~ Antonio MARGARITO v. Kermit CINTRON ~ ANALYSIS and PREDICTION Thread ~

[Decebal]

What do you think each will bring to the table?

What do you expect their strategy to be?

How could each win?

How do you think this fight will play out?

What is your prediction?

[BigBone]

Oh, I've just made the same topic 5 minutes ago:

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[Decebal]

Oh, I've just made the same topic 5 minutes ago:

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Yeah, sorry, mate...saw it, but I noticed the poll wasn't public...it helps to see who votes for what; I also print out all the names who got it right at the end!:good

Don't take it as a slight, please!:good

[Relentless]

cintron folds under pressure, margarito makes him cry again.

[Ambition_Def]

Margarito stops him again.

Too much pressure, chin too solid. Cintron won't be able to hurt him easily. Say what you will about Margarito, but his chin and determination are second to none in this division.

I'll say it'll be a tad later, but same result. TKO win for Margarito.

Now Tony, just don't do anything stupid like look for the knockout. Just build up pressure and volume. Do what got you there. :good

[psychopath]

Same results . . . Marg beats him.

[Decebal]

Not the fight we wanted, really...

[jc]

Never saw the first fight but looking forward to the rematch. Cintron has imporved and is hitting hard. Marg but be a bit too clever, but ill go out on a limb and say Cintron gets the nod. KC camp obviously see differences in their fighters and in AM to call for the fight.

Still a great match, to compliment a great division.

I want to see Cotto - Cintron!:hey

[Decebal]

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[C Money]

Replay of the first fight. Cintron is majorly over rated and cant fight inside. Margarito knows he can get inside and WILL AGAIN:yep
Marg is tough enough, big enough, and active enough to get inside. When he does? Cintron will fall apart and get taken out.

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[albeziel]

Cintron will try and outbox Margarito, I think he will not look for a KO this time and Margarito of course will beat Cintron again, he is too powerful for Cintron.

My prediction: Margarito by late KO

[jc]

Okay just saw the fight. :yep It seems to be the Cintron losing had alot to do with inexperience, the fast start seemed to gas him out come the mid rounds, admittadly Margos workrate had something to do with it, but I dont think the KDs were from any one shot in particular more KC being overwhelmed by a barrage and exhausted by the pace.

If he can box for the first few round pick up some pts before loading up and turning it into a war, he can win imo.

I think its worth keeping a eye on the bookies in this one, see what odds you can get on Kermit...

[albeziel]

Never saw the first fight but looking forward to the rematch. Cintron has imporved and is hitting hard. Marg but be a bit too clever, but ill go out on a limb and say Cintron gets the nod. KC camp obviously see differences in their fighters and in AM to call for the fight.

Still a great match, to compliment a great division.

I want to see Cotto - Cintron!:hey

Why not see it in youtube JC? if you see the fight you'll realize that Kermit's body is his weakness and Margarito throws nice combinations to the body. In the fight with Feliciano it was evident that Kermit has problems fighting on the inside and Feliciano doen't have any power at all IMO.

[albeziel]

Okay just saw the fight. :yep It seems to be the Cintron losing had alot to do with inexperience, the fast start seemed to gas him out come the mid rounds, admittadly Margos workrate had something to do with it, but I dont think the KDs were from any one shot in particular more KC being overwhelmed by a barrage and exhausted by the pace.

If he can box for the first few round pick up some pts before loading up and turning it into a war, he can win imo.

I think its worth keeping a eye on the bookies in this one, see what odds you can get on Kermit...

ignore my previous post then

[Ramshall1]

I see Cintron trying to stick and move, stick and move. . . the pressure will likely be too much and I see AM outworking him. . . .AM by decision.

[Quik]

Cintron will try to outbox Margarito moving and jabbing, trying to get Margarito at the end of his big punches. It will work at the beginning but he won't be able to hurt Margarito and will begin to gas out, while Margarito will build his confidence.

