. Mayweather has tied them.

Maybe PBF should have been P4P no1 after RJJ got beat in 2004. HE was certainly performing at a higher level than BoringHops was at that time. But neither fighter did anything in 2004

BewareofDawg
01-18-2008, 01:25 PM
Mayweather has been P4P #1 for 3 consecutive years.

Only Julio Cesar Chavez and Pernell Whitaker were P4P Kings for 3 consecutive years. Mayweather has tied them.
What about Roy Jones?

BewareofDawg
01-18-2008, 01:26 PM
Can someone post the Recognized P4P #1 Lineage from the 90s 'til Present Day please?

bladerunner
01-18-2008, 01:29 PM
Can someone post the Recognized P4P #1 Lineage from the 90s 'til Present Day please?
is that the Ring mag rankings?

if it is than i think it his:

Tyson
JC Chavez
Whitaker
RJJ
DLH
RJJ
S.Mosley
B.Hopkins
RJJ
B.Hopkins
F.Mayweather

jc
01-18-2008, 01:31 PM
P4p status is not a real title, you dont have to be beaten to have it taken away, if Pac or Calzaghe or someone else proves enough to be considered the best then it should be it.

The reason I think Mayweather is number 1 is not just because he has beaten some top names but H2H aswel, I beleive that if Mayweather naturaly weight 210lbs he would be Undisputed heavyweight champ, same with the strawweights...

Illmatic
01-18-2008, 02:03 PM
is that the Ring mag rankings?

if it is than i think it his:

Tyson
JC Chavez
Whitaker
RJJ
DLH
RJJ
S.Mosley
B.Hopkins
RJJ
B.Hopkins
F.Mayweather

Most people had Tito as #1 in 2000.

It went:
RJJ 97-2000
Tito 00-01
Mosley 01-02
Hopkins 02-04
Mayweather 04-07

bladerunner
01-18-2008, 02:04 PM
Most people had Tito as #1 in 2000.

It went:
RJJ 97-2000
Tito 00-01
Mosley 01-02
Hopkins 02-04
Mayweather 04-07
the Ring never had Tito at number one.

Illmatic
01-18-2008, 02:16 PM
the Ring never had Tito at number one.

can you find the history of the #1 p4p in the ring mag? i cant find it online

Amsterdam
01-18-2008, 02:21 PM
Most people had Tito as #1 in 2000.

It went:
RJJ 97-2000
Tito 00-01
Mosley 01-02
Hopkins 02-04
Mayweather 04-07

:lol:

That's a show of pure ignorance.

eliqueiros
01-18-2008, 02:23 PM
For all of his great skills, Floyd is probably the most reluctant champion of all time. I hope he does retire because he is turning the boxing world into a parlor full of gossiping ladies. Maybe it is good strategy to sell tickets, but damn, he's had his eye on dlh for so long and doesn't seem to want to fight anyone else, ever. After every fight he brings up DLH in interview since Baldomir. Bring up Cotto and he shakes his head. He said after Ricky he was not interested in chasing the welterweights around and brought up guess who!

bladerunner
01-18-2008, 03:19 PM
can you find the history of the #1 p4p in the ring mag? i cant find it online
no im basing that on the Ring mags i have.

Illmatic
01-18-2008, 03:19 PM
:lol:

That's a show of pure ignorance.

he was, before he fought Hopkins:

Whitaker
DLH
Reid
Vargas
Joppy

over 3 weight classes. While Roy was fighting the Halls and Harmons of the world.

Asterion
01-18-2008, 03:20 PM
Can someone post the Recognized P4P #1 Lineage from the 90s 'til Present Day please?

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Since 1989:

Tyson
Chavez
Chavez
Chavez
Whitaker
Whitaker
Whitaker
Jones
De la Hoya
Jones
Jones
Mosley
Hopkins
Jones
Hopkins
Mayweather
Mayweather
Mayweather

Something like that. Click in the links for confirmation.

Illmatic
01-18-2008, 03:25 PM
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Since 1989:

Tyson
Chavez
Chavez
Chavez
Whitaker
Whitaker
Whitaker
Jones
De la Hoya
Jones
Jones
Mosley
Hopkins
Jones
Hopkins
Mayweather
Mayweather
Mayweather

Something like that. Click in the links for confirmation.

tthanks mang

surreal deal
01-18-2008, 03:27 PM
Exactly. You know what I honestly see happening if Pac beats JMM. Watch for Floyd to fight Oscar and then fight Pac at a catch weight. :deal
hi dawg,didnt notice you with the new avatar.
if floyd could make millions fighting ronald mcdonald and then colonel sanders,hes entitled to do it,and he probably would;
but i wish he'd shut the fuk up about being the best.fight all the business,exhibition,sparring sessions you like and make tons of money,but dont try and tell me youre the best ever without having to prove it because its a 'bad business decision'.