View Full Version : who is the best body puncher of the last 15 years?
warrior85
07-07-2007, 03:20 PM
theres been some great ones chavez,ward&hatton to name a few but who was the best?any thoughts?
RUSKULL
07-07-2007, 03:21 PM
Micky Ward
Miguel Cotto
Ricky Hatton
Knob McDude
07-07-2007, 03:24 PM
theres been some great ones chavez,ward&hatton to name a few but who was the best?any thoughts?
Currently, it's Miguel Cotto in my books.
In the last 15 years, there are plenty to debate over.
My favorite body puncher in the last 15 years is Micky Ward, although I wouldn't call him the best.
I also think SSM is a very underrated body puncher.
mightyd40
07-07-2007, 03:25 PM
Micky Ward
Miguel Cotto
Ricky Hatton
he said 15 years, not days big guy
Illmatic
07-07-2007, 03:27 PM
Chavez
jopez707
07-07-2007, 03:27 PM
Jcc
Jlc
Knob McDude
07-07-2007, 03:32 PM
Chavez
That would be my pick, his son uses that left to the body well also.
Kid probably came out of his mom's birth canal throwing that punch.
sues2nd
07-07-2007, 03:33 PM
Micky Ward
Miguel Cotto
Ricky Hatton
NO WAY Hatton is in that class.
Ward is definately the cream of the crop if we are talking 15 years.
Cotto is the best of this generation easily.
Then I would probably say....Pernell Whitaker? Id say Chavez, but I dont know if you could really call that the past 15 years, so....(Pernell either actually...I have no idea)?
A third one is kinda tough, there are plenty you could make a case for....none that distinctively stand out.
RUSKULL
07-07-2007, 03:35 PM
he said 15 years, not days big guy
Funny shit, but Hatton's not a good body puncher to you? Micky Ward hasn't fought in quite a few years and Cotto has always been a great body puncher.
Those names immediately came to mind........................so fuck off.
RUSKULL
07-07-2007, 03:37 PM
NO WAY Hatton is in that class.
Ward is definately the cream of the crop if we are talking 15 years.
Cotto is the best of this generation easily.
Then I would probably say....Pernell Whitaker? Id say Chavez, but I dont know if you could really call that the past 15 years, so....(Pernell either actually...I have no idea)?
A third one is kinda tough, there are plenty you could make a case for....none that distinctively stand out.
Whenever a fighter can defeat his opponent with a single, well placed body shot they get my vote. Castillo is no tomato can either...............in fact he makes the list for great body punchers of the last 15 years himself.
Micky Ward had many body punch KO's
Toopretty
07-07-2007, 03:46 PM
#1Chavez, #2 Cotto(I feel the punches through the TV), #3the irishman Ward he was pretty effective.
runner ups would be
Mayweather(underrated body puncher)
Hatton(he has a good left hook to the body, he gets his body weight into it.)
Trinidad was pretty good too, and Tyson in his prime was a pretty good body puncher. Cotto is probably there already, but I think the greatest would probably be Chavez.
sues2nd
07-07-2007, 03:51 PM
Whenever a fighter can defeat his opponent with a single, well placed body shot they get my vote. Castillo is no tomato can either...............in fact he makes the list for great body punchers of the last 15 years himself.
Micky Ward had many body punch KO's
But if your going on that criteria, you have to include Hopkins (DLH), Floyd (Mitchell), as well as plenty of others that dont belong in that category.
Hatton is a pretty good body puncher....but I can honestly think of quite a few fighters off the top of my head that are better.
A well placed body shot by any fighter (especially as well placed as that one from Hatton was...) with decent to good power, will drop someone....
sandwichsurgeon
07-07-2007, 03:55 PM
But if your going on that criteria, you have to include Hopkins (DLH), Floyd (Mitchell), as well as plenty of others that dont belong in that category.
Hatton is a pretty good body puncher....but I can honestly think of quite a few fighters off the top of my head that are better.
A well placed body shot by any fighter (especially as well placed as that one from Hatton was...) with decent to good power, will drop someone....
Hatton is the man when it comes to body shots look at how many in a row he hits Jose with, fucking unbelievable.