Margarito will be able to get inside as will as he is ready to pay the price for it and he will work to the body of an exhausted Cintron. He will throw a lot as the fight progress and I see the referee stopping the fight on a barrage of unanswered punches thrown by Margarito around the 8th round.

[jc]

The Cintron camp have obviosuly seen something different in their man to call out Margo again. I honestly think he can pull it off, Margo is better at fighting on the inside while to hget the best out of Cintrons punches he need an arms length. if he boxes well early and try to land his bombs late he could take it.

Cintron tight decision win!

[C Money]

The Cintron camp have obviosuly seen something different in their man to call out Margo again. I honestly think he can pull it off, Margo is better at fighting on the inside while to hget the best out of Cintrons punches he need an arms length. if he boxes well early and try to land his bombs late he could take it.

Cintron tight decision win!

Have you seen Cintron vs Feliciano?:huh

IF you watch that fight? There's nothing that inidcates Cintron will avoid getting:
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Cintron backed out of this weekends fight against Williams. Which was BULLSHIT! Not because of injury:nono Because they would have rescheduled it but Cintron flat out didnt want it.

Maybe they've convinced Cintron he'll catch Marg in:nono the end like he did Feliciano........:lol:

I'm not a Margarito supporter either:nono Its been proven once aleady while Cintron looks even worse:-( :-(

[Decebal]

Have you seen Cintron vs Feliciano?:huh

IF you watch that fight? There's nothing that inidcates Cintron will avoid getting:
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Cintron backed out of this weekends fight against Williams. Which was BULLSHIT! Not because of injury:nono Because they would have rescheduled it but Cintron flat out didnt want it.

Maybe they've convinced Cintron he'll catch Marg in:nono the end like he did Feliciano........:lol:

I'm not a Margarito supporter either:nono Its been proven once aleady while Cintron looks even worse:-( :-(

Love your use of Smilies, C Money!:yep

Don't like your new avatar, though...:verysad

[C Money]

Love your use of Smilies, C Money!:yep

Don't like your new avatar, though...:verysad


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[la-califa]

Will be about as competitive as Foreman-Frazier II. or Liston-Patterson II. Another brutale Kayo.

[brooklyn1550]

ANALYSIS OF CINTRON vs MARGARITO II

What do you think each will bring to the table?
Margarito: The confidence of knowing he won the first fight, strength, good power, great stamina, very solid chin, superior workrate and fighting spirit. Negatives are wide punches and defensive liabilities.

Cintron: Crushing power, better technical skills, improved confidence under Steward, and the straighter punches. Negatives include succeptability to pressure, questionable mentality, and getting stopped by Margarito before. His stamina was very questionable in the first fight.

What do you expect their strategy to be?
Margarito: Pressure, pressure, pressure! He wants to start out fast and go right at Cintron. I expect him to throw a lot of punches, work Cintron's body, and stay right on top of him, not giving him much room to work with and hoping to wear him down.

Cintron: Kermit will look to keep Margarito at a distance, but to do this, he needs to work his jab much more than he has recently. He will try to catch Margarito when he trys to get in close. I think he will be looking to outbox him and not get into too many exchanges.

How could each win?
Margarito: Doing what he did in the first fight, coming forward, working the body, keeping up a higher punch output, and taking full advantage of Cintron's inability to handle pressure. Margarito will win if he makes this a rough fight on the inside.

Cintron: Outboxing Margarito and catching him with more punches as well as the harder punches. His left jab is key in this fight and if he has any chance of winning, he must throw it with conviction and move laterally to keep Margarito off balance and not allow him to get set to throw. Cintron has to have better conditioning than he did in the first fight.

How do you think this fight will play out?
I expect this to end up like the first, just lasting longer. Cintron might start out real strong and may stun Margarito with big right hands and left hooks coming in, but as the fight progresses, Margarito's pressure and consistency will take it's toll on Cintron, who once again, cannot deal with the workrate and pressure.

