Anyone else will leave ESB if Joe loses to Pops?

[Decebal]

...sure, I would make sure I honour my bet with Rummy first and let sues2nd pick an avatar for me for ever!

Anyone else?:think

[Punisher33]

I dont know why anyone one would bet on this fight, the fights a 60/40 in favor of Calzaghe, and everyone knows Hopkins is the last fighter you want to bet against, he seems to come through when he's the underdog.

[Decebal]

I dont know why anyone one would bet on this fight, the fights a 60/40 in favor of Calzaghe, and everyone knows Hopkins is the last fighter you want to bet against, he seems to come through when he's the underdog.

JOE DOESN'T DO LOSING.:deal

Now, I AM an ESB addict, but if Joe loses this to Bhops, I. AM. OUT.

[Punisher33]

JOE DOESN'T DO LOSING.:deal

Now, I AM an ESB addict, but if Joe loses this to Bhops, I. AM. OUT. I dont know, anything can happen in this fight I think. Do you think this will be Calzaghes hardest fight to date? I think it will be, Hopkins will show Calzaghe somethings he never saw before IMO.

[Decebal]

what are you, 12?

avatar bets are funny, but betting on leaving a site is just fucking stupid

No, I am not 12. If I were 12, I would probably not make such a bet. I am serious!

[Decebal]

I dont know, anything can happen in this fight I think. Do you think was will be Calzaghes hardest fight to date? I think it will be, Hopkins will show Calzaghe somethings he never saw before IMO.

No...I think Joe's hardest recent fight was probably Bika - he was underprepared and couldn't get his head in gear during the fight. He couldn't wake up from the nightmare as he saw Bika impose his style on him. He heard his father shouting at him not to fight stupid, and yet, he couldn't fight but the way he was fighting...

I think Bhops will be easy for a perfectly prepared and focussed Joe C.

[Decebal]

Anyone else? Or is it just CHJ and myself?

[compukiller]

Hopkins is gonna kick Joe's ass, I guarantee.

[Decebal]

I am just watching Bhops v. Winky...and man! Bhops is awful. Moves well for someone his age, but that is not the point. Dreadful display...

[Decebal]

Hopkins is gonna kick Joe's ass, I guarantee.

Are you as sure as I am that it ain't gonna happen?:hey

:deal

[sues2nd]

...sure, I would make sure I honour my bet with Rummy first and let sues2nd pick an avatar for me for ever!

Anyone else?:think

:D

Cant wait bro....cant wait!!!

(and I hate ban bets....I like most of you guys...dont make any of those...LOL)

[compukiller]

Are you as sure as I am that it ain't gonna happen?:hey

:deal

Yes, but I am not betting time off. That is suicidal.

Hopkins UD 12 Calzaghe

[sues2nd]

I am just watching Bhops v. Winky...and man! Bhops is awful. Moves well for someone his age, but that is not the point. Dreadful display...

Name one fighter that looked good vs Winky?

[Fighting Weight]

This fight ain't going to happen, Joe will get 'injured' again and fight Clinton Woods or some other domestic no-mark.

If it does happen I can't wait to see the sack-swingers leave the site in droves :yep

[compukiller]

:D

Cant wait bro....cant wait!!!

(and I hate ban bets....I like most of you guys...dont make any of those...LOL)

You better be betting on Hopkins. :deal

[Decebal]

:D

Cant wait bro....cant wait!!!

(and I hate ban bets....I like most of you guys...dont make any of those...LOL)

Gee....thanks! :roll:

:D

It's like this: If I am so blind about this, I would not have learnt anything during my year here on ESB...so...screw it!:deal

[Decebal]

Name one fighter that looked good vs Winky?

No...even when Winky doesn't do anything, Bhops is awful. He has some good bursts and you can easily spot that he is very talented and used to be amazing...but now...no...he is finished...truly cooked.

[sues2nd]

You better be betting on Hopkins. :deal

Have we ever met before????

Do I EVER not bet on the old man???

