View Full Version : Are you going to give Wlad Credit for winning or not?
Ayatollah
07-07-2007, 02:02 PM
and why?
mightyd40
07-07-2007, 02:38 PM
i am not a fan of ANY hw as of right now but i do consider wlad to be the best, i will give him credit for the win but i really dont see his win as much of a problem for him
Smith
07-07-2007, 02:40 PM
Why you not give him credit? I dont understand some of you 'fans', he's taking on the last man to beat him like the old skool, its not like there was a better fight to be had at this present moment. What a moronic poll
*BOX_FAN*
07-07-2007, 02:45 PM
Yes but only if he ko's Brewster.
Drew101
07-07-2007, 02:47 PM
Depends on how it's done. If he displays improved technique, and composure during thos times when Brewster connects (and I think Brewster will connect with something pretty substantial at some point in the fight), then I'll be happy to give him credit. If he doesn't...then that will be noted, even if he wins.
I'll give him credit whether he wins or loses and everyone should anyway. Many people talked smack about Wladimir not avenging a loss and now he's doing so, whether he avenges it or not he deserves credit for making this fight happen even though he's the champion right now. Not to forget that he's making yet another exciting event, can't hate someone who's great for boxing.
Mrboogie23
07-07-2007, 03:02 PM
Of course I'll give him credit. It will be a good win. I'm picking Wladimir to win. I dont know how much Lamon has left after such a long layoff and a pretty bad injury.
Even then, in the first fight Lamon was getting a good beating. Wlad will probably stop him but I'll be rooting for Brewster.
I don't understand the logic behind not crediting a win over a good opponent. If this was Klitschko vs. Rick Dyer or whatever that lazy cunt is called, sure, but Brewster is tough and has a very good punch. He's not a bum for fucks sake.
BOGART
07-07-2007, 03:14 PM
Wlad deserves credit for winning, if he does so, today. The question is how much credit should come his way? Brewster is still a top 10 heavyweight, has the style to give Wlad fits, and most importantly- has a t.k.o win over Wlad already. If Wlad gets revenge over a man with those credentials than that should be recognized.
The big question is what does Brewster bring to the fight at this point in his career. The layoff isn't the big issue. 15 months off was what Brewster's body probably needed and its about the same layoff he was coming off of when he beat Wlad previously. For me the layoff is a minor issue. The amount of credit due to Wlad depends on what Brewster has left and how Wlad looks. Those questions could be answered after the fight while the question of what Brewster has left may be answered or we might need to see how Brewster does in his subsequent outings. I'm prepared to give Wlad credit for one of the biggest, if not the biggest, wins of his career. I also think some of that credit can be removed depending on Brewster and the way the fight goes. This could all be moot, however, if Wlad gets beat again.
The Kurgan
07-07-2007, 03:26 PM
He'll certainly get some credit from me; how much depends on (a) how he wins, (b) how Brewster fights and (c) if there's a bogus stoppage or something like that.
Illmatic
07-07-2007, 03:28 PM
Yes. Hes really gained my respect over these last couple years after the Brewster loss. Im a huge Brewster fan, but Id give him props for doing what people said he wouldnt- avenge a loss.
Cookie
07-07-2007, 03:31 PM
He'll definitely get credit. But he has more to lose than to gain from this fight, no doubt. He must win.
rekcutnevets
07-07-2007, 03:47 PM
Because he will be defeating a fighter who previously defeated him. That's about the only reason.
Brewster made a name for himself defeating Wladimir. He would not be known by many had he just been going on his previous record. He has looked iffy as a contender(I didn't regard him as champ) since their fight. He probably should have lost to Kali Meehan, but he sure blasted the hell out of Golata following that fight.
If Klitschko wins, then I'll consider it a good one. Then he should dump that belt of his if they try to make him fight who I've heard to be his mandatory. The organization in my profile has it right about these stupid belts, and organizations. Boxing doesn't need them. It just needs us, as fans, to support who we feel is champion. We should just ignore these organizations all together. The more we stop respecting them, and the more we stop referring to one of their belt holders as champion, the quicker they will go away.
Toopretty
07-07-2007, 03:50 PM
Well if your argument is that he is fighting somebody that beat him, you have to look at the whole scenario. If the fighter has not been active in 2 years plus and you went on to be a champion fighting regularly...I mean ..he gets credit for a win. But no more than that..no extra..at all:good :good :good :good :good
sandwichsurgeon
07-07-2007, 03:52 PM
His stock stays the same (assuming he wins) unless he absolutely demolishes Brewster in which case it rises slightly.
DamonD
07-07-2007, 03:58 PM
Sounds about right.
I'm expecting Wladimir to stop Brewster, so it's a tough one to do better than that...but I'm still expecting it to take a few rounds, so if Wladimir got him out of their within just 3 or 4 rounds or something then that would be notable.
Drew101
07-08-2007, 02:43 PM
Bump- That was a pretty convincing paint job on Brewster, and it can now be stated that WK has, indeed, come into his own over the last year or so. He still has his flaws, but it's gonna take a pretty special fighter/performance to beat him.
1lehudson
07-08-2007, 02:48 PM
He should get about the same amount of credit that all the other guys that beat Brewster got. I said it before the first fight, Brewster is a bum. Wlad got beat by a bum and some of you cats wanted to raise the bum to elite status. Everything before or after his knockout win of Wlad showed that Brewster isnt a great or even good fighter. The guy was a bum that hit a another guy that has a weak chin and got him out of there. Which for Wlad isnt that big of a deal, being that other bums have knocked him out as well.
ChampionsForever
07-08-2007, 05:20 PM
Yes, in my eyes this is one of hes best wins and regardless of how people are saying Lamon was past it he deserves credit for avenging hes defeat against an ever dangerous opponant, and also he proved me dead wrong.
nope , because beating Brewster does nothing for him now , beating a guy that was out for over a year due to a detacher retina , I don't see any fighter coming back from such an injury and competing at top level with out a tune up after being non active for over a year , including not being in the Gym that whole time.
even Ray Leonard fought Kevin Howard before he return to top level competition.
elTerrible
07-08-2007, 07:21 PM
He should get credit, expecially for fighting with a broken hand since the first round.
Everyone likes to talk about how fragile he is or how he has no heart. He never once complained about the hand injury the other night.
The Kurgan
07-08-2007, 07:46 PM
People give Wlad credit for beating a 34 year old ring-worn Brewster, but refuse to give credit to Hatton for beating a 34 year old ring-worn Castillo.
Is it because Hatton is a white European? :think
1lehudson
07-08-2007, 07:50 PM
People give Wlad credit for beating a 34 year old ring-worn Brewster, but refuse to give credit to Hatton for beating a 34 year old ring-worn Castillo.
Is it because Hatton is a white European? :thinkI could be wrong, but isnt Wlad also a white European:huh
The Kurgan
07-08-2007, 07:51 PM
I could be wrong, but isnt Wlad also a white European:huh
You're mistaken. "Wlad The Drac" is his nickname which he got for his reputation for big love-bites. His real name is Nathaniel Washington, and he comes from the South Bronx.
Loufatski
07-08-2007, 07:53 PM
and why?
Too easy, and we all knew it... Bring on Golota!
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