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Mrboogie23
07-07-2007, 12:25 PM
I see alot people are talking about this fight. It seems that there are people overrating him and underrating him. Some people dont give him a chance at all. Why is that?

He's a solid fighter that won his belts from legit fighters. He is the only fighter in super middle right now that has a chance I think. Why do some people insist that he'll just get blown out of the water?

I understand that Joe is a great fighter with great skills but why doesnt anyone think Kessler has a shot?

Kessler is a big strong fighter. They have the same reach, Kessler is taller. I'm sure Joe is faster but Kessler has solid skills.

Its not entirely out of the question that Kessler does well in the fight is it?

sean
07-07-2007, 12:34 PM
i have this as a very close fight.
IMO whoever got or gets home advantage will run out the winner on points.

fight will be entertaining, fought at a very fast pace and the styles will gell well.

it was not and will not be an easy fight for either fighter and thise that predict a calzaghe landslide and those that predict a kessler easy ko in 5 etc,etc are letting there being a fan dictate there objectiveness of the fight.

both on paper and stylewise both men give the other problems to solve, which in itself should dictate it will not be a walkover whichever way it went.

i predict kessler narrow points win in denamrk and vice veras calzaghe close points win in uk.

Decebal
07-07-2007, 12:38 PM
sean, will you please point out exactly, in detail WHY/HOW each of these fighters has a chance against the other style-wise...there are still doubters out there that see it as a done-and-dusted landslide win for one or the other...Cheers, mate!:good

DanePugilist
07-07-2007, 12:46 PM
I think that Kesslers chances has increased since he is fighting abroad - the strain the Andrade fight made on him was almost unbearable for him. It was like danish media just discovered that we had a WC.

Now he can fight with little pressure.

It will be a very close match - I foresee a KD against Calzaghe in round 5 or 6, but we will see that Kessler will lose more rounds than he is used to.

Late TKO or slim UD for Kessler.

achillesthegreat
07-07-2007, 01:11 PM
This fight is 50-50 and scarily so. This is true greatness for both. They are putting it on the line. It's a loseable fight. Two skilled operators who can do it for 12 rounds!

Laydown
07-07-2007, 01:12 PM
i have this as a very close fight.
IMO whoever got or gets home advantage will run out the winner on points.

fight will be entertaining, fought at a very fast pace and the styles will gell well.

it was not and will not be an easy fight for either fighter and thise that predict a calzaghe landslide and those that predict a kessler easy ko in 5 etc,etc are letting there being a fan dictate there objectiveness of the fight.

both on paper and stylewise both men give the other problems to solve, which in itself should dictate it will not be a walkover whichever way it went.

i predict kessler narrow points win in denamrk and vice veras calzaghe close points win in uk.

In Cardiff - JC by SD

In Copenhagen - MK by UD

Decebal
07-07-2007, 01:23 PM
achillesthegreat, will you please point out exactly, in detail WHY/HOW each of these fighters has a chance against the other style-wise...there are still doubters out there that see it as a done-and-dusted landslide win for one or the other...Cheers, mate!:good

Ted Stickles
07-07-2007, 01:33 PM
I like Calzaghe in this one .He is very tenacious

achillesthegreat
07-07-2007, 02:16 PM
achillesthegreat, will you please point out exactly, in detail WHY/HOW each of these fighters has a chance against the other style-wise...there are still doubters out there that see it as a done-and-dusted landslide win for one or the other...Cheers, mate!:good
Let's break this down then...

Both are extremely god boxer-punchers, they can box or brawl. Both are in their element boxing.

The difference - Kessler is excellent in the few things he does, Calzaghe very good at the many things he does.

Kesslers straight punches, footwork, sense of range and timing are sensational.

Calzaghes footwork, combination, inside work and elusiveness is awesome.

Both show of their skill most when boxing however both can lead.

The 50-50 argument comes from who can fight their fight. Will Kessler tame Calzaghe with his jab and box him OR will Calzaghes dynamic work bamboozle Kessler.