Hopkins is a horrible matchup for Calzaghe. I made a post awhile back explaining exactly why...dont feel like rehashing that (plus, me and the wife are leaving to go see Cloverfield in a min....BETTER BE GOOD!!! :twisted: ), maybe later.

Hops UD....wide enough to not be called a robbery, but not a blowout. But lets just say, there will be MANY Calzaghe fans calling Hopkins a dirty fighter and a cheat and such after this.

[Decebal]

Hops UD....wide enough to not be called a robbery, but not a blowout. But lets just say, there will be MANY Calzaghe fans calling Hopkins a dirty fighter and a cheat and such after this.

No excuses from me, because I know Joe can fight ugly and dirty too. Won't call "robbery" either, I have decided. I will just go by the judges' decision. After all, Joe will be considerably younger.

[sues2nd]

Gee....thanks! :roll:

:D

It's like this: If I am so blind about this, I would not have learnt anything during my year here on ESB...so...screw it!:deal

Dec, your a great guy man....even when I dont agree with ya, I respect your opinion (wish I could say that about everyone on here :lol: ). This place wouldnt be the same without ya.

Ya cant go the ban bet route...especially with this one...cause Joe is gonna lose bro.

[Decebal]

Dec, your a great guy man....even when I dont agree with ya, I respect your opinion (wish I could say that about everyone on here :lol: ). This place wouldnt be the same without ya.

Ya cant go the ban bet route...especially with this one...cause Joe is gonna lose bro.

I hear you and I respect you as an analyst and as a poster, but it's time for me to make a move...and I am not picking Joppy to beat Bute here, am I; I am picking the odds-on favourite. It would be a huge upset if Bhops won! Nor would I want you to go ban-bet against me on this. Because we're both gonna be around after this. Promise!:D

:good

[Decebal]

I am looking at Winky being hit like a sack of potatoes...poor Winky...totally the wrong weight for him. No way is Bhops going to get away with trying to do this to Joe!

[Symphenyceo]

whoever bets on this fight is insane

[Decebal]

whoever bets on this fight is insane

I will put some money on Joe to win, yes.

[Bomber]

Foreign fighter, Las Vagas judges...........no thanks.

[Carlos Primera]

Anyone else? Or is it just CHJ and myself?
china_hand has gone as far as saying that he would leave if hopkins ever signed the contract.:lol:

[dan-b]

They won't leave but just change their usernames. They'll want to hear what people have to say in quiet anonymity.

[MancMexican]

I can see Joe taking this one but I wouldnt be surprised if Saint Bernard pulls off a miracle either.

[Haye]

Yes, but I am not betting time off. That is suicidal.

Hopkins UD 12 Calzaghe

Then clearly you are not as sure as Decebal is....

[Morrissey]

I really really like Hopkins to win here, though the odds are stacked against him.

It would be one of the greatest, dramatic upsets of all time, if ever Hopkins wins here.

[Sweet Pea]

Hopkins is gonna kick Joe's ass, I guarantee.Would you like to bet? If you guarantee it, you should have no worries. Hopkins didn't even beat Wright's ass. He'll get outdone by Joe.

[Beatboxer]

Why leave?

If Hopkins fans are so confident why would they want JC fans to leave?

Surely they want to dishout some pain in the way of 'i told you so' posts and threads?

I know thats what i want to do when JC whoops the limp ones ass in his own backyard

However, it wouldn't surprise me to see the Hopkins sack swingers flee the site en mass much as the Kesslerites did. While they can brush off the RJJ loss as being when Hopkins was 'green' and the Taylor losses as 'robberies' the sheer scale and humiliation of this one will leave a decisive mark on the old bastards record...unless of course they say he was 'past it'

[sean]

one thing i do know

after this fight if it is close there are going to be 200 threads complaining ,
and if it is wide we will get 100`s of threads from posters i have never heard of before crowing from a clazaghe or hopkins standpoint depending on who wins.