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RUSKULL
07-07-2007, 03:59 PM
But if your going on that criteria, you have to include Hopkins (DLH), Floyd (Mitchell), as well as plenty of others that dont belong in that category.
Hatton is a pretty good body puncher....but I can honestly think of quite a few fighters off the top of my head that are better.
A well placed body shot by any fighter (especially as well placed as that one from Hatton was...) with decent to good power, will drop someone....
I didn't include Hopkins because his 1 shot KO to the body of Oscar didn't look real to me. Oscar just knew he was losing & found a nice spot on the mat to retire IMO.
omega dega Doom
07-07-2007, 04:12 PM
LOL, almost every thread says something about Cotto or hatton around here so whats that tell you about favortism? lets say the last 25 years ? Julio cesar Chavez hands down was the best as he used it effectively against every opponent he fought including the superfight's! #2 would have to got Mike"the body snatcher" McCallum #3 Mike Tyson #4 Humbert "Chiquita" Gonzales #5 Johnny Tapia are in my book because of how well they used the body attack in big fight's and won!:bbb
rekcutnevets
07-07-2007, 04:15 PM
Chavez was still doing it in '92. He was probable tops in this area.
Whitaker also liked to put his hands on your body. He was not Chavez, but he deserves a mention in going to the body.
Bigcat
07-07-2007, 04:17 PM
Mike McCallum..
markbrooklyn
07-07-2007, 04:18 PM
Cotto gotta be right up there with Chavez IMO.. Also Floyd is very underrated in body punching.. He doesnt punch the hardest in the body but hes very effective at doing it especially with that sharp little jab.. Just watch his fight with Corrales and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Irish Steel
07-07-2007, 04:19 PM
Ward... easily.
He was clearly losing against burton, but he ko'd him with a punch to the liver. Amazing.
markbrooklyn
07-07-2007, 04:21 PM
Ward... easily.
He was clearly losing against burton, but he ko'd him with a punch to the liver. Amazing.
Burton?? WHO??? Enough said!
Toopretty
07-07-2007, 04:27 PM
Burton?? WHO??? Enough said!
Hey, dont diss Burton:bart:bart:bart:bart:bart:bart:bart:bart
omega dega Doom
07-07-2007, 04:29 PM
Cotto gotta be right up there with Chavez IMO.. Also Floyd is very underrated in body punching.. He doesnt punch the hardest in the body but hes very effective at doing it especially with that sharp little jab.. Just watch his fight with Corrales and you'll see what I'm talking about.when mayweather fought corrales, Diego had many problems going into the fight,he was on the verge of going to jail,having many issues making weight(that obvious cause' no fighter gets knocked down 7X and keeps getting up likt that,it is a sign of being really weak,more then likely from rapid weight loss) what about the that JL Castillo used a body attack against mayweather in their first fight to keep him from dancing around and you know hoe most people and 95% of the boxing experts feel about that fight?castillo should have won! then what about James Toney,Holyfield,Roy jones jr., Juilan "the hawk" Jackson, Ricardo Lopez,Michael carbajal,Tito trinindad,Tony"the tiger" lopez,John-john molina,edwin "chapo" rosario,and matthew Hilton?:think
mightyd40
07-07-2007, 04:43 PM
Funny shit, but Hatton's not a good body puncher to you? Micky Ward hasn't fought in quite a few years and Cotto has always been a great body puncher.
Those names immediately came to mind........................so fuck off.