Calzaghe-Lacy was a 50-50 fight. Lacy is a quality come forward fighter who is strong and powerful. What Calzaghe did to Lacy isn't because Lacy is shit, it's because Calzaghe is that good. The same situation arises here - whoever wins will not win because the other person is shit, they will win because they are that good.

This is Calzaghe and Kesslers chance to show us how smart they are. Doing this against someone with such skill level and the ability to do i tfor twelve rounds is a nightmare.

This fight is a bitch. Maybe one will set themself apart. Both have had fights where they barely lose a round. However don't be suprised if it is a heated nip/tuck affair where people argue who deserves the W.

Leeroy
07-07-2007, 02:18 PM
I see alot people are talking about this fight. It seems that there are people overrating him and underrating him. Some people dont give him a chance at all. Why is that?

He's a solid fighter that won his belts from legit fighters. He is the only fighter in super middle right now that has a chance I think. Why do some people insist that he'll just get blown out of the water?

I understand that Joe is a great fighter with great skills but why doesnt anyone think Kessler has a shot?

Kessler is a big strong fighter. They have the same reach, Kessler is taller. I'm sure Joe is faster but Kessler has solid skills.

Its not entirely out of the question that Kessler does well in the fight is it?

No shot. I'm posiTIVE. Joe Calzaghe will administor a beating the likes you've never seen before.

This will be a schooling in every sense of the word.

You thought Calzaghe schooled Lacy - wait until Calzaghe's upper-cuts land on Kessler's over-rated dome.

I think Calzaghe will either UD him and win every round,or win every round and KO him late.

Max Molyneux
07-07-2007, 02:23 PM
Kessler won't be able to just step In and out of range jabbing then a straight right with Calzaghe's speed. He could slip through Kessler to get on the Inside where Joe will have the advantage too, Kessler has not shown Inside fighting.

Kessler Vs Beyer was not defending those body shots either and Joe can pepper him to the body on the Inside.

Kessler can be uncomfortable when Pressured on the back foot although Andrade wasn't good enough as Kessler covered up pretty easily against an unproven prospect.

So I think he'll be pretty much outpointed by Joe.

Leeroy
07-07-2007, 02:26 PM
Kessler won't be able to just step In and out of range jabbing then a straight right with Calzaghe's speed. He could slip through Kessler to get on the Inside where Joe will have the advantage too, Kessler has not shown Inside fighting.

Kessler Vs Beyer was not defending those body shots either and Joe can pepper him to the body on the Inside.

Kessler can be uncomfortable when Pressured on the back foot although Andrade wasn't good enough as Kessler covered up pretty easily against an unproven prospect.

So I think he'll be pretty much outpointed by Joe.
That's another good point - Calzaghe can fight going backwards,and will befuddle Kessler on the inside.

Kessler is really only in his element when he's on the outside controling the pace of the fight;timing his right hand with the jab.

Calzaghe has an uncanny ability to avoid punches and show different angles - in my opinion,Joe will quite easily be able to break Kessler's initial attacks,and slip in on the inside,and administor some head-in-the-face game,and body shots(Those uppercuts will be the downfall of Kessler,He's ripe for them).

SevenSamurai
07-07-2007, 02:28 PM
Kessler has youth on his side, Calzaghe has class.

I think Calzaghe wins via decision, even in Denmark.

Mrboogie23
07-07-2007, 02:28 PM
No shot. I'm posiTIVE. Joe Calzaghe will administor a beating the likes you've never seen before.

This will be a schooling in every sense of the word.

You thought Calzaghe schooled Lacy - wait until Calzaghe's upper-cuts land on Kessler's over-rated dome.

I think Calzaghe will either UD him and win every round,or win every round and KO him late.


Interesting, I'm not so confident. Kessler has excellent footwork, a good jab and great ability to gauge distance.

Joe has great speed, great combos and good overall ability. I think its a pretty good clash of styles and I dont see either one being a huge favorite.

achillesthegreat
07-07-2007, 02:32 PM
Kessler has youth on his side, Calzaghe has class.

I think Calzaghe wins via decision, even in Denmark.
It does amazingly appear Calzaghe can still fight a young mans fight. The speed, the stamina, the sharpness are all still there.

Decebal
07-07-2007, 02:55 PM
Let's break this down then...

