View Full Version : If Witter was in hatton position would he give hatton a shot.
john b
01-22-2008, 07:10 PM
Alot of people on this forum I have been suggesting that hatton as been ducking witter. Lets turn this on the flipside if hatton had been badgering witter for seven years to fight him and witter said he would not give hatton a pay day. What would your thoughts be on that.
Thread Stealer
01-22-2008, 07:14 PM
Who knows?
Personal dislike is a weak reason for not giving a deserved fighter his shot at your title (Ricky is the champ @ 140 no matter what the alphabets say).
kg0208
01-22-2008, 07:18 PM
Isn't personal dislike usually a reason TO kick a fighters ass?
john b
01-22-2008, 07:21 PM
Isn't personal dislike usually a reason TO kick a fighters ass?
True. But that does not usually workout.
Imperial1
01-22-2008, 07:21 PM
Well until that happens Hatton doesn't owe Witter jack !!
Witter is acting like Margarito in the Floyd situation ..
Thread Stealer
01-22-2008, 07:21 PM
Isn't personal dislike usually a reason TO kick a fighters ass?
Yeah, that excuse is bollocks.
de la fishnet at first didn't want to give Vargas a fight b/c he didn't want Vargas to get a big payday off of him.
Then when the time was right and the fight had to be made, and DLH took out his personal dislike on Vargas's face.
john b
01-22-2008, 07:23 PM
Well until that happens Hatton doesn't owe Witter jack !!
Witter is acting like Margarito in the Floyd situation ..
Thats what I was thinking.
Imperial1
01-22-2008, 07:31 PM
Witter should challenge Malinaggi win a title and try to force a unification ..Hatton isn't the only game in town ..
john b
01-22-2008, 07:50 PM
Witter should challenge Malinaggi win a title and try to force a unification ..Hatton isn't the only game in town ..
He hisn't but according to the haters he his.
C Money
01-22-2008, 07:55 PM
Honestly, how either one feels about the OTHER isnt real relevant. Hatton was the UNified 40 Champ and during Hatton's foray's to 47? Witter has made himself a top 2 or 3 fighter at 140.
If Hatton beats PM and JW? It'll eliminate all the backlash after Floyd and give him the personal satisfaction he seeks. Liking them DONT MEAN SHIT.:nono TO PROVE WHO's WHAT? IT Invloves Hatton, Malignaggi, and Witter.
john b
01-22-2008, 08:00 PM
what happens if hopkins beats him I know its a long shot but will their still people on here saying hatton is scared of witter? I think yes?
Imperial1
01-22-2008, 08:03 PM
He hisn't but according to the haters he his.
I can't imagine why a fighter would hold up his career for one fighter ..
cdub1012
01-22-2008, 08:03 PM
i remember vargas kept calling out Delahoya ... an DLH said he wasnt gonna fight him cuz of his trash talk then he finally got fed up with it an the rest is history..... just cause a fighter talks crap an challenges another fighter doesnt mean hes better
john b
01-22-2008, 08:06 PM
I can't imagine why a fighter would hold up his career for one fighter ..
Because he his a dick and can't move on.
Imperial1
01-22-2008, 08:11 PM
Because he his a dick and can't move on.
Yeah he needs to turn his attention elsewhere before ring rust starts to settle in !
C Money
01-22-2008, 08:17 PM
what happens if hopkins beats him I know its a long shot but will their still people on here saying hatton is scared of witter? I think yes?
Then Hopkins TAKES HIS PLACE. Though Witter is very likely going to whip Hopkins.
Those 3 are the top 3 at 40 right now.:good
john b
01-22-2008, 08:19 PM
Then Hopkins TAKES HIS PLACE. Though Witter is very likely going to whip Hopkins.
Those 3 are the top 3 at 40 right now.:good
True. Like I said it was a long shot!
Imperial1
01-22-2008, 08:19 PM
Then Hopkins TAKES HIS PLACE. Though Witter is very likely going to whip Hopkins.
Those 3 are the top 3 at 40 right now.:good
If he ends up losing maybe he can fight Vivian Harris for the title of the "I wish I was somebody at 140 belt "!
john b
01-22-2008, 08:21 PM
If he ends up losing maybe he can fight Vivian Harris for the title of the "I wish I was somebody at 140 belt "!