[McGrain]

JOE DOESN'T DO LOSING.:deal

Now, I AM an ESB addict, but if Joe loses this to Bhops, I. AM. OUT.

Fair enough and I understand your point of view and your passion. You don't like this fight.

What if you throws his back out in round one though? What if he suffers a serious laceration due to a clash of heads and the referee calls it a punch?

Shit happens in this game.

[Decebal]

Joe will not get hurt because he will expect Bhops to come in headbutting etc. If he is injured and the ref doesn't call it off, Joe will fight to the bitter end and win. It's just the way the man is.

If Joe loses, I will have to reconsider my perception of reality!:D

If Joe loses, I will stop posting, including under any aliases I may or may not have. :deal

BUT, Joe will NOT lose. He will be so dominant that the ref and judges will not be able to rob him of victory without causing a riot and pretty much destroying the game.

Reason why I started this thread, really, is more as a protest against this fight, in the first place and secondly, to show Joe's detractors who predict that he will be blown out of the water by a 43-year old Hopkins that I am not standing for this bullshit.

[dan-b]

one thing i do know

after this fight if it is close there are going to be 200 threads complaining ,
and if it is wide we will get 100`s of threads from posters i have never heard of before crowing from a clazaghe or hopkins standpoint depending on who wins.

Glory hunters. Is there any lower life form?:lol:

[Decebal]

Glory hunters. Is there any lower life form?:lol:

Only about 50% will be glory hunters. The rest will be aliases making the kind of fuss and giving the kind of shit to the losing team that they wouldn't dear on their main account.

[dan-b]

Only about 50% will be glory hunters. The rest will be aliases making the kind of fuss and giving the kind of shit to the losing team that they wouldn't dear on their main account.

I think the mods need to scrutanise the IP addresses of any newbies making excessive noise after that fight.

[Decebal]

I think the mods need to scrutanise the IP addresses of any newbies making excessive noise after that fight.

Nah, most will be pretty much ignored anyway...

[dan-b]

Nah, most will be pretty much ignored anyway...

:good :lol:

[McGrain]

Reason why I started this thread, really, is more as a protest against this fight, in the first place and secondly, to show Joe's detractors who predict that he will be blown out of the water by a 43-year old Hopkins that I am not standing for this bullshit.

Yes, I know this.

What i'm saying to you is two things. 1) If Hopkins cuts Calzaghe with a headbutt and the ref calls it a punch and stops the fight, or if Joe Calzaghe herniates a disc in round one, you have to stop doing something you love and ESB loses a good poster for no reason, as far as I can see. In sport, these things happen.

Then there are middling concerns. Calzaghe will struggle to beat Hopkins if he breaks his hand very very badly in round two. He will still be in the fight, but he could certainly lose a close (perhaps contested) decision in these cirumstances. Dec, that's a considered possibility. That could happen. You know that.

Finally, it's a live sporting event between two top athletes, one superior to the other. The unthinkable can, and has happened in these circumstances. IF Hopkins won this, I would not consider it the biggest upset in boxing history, though I would be astonished. That means fights have taken place, in my view, where a victory for the underdog was less likely but the underdog still achieved victory.

Think about it.

[dan-b]

Why leave the site to have it overun by back slapping morons Decebal? I've made no secret of the fact I'm going for a close Hopkins UD on this one but if Joe gets it I'll give him his due. I actually feel like some of the irrelavent international bullshit has died down in recent weeks which seems to be the fuel for most of the petty squabbles on this site.

No doubt we'll see a slight resurgence of that behaviour in the aftermath of the fight but the morons with nothing more insightful to say will soon get bored. I feel you can tell a real boxing fan apart quite easily as they are normally more objective with their arguments. The likes of TFFP & MasterCalzaghe (who I think are the same person) actually make me want to see Joe lose because their only contribution is one liner, back slapping remarks that are used to turn any thread into their own agenda.

These kind of people will be the ones throwing the insults but the boxing fans will remain magnanimous.

[Decebal]

Yes, I know this.

