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*BOX_FAN*
07-07-2007, 06:14 PM
Who next do you want see against Wladimir?

doom bull
07-07-2007, 06:15 PM
Lennox. Will never happen but he is the only guy other than Vitali than can pose any threat.

The Hitman
07-07-2007, 06:18 PM
Give him an inbetween tuneup, then fight the winner of Ibragimov-Chagaev.

Agreed, lets make this unification happen. And hopefully by the time this fight happens, the WBC mess will have sorted itself out and we can have the first unification of the "Big Four" belts in the Heavyweight division.

Sundance
07-07-2007, 06:18 PM
The only guy who could maybe beat him is his brother. That fight would gross Tysonesque money. Serious fall out required!

thewoo
07-07-2007, 06:19 PM
I don't see the point of a tune up. Go straight for unification.

teetop
07-07-2007, 06:21 PM
Give him an inbetween tuneup, then fight the winner of Ibragimov-Chagaev.

He doesn't need a tune-up, when he delivered a onesided beating.

I want him to face the winner of peter/maskaev first then next summer
the winner of chagaev/ibragimov. Fuck his mandatories in b/n. The people won't care if he has the IBF belt anyway.

Irish Steel
07-07-2007, 06:25 PM
HE has WBO belt right? Isnt that the shittiest belt?

barneyrub
07-07-2007, 06:28 PM
He needs to beat the chagaev ibragomov winner. He will hold the lineage of victory of Wlads loss to Brewster! Until then wlad cant claim toi be the man. Not because of the titles they hold but because of the lineage of his loss to Brewster which follows to -sergei Lychhiavich-briggs-Ibragamov

thewoo
07-07-2007, 06:28 PM
HE has WBO belt right? Isnt that the shittiest belt?

No he has the IBF. He lost the WBO to brewster. He also has the IBO, a fine orginization that is

betman
07-07-2007, 06:31 PM
unification...i dont want to see this kind of bouts anymore...i begin to get bore...we wait these fights for months and then watching silly fights..a man who didnt fight for 14 months cant fight with a champion...we need new rules about voluntary defenses ...champions of the organizations fight 2 times a year..most of them r waste of time..somes makes money they dont deserve cos of this fights..they shouldnt allow a boxer who was inactive for 14 months...

T.C.W
07-07-2007, 06:32 PM
anybody at this stage, he is now in a class above the rest.

koraytyson
07-07-2007, 06:35 PM
unification...i dont want to see this kind of bouts anymore...i begin to get bore...we wait these fights for months and then watching silly fights..a man who didnt fight for 14 months cant fight with a champion...we need new rules about voluntary defenses ...champions of the organizations fight 2 times a year..most of them r waste of time..somes makes money they dont deserve cos of this fights..they shouldnt allow a boxer who was inactive for 14 months...

Absoloutely,I agree you.World Boxing organizers must arrenge about voluntary defence.For example,If the fighter who wants to be a challenger ,he must fight (at least 2 fight) before face to champion.Brewtser is inactive for 14 months.This is very long time for boxer.

eze
07-07-2007, 06:36 PM
Koraytyson. It was along time but Wlad only has to fight a mando once a year.


Wlad can fight his new mando. And be cleared for the next year and half to fight for Unifications.

J_Roth
07-07-2007, 06:37 PM
Winner of the Cha/Ibr fight. Maybe a stay busy fight between them tho.

Heavyrighthand
07-07-2007, 06:47 PM
No question about it......... the winner of Ibragimov-Chagaev.:good

Brewster, who he just beat, was his current IBF mandatory, so now he's free to fight a voluntary or two.

I think the push towards complete unification may be gaining steem, after this win.

joeboxer
07-07-2007, 06:49 PM
ug...according to cnnsi...Wlad just beat Raymond Brewster. does anyone even follow boxing there?
I'd like to see Wlad vs. the winner of Ibragimov/Chagaev.

koraytyson
07-07-2007, 06:50 PM
Koraytyson. It was along time but Wlad only has to fight a mando once a year.