:yep
Carlos Primera
01-22-2008, 09:34 PM
a recognized 'champion' not giving a deserving contender a shot due to dislike is pathetic. seriously i'm not even a hatton hater, and I started a thread giving him props for his fight againt floyd.
gutto
01-23-2008, 05:25 AM
Good Thread :good and the answer imo is would he fuck. I think Witter would be fighting in the states and earning as much money as possable.
Which funny enough is what Hatton is doing but as we know my friend if Witter can drum up some interest state side this fight will be on.
zulander
01-23-2008, 05:45 AM
tuff to call really. Hatton does like to cherry pick his opponents
Witter has never really be a big enuff to draw to pick and choose who he fights - its hard to say. i just wish someone would make the fight if it nevers happens its the biggest "fight that never was" in British Boxing
Isn't personal dislike usually a reason TO kick a fighters ass?
Not when you know that the person who talks shit about you constantly will most likely beat YOUR ass. :D
i think junior would fight ricky no matter what, he has wanted the fight ages back.
to be honest if he had ever been even slightly respectful to rick the fight would have happened by now.
D.Haye-no1-p4p
01-23-2008, 05:57 AM
Good Thread :good and the answer imo is would he fuck. I think Witter would be fighting in the states and earning as much money as possable.
Which funny enough is what Hatton is doing but as we know my friend if Witter can drum up some interest state side this fight will be on.
That's fair enough, but we're talking after all this going stateside to earn 'as much money as possible'.
Hatton has been there done that, and lost. Now he is definitely fighting at home - yet he still refuses to face Witter who holds the WBC belt and is clearly the number 1 challenger in the division.
Tony Harrison
01-23-2008, 06:08 AM
Of course Witter would fight Hatton tommorrow if he was in a position to make the fight happen. It will be the biggest payday of his career by a country mile.
Hatton's people will make this fight eventually imo. All the obvious disdain both men feel toward eachother and the well documented trash talking from both parties will sell the fight to people who don't know who Witter is.
It would be tragic if this fight happened in the States.
Beeston Brawler
01-23-2008, 08:44 AM
I think that Witter should have forgotten about Ricky ages ago, built his own legacy and almost forced Hatton to call HIM out. All this about not being a big enough draw doesn't wash with me - that's his own fault for being in shit fights.
Would Witter fight Hatton if the boot were on the other foot, can't say really!
The fight will happen within the next year or so, but Hatton was American fish to fry first I think.
ThePlugInBabies
01-23-2008, 08:50 AM
Well until that happens Hatton doesn't owe Witter jack !!
Witter is acting like Margarito in the Floyd situation ..
who is more deserving then of a shot at hatton's 140 crown?
john b
01-23-2008, 09:56 AM
I think that Witter should have forgotten about Ricky ages ago, built his own legacy and almost forced Hatton to call HIM out. All this about not being a big enough draw doesn't wash with me - that's his own fault for being in shit fights.
Would Witter fight Hatton if the boot were on the other foot, can't say really!
The fight will happen within the next year or so, but Hatton was American fish to fry first I think.
:good Spot on.
ThePlugInBabies
01-23-2008, 10:00 AM
The fight will happen within the next year or so, but Hatton was American fish to fry first I think.
who? why can none of you hattonsexuals answer this?
if he takes another fight at 147 then he should be stripped of his 140 title.
john b
01-23-2008, 10:03 AM
who? why can none of you hattonsexuals answer this?
if he takes another fight at 147 then he should be stripped of his 140 title.
Hattonsexuals thats original whats up u still sulking about last night. Because nobody knows I mean like the JC fight against hopkins that was speculation before today now get a grip.
ThePlugInBabies
01-23-2008, 10:07 AM
Hattonsexuals thats original whats up u still sulking about last night. Because nobody knows I mean like the JC fight against hopkins that was speculation before today now get a grip.
WTF? :blood
ok, let's try again.
if witter isn't worthy of fighting hatton (a guy coming off a brutal KO loss) then who is? who should he fight instead?