What is your prediction?
Antonio Margarito TKO8 Kermit Cintron

[Kegsy]

Margarito mid rounds KO.

[Lance_Uppercut]

I wonder how quickly Margarito will start out this time. He really gave Golden Johnson no time to start or room to breath. He's acknowledged he shouldn't wait too long to get his in fight going. Could be an early night's work for Margarito if he starts strong again. He'll have a huge mental edge over Cintron already and he knows he can take his punches.

If it goes on longer, factoring the Feliciano fight with Cintron and how Cintron was in danger late. He was tired and discourages his punches weren't slowing down Feliciano like he wanted, seeing as he landed quite a bit of hard and clean punches. It's doubtful this goes to a decision as well.

Cintron's bet bet is a KO win. Earlier the better for him.

But my money's on Margarito.

After this, it looks like Cotto, but if something happens with him, Williams would be the likely bout next for Margarito.

[huki]

Brooklyn's analysis was spot on and pretty much the story of the matchup, but I think there's one other important thing to understand about this fight. Cintron has wanted this fight ever since he lost to Margarito in their first fight. He will be extremely focused and motivated to win like never before. The first match had really messed up his confidence as a fighter and it is very important to him to avenge this, because if he gets KO'ed again I think he will be ruined. He is the better boxer and will definitely look better and be more prepared than he was a few years ago. But saying all that, Cintron's has a huge weakness against any B level pressure fighters, so it will be very interesting to see how quickly he will break down and how badly he will break down. I'm actually more excited about this match than Cintron-Williams. It should be exciting and it's a closer fight than a lot of people think. If I had to pick I would choose Margarito by a late round stoppage, but I'm definitely not laying down a penny on it. Margarito is just too shitty of a fighter and if Cintron's mental state is a lot better than it was in their first encounter he has a great chance of winning. Hopefully Judah can take on Margarito for the title if he beats Cintron again.. that was a great proposed matchup and Judah would beat him.

[Decebal]

ANALYSIS OF CINTRON vs MARGARITO II

What do you think each will bring to the table?
Margarito: The confidence of knowing he won the first fight, strength, good power, great stamina, very solid chin, superior workrate and fighting spirit. Negatives are wide punches and defensive liabilities.

Cintron: Crushing power, better technical skills, improved confidence under Steward, and the straighter punches. Negatives include succeptability to pressure, questionable mentality, and getting stopped by Margarito before. His stamina was very questionable in the first fight.

What do you expect their strategy to be?
Margarito: Pressure, pressure, pressure! He wants to start out fast and go right at Cintron. I expect him to throw a lot of punches, work Cintron's body, and stay right on top of him, not giving him much room to work with and hoping to wear him down.

Cintron: Kermit will look to keep Margarito at a distance, but to do this, he needs to work his jab much more than he has recently. He will try to catch Margarito when he trys to get in close. I think he will be looking to outbox him and not get into too many exchanges.

How could each win?
Margarito: Doing what he did in the first fight, coming forward, working the body, keeping up a higher punch output, and taking full advantage of Cintron's inability to handle pressure. Margarito will win if he makes this a rough fight on the inside.

Cintron: Outboxing Margarito and catching him with more punches as well as the harder punches. His left jab is key in this fight and if he has any chance of winning, he must throw it with conviction and move laterally to keep Margarito off balance and not allow him to get set to throw. Cintron has to have better conditioning than he did in the first fight.

How do you think this fight will play out?
I expect this to end up like the first, just lasting longer. Cintron might start out real strong and may stun Margarito with big right hands and left hooks coming in, but as the fight progresses, Margarito's pressure and consistency will take it's toll on Cintron, who once again, cannot deal with the workrate and pressure.