Wlad can fight his new mando. And be cleared for the next year and half to fight for Unifications.

I do not have a complain about mando's.But I wanted to see that they must change voluntary defence's stipulation.

betman
07-07-2007, 06:57 PM
Brewster, who he just beat, was his current IBF mandatory, so now he's free to fight a voluntary or two.
thanks for the info..that is even worse... how can he be a mando after 14 months without fighting?

lefthook31
07-07-2007, 07:10 PM
I want to see him fight Holyfield. Its a great payday for Wlad and Holy, and I think Holy has what it takes in his heart to try and win. I do think Wlads power will be too much for him though, and if Holy cant make something happen early hes going to get hurt.

Leeroy
07-07-2007, 07:11 PM
Give him an inbetween tuneup, then fight the winner of Ibragimov-Chagaev.

No mate,he just fought a tuneup fight.

paulfv
07-07-2007, 07:12 PM
Time for Corrie Sanders. Brewster is defeated, Purity is retired. That leaves only Sanders. After that (and if he wins), he can do whatever he wants.

thewoo
07-07-2007, 07:13 PM
my list: 1) Toney 2) Briggs 3) Holyfield 4) Rahman 5) C Sanders 6) McCall 7) Haye 8) Peter 9) TOS 10) JC Gomez

You must really hate Toney

Heavyrighthand
07-07-2007, 07:15 PM
thanks for the info..that is even worse... how can he be a mando after 14 months without fighting?

Brewster was probably named mandatory because there are so few mandatories to choose from,seeing as how the four different orgs avoid stepping on each other's toes.

Sundance
07-07-2007, 07:25 PM
Vitali is going to have the WBC belt so that avenue is closed.

NBT
07-07-2007, 07:26 PM
Obviously the Chagaev/Ibragimov winner. But since this fight is scheduled for October he should take a fight inbetween, I don't want to see Wladdy out of the ring for 6 months or more when he is in his prime right now, he shouldn't waste time. Get Rahman or Valuev.

Beatboxer
07-07-2007, 07:28 PM
Chagaev

he has the best shot at beating him

Stinky gloves
07-07-2007, 07:38 PM
He cannot fight winner of Maskayev/Peter next because this spot is
reserved for Vitaly. Ibragimov/Chagayev is in October so they wouldn't be
ready for next big fight before January.

This leaves 6 months for Wlad and he for sure may fight someone in the October.
I think he may consider someone from the: Holyfield, Valuev, Liakhovich, Golota, Rahman
or IBF will assign him a mandatory challenger which may be .... Byrd or Brock.
He may seriously think also about next shot for Sanders .. that would be cool.

Odo
07-07-2007, 07:45 PM
I dont want to watch Wlad take on Americans like Rahman,Hollyfield,and so on.Bring on real fighters from Russia or Ukraine!
Wlad vs Virchis would be a true thriller!
There are so many fresh faces from the countries of the former soviet union.There is no need to fight another one of those lame Americans!

Irish_Southpaw6
07-07-2007, 08:08 PM
1) Unification 2) Holyfield 3) Valuev

Sundance
07-07-2007, 08:13 PM
Holyfield is the obvious fight. Holyfield is very very silly to keep on fighting when he has $500m dollars tucked away, but his head will roll.

Marquito_666
07-07-2007, 08:19 PM
I hope he doesn´t fight Holyfield...that would be plain silly.

A peter rematch won´t happen in a while....nor won´t a winner of chagaev/ibragimov....

How about an autumn fight versus Valuev ????

skier47
07-08-2007, 02:00 AM
I dont want to watch Wlad take on Americans like Rahman,Hollyfield,and so on.Bring on real fighters from Russia or Ukraine!
Wlad vs Virchis would be a true thriller!
There are so many fresh faces from the countries of the former soviet union.There is no need to fight another one of those lame Americans!