What i'm saying to you is two things. 1) If Hopkins cuts Calzaghe with a headbutt and the ref calls it a punch and stops the fight, or if Joe Calzaghe herniates a disc in round one, you have to stop doing something you love and ESB loses a good poster for no reason, as far as I can see. In sport, these things happen.

Then there are middling concerns. Calzaghe will struggle to beat Hopkins if he breaks his hand very very badly in round two. He will still be in the fight, but he could certainly lose a close (perhaps contested) decision in these cirumstances. Dec, that's a considered possibility. That could happen. You know that.

Finally, it's a live sporting event between two top athletes, one superior to the other. The unthinkable can, and has happened in these circumstances. IF Hopkins won this, I would not consider it the biggest upset in boxing history, though I would be astonished. That means fights have taken place, in my view, where a victory for the underdog was less likely but the underdog still achieved victory.

Think about it.

Yeah, you are right. Thanks for your concern. :good

But I am stubborn and love Joe. I am willing to take the very small risk that he might get injured. I wishe Joe would have taken a harder fight, but if this is the one he has set his heart on so badly, I am with him. However, I don't suppose I will gloat when the old man gets demolished. He will be much older than Joe after all and deserves a lot of respect for getting in the ring with the best. :deal

[TFFP]

I hope I'm not the first one to say...

It won't happen

[dan-b]

Yeah, you are right. Thanks for your concern. :good

But I am stubborn and love Joe. I am willing to take the very small risk that he might get injured. I wishe Joe would have taken a harder fight, but if this is the one he has set his heart on so badly, I am with him. However, I don't suppose I will gloat when the old man gets demolished. He will be much older than Joe after all and deserves a lot of respect for getting in the ring with the best. :deal

Yeah Joe just gets most of his injuries before fights.:roll:

[dan-b]

I hope I'm not the first one to say...

It won't happen

Far from it. It is, however, the only contribution you ever make so I'll forgive you.

[TFFP]

Far from it. It is, however, the only contribution you ever make so I'll forgive you.
I hope I've not upset you Daniel :D

[Decebal]

Why leave the site to have it overun by back slapping morons Decebal? I've made no secret of the fact I'm going for a close Hopkins UD on this one but if Joe gets it I'll give him his due. I actually feel like some of the irrelavent international bullshit has died down in recent weeks which seems to be the fuel for most of the petty squabbles on this site.

No doubt we'll see a slight resurgence of that behaviour in the aftermath of the fight but the morons with nothing more insightful to say will soon get bored. I feel you can tell a real boxing fan apart quite easily as they are normally more objective with their arguments. The likes of TFFP & MasterCalzaghe (who I think are the same person) actually make me want to see Joe lose because their only contribution is one liner, back slapping remarks that are used to turn any thread into their own agenda.

These kind of people will be the ones throwing the insults but the boxing fans will remain magnanimous.

I don't take the posts of nuthuggers seriously.

I want to do this because I believe in Joe and I believe in his significant advantage. You think Bhops will win, fair enough. He could, if he were younger and Joe more faded, and not as strong where it comes to the mental and strategical side. But as things are, with Joe being still in many ways at the top of his game, it just cannot, unless it's a freak occurance. Even then, Joe has the strength and determination to overcome the kind of injury most top athletes couldn't. He's just that good.

[Scar]

What's the point of leaving?, silly bet if you ask me.

[dan-b]

I hope I've not upset you Daniel :D

Nah I still love you baby because I know deep down you have good boxing knowledge. You just choose to act like a cock.:good

I don't take the posts of nuthuggers seriously.

I want to do this because I believe in Joe and I believe in his significant advantage. You think Bhops will win, fair enough. He could, if he were younger and Joe more faded, and not as strong where it comes to the mental and strategical side. But as things are, with Joe being still in many ways at the top of his game, it just cannot, unless it's a freak occurance. Even then, Joe has the strength and determination to overcome the kind of injury most top athletes couldn't. He's just that good.

