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Decebal
01-19-2008, 09:11 AM
It's official. This baby is ON! Praise to both fighters for stepping up to another big challenge, especially to Sakio, who could have milked his Contender fame for years to come...

So...

What do you think each will bring to the table?

What do you expect their strategy to be?

How could each win?

How do you think this fight will play out?

What is your prediction?

Rickypr18
01-19-2008, 09:22 AM
Wow... this fight is gonna be sick!!! Two guys with metal in their hands and with pretty good chins!!! I go for Andrade, he has a way better chin. It was unbelievable how he was able to take Kessler's punches without even getting stunned. But Bika is a bull so you can never count him out he has the heart of a lion. I predict Andrade by KO. Bika doesn't have a great chin but Andrade does, so if they get into a gunfight, I dont think Bika has a chance.

THN
01-19-2008, 09:38 AM
Wow... this fight is gonna be sick!!! Two guys with metal in their hands and with pretty good chins!!! I go for Andrade, he has a way better chin. It was unbelievable how he was able to take Kessler's punches without even getting stunned. But Bika is a bull so you can never count him out he has the heart of a lion. I predict Andrade by KO. Bika doesn't have a great chin but Andrade does, so if they get into a gunfight, I dont think Bika has a chance.

You saved me for a lot of typing :good

BigBone
01-19-2008, 09:48 AM
Another poor man's FOTY!

Great fight! Skills are not p4p but excitement will be surely tremendous! Great and it's gonna happen as soon as march 15 on an already great HBO card...

BigBone
01-19-2008, 09:53 AM
Oh and the prediction:

BIKA ON POINTS!

TFFP
01-19-2008, 09:57 AM
This is a tough one to call

Bika seems to have been shaken a few times, and Andrade has a great chin so it's only going one of two ways

I like Bika on points, I see his awkward style causing Andrade problems

Decebal
01-19-2008, 10:01 AM
This fight is great because neither can realistically afford to lose it without it burying their ambitions - and in both cases, these guys want a belt. They could still make money after a loss, but that's not their main priority.

Rickypr18
01-19-2008, 10:02 AM
You saved me for a lot of typing :good
Lol, no problem.

Rickypr18
01-19-2008, 10:05 AM
This is a tough one to call

Bika seems to have been shaken a few times, and Andrade has a great chin so it's only going one of two ways

I like Bika on points, I see his awkward style causing Andrade problems
This is the only other way I can see the fight go. Its either KO Andrade or UD Bika for me.

Decebal
01-19-2008, 10:08 AM
This is the only other way I can see the fight go. Its either KO Andrade or UD Bika for me.

Hmmm...since the Codrington KD, Bika's chin is questioned way too much. Before I could say Andrade KO, I would have to look at styles, I think.

TFFP
01-19-2008, 10:08 AM
This is the only other way I can see the fight go. Its either KO Andrade or UD Bika for me.
:good

Rickypr18
01-19-2008, 10:15 AM
Hmmm...since the Codrington KD, Bika's chin is questioned way too much. Before I could say Andrade KO, I would have to look at styles, I think.
Even though it may be a good chin, its definitely not as good as Andrade's.

Decebal
01-19-2008, 10:18 AM
Even though it may be a good chin, its definitely not as good as Andrade's.

Sure, but that doesn't mean it's not a very good chin or that he'd get KO'ed by Andrade.

Rickypr18
01-19-2008, 10:35 AM
Sure, but that doesn't mean it's not a very good chin or that he'd get KO'ed by Andrade. He has a GOOD chin nothing more nothing less. Codrington is a pretty good puncher and he hit him with flush shots that's why he got hurt.

Toopretty
01-19-2008, 10:48 AM
Out of all pointless fights to make an EDUCATED thread about. This will be a fight and a war of attrition. Neither fighter can box. Neither has any real game plan but to hit more then you get hit. LOL The bullshit never ends. I guess b/c they were Calzaghe and Kessler opponents they are good quality.

Decebal
01-19-2008, 11:15 AM
Out of all pointless fights to make an EDUCATED thread about. This will be a fight and a war of attrition. Neither fighter can box. Neither has any real game plan but to hit more then you get hit. LOL The bullshit never ends. I guess b/c they were Calzaghe and Kessler opponents they are good quality.

Both top 10 in a strong division. Doesn't happen every day. Bika doesn't have a gameplan? Just watch first 6 rounds of Bute fight and the Calzaghe fight! Against Kessler, I am not sure Andrade could have done differently.

pasky2000
01-19-2008, 11:27 AM
I believe Andrade will take Bika's bombs and tire him out throughout the rounds with constant pressure. Andrade should be able to stop Bika somewhere around the 10th or 11th round.

Andrade will be beaten again when he faces a good boxer-puncher with good mobility.

Decebal
01-19-2008, 11:30 AM
Andrade will be beaten again when he faces a good boxer-puncher with good mobility.