never said they werent good body punchers, it just seems like u are picking todays best punchers, excluding ward of course....and forgeting about the rest of those 15 years..........so fuck off
Toopretty
07-07-2007, 04:44 PM
when mayweather fought corrales, Diego had many problems going into the fight,he was on the verge of going to jail,having many issues making weight(that obvious cause' no fighter gets knocked down 7X and keeps getting up likt that,it is a sign of being really weak,more then likely from rapid weight loss) what about the that JL Castillo used a body attack against mayweather in their first fight to keep him from dancing around and you know hoe most people and 95% of the boxing experts feel about that fight?castillo should have won! then what about James Toney,Holyfield,Roy jones jr., Juilan "the hawk" Jackson, Ricardo Lopez,Michael carbajal,Tito trinindad,Tony"the tiger" lopez,John-john molina,edwin "chapo" rosario,and matthew Hilton?:think
Hey bozo we are not talking about one fight, mayweather uses that shot in all of his fights. And it is not the hardest but effective. He broke guys down with it over time. The hardest shots floyd landedon gatti were the body shots. The head shots gatti could take. As said, Floyd is dependent upon his body attack as all the fighters mentioned. He was bending ODH in half with it as well. Koed Mitchell with that shot(he is chinny but I dont think gutty..new term.lol) anyway. Floyd is one of the most effective body punchers and Castillos body attack did nothing to hurt floyds stamina..b/c WHO FINISHED THE FIGHT STRONGER....I suggest you watch rounds 10-12 again..get a touch up.
achillesthegreat
07-07-2007, 05:14 PM
At the moment it's all about Floyd, Miguel and Ricky. Their body attacks are world class when they are on form.
Ray Mercer
07-07-2007, 07:56 PM
At the moment it's all about Floyd, Miguel and Ricky. Their body attacks are world class when they are on form.
Floyd isn't a bodypuncher. I've never seen him hurt anyone to the body or stop anyone. That jab to the body is a worthless shot that does nothing. If you're not hooking to the body you're doing nothing.
Knob McDude
07-07-2007, 08:10 PM
Floyd isn't a bodypuncher. I've never seen him hurt anyone to the body or stop anyone. That jab to the body is a worthless shot that does nothing. If you're not hooking to the body you're doing nothing.
He stopped Mitchell with a body shot, in his first fight at 147.
markbrooklyn
07-07-2007, 08:11 PM
Floyd isn't a bodypuncher. I've never seen him hurt anyone to the body or stop anyone. That jab to the body is a worthless shot that does nothing. If you're not hooking to the body you're doing nothing.
Obviously you don't know ANYTHING about boxing.. That "worthless" jab to the body takes alot of energy away from a person.. Why do you think the boxers try to block it? if it did nothing they wouldnt even bother tryin to block it.. And go watch Oscars fights when flodyd sr was training him.. he was doing the exact same thing jabbin to the body copying off PBF.
thewoo
07-07-2007, 08:14 PM
First name that popped into my head when I saw the thread title was Chavez so I'm going with him
dangerousity
07-07-2007, 08:26 PM
Ward is not a better bodypuncher than Cotto or Hatton. How good you are is all relative to the opponent you beat. Wards bodypunching techniques wasnt enough to stop Gatti...nuff said.
Thread Stealer
07-09-2007, 12:51 AM
Floyd isn't a bodypuncher. I've never seen him hurt anyone to the body or stop anyone. That jab to the body is a worthless shot that does nothing. If you're not hooking to the body you're doing nothing.
Floyd hurt Gatti to the body, dropped Bruseles, G. Vargas, and Mitchell with body shots. His body attack was key in his fight versus Judah as well.
He's not going to focus to the ribs as much as guys like JCC or Hatton but he mixes the bodyshots in there well.
Thread Stealer
07-09-2007, 12:55 AM
jab to the body is more strategy then anything else is just so it bothers the opponent and then tries to block it then to set up something else upstairs.
Thats not really body punching.
body punching is constant attack to the body with hard shots that dig in.
No it isn't. You can mix it in well, or be a consistent attacker to the body.
For instance, a slapper like Byrd generally throws quick shots upstairs, but sneaks in body shots here and there. He moved Ike back with a straight left hand to the body and had Tua more hurt than he's ever been in round 8 of their fight. Roy Jones mixed it in well, as he would attack the head but also throw good body shots as well, such as the ones that stopped Wolfe and Hill, dropped Kelly, hurt Telesco and Toney (whose resistance to body shots is top notch), and saved the day against Tarver.
Other guys like J.C.C., a young MAB, Hatton, etc....are more consistent in attacking the body.
knockout
07-09-2007, 03:17 AM
right now it has to be Cotto:smoke
YOUNG*LORD
07-09-2007, 03:20 AM
Cotto, Chavez and Ward.
ron u.k.