Both are extremely god boxer-punchers, they can box or brawl. Both are in their element boxing.

The difference - Kessler is excellent in the few things he does, Calzaghe very good at the many things he does.

Kesslers straight punches, footwork, sense of range and timing are sensational.

Calzaghes footwork, combination, inside work and elusiveness is awesome.

Both show of their skill most when boxing however both can lead.

The 50-50 argument comes from who can fight their fight. Will Kessler tame Calzaghe with his jab and box him OR will Calzaghes dynamic work bamboozle Kessler.

Calzaghe-Lacy was a 50-50 fight. Lacy is a quality come forward fighter who is strong and powerful. What Calzaghe did to Lacy isn't because Lacy is shit, it's because Calzaghe is that good. The same situation arises here - whoever wins will not win because the other person is shit, they will win because they are that good.

This is Calzaghe and Kesslers chance to show us how smart they are. Doing this against someone with such skill level and the ability to do i tfor twelve rounds is a nightmare.

This fight is a bitch. Maybe one will set themself apart. Both have had fights where they barely lose a round. However don't be suprised if it is a heated nip/tuck affair where people argue who deserves the W.

Thank you for your analysis! Am I right in thinking that you can envisage Kessler being beaten the way Lacy has?

warrior85
07-07-2007, 03:23 PM
yeah,if calzaghe seriously underestimates him,but lets face it that aint gonna happen.calzaghe wins by ko in 9

Rollo
07-07-2007, 04:58 PM
We've seen Kessler fade so often down the stretch.


Oh yes - that must be why he lost so many rounds in his career.......:-(

achillesthegreat
07-07-2007, 05:18 PM
Thank you for your analysis! Am I right in thinking that you can envisage Kessler being beaten the way Lacy has?
Oh no. Lacy was in front of Calzaghe all night and allowing him to counter punch. He lost every round, got his eyes swollen and cut, broke his jaw and got knocked down en route to hanging on for dear life.

Kesslers game has many more faces. His footwork alone will ensure he won't end up like Lacy.

Calzaghes speed and offensive versatility have to be telling.

Decebal
07-07-2007, 05:23 PM
Oh no. Lacy was in front of Calzaghe all night and allowing him to counter punch. He lost every round, got his eyes swollen and cut, broke his jaw and got knocked down en route to hanging on for dear life.

Kesslers game has many more faces. His footwork alone will ensure he won't end up like Lacy.

Calzaghes speed and offensive versatility have to be telling.

Phew!:good Because some people say that Kessler is overhypes just like Lacy was and is going to suffer the same fate, or, alternatively, that Kessler is not better than the great man Lacy himself, but despite that, he is still going to get schooled, because Lacy himself was!

PeterNielsen70
07-07-2007, 05:38 PM
Joe Calzaghe has always slipped the jab and he has already faced some of the more talented jabbers in this division with no issue, the fact that Kessler doesn't possess any real hook and doesn't feel natural working the body is going to screw him.

Copenhagen, Wales, Mars - where the fuck ever, this fight isn't going to be close

Kessler has also faced some taleted "slappers" doing the years:hi:
Both Bika and Lacy could take 1.000 slaps or so - so why shouldn't Kessler be able to do the same:hat

sebped
07-07-2007, 07:37 PM
This is going to be a great fight.
I haven't seen enough of both fighters to give a predecition.
I saw Kessler against Andrede, Beyer, Lucas, Mundine and Siaca and he sure has impressed me, so consistent. I only seen Calzaghe against Starie on the Tyson vs Francis undercard (that a mess) against Lacy (Fantastic), Bika (not great) and Manfredo says nothing.
What matches would you recommend me to watch to witness Calzaghes greatness?

achillesthegreat
07-07-2007, 07:42 PM
Phew!:good Because some people say that Kessler is overhypes just like Lacy was and is going to suffer the same fate, or, alternatively, that Kessler is not better than the great man Lacy himself, but despite that, he is still going to get schooled, because Lacy himself was!
Lacy wasn't exposed and he isn't shit. That's just what cocks say. You don't beat Pemberton, Sheika, Vanderpool, Reid etc by fluke. He just happened to get dominated. Floyd dominated Corrales and Corrales died a top P4P!