What is your prediction?
Antonio Margarito TKO8 Kermit Cintron

Thank you!:good

[Decebal]

Brooklyn's analysis was spot on and pretty much the story of the matchup, but I think there's one other important thing to understand about this fight. Cintron has wanted this fight ever since he lost to Margarito in their first fight. He will be extremely focused and motivated to win like never before. The first match had really messed up his confidence as a fighter and it is very important to him to avenge this, because if he gets KO'ed again I think he will be ruined. He is the better boxer and will definitely look better and be more prepared than he was a few years ago. But saying all that, Cintron's has a huge weakness against any B level pressure fighters, so it will be very interesting to see how quickly he will break down and how badly he will break down. I'm actually more excited about this match than Cintron-Williams. It should be exciting and it's a closer fight than a lot of people think. If I had to pick I would choose Margarito by a late round stoppage, but I'm definitely not laying down a penny on it. Margarito is just too shitty of a fighter and if Cintron's mental state is a lot better than it was in their first encounter he has a great chance of winning. Hopefully Judah can take on Margarito for the title if he beats Cintron again.. that was a great proposed matchup and Judah would beat him.

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[C Money]

Brooklyn's analysis was spot on and pretty much the story of the matchup, but I think there's one other important thing to understand about this fight. Cintron has wanted this fight ever since he lost to Margarito in their first fight. He will be extremely focused and motivated to win like never before. The first match had really messed up his confidence as a fighter and it is very important to him to avenge this, because if he gets KO'ed again I think he will be ruined. He is the better boxer and will definitely look better and be more prepared than he was a few years ago. But saying all that, Cintron's has a huge weakness against any B level pressure fighters, so it will be very interesting to see how quickly he will break down and how badly he will break down. I'm actually more excited about this match than Cintron-Williams. It should be exciting and it's a closer fight than a lot of people think. If I had to pick I would choose Margarito by a late round stoppage, but I'm definitely not laying down a penny on it. Margarito is just too shitty of a fighter and if Cintron's mental state is a lot better than it was in their first encounter he has a great chance of winning. Hopefully Judah can take on Margarito for the title if he beats Cintron again.. that was a great proposed matchup and Judah would beat him.

Cintron cant fight inside FOR SHIT:nono Feliciano?:D
Thats what about a HALF of Margarito?:huh
Margarito got inside once, he'll do it again.:yep

Its gonna take the same kind of lucky flurry it took Cintron to beat Feliciano, against AM. Yet margarito is bigger, stronger, more active, and has TKO'd this guy before. Margarito will take his punch long enough and is strong enough that I cant see Cintron winning.

I'm truly amazed:shock: , that they have somehow gotten Cintron's confidence up enough to take this. How on EARTH has his confidence risen? By getting seriously lucky, seriously late, against an over matched opponent and barely escaping with a victory? After all? It led to the immediate nixing of Williams as a possibility. Paul Williams would beat the snot outta Cintron for certain.

Barring some unforseen/unheard of issue with Margarito? I gotta believe this is a REPLAY:cool:

[C Money]

For the life of me, I don't understand why Cintron and his team want this fight right now, or ever for that matter.

It wasn't like the first fight was outstanding or even competitive.
I just don't see how Cintron has shown anything that leads me to believe the outcome will be any different this time around.

Cintron's team should be looking out for his best interest by trying to secure money bouts with someone like Mosley or even a guy like Gomez (before he was offered up to Cotto) . If your going to cash a guy out, why not make as much as possible.

And after Cintron gets blasted out again by Margarito, how much earning power will he have left ? At least if he lost to a guy like Mosley, especially if it was a decent fight, he could retain a lot more future earnings potential.

This fight will go down as being a collosal management mistake.:hat

My guess? is what other option do they really have? Cintron has a belt so you cant just hide him behind stiffs til he's ready. Hell a wasnt so stiff almost beat him. Financially? Seems like they gave a him a super pep talk and are taking the risk.

Cintron will likely blame them, talk shit, and whine afterwards about it. But there's a pattern apparent in all of this and it happens to involve Kermit.

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[Carlos Primera]

margo walks him down and makes kermy cry again.