07-09-2007, 07:31 AM
at this moment in time i'd say cotto.last 15 years when did barry mcGuighan retire? he was a hell of a body puncher.
Raggamuffin
07-09-2007, 07:57 AM
The original Body Snatcher, Mike McCallum off course
Minotauro
07-09-2007, 08:47 AM
Has to be Juilo Cesar Chavez his left hook to the body was unreal.
Shaun Spensley
07-09-2007, 02:27 PM
i would have to go with ward.. he got mutiple one punch ko's to the body and won a bunch of fights becasue of that left hook to the liver. greatest bodypuncher of all time BOB FRIZSIMMONS, he invented the one punch knockout
ko factor
07-09-2007, 03:21 PM
Vassily Jirov... I saw him knocked out a lot of his opponents by a body shot.
achillesthegreat
07-09-2007, 03:22 PM
Floyd isn't a bodypuncher. I've never seen him hurt anyone to the body or stop anyone. That jab to the body is a worthless shot that does nothing. If you're not hooking to the body you're doing nothing.
You don't know what the hell you are on about. Floyd is a complete body puncher who has stopped and dropped fighters with just about every shot there is to the body. He has done to D fighters to A fighters. In his major fights i.e. Castillo, Corrales, Judah etc body punching is a major component. He even stunned DLH to the body.
The jab is worthless but it kept Jose Luis Castillo away. You seriously don't know what the hell you are on about.
PowerPuncher
07-09-2007, 03:41 PM
No mention of Tyson? Viscous bodypunching and a real 1 shot bodystopper.
No mention of Barrera? Fantastic bodypuncher, especially at 122.
No mention of Tyszu? Look at what he did to Hurtados body
RJJ could crack to the body
WTF are people mentioning Floyd for? His work to the body is okay, but Floyds offense isn't great in anyway and isn't what wins him fights. Compare Mayweathers bodyattack to Chavez/Tyson/Barrera/Tyszu - its not worth bothering
Cotto/Hatton are good picks.
Shake
07-09-2007, 04:21 PM
Chavez was the best. I wholeheartedly believe he could have won some of his title defenses without ever throwing a punch upstairs if he had to.
emanuel_augustus
07-09-2007, 05:03 PM
I can't believe more people aren't mentioning Vassilly Jirov. He was one of the few guys that would actually look for the body to set up the head.
Strong kid too, his left hooks to the ribs were just painful to watch. Check out his brutal body of KO of Dale Brown.
He shattered Terry McGroom's ribs with a shot in the first round that echoed through the arena.
He's up there with JCC and Ward.
Andre
07-09-2007, 06:46 PM
Roy Jones Jr
Pimp C
07-09-2007, 06:49 PM
McCallum, Chavez, Cotto, PBF, Ward & JLC
Ted Stickles
07-09-2007, 07:09 PM
Micky Ward
Miguel Cotto
Ricky Hatton
and Chavez
chewy 22
07-09-2007, 07:15 PM
i always thought Duran was a good body puncher
Thread Stealer
07-09-2007, 07:25 PM
Last 15 years?
I don't know, Barrera maybe? Chavez, but most of his best work was done before 1992, although he had some nice wins from 92' on. I would say most of the top fighters since 1992 were good body punchers and understood the importance of going to the body.
Bummy Davis
07-09-2007, 07:27 PM
Chavez, Duran,Hatton,Cotto,Ward,McCallum
chewy 22
07-09-2007, 07:32 PM
Best since 92? I think not. Duran's best years were well before then.
I know, im reaching :happy shit if McCallum counts, he can to :good
Bigcat
07-09-2007, 08:02 PM
Mike McCallum...
Mike Tyson...
Hopkins....
Hatton........
fightking12
07-09-2007, 08:05 PM
Micky Ward
Miguel Cotto
Ricky Hatton
:bbb
Ray Mercer
07-09-2007, 08:28 PM
jab to the body is more strategy then anything else is just so it bothers the opponent and then tries to block it then to set up something else upstairs.
Thats not really body punching.
body punching is constant attack to the body with hard shots that dig in.