Amsterdam
07-07-2007, 07:50 PM
Kessler has little to no chance. Joe is a fucking supernatural god and will smite the viking king brutally.

Joe TKO 11.

Brutality, art, phenom.

DanePugilist
07-07-2007, 08:01 PM
Kessler has little to no chance. Joe is a fucking supernatural god and will smite the viking king brutally.

Joe TKO 11.

Brutality, art, phenom.Kessler has Nietzche in his corner. Prepare for the death of a god slain by the Viking warrior. A mighty clash it will be, but the outcome is certain - Calzaghe will be a god dethroned.

Decebal
07-08-2007, 04:49 AM
Kessler has little to no chance. Joe is a fucking supernatural god and will smite the viking king brutally. Joe TKO 11. Brutality, art, phenom.

Or, as the Egyptians would have put it:

:old :bat1:boxx :viking :tomb

Kessler has Nietzsche in his corner. Prepare for the death of a god slain by the Viking warrior. A mighty clash it will be, but the outcome is certain - Calzaghe will be a god dethroned.

:old:tomb:bat1 :beat:viking:devil:boxx:ldevil

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 04:55 AM
:good:good

Decebal
07-08-2007, 05:02 AM
:good

I've translated your :old into Egyptian so that future generations will be able to understand the clash of views about this legendary fight, even after English becomes a dead language!:lol:

Fallow
07-08-2007, 05:02 AM
Yes he does, this is a very old and faded version of Calzaghe.

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 05:10 AM
I've translated your :old into Egyptian so that future generations will be able to understand the clash of views about this legendary fight, even after English becomes a dead language!:lol::lol::D - they would then become jealous by the notion of gods walking the earth, and historians riddled by the reappearance of Vikings.

Think its the best compliment I have ever gotten, thank you, mate.

pecks
07-08-2007, 05:10 AM
I've favoured Kessler in this matchup for a while now, and his recent performances haven't persuaded me to change my mind.

Kessler by decision.

Decebal
07-08-2007, 05:12 AM
:lol::D - they would then become jealous by the notion of gods walking the earth, and historians riddled by the reappearance of Vikings.

Think its the best compliment I have ever gotten, thank you, mate.

:happy There will always be Vikings!:yep

Scar
07-08-2007, 05:14 AM
Yes he does if he fights right, I'm picking Calzaghe to win by UD or even late TKO here but if Kessler fights right then he definitely has a chance.

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 05:16 AM
:happy There will always be Vikings!:yep:happy - excellent point. This is of course correct.

Awesome emocons btw.

Leeroy
07-08-2007, 05:16 AM
Kessler has little to no chance. Joe is a fucking supernatural god and will smite the viking king brutally.

Joe TKO 11.

Brutality, art, phenom.

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:happy:happy:happy

Fucking A mate.

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 05:19 AM
I've favoured Kessler in this matchup for a while now, and his recent performances haven't persuaded me to change my mind.

Kessler by decision.According to Blocky, you must be a danish retard.

Decebal
07-08-2007, 05:22 AM
ViMKing > J+c

Leeroy
07-08-2007, 05:24 AM
Joe Calzaghe will march to the ring like a Roman General and use and abuse that barbarian!

Decebal
07-08-2007, 05:26 AM
Joe Calzaghe will march to the ring like a Roman General and use and abuse that barbarian!

The VI King will crucify him; it will take him three days to recover, just like it took the other JC.

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 05:32 AM
Joe Calzaghe will march to the ring like a Roman General and use and abuse that barbarian!There is a reason why the Romans never made it that far north.

The romans became selfcontent, selfish and slobby, and the north was just too unruling and strong.

ChuckYoungblood
07-08-2007, 05:33 AM
Once again the barbarians will loot and pillage the brit shores.

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 05:33 AM
The VI King will crucify him; it will take him three days to recover, just like it took the other JC.:lol::lol::lol: - Yes, Kessler has Mjolnir in one hand and the spear of Leonidas in the other.

