View Full Version : Time for a Sanders rematch?
RightCross
07-07-2007, 06:42 PM
Corrie is old but still active, he fought as recently as May 2007. Many of the comments ringside from the HBO crew related to how much Wlad admired Lennox and even Wlad was working on that "lennox" uppercut.
Lewis avenged his defeats, Wlad could still do the same.
Corrie was a very dangerous fighter when he was in shape. Fast hands, loads of southpaw power. I am doubtful Corrie can get back into shape but maybe he won't need it. He layed Wlad out last fight early.
Comments?
Rock0052
07-07-2007, 06:49 PM
Chances are, he'll need a stay-busy fight and most top Hw's are already booked for fall fights...it's not a bad idea as long as he takes on the Chagaev-Ibragimov winner after that.
No - Pointless fight. Even if Wlad destroys Sanders in similar fashion. No credit will be given.
RightCross
07-07-2007, 06:55 PM
No - Pointless fight. Even if Wlad destroys Sanders in similar fashion. No credit will be given.
I think most people would agree that the loss to Sanders was not controversial. Corrie laid him out, devastated Wlad, knocked him down numerous times.
Secondly, Corrie has very fast hands and was able to tag Vitaly square with full power a few times early.
I think a win versus Sanders would do more for him than a win over Brewster.
Also, Lennox did avenge his losses and Wlad seems to seriously be mimmicking all that Lennox has done. Same trainer, same fight plans, and Lennox was applauded for avenging his losses.
RAMPAGE0017
07-07-2007, 06:58 PM
It would do good for him in the sense of " Okay, he avenged another loss ", but at this point I don't think that loss hangs over his head any more. Even though Sanders beat Wladimir more soundly, the embarassing loss to Brewster over-shadowed that. And plus, Sanders is too old.. maybe to the casual public it will mean something that Wlad avenged that loss, but to me it'll just be.. " Eh, okay, he finally avenged this loss, let's move on now ".
And plus, Vitali already avenged the loss for him.
Heavyrighthand
07-07-2007, 07:03 PM
No - Pointless fight. Even if Wlad destroys Sanders in similar fashion. No credit will be given.
Think about who's out there........
We are running out of fighters for Wlad to beat the hell out of, and if a title unification is not available, Wlad further redeeming himself and his losses would be the best fight to take. Even at his age, Sanders would still be seen as a credible opponent, given his destruction of Wlad a few years back. Avenging that loss would be Wlad's best move, next, but only if no unification can be made. :good :good
Rock0052
07-07-2007, 07:03 PM
My main reason for suggesting it, is this:
Who on earth is available to fight in the fall that'd make more sense than that? Sanders isn't the best choice if everyone were available...but most guys already have their fights set. There's nothing that can be done on the unification front until early spring or late winter, most likely, and I'd like to see Wlad get in one more fight in 07.
shelterr
07-07-2007, 07:04 PM
If he cant get any other titleists why the fuck not? As a stay busy fight of course. Now if he could only fight Ross Purity again...lol
Think about who's out there........
We are running out of fighters for Wlad to beat the hell out of, and if a title unification is not available, Wlad further redeeming himself and his losses would be the best fight to take. Even at his age, Sanders would still be seen as a credible opponent, given his destruction of Wlad a few years back. Avenging that loss would be Wlad's best move, next, but only if no unification can be made. :good :good'
Thats true. I'd give credit to Wlad because Sanders would come out winging shots and Wlad would have to just survive the beginning and then begin beating on him like his brother did.
RAMPAGE0017
07-07-2007, 07:06 PM
Sanders wouldn't even get in shape for his fight with Vitali, which was arguably the biggest fight of his career. He'll be hard-pressed to get into shape for a fight with Wladimir.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
07-07-2007, 07:06 PM
Only if Corrie beats some credible opponents. I don't even think the IBF would sanction a fight with Corrie Sanders right now. The person has to be ranked in the top 15 of their rankings.
Jose FM
07-07-2007, 07:07 PM
pointless fight...