Whom could you possibly be thinking of?:huh:lol:

teke
01-19-2008, 11:49 AM
Hmmm...since the Codrington KD, Bika's chin is questioned way too much. Before I could say Andrade KO, I would have to look at styles, I think.Not only the Codrington fight, Donny almost had him out of there aswell. I dont think he has a bad chin though.

Decebal
01-19-2008, 11:50 AM
Not only the Codrington fight, Donny almost had him out of there aswell.

I don't remember that, and I saw the fight...:oops:

pudding
01-19-2008, 11:59 AM
Bika is going to hit Andrade and when he finds out he doesn't have enough power to hurt him, the fight is going to get dirty. I predict that Bika will get disqualified.

Jambon
01-19-2008, 12:24 PM
I predic a no contest. Andrade is not fast enough to dodge that head.

TomaTos
01-19-2008, 12:28 PM
Bika UD Andrade

PH|LLA
01-19-2008, 01:08 PM
Andrade is gonna pwn him

Decebal
01-21-2008, 05:22 PM
:bump

Amsterdam
01-21-2008, 05:24 PM
Andrade will have him out of there in 5-6, Bika can't really do anything to him and lacks defence himself.

Paulie
01-21-2008, 05:24 PM
Bika...SD...

brooklyn1550
01-21-2008, 05:25 PM
Both will stand and fight as neither are good off the backfoot.

Andrade will consistently land the harder shots and get the better of the exchanges. Bika doesn't have the power to hurt him either. After a steady accumulation of punishment from the stronger Andrade, Bika will be worn down and stopped in the mid rounds.

A fan's fight!

Amsterdam
01-21-2008, 05:28 PM
Both will stand and fight as neither are good off the backfoot.

Andrade will consistently land the harder shots and get the better of the exchanges. Bika doesn't have the power to hurt him either. After a steady accumulation of punishment from the stronger Andrade, Bika will be worn down and stopped in the mid rounds.

A fan's fight!

That'll put Andrade in line for a title shot, maybe against Bute. I really like Andrade, he's a fantastic person with class and has some of the biggest heart and chin we've seen in a while.

I give him a solid chance over anybody in the division, except for Mundine and Kessler. If he was in line for a shot against Bute, I think the pressure would get to Bute late and he'd pull out a late KO.

brooklyn1550
01-21-2008, 05:36 PM
That'll put Andrade in line for a title shot, maybe against Bute. I really like Andrade, he's a fantastic person with class and has some of the biggest heart and chin we've seen in a while.

I give him a solid chance over anybody in the division, except for Mundine and Kessler. If he was in line for a shot against Bute, I think the pressure would get to Bute late and he'd pull out a late KO.

Andrade's a great guy from what I've read and seen. And an absolute freak in his ability to take punishment.

I remember thinking that Andrade would have a hell of a shot against Bute when I was watching him against Bika. I'm not sure who I'd pick yet, but I wouldn't be too confident picking Bute.

At this moment, I'd take Andrade by TKO over Lacy and Miranda. Froch and Inkin would be good matchups too (but I haven't seen enough of Inkin to get a good picture of his ability).

He's extremely limited, but with his chin, strength, stamina, and power, he's a very serious threat.

Decebal
01-21-2008, 05:55 PM
(Bute will have a great sparring partner for the Andrade fight in Diaconu)

(Think that if Andrade doesn't KO Bute in the first 2-3...Bute wins)

Paulie
01-21-2008, 05:59 PM
If Bika wins, is Andrade will still fight Bute ?

Decebal
01-21-2008, 06:01 PM
If Bika wins, is Andrade will still fight Bute ?
Unlikely, I would have thought...maybe rematch with Joppy?

Decebal
01-21-2008, 06:02 PM
My first thought is that if Bika uses his athleticism and fitness to stay out of trouble in the first 3-4 rounds, he's got a decent chance to win on points.

Amsterdam
01-21-2008, 06:24 PM
My first thought is that if Bika uses his athleticism and fitness to stay out of trouble in the first 3-4 rounds, he's got a decent chance to win on points.

Highly incorrect, Andrade wears guys down in accumulation of pressure and workrate, rarely just gets an early KO.

He's dangerous late when you're tired and he's still coming like he was in round 3.

Vantage_West
01-21-2008, 06:44 PM
Wow... this fight is gonna be sick!!! Two guys with metal in their hands and with pretty good chins!!! I go for Andrade, he has a way better chin. It was unbelievable how he was able to take Kessler's punches without even getting stunned. But Bika is a bull so you can never count him out he has the heart of a lion. I predict Andrade by KO. Bika doesn't have a great chin but Andrade does, so if they get into a gunfight, I dont think Bika has a chance.i think bika has a pretty decent chin he has that survival savy few fighters have.
i believe been dropped by coddrington
andrade got knocked down by mack

its strange becuase neither have a supreme advantage over each other.

reach niether are going to use, hieght andrade comes foreward so he doesnt use it as effectivly, both throw just as many punches per round niether are technicians this is a really good fight i cant really pin it.


but i would pick bika just becuase he is more accomplished against world level people

Decebal
01-22-2008, 06:39 AM
Highly incorrect, Andrade wears guys down in accumulation of pressure and workrate, rarely just gets an early KO.