The American fighters bring the most money to the table, especially a
potential fight with the legendary Evander Holyfield. The reinvigorated
Holyfield with his two-fisted attack and dirty in-fighting skills, especially
the use of his head which messed up both Tyson and Rahman wiil give
Wlad some trouble. The general public will love this fight not just diehard fight fans. Both fighters will make boatloads of money and
both deserve it.

Asterion
07-08-2007, 02:04 AM
Hmmmm...

Plenty of options: Liakhovich, Valuev, Rahman, Virchis, Chagaev/Ibragimov winner, Holyfield.

I think he'll end up fighting Holyfield or the Chag/Iggy winner. If Holyfield fought Holmes and Foreman, why Wlad can't fight Holyfield?

Dekkers
07-08-2007, 02:11 AM
A tune up with Toney or Holy, or a fight with Valuev, followed by the Chagaev Ibragimov winner. After that whoever comes out on top with the whole McCall/Vitali/Peter/Maskaev mess (obviously he won't fight Vitali). Once that's done hopefully some of the contenders would have hopefully stepped up, and have scalps that look decent (Dimitrenko, Virchis, Bidenko, etc), with a tune up here and there.

After that some of the prospects comming up like Povetkin, Haye, Solis will have established themselves in the division. If Wlad can hang in there for a few more years, good comp and ATG status should be very achievable.

Chilli
07-08-2007, 02:16 AM
Liakhovich, Virchis, TOS or Ruiz

Flatlander
07-08-2007, 02:48 AM
Ross Purrity

NBT
07-08-2007, 04:06 AM
I read Wlad's next fight is planed to staged in the USA so he probably won't go for a European fighter, I think. No point in fighting a European in the USA.

Kenny
07-08-2007, 04:30 AM
Regardless of who Holyfield fights, please stop with this b.s., " it will be pain ful to watch, I hope he stops fighting, b.s."....The guy is one of the great est and if 95% of the ASPIRING 25 year old heavyweights out there woke up tomorrow as good as Evander was in his last fight they would be thanking the lord above...... Fact is MOST will never even be that good. So WHY all the sympathy for Evander?

Just treat the guy as if you couldn't see his face and like any other aspiring fighter and lets see what he has.

Evander is fior real, his skill is for real and whether or noty he ever becomes world champ again (I believe he will) he is better TODAY than 95% of the aspiring guys out there 20 years younger.

People in america, stop putting limits on people because of age. While you went and had kids, got a job, sat on your butts for 10 hours a day working and stopped training HE...EVANDER continued training at a top level, never slowed down, never let society dictate when he should stop something and as a result is still very very capable.

In other sports that don't have head trauma I think, as a trainer, one can compete well into there 50's a a high level.

Randy Coture won the championship UFC at 45 or so, The red sox dropped Clemens ten years ago because of old age and he's had his best years ever recently (haha, what a bad move that was), many other major league ball players are wekll into there 40's and some 50 like the first baseman Mets.

Leave Evander alone and simply stop mentioning his age or being worried about him....unless you are goijng to be worried about every 25 year old boxer not close to his skill level.

Klitchko looked awesome tonight and made leaps and bounds improvement. Holyfield was mopre active in his last fight then most heavyweights or anyweight fighter I've seen recently.

Boxing is looking way up, but they must embrace Holyfield the way MMA embraced and embraces Cotoure.... and they must stop with the singing national anthems with fighters in the ring and on tv...do that before the show starts, get the preview going and bring the fighters out to fight...this is what they must do to keep people tuned into boxing....the greatest combat sport, with the greatest skilled fighters in the world.

DanePugilist
07-08-2007, 04:35 AM
I wanna see Wlad fight Vitali.

Sundance
07-08-2007, 05:59 AM
I wanna see Wlad fight Vitali.


Just as well there isnt a third brother eh?:yep Is there a sister? I bet she's a six foot goddess.

SevenSamurai
07-08-2007, 06:22 AM
Either the winner of Chagaev vs. Ibragimov for the WBC strap

or

The winner of Peter vs. Maskaev for the WBA and WBO straps.