Sundance
07-07-2007, 07:08 PM
Sanders couldnt do worse than Bewster. And don't forget, people are touting Michael Sprott for a title shot. Sanders wiped out Sprott.
RightCross
07-07-2007, 07:13 PM
Only if Corrie beats some credible opponents. I don't even think the IBF would sanction a fight with Corrie Sanders right now. The person has to be ranked in the top 15 of their rankings.
Didn't manfredo get into the top 10 for w fight with JC? I think Manfredo had 1 fight at 168 before that!
The IBF could easily put Corrie into the top 15.
Heavyrighthand
07-07-2007, 07:20 PM
Only if Corrie beats some credible opponents. I don't even think the IBF would sanction a fight with Corrie Sanders right now. The person has to be ranked in the top 15 of their rankings.
You may be right, but I'm not aware of that rule. But, I didn't know, either way.
But if that is correct and they won't allow a fight unless the opponent is top 15, I bet one win against someone known would suddenlyl propel Sanders into the top 15, if they knew a big money Sanders Wlad rematch would result.
Money, or the potentail to make it, is very influential with these sanctioning bodies. :good
RightCross
07-07-2007, 07:22 PM
You may be right, but I'm not aware of that rule. But, I didn't know, either way.
But if that is correct and they won't allow a fight unless the opponent is top 15, I bet one win against someone known would suddenlyl propel Sanders into the top 15, if they knew a big money Sanders Wlad rematch would result.
Money, or the potentail to make it, is very influential with these sanctioning bodies. :good
Not only is it influential it seems to be fairly common. If a sanctioning body is expecting their fees and recognition they will make it happen.
achillesthegreat
07-07-2007, 07:24 PM
Definitely make the fight. Wlad can have it for his next optional defence. Sanders has three average wins since the Vitali loss. His last was just two months ago. Sanders will always be talented but fat.
Wlad should really look to fight the WBO/WBA winner and then make another optional defence. He can forget the WBC because his bro wants that.
Not really, the timeslot for a meaningful rematch against Sanders has passed. Sanders isn't even ranked by the IBF, so they would have to make it a non-title affair.
Armo_Ruski
07-07-2007, 08:14 PM
wlad should fight virchis, liahovich or valuev
barneyrub
07-07-2007, 08:15 PM
Corrie is old but still active, he fought as recently as May 2007. Many of the comments ringside from the HBO crew related to how much Wlad admired Lennox and even Wlad was working on that "lennox" uppercut.
Lewis avenged his defeats, Wlad could still do the same.
Corrie was a very dangerous fighter when he was in shape. Fast hands, loads of southpaw power. I am doubtful Corrie can get back into shape but maybe he won't need it. He layed Wlad out last fight early.
Comments?Rididculous, Sanders is far too old and inactive to be a viable oponnent, especially to qualify for a title shot. Beating guys once they have lost, been severley injured, or inactive really doesnt avenge the previous loss several years before. Why not get Purrity in the ring then, its just nonsense to even consider such fights today.
barneyrub
07-07-2007, 08:16 PM
Not really, the timeslot for a meaningful rematch against Sanders has passed. Sanders isn't even ranked by the IBF, so they would have to make it a non-title affair.as the timeslot for a meaningful Brewster fight passed over a year ago when he was injured and lost.
Sheeit y'all think Brewster was damaged goods Vitali beat Sanders face in soooo bad! Broke his nose sent him to the emergency room had blood drained from ear had Holy Sht beaten out of him took bad bad beating.
He'll never be a top level heavy again.
barneyrub
07-07-2007, 08:20 PM
I think most people would agree that the loss to Sanders was not controversial. Corrie laid him out, devastated Wlad, knocked him down numerous times.
Secondly, Corrie has very fast hands and was able to tag Vitaly square with full power a few times early.
I think a win versus Sanders would do more for him than a win over Brewster.