Exactly. A jab to the body does very little damage. Mayweather is not a great bodypuncher. Chavez, Cotto, Hatton, Gatti to a degree, Barrera and others are body punchers.
bandeedo
07-09-2007, 10:13 PM
chavez hands down, you just cant throw a more perfect left hook to the liver than he did.
ron u.k.
07-10-2007, 07:29 AM
[QUOTE=Ray Mercer]Exactly. A jab to the body does very little damage. Mayweather is not a great bodypuncher. Chavez, Cotto, Hatton, Gatti to a degree, Barrera and others are body punchers.[/QUOTEwell i know he knocked mitchell out with one bodyshot and although mitchell was over the other side of the hill i think that was mighty impressive,no one ever did that to him.
ayala
07-10-2007, 10:56 AM
Ward can knock you out with one body shot and Cotto & Chavez Sr can wear you out with body shots
rodney
07-10-2007, 11:59 AM
Mathew Hilton.
digiram
07-10-2007, 12:11 PM
Floyd isn't a bodypuncher. I've never seen him hurt anyone to the body or stop anyone. That jab to the body is a worthless shot that does nothing. If you're not hooking to the body you're doing nothing.
You must've missed the Mitchell fight.
Thread Stealer
07-10-2007, 12:18 PM
You must've missed the Mitchell fight.
And Goyo Vargas, Henry Bruseles, Arturo Gatti, and Zab Judah.
Seriously, some people act like you have to always dig in the body constantly and take out guys to the body like Mickey Ward to be a good bodypuncher.
You don't. Effective bodypunching can come from guys that mix in body punches in their attack very well to hurt and weaken their opponent, or they may hurt their guys with a body shot and make them leary of the body attack, then go back upstairs.
Vantage_West
07-10-2007, 12:30 PM
Ward... easily.
He was clearly losing against burton, but he ko'd him with a punch to the liver. Amazing.um didnt burton get up and get robbed...is this another burton...augustus?:think
Thread Stealer
07-10-2007, 12:33 PM
um didnt burton get up and get robbed...is this another burton...augustus?:think
He's probably mixing him up with Sanchez.
Ward won a wide decision over Emmanuel Burton/Augustus. It was a hometown thing. The fight was close, but the judges had Ward far ahead.
brooklyn1550
07-10-2007, 12:49 PM
Mike McCallum
Miguel Cotto
Julio Cesar Chavez
Marco Antonio Barrera
Micky Ward
Ricky Hatton
Bernard Hopkins
Jose Luis Castillo
Pimp C
07-10-2007, 12:53 PM
And Goyo Vargas, Henry Bruseles, Arturo Gatti, and Zab Judah.
Seriously, some people act like you have to always dig in the body constantly and take out guys to the body like Mickey Ward to be a good bodypuncher.
You don't. Effective bodypunching can come from guys that mix in body punches in their attack very well to hurt and weaken their opponent, or they may hurt their guys with a body shot and make them leary of the body attack, then go back upstairs.
Excellent post as usual.:good
Shaun Spensley
07-10-2007, 01:54 PM
bob frizsimmons could knock out any man with one body punch, greatest body puncher of all time... but u dont need to be good at math to know we fought more than 15 years ago lol
freddy-wak
07-10-2007, 03:01 PM
no arguement....CHAVEZ
grayggr
07-10-2007, 03:24 PM
Hatton deserves to be up there. Turned pro in what 1997?? 10 years as a pro and quite a few of his KO's have come from devasting hooks to the body.
Sakura
07-10-2007, 03:25 PM
Hatton
Jirov
Nigel_Benn
07-10-2007, 05:22 PM
The top 3 Bodypunchers in the last 15 years are
1.Chavez
2.MAB
3.Roy Jones- Surprised he hasnt been mentioned more he was incredbile when he punched to the body when he koed Virgil Hill that sounded like a rifle.
Street Lethal
07-10-2007, 06:00 PM
15 years just about puts Chavez outside consideration, but I will still put him up there. He was a vicious body puncher. Cotto is a wicked body puncher, as well.
15 years you'd have to give it to Mike McCallum imo.
psychopath
07-10-2007, 07:28 PM
JCC Sr. :yep
:good
..another shout for the bodysnatcher, mike mcallum..
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