...and do you agree that anymore fights at 147 should result in him losing his 140 title as he is simply holding the division hostage by not fighting in it?
john b
01-23-2008, 10:12 AM
WTF? :blood
ok, let's try again.
if witter isn't worthy of fighting hatton (a guy coming off a brutal KO loss) then who is? who should he fight instead?
...and do you agree that anymore fights at 147 should result in him losing his 140 title as he is simply holding the division hostage by not fighting in it?
So if he goes upto 147, he should lose his title, what like floyd did when he went up to 154. In many respects if floyd is fighting at 154 against oscar he should be strpped of his title. I Hope he fights witter because he his worthy and that he gets his gobby yorkshire face smashed in.
ThePlugInBabies
01-23-2008, 10:14 AM
So if he goes upto 147, he should lose his title, what like floyd did when he went up to 154. In many respects if floyd is fighting at 154 against oscar he should be strpped of his title. I Hope he fights witter because he his worthy and that he gets his gobby yorkshire face smashed in.
floyd only moved up for one fight. if hatton took another fight at 147 that means 3 of his last 5 fights will have been up there. personally i don't think he will, expect him to take a dull, unwarranted gimme at 140 that his fans will lap up.
john b
01-23-2008, 10:18 AM
floyd only moved up for one fight. if hatton took another fight at 147 that means 3 of his last 5 fights will have been up there. personally i don't think he will, expect him to take a dull, unwarranted gimme at 140 that his fans will lap up.
What a bit like witter is doing with hopkins. Hopkins even though he his undefeated should have a loss agianst forbes. Anyway whats hopkins done remotely to get a shot at witter apart from his last name. Also you are talking about witter being given a gimme what was moura then for witter.
MancMexican
01-23-2008, 10:20 AM
What a bit like witter is doing with hopkins. Hopkins even though he his undefeated should have a loss agianst forbes. Anyway whats hopkins done remotely to get a shot at witter apart from his last name. Also you are talking about witter being given a gimme what was moura then for witter.
witterwankers give him a free pass because of hatton
I don't know, but it if I was in Witter's position I'd have a nice cup of shut the fuck up, and concentrate on that fight with Hopkins. Then I'd use that exposure to get bigger and better fights, possibly with Malignaggi, possibly at welterweight
What I wouldn't do, is spend my peak years cunting around at home waiting for a fight with Hatton
ThePlugInBabies
01-23-2008, 10:24 AM
What a bit like witter is doing with hopkins. Hopkins even though he his undefeated should have a loss agianst forbes. Anyway whats hopkins done remotely to get a shot at witter apart from his last name. Also you are talking about witter being given a gimme what was moura then for witter.
another top 10 rated JWW, anything wrong with that?
john b
01-23-2008, 10:26 AM
I don't know, but it if I was in Witter's position I'd have a nice cup of shut the fuck up, and concentrate on that fight with Hopkins. Then I'd use that exposure to get bigger and better fights, possibly with Malignaggi, possibly at welterweight
What I wouldn't do, is spend my peak years cunting around at home waiting for a fight with Hatton
Bigger and better fights for witter than hatton were? Mallinaggi is not a bigger fight than hatton. I think hatton knows this and he his taking the piss yes it his childish but other people also do it?
john b
01-23-2008, 10:30 AM
another top 10 rated JWW, anything wrong with that?
No but hatton gets slated for fighting maussa, urango and castillo but witter can fight a untried hopkins who got beat of forbes.
Bigger and better fights for witter than hatton were? Mallinaggi is not a bigger fight than hatton. I think hatton knows this and he his taking the piss yes it his childish but other people also do it?
I didn't really mean bigger and better than Hatton, I was referring to Hopkins. The point is Witter has wasted a lot of time trying to get this fight, when he could have have gone over to America to gain exposure as Hatton did
ThePlugInBabies
01-23-2008, 10:32 AM
No but hatton gets slated for fighting maussa, urango and castillo but witter can fight a untried hopkins who got beat of forbes.
hatton's "the man" at 140. witter is just a title holder chasing the man. hatton should be giving shots to the real threats of the division but he is freezing them out.
maussa is ok because it was unification.
but JLC was shot to pieces and urango was a nobody. paulie and witter would have been far better options. torres and holt as well would have been an improvement.
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