Preferably each in turn, and then he becomes the undisputed heavyweight champion.

I think Chagaev would take the challenge if he won. I think that the Peter/Maskaev winner would want an easy defence first before putting it on the line.

justaboxingfan
07-08-2007, 06:54 AM
I don't see anyone who would be 'worthy' of fighting Wlad other than the belt holders just look at the top 20 HW today, no one comes close. Go ahead and pick a name, its not even funny. Wlad right now needs to fight a unifcation, no need to 'hurt' anyone unnessesarily:beat :deal

Mendoza
07-08-2007, 07:16 AM
Give him an inbetween tuneup, then fight the winner of Ibragimov-Chagaev.

Sanders or Purity would be a fine tune up.

0-1
07-08-2007, 10:16 AM
I wouldn't want him to bother with Rahman, unless Rahman could come out the winner of the Rahman-McCall match I'd love to see, although that would maybe be the more appropriate for Vitali: the only two guys who got lucky enough to beat Lewis, and the one who almost beat him but got unlucky...

RUSKULL
07-08-2007, 10:23 AM
I don't see the point of a tune up. Go straight for unification.

Agreed. Unification is at hand! The only problem is he'd have to wait around for the winner of Ruslan vs. Sultan and that may be too long a wait. Maybe he can fight either Holyfield or Sanders while he waits..................

Muchmoore
07-08-2007, 10:24 AM
Who next do you want see against Wladimir?

I'd like a unification bout.

RUSKULL
07-08-2007, 10:26 AM
HE has WBO belt right? Isnt that the shittiest belt?

IBF - Wladimir
WBC - Maskaev
WBA -Chagaev
WBO - Ibragimov

Vincent Gottschalk
07-08-2007, 10:27 AM
Wladimir should fight John Ruiz next:yep

T.S.
07-08-2007, 10:38 AM
I would love to watch him beat James Toney into the canvas but I'm sure James Phony would test positve for steroids on purpose and get suspended to avoid Wlad in the ring.

RUSKULL
07-08-2007, 10:38 AM
I second Valuev, not sure what it would prove, but why the fuck not?

I 2nd that option. I like to see records broken & I think that fight would put the 2 biggest or at least tallest fighters that ever fought in the ring.

lillarry
07-08-2007, 10:39 AM
A rematch with Peter would be huge. Both guys have improved significatly

RUSKULL
07-08-2007, 10:40 AM
I would love to watch him beat James Toney into the canvas but I'm sure James Phony would test positve for steroids on purpose and get suspended to avoid Wlad in the ring.

Probably true.

Big Charlie
07-08-2007, 01:58 PM
Ijust want him to unify, get rid of Don King's Boys!!!

PATSYS
07-08-2007, 02:01 PM
Anybody with any of the HW belts.

Big Charlie
07-08-2007, 02:07 PM
Yea, Value would definantly be good, I wonder how it would sound in the arena, timber!!!!!

Alcaldemb
07-08-2007, 02:08 PM
The winner of Chagaev vs Ibragimov, easily the most important fight out there by far at heavyweight. Even if Peter beats Maskaev his biggest wins are over a 38 year old shot former middleweight in Toney and a 38 year old Maskaev who has been KO'd five times. If Ruslan beats Ibragimov in his last five fights he would have beat Virchis, Sprott, Ruiz, Valuev and Ibragimov. Three titleholders, one undefeated power puncher with an iron chin, and a decent fighter in Sprott.

The Kurgan
07-08-2007, 02:10 PM
The only guy who could maybe beat him is his brother. That fight would gross Tysonesque money. Serious fall out required!

Never. Even if Wlad's biggest revenue was added to Vitali's biggest revenue, it probably wouldn't come close to what Tyson earnt against Peter McNeeley. The only cash-machine that came close to Tyson was/is Oscar.