He's dangerous late when you're tired and he's still coming like he was in round 3.

Oh, right...isn't he less accurate after the first couple of rounds, and slower? (Bika is also very good at moving his head out of range pretty fast and can take a hit) :think

:good

Beeston Brawler
01-22-2008, 06:50 AM
It's amazig what getting beaten by Joe Calzaghe does for your career!

Sakio Bika is a nondescript fighter!

Fightfan of Mtl
01-22-2008, 09:52 AM
I don't agree with most of you guys, I see Bika as a rough and nasty fighter who as the will to go all the way in the ring to reach is goal. Head butts are so frequent that they almost count as much as another fist. If Andrade doesn't get rid of him by 4-5, he will feel frustration against this akward style of agression and he will try to land big time....

This will open his defence and he will end-up face down on the canvas for a savage K.O. around the 9th.

Bika gave JC and Bute all kinds of problems, so I can't see how Andrade can last the whole fight standing, unless he is much better than I first saw. He came to Montreal to fight an aging Otis Grant a couple years back and I wasn't impressed....even if he fought Kessler who may be the overated guy in the SMW.... we will see the real picture soon!!!!

Go Bute!!

maracho
01-22-2008, 10:19 AM
Wow! I am surprised Sugar Ray is allowing this one but it should be a great fight. I guese if I had to pick it would be Andrade by either a nudge or TKO.

Brickhaus
01-22-2008, 10:43 AM
Bika by surprisingly easy UD. Bika doesn't have a glass chin like Yusef Mack. Bika's not a great boxer, but he's significantly better than the grossly overrated Andrade.

RealIzm
01-22-2008, 11:22 AM
I wanted to say Bika by Ud..I just got a feeling he could put him down and out...Bika has come strong as of late

laffie
01-22-2008, 11:33 AM
I think Bika will win this one. If not, I'd like to see Bute against Andrade. It would choose Bute to win. Andrade is too predictable, Bute has a very good stamina and moves all his body (hands, head and feet) too fast for Librado.

Faetter_BR
01-22-2008, 05:07 PM
Oh, right...isn't he less accurate after the first couple of rounds, and slower? (Bika is also very good at moving his head out of range pretty fast and can take a hit) :think

:good

A little yes - but Andrade is there for 12 rounds none stop. I also picked Andrade - but it's a close one sure.

I just don't think Bika is good enough to take that kinda pressure for 12 rounds - Andrade on a late TKO.

Decebal
01-22-2008, 05:12 PM
A little yes - but Andrade is there for 12 rounds none stop. I also picked Andrade - but it's a close one sure.

I just don't think Bika is good enough to take that kinda pressure for 12 rounds - Andrade on a late TKO.

So why has Bika picked this fight? He had many more options than Andrade, after Contender? It must have been him who picked his opponent, rather than the other way around...he is nuts, sure, we can all see that, but he sure ain't stupid...he must think he can and will win...:think

Faetter_BR
01-23-2008, 02:06 AM
So why has Bika picked this fight? He had many more options than Andrade, after Contender? It must have been him who picked his opponent, rather than the other way around...he is nuts, sure, we can all see that, but he sure ain't stupid...he must think he can and will win...:think

well he proberbly does - but that doesn't mean he will - Kessler also thought he would beat Calzaghe and 100 other exaples of fighters searching out more than they could handle.

Furthermore I disagree on Bika's risk here - I don't think a loss will set him back much - he has lost several times before and still gets the big fights - Andrade-Bika will be a great fight - and even the loser of a hard fought battle often come out with better or at least unharmed options...

Decebal
01-23-2008, 04:02 AM
well he proberbly does - but that doesn't mean he will - Kessler also thought he would beat Calzaghe and 100 other exaples of fighters searching out more than they could handle.

Furthermore I disagree on Bika's risk here - I don't think a loss will set him back much - he has lost several times before and still gets the big fights - Andrade-Bika will be a great fight - and even the loser of a hard fought battle often come out with better or at least unharmed options...

I think this loss would set him back; Sakio has only lost to Joe (Champ) and Lucian (future IBF Champ)...he was robbed against Soliman. If he loses to Andrade, whom I don't see become a titleist one day, he would maintain his gatekeeper status and his still-in-the-top-10 position, but his hopes of getting a title fight will be forever dashed, I think...still, as others have said, this is last chance saloon for Sakio's title shot chances, and I am glad he's going for it.