Also, Lennox did avenge his losses and Wlad seems to seriously be mimmicking all that Lennox has done. Same trainer, same fight plans, and Lennox was applauded for avenging his losses.He didnt wait years and for the guys to be finishe dbefore seeking thos erematches, he wanted them immediatley. The mcall one was kept from him for 3 years because Don King froze him out of the pictureeven when Lewis was number one contender again for the title.
Sweden
07-07-2007, 08:28 PM
Only if Corrie beats some credible opponents. I don't even think the IBF would sanction a fight with Corrie Sanders right now. The person has to be ranked in the top 15 of their rankings.
I agree, efter a big win for Sanders it would make some sense. But my God, what if Klitschko would lose? Sanders, champion at 42!!!
RightCross
07-07-2007, 08:28 PM
He didnt wait years and for the guys to be finishe dbefore seeking thos erematches, he wanted them immediatley. The mcall one was kept from him for 3 years because Don King froze him out of the pictureeven when Lewis was number one contender again for the title.
Valid points and I won't disagree with you here. Wlad seemed to need "rebuilding" more than Lewis ever did. Presumably, Wlad is rebuilt now. So now Wlad has the opportunity and can make these "avenges".
Whether or not Corrie can come in shape and have the stamina to go the distance I do not believe is the question.
The question for me is, can Corrie come in with enough handspeed and power to flurry madly like he did in the first 3 rounds of his big fights to seriously test wlad's chin?
The last thing to go with a fighter is power, is the speed there? Probably not but for 3 rounds this fight might be wildly entertaining.
RightCross
07-07-2007, 08:31 PM
We can throw sanders into this mix with no problem at all IMO.
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jmastersherm1
07-07-2007, 09:30 PM
Corrie has looked good in his 3 fights since losing to Vitali. The problem is that he nay have broken his hand against Bispo and had to cancel his June 23rd fight. Despite severly damaging his punching hand, he went 10 rounds (winning every one) and won basically one-handed. Unlike Brewster, Sanders would show a lot of heart, and I doubt Wlad could floor him. Unless he pulled a Brewster and fought just to collect one last pay check, Sanders would be a dangerous opponent. Wlad would have nothing to gain and everything to lose.
ironchamp
07-07-2007, 09:56 PM
A Sanders fight would only help Wlad redeem a blemish on his record but for the future of the division it is not only pointless but is also unfair to more deserving challengers.
Sanders doesnt have a marquee name to get an unwarranted title shot and at his age retirement is around the corner.
joeboxer
07-07-2007, 10:03 PM
My main reason for suggesting it, is this:
Who on earth is available to fight in the fall that'd make more sense than that? Sanders isn't the best choice if everyone were available...but most guys already have their fights set. There's nothing that can be done on the unification front until early spring or late winter, most likely, and I'd like to see Wlad get in one more fight in 07.Sanders messed up his hand in his last fight. I think he is out of commision for awhile. Honestly I'd rather see a unification bout vs. the winner of Chagaev/Ibragimov. Their fight is Oct 13, so it could be scheduled right after the new year. only a 5 month layoff so why bother with an optional defense.
rekcutnevets
07-07-2007, 10:11 PM
The Sanders rematch would be interesting in one regard. Does Wladimir have an answer for Corey's staight left? That is about all, but I'm interested in knowing.
If he beats Sanders, fine. Sanders is older. I just want to see if Sanders can land his left with regularity.
I really wish Klitschko would fight someone like Chagaev next, but after a fight like that; Sanders would be acceptable.
BobDigi5060
07-07-2007, 10:21 PM
Older brother Vitali already wipped his ass clean from that loss so a win at this point loses its value.
Suge Green
07-07-2007, 10:25 PM
I have no problem with KLIT wasting a year of his prime to fight bums and golfers, as long as he continues to admit he's not the true champ...:smoke
RAMPAGE0017
07-07-2007, 10:29 PM
The Sanders who beat Wladimir would give Wlad problems at any point in his career. Let's keep in mind that Sanders was a big guy who didn't have to work very hard to get in range to land effectively on him, so Wlad wouldn't even have a great advantage in size. Sanders had pretty much every tool necessary to beat Wlad.. size, speed, power.
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