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 05:34 AM
Once again the barbarians will loot and pillage the brit shores.:good

Decebal
07-08-2007, 05:50 AM
For those who do not like hieroglyphic descriptions, here's a pictorial representation of the fight:


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notice how, due to his brittle hands, Joe is barely hanging on.

P.s. thanks for chipping in, WiDDoW_MaKeR !

Decebal
07-08-2007, 05:55 AM
:happy There will always be Vikings!:yep

...and sometimes, closer than one might expect!

Viking blood still flowing:

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RM Ballantyne's Erling the Bold: A Tale of the Norse Sea-Kings (1869), one of several saga tales for Victorian schoolboys:
Yes, there is perhaps more of Norse blood in your veins than you wot of, reader, whether you be English or Scotch; for these sturdy sea-rovers invaded our lands from north, south, east, and west many a time in days gone by, and held it in possession for centuries at a time, leaving a lasting and beneficial impress on our customs and characters. We have good reason to regard their memory with respect and gratitude, despite their faults and sins, for much of what is good and true in our laws and social customs, much of what is manly and vigorous in the British Constitution, and much of our intense love of freedom and fair play, is due to the pith, pluck, enterprise, and sense of justice that dwelt in the breasts of the rugged old sea-kings of Norway!

ChuckYoungblood
07-08-2007, 05:58 AM
due to his brittle hands, Joe is barely hanging on.

:yep But he just keeps throwing his punches, even at odd angles, doesn't he?

Decebal
07-08-2007, 06:00 AM
:yep But he just keeps throwing his punches, even at odd angles, doesn't he?

he sure does...good ol' Joe!:happy

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 06:02 AM
For those who do not like hieroglyphic descriptions, here's a pictorial representation of the fight:


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notice how, due to his brittle hands, Joe is barely hanging on.

P.s. thanks for chipping in, WiDDoW_MaKeR !Please notice the metaphor of the GOAT in the Viking warriors presence.

I think this picture speaks volumes.

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 06:07 AM
...and sometimes, closer than one might expect!

Viking blood still flowing:

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RM Ballantyne's Erling the Bold: A Tale of the Norse Sea-Kings (1869), one of several saga tales for Victorian schoolboys:Yes, there is perhaps more of Norse blood in your veins than you wot of, reader, whether you be English or Scotch; for these sturdy sea-rovers invaded our lands from north, south, east, and west many a time in days gone by, and held it in possession for centuries at a time, leaving a lasting and beneficial impress on our customs and characters. We have good reason to regard their memory with respect and gratitude, despite their faults and sins, for much of what is good and true in our laws and social customs, much of what is manly and vigorous in the British Constitution, and much of our intense love of freedom and fair play, is due to the pith, pluck, enterprise, and sense of justice that dwelt in the breasts of the rugged old sea-kings of Norway!Actually I just found out three days ago, that I am a decendent of Gorm the old. [Only registered and activated users can see links] Still waiting for the proof though.

Decebal
07-08-2007, 06:37 AM
Actually I just found out three days ago, that I am a decendent of Gorm the old. [Only registered and activated users can see links] Still waiting for the proof though.

The sea and waves may not be ordered back,
But what was Yours, may yet receive the sack, again!
Go Kessler!

"Knutr was exceptionally tall and strong, and the handsomest of men, all except for his nose, which was thin, high set, and rather hooked. He had a fair complexion none the less, and a fine, thick head of hair. His eyes were better than those of other men, both the more handsome and the keener of their sight."

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ChuckYoungblood
07-08-2007, 06:44 AM
Please notice the metaphor of the GOAT in the Viking warriors presence.

I think this picture speaks volumes.

:think You lost me. The goat is Mogens Palle?

And Gorm, who isn't in some way related to that ol fornicator?

ChuckYoungblood
07-08-2007, 06:51 AM
Yes, those were the days...

So. The Spear-Danes in days gone by
and the kings who ruled them had courage and greatness.
There was Shield Sheafson, scourge of many tribes,
a wrecker of mead-benches, rampaging among foes.

Leeroy
07-08-2007, 06:53 AM
For those who do not like hieroglyphic descriptions, here's a pictorial representation of the fight:


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notice how, due to his brittle hands, Joe is barely hanging on.