I think people are getting far too emotionally attached to this fight instead of just enjoying it for what it is. A spectacle to savour between two of the finest exponents of their trade.

[Decebal]

A spectacle to savour between two of the finest exponents of their trade.

Nah, the only people who will be taking notes are guys like Bika, devoted students of the dark arts.

[Decebal]

What's the point of leaving?, silly bet if you ask me.

Yeah; I cannot help but get emotional over a fighter like Joe. This will be a very emotional fight for Joe, but he won't fight with his heart, even though Bhops would prefer it to be so.

[dan-b]

Nah, the only people who will be taking notes are guys like Bika, devoted students of the dark arts.

Whatever Decebal. Have a nice afternoon.:roll:

[Decebal]

Whatever Decebal. Have a nice afternoon.:roll:
:good

[rusticraver]

People are making out like Joe's got no ring smarts as well. He knows how to win fights and he don't have to do it against blown up fighters.

[andyZOR]

what are you, 12?

avatar bets are funny, but betting on leaving a site is just fucking stupid
What's the point of leaving?, silly bet if you ask me.

I agree. Decebal, thats one of the stupidest things iv'e ever seen you do, lol. Not trying to make this sound cheesy or whatever, but your a great poster. I understand that your sticking up for your fighter and thats great and it shows that you will support him at all costs, but thats just stupid imo that your risking to get banned from this site just over a fight. Its silly. :-(


Anyways, Go Calzaghe!

[Decebal]

I understand that your sticking up for your fighter and thats great and it shows that you will support him at all costs, but thats just stupid imo that your risking to get banned from this site just over a fight. Its silly. :-(


Anyways, Go Calzaghe!

Don't worry. Joe never let any of his fans down. He's not about to either! ;)

[MasterCalzaghe]

On my honour if Joe loses I stay in name and avatar for mockery.

That said no way Joe loses this fight bar a very very dodgy decision or headbut related cut stoppage. I think Hopkins will actually be very suprised by how much Joe brings to the table; Joe is no flat footed Tarver - he's Winky on speed and then a generous some.

[Max Molyneux]

Hopkins is gonna kick Joe's ass, I guarantee.

:shock::admin:yikes:scaredas:This will be a mismatch, Joe will batter Hopkins.

Joe would never lose to someone who lost to Taylor.:deal

[Jd!]

go on dec- i'll join ya.. the first jc fight i ever saw was when he broke his hand against ashira and still won a wide ud with just one hand..

since then i've seen all of jc's fights, and i honestly dont feel there is a single fighter within his weightclasses - mw, smw, and lhw who could beat him - not one, right now although physically maybe a little bit declining - not enough to be beaten imo, mentally he is one of the strongest in the game, he adapts so many times mid fight to get an advantage - watch him v kessler, how he went from jabber, to infighting, to defensive. kessler couldnt keep up and was unable to solve his puzzle - hopkins has matched his opponents most of his career, not taken any real challenge lately, and those he has - were still calculated so he had advantages.

if joe loses to hopkins - unless by way of clear robbery or dodgy cut, i'll leave esb

[Decebal]

go on dec- i'll join ya.. the first jc fight i ever saw was when he broke his hand against ashira and still won a wide ud with just one hand..

since then i've seen all of jc's fights, and i honestly dont feel there is a single fighter within his weightclasses - mw, smw, and lhw who could beat him - not one, right now although physically maybe a little bit declining - not enough to be beaten imo, mentally he is one of the strongest in the game, he adapts so many times mid fight to get an advantage - watch him v kessler, how he went from jabber, to infighting, to defensive. kessler couldnt keep up and was unable to solve his puzzle - hopkins has matched his opponents most of his career, not taken any real challenge lately, and those he has - were still calculated so he had advantages.

if joe loses to hopkins - unless by way of clear robbery or dodgy cut, i'll leave esb

:good

Bhops is a master tactician, very intelligent and cunning, but Joe is at the top of that game too; when you consider the skill, speed and technique advantage that Joe has, he simply cannot lose.