RAMPAGE0017
07-08-2007, 02:10 PM
A fight between Valuev and Klitschko would be interesting.

diamondDave
07-08-2007, 02:12 PM
UNIFICATION!!!! I don't care who it is so long as they have one of the belts.

Odo
07-08-2007, 03:16 PM
The American fighters bring the most money to the table, especially a
potential fight with the legendary Evander Holyfield. The reinvigorated
Holyfield with his two-fisted attack and dirty in-fighting skills, especially
the use of his head which messed up both Tyson and Rahman wiil give
Wlad some trouble. The general public will love this fight not just diehard fight fans. Both fighters will make boatloads of money and
both deserve it.

You are right insasmuch as Hollyfield is still a draw,but the old geezer has no chance to beat Wlad IMO.
Fighters like Virchis,or Chagaev deserve a shot at Wlad,too.
Besides Wlad is the big draw worldwide.He can sell 20,000 tickets within a few hours no matter who he would fight in the ring.

Heavyrighthand
07-08-2007, 04:13 PM
UNIFICATION!!!! I don't care who it is so long as they have one of the belts.

:good

T.S.
07-08-2007, 04:13 PM
If Holy can get fans to buy PPV to see him fight Savarese he could do much better draw with fight against Wlad. I wish boxing had tournaments like tennis instead of being the business it is. If no unification bout is available in the near future a fight with Holy and Wlad makes perfect commercial sense.
This fight is probably already in the works in the minds of both camps.

Rumsfeld
07-08-2007, 04:16 PM
1. Peter (after he beats Oleg)
2. Corrie Sanders (seriously)
3. Ibragimov/Chagaev winner
4. Valuev

That's about all I'm interested in seeing at present moment.

A rematch with Peter is Wlad's biggest challenge. No other fight (except maybe a Sanders rematch) is worth the effort.

spiderricco
07-08-2007, 04:23 PM
Wladimir should fight John Ruiz next:yep

Finally someone has some common sense around here.:happy

T.S.
07-08-2007, 04:33 PM
1. Peter (after he beats Oleg)
2. Corrie Sanders (seriously)
3. Ibragimov/Chagaev winner
4. Valuev

That's about all I'm interested in seeing at present moment.

A rematch with Peter is Wlad's biggest challenge. No other fight (except maybe a Sanders rematch) is worth the effort.

1. I wouldn't bet money on Peter. Oleg is always under-estimated. Did you pick Rahman to beat him? Most people did west of Moscow.

2. Sanders is finshed, after fight with Vitali had nose broken ear drained of blood took serious beating. Much too long a lay off plus age spells no chance for Corrie.

3. Ibragimov/Chagaev Too far off Wlad needs to fight someone before them.

4. Nicolai? That's interesting I can see it happening

claudius brown
07-08-2007, 04:35 PM
after going though all the outstanding HW out there!!:think

he should fight McCall then valuev:verysad

OBCboxer
07-08-2007, 04:38 PM
I think Wlad should fight Holyfield then the winner should fight Ibragimov/Chagev

platnumpapi
07-08-2007, 04:38 PM
wald can beat them all, the pressure style works well aganst wald but the only one who can hit those type of puches and still come forward is sam peter.

i think wald beats him to, but if you need a boxer to pressure wald then you need sam peter.i mean it will be jab jab clinch but oh well.sam is the only guy that has the best chance at beating him, dont mean he will but he has the best chance.

id say wald should fight sam or is big bro after he gets a belt.

papaspank
07-08-2007, 04:51 PM
You know the old saying "Follow the Money", well the money fight would be Holyfield. Then the winner goes for a unification bout. Don't count the old man out. They did before his fight against Tyson, saying he could get killed in the ring, blah blah blah, and he ends up twisting Tysons' ass (twice). The odds when that fight was first annouced started at 25 to 1 for Tyson. So I wonder what they would be with this fight? Don't get me wrong this will be Holyfields biggest challenge, considering he's going on 45 (October). In his prime he'd have little trouble with the big robot.