P.s. thanks for chipping in, WiDDoW_MaKeR !

That's an awsome picture....Who's the artist?

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 06:53 AM
The sea and waves may not be ordered back,
But what was Yours, may yet receive the sack, again!
Go Kessler!

Awesome find, mate...

You went forward, you defeated
the fighter, elm-bows twanged,
sharp were your swords
when you assaulted the fortress:
better still, your success
in the shallows of the Thames:
you worker of warships,
the wolf's jaw knows it well.

Leeroy
07-08-2007, 06:53 AM
Please notice the metaphor of the GOAT in the Viking warriors presence.

I think this picture speaks volumes.
:rofl

Decebal
07-08-2007, 06:54 AM
That's an awsome picture....Who's the artist?

Thor's battle against the giants, by Mårten Eskil Winge ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), 1872

Decebal
07-08-2007, 06:55 AM
Awesome find, mate...

You went forward, you defeated
the fighter, elm-bows twanged,
sharp were your swords
when you assaulted the fortress:
better still, your success
in the shallows of the Thames:
you worker of warships,
the wolf's jaw knows it well.



I actually made that up, but thanks, anyway!:D

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 06:56 AM
:think You lost me. The goat is Mogens Palle?

And Gorm, who isn't in some way related to that ol fornicator?The GOAT being linked to Kessler.

The last part, I would have no clue - do you?

Smazz20
07-08-2007, 06:56 AM
save the poetry for Kesslers hospital bedside after the fight

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 06:57 AM
I actually made that up, but thanks, anyway!:DBetter still - very fitting. You should become the Skjald of Kessler.

Decebal
07-08-2007, 06:58 AM
:blabla save the poetry for Kesslers hospital bedside after the fight :fight

Decebal
07-08-2007, 07:00 AM
Better still - very fitting. You should become the Skjald of Kessler.

:deal

Leeroy
07-08-2007, 07:00 AM
Wrong mates......this is a true description of what'll transpire.

before a long hard fought battle the Roman warrior will utter the words

Ave caesar! Morituri te salutamus

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Decebal
07-08-2007, 07:02 AM
Wrong mates......this is a true description of what'll transpire.

before a long hard fought battle the Roman warrior will utter the words

Ave caesar! Morituri te salutamus

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:huh And here was I thinking you thought Joe had a chance...now you are saying that he is about to die, whilst picturing him bloodied and fallen...:patsch

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 07:03 AM
save the poetry for Kesslers hospital bedside after the fightKessler looked down upon the battered face of the former king. Tears lingering in the corner of his eyes, and with a slight whisper he spoke:

"Oh great former king
a valiant battle was fought.
Valkyries your praise will sing,
that the struggle was not for naught.

You just simply got caught"

Decebal
07-08-2007, 07:05 AM
Kessler looked down upon the battered face of the former king. Tears lingering in the corner of his eyes, and with a slight whisper he spoke:

"Oh great former king
a valiant battle was fought.
Valkyries your praise will sing,
that the struggle was not for naught.

You just simply got caught"

:rofl :rofl :rofl ve-ry good!:happy

teke
07-08-2007, 07:05 AM
I can see advantages and disadvantages for both.

I want JC to win.

Leeroy
07-08-2007, 07:05 AM
:huh And here was I thinking you thought Joe had a chance...now you are saying that he is about to die, whilst picturing him bloodied and fallen...:patsch
:nono

ChuckYoungblood
07-08-2007, 07:08 AM
The last part, I would have no clue - do you?

Sorry, just trying to pull your leg mate - My own bloodline is fucked up by the spanish mercenaries that burned down Koldinghus - no viking blood in those crooked veins :D

Smazz20
07-08-2007, 07:10 AM
Kessler looked down upon the battered face of the former king. Tears lingering in the corner of his eyes, and with a slight whisper he spoke:

"Oh great former king
a valiant battle was fought.
Valkyries your praise will sing,
that the struggle was not for naught.

You just simply got caught"

:D waiting for something like that. talk about walking into it:patsch

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 07:11 AM
:huh And here was I thinking you thought Joe had a chance...now you are saying that he is about to die, whilst picturing him bloodied and fallen...:patsch:lol: Touché - that everyone's mind has accepted what their hearts know.

VIP
07-08-2007, 07:15 AM
I'm gonna have to favour Calzaghe, he has the tools to beat Kessler but Kessler still has a chance no doubt. I mean this is boxing at the highest level and I don't like it when people compare Lacy with Kessler. What do they have in common really? Stylistically they are totally different, Lacy is smaller, slower, come forward in-fighter. Big punchers are always more overrated.

Kessler is a boxer-puncher who does his thing so well, he's bigger, he's got a great jab, great right hand, moves well, great handspeed for a big man, he dominates all of his opponents. Should be a ******* of a fight.

Laydown
07-08-2007, 07:19 AM
...and sometimes, closer than one might expect!

Viking blood still flowing:

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RM Ballantyne's Erling the Bold: A Tale of the Norse Sea-Kings (1869), one of several saga tales for Victorian schoolboys:Yes, there is perhaps more of Norse blood in your veins than you wot of, reader, whether you be English or Scotch; for these sturdy sea-rovers invaded our lands from north, south, east, and west many a time in days gone by, and held it in possession for centuries at a time, leaving a lasting and beneficial impress on our customs and characters. We have good reason to regard their memory with respect and gratitude, despite their faults and sins, for much of what is good and true in our laws and social customs, much of what is manly and vigorous in the British Constitution, and much of our intense love of freedom and fair play, is due to the pith, pluck, enterprise, and sense of justice that dwelt in the breasts of the rugged old sea-kings of Norway!
Explains a lot - Thats why not all English are totally ugly! But it still don't explains why all people from Scotland looks like they do :think

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 07:26 AM
Sorry, just trying to pull your leg mate - My own bloodline is fucked up by the spanish mercenaries that burned down Koldinghus - no viking blood in those crooked veins :D:D - yeah I am fairly certain that Gorm loved his wife Thyra.

I am also fairly certain that the Viking blood was there in your ancestry, before it got deluted:lol::D

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 07:29 AM
:D waiting for something like that. talk about walking into it:patschYou take defeat very well - may your actions guide your king, when the time of defeat arrive.

Smazz20
07-08-2007, 07:40 AM
You take defeat very well - may your actions guide your king, when the time of defeat arrive.

We'll see:D

I just want a good scrap that'll live in the memory for what it is/was. It's the best fight in boxing now, bar none.

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 07:49 AM
We'll see:D

I just want a good scrap that'll live in the memory for what it is/was. It's the best fight in boxing now, bar none.:goodMost definately. I almost cannot believe the fight will be fought. I am so excited at the mere thought of it.

I am certain that the outplay of it will match the expectations.

Boro chris
07-08-2007, 08:06 AM
There is a reason why the Romans never made it that far north.

The romans became selfcontent, selfish and slobby, and the north was just too unruling and strong.

Or just too fucking cold.

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 08:09 AM
Or just too fucking cold.If that was the case, what were they doing in ever-raining England?

deram
07-08-2007, 08:37 AM
So the hype has taken to new heights I can see... even on the day where Klit and Lamon had a rematch...

But really - the fight isn't even ON yet. No signed contract yet.....

ChuckYoungblood
07-08-2007, 08:41 AM
I just hope Calzaghe is as overconfident as the Calzaghe-boys on this forum. To them the Lacy-fight was proof that he is untouchable. I hope he sees it this way too.

Mikkel coming to Wales (or England) as an underdog suits him fine, I think, then he'll let Joe be the main attraction and focus on the fight.

But a vacation in Wales in november? :huh

ChuckYoungblood
07-08-2007, 08:46 AM
So the hype has taken to new heights I can see... even on the day where Klit and Lamon had a rematch...

But really - the fight isn't even ON yet. No signed contract yet.....

True.:D

What will we have left to talk about a week before the fight? (It will happen, although date and location may change)

Boro chris
07-09-2007, 05:59 AM
If that was the case, what were they doing in ever-raining England?

The women.:hey

Fine,firery Celtic lasses back in the day!