Mr "T"
07-08-2007, 05:52 PM
How about a rematch wih Brewster? Lamon may be on next time. Right now the score is even: 1 TKO ea.

boxfan78
07-08-2007, 05:57 PM
Top 5 available opponents
1 Nikolai Valuev
2 Juan-Carlos Gomez
3 Oliver McCall
4 Hasim Rahman
5 Sergei Lyakovitch

Backup opponents incase none of the above agree
1 Vladimir Virchis
2 Eddie Chambers
3 Donnel Holmes
4 Chris Arreola
5 Corrie Sanders

Long-shot opponents
1 Tye Fields
2 Malik Scott
3 Jean-Francois Bergeron
4 Michael Moorer
5 Oleg Platov

Personally I'd prefer if he fought Gomez or Valuev. There really isn't any credible fighters left for him to fight outside the titleholders which are all tied up until at least next year. The up and coming european and american heavyweights are still unproven and none of them besides Povetkin has really done anything to separate themselfs from the rest.

Heavyrighthand
07-08-2007, 06:40 PM
Top 5 available opponents
1 Nikolai Valuev
2 Juan-Carlos Gomez
3 Oliver McCall
4 Hasim Rahman
5 Sergei Lyakovitch

Backup opponents incase none of the above agree
1 Vladimir Virchis
2 Eddie Chambers
3 Donnel Holmes
4 Chris Arreola
5 Corrie Sanders

.

If not another titleholder, he needs to fight someone on a winning streak, especially after Brewster had lost his last fight before fighting Wlad.

1. any other titleholder-but that may not be possible

2. Sanders - would be a good fight for Wlad's career, to avenge another loss

3. Virchis - hard puncher who is a credible opponent, even though he's not a top five, he's one of the best that is available.

4. McCall - his long winning streak and ability to come inshape, even at his age, would make this battle of the ages, a fairly interesting fight.

I don't think Wlad should fight someone as lackluster as Rahman is now, or someone whose just been beaten, like Valuev or Liakhovich. And the others on that first list are not known enough to be seen as a credible fight for Klitshcko.

But if a unification fight can't be put together, Ild most like to see him avenge Sanders, but I think we'll see Wlad fight Vladimir Virchis sometime around November, or so. I can see that happening next, yes.

DoumB
07-08-2007, 06:41 PM
just a fuckin unification.

RDJ
07-08-2007, 07:10 PM
Give him an inbetween tuneup, then fight the winner of Ibragimov-Chagaev.

Skip the tuneup, just feed him the other beltholder first.

Heavyrighthand
07-08-2007, 10:49 PM
According to the new article on the ESB frontpage;

Press conference ended with Wladimir answering a question about his future fight.

"I want to take a short break and then I'll start training for my next fight. Most likely it will take place at the end of this year in the United States. Who will be my next challenger or would it be a unification fight I really can't tell right now. It's too early to talk about this."



I realize they don't know when the next fight will be, or whom will be available, or willing or whatnot...........but, at the end of this year .??????

He's barely making the twice a year pace that Lewis made famous.

It's obvious that he can't get a unification fight next, seeing as how the two available titleholders of the three (Chag and Ibrag) are fighting each other in October, and the next opportunity to fight the Chag Ibrag winner would be early spring, at best, (assuming the winner will agree, which is doubtful).

So that said, you'd think that Klitschkko would see fit to fight someone else by November, or so, as he waits for this new two titleholding champ to be ready. (again, assuming that the Chag Ibrag winner will take the fight, which is very doutful)

So I think we'll see Wlad fight Virchis sometime around December, or so. The chances for a further unification of the Chag Ibrag winner, and Wlad, will still be quite a long way off.

LennoxGOAT
07-08-2007, 10:53 PM
I think Wlad should fight Holyfield. He does not have many options, and he needs to grab as many of the general public as he can. So, Holyfield, Valuev, or Rahman.....and if none of those, beat Sanders' ass.