Klitschko's Knockout Power (vs. Iron Mike)

[Madison]

Can't say he doesn't have a wee bit of power...

W. Klitschko: W 49 (44 KOs) | L 3 | D 0
Mike Tyson: W 50 (44 KOs) | L 6 | D 0

[lefthook31]

I think it shows how hard Tyson really punched more. Wlad is a giant compared to the 5'10 inch Tyson, who really was about 218 at the tip of his punching power not 248

[eze]

Wlad hits harder then Tyson.

Tyson did hit fucking hard though but he did it with combos.

[achillesthegreat]

Wlad is one of the heaviest punchers in history. His record speaks for itself.

[Marquito_666]

Wlad is one of the heaviest punchers in history. His record speaks for itself.

co sign !!! :good

[Rock0052]

f he gets a stoppage in his next fight, he'll have a 90% KO rate.

[RDJ]

Wlads straight right is scary. So is his left hook, too bad he doesn't use it as much as he used to.

[Metal Man]

Different sort of power really.Tyson generated lots of power through speed,his low centre of gravity enabled him to put insane amount of torque into his punches especially with the uppercut[Bruno fight 1,2],more than any other heavy in history.Vlad's power particularly with the jab and right hand emanates from his raw athletiscm and huge physical dimensions 6'7 250.Comparing Tyson and Vlad is similar to comparing Tyson and Foreman,your hard pressed to come up with and answer.One things for sure though,they can both knock the head off a mule.

[barneyrub]

Can't say he doesn't have a wee bit of power...

W. Klitschko: W 49 (44 KOs) | L 3 | D 0
Mike Tyson: W 50 (44 KOs) | L 6 | D 0Freddie Roach and Tommy Brooks both trained Tyson and Wlad and held pads that they hit. Both say that Wlad punches harder.

[Fighting Weight]

Freddie Roach and Tommy Brooks both trained Tyson and Wlad and held pads that they hit. Both say that Wlad punches harder.

With one shot I'd say there are dozens of heavies who hit harder than Tyson....difference is Tyson hit more often, and had insane power in both hands and with practically every shot he threw.

Yeah WALDO, Lewis, Ruddock, Bruno and lots of others hit harder with their honey punch but for Tyson pretty much everything was a honey punch when he was at his peak.

[Muchmoore]

Can't say he doesn't have a wee bit of power...

W. Klitschko: W 49 (44 KOs) | L 3 | D 0
Mike Tyson: W 50 (44 KOs) | L 6 | D 0

The Mcneeley bout doesnt count as a ko though, it should be 45 knockouts. Plus more guys were terrified of him and just clinched and ran than against Wlad.
Wlad hits VERY hard though and I would rank his power top ten of all time.

[CASH_718]

Can't say he doesn't have a wee bit of power...

W. Klitschko: W 49 (44 KOs) | L 3 | D 0
Mike Tyson: W 50 (44 KOs) | L 6 | D 0Tyson's oppostion was so much better then Klitschko's. Tyson hit harder he was a freak.

[eze]

Tyson's oppostion was so much better then Klitschko's. Tyson hit harder he was a freak.


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[EpsilonAxis]

They are both huge punchers.

But Tyson was more a precision combination puncher. Guys just couldnt handle his hard punches with the speed they had.

Wlad may hit harder but I think they were both equally effective punchers. If not, the edge may go to Tyson.

But Wlad's punches push through your guard...

[brooklyn1550]

Tyson hit harder, but Wladimir is a massive puncher as well

[acb]

TYSON!

Tyson had double fisted power and his punches had power from all angles. Vlad has a great right hand and left hook, but he has to really set it up. Tyson could launch from anywhere and finish his man. Body, head, all levels he could execute.

[andyZOR]

Vitali hit's harder than both. Discussion ended :)

Agreed. :D

[Mark D.]

:lol: WHy has it become the in thing to say Tyson didn't have one punch power? That is SO fucking stupid. Tyson had more power than Wlad, and he had awesome one punch power as well, as he proved more than once. Stop repeating this bullshit that you hear.

I agree.

[brooklyn1550]

Vitali hit's harder than both. Discussion ended :)

Nah

[Heavyrighthand]

I think Tyson was so effective, not only for his ferocious, raw power, but for his fast hands, and great ability to deliver that power.

If you compare just pure, raw punching power, someone like, say, Vinnie Maddelone (just an example, nothing more) may have as much pure, raw punching power as Tyson, but he couldn't deliver it as Tyson could, so therefore, he's not perceived to be nearly as powerful as Tyson was.

But skill and deliverability aside, there were probably many heavies who had power equal with Tyson. But they couldn't deliver the bomb, as Tyson could.

[guillermojm]

i think tyson would have wiped the floor with all the current champs.....

i have never seen anyone but tyson lift a guy straight up off the floor with an upercut

[hobgoblin]

i think tyson would have wiped the floor with all the current champs.....

i have never seen anyone but tyson lift a guy straight up off the floor with an upercut

point taken but don't forget george foreman against joe fraizer.

[guillermojm]

your right foreman did hit like a freaking mule!!!!! would have been a great fight to see them both go at it

[boxingcar]

i think tyson would have wiped the floor with all the current champs.....

i have never seen anyone but tyson lift a guy straight up off the floor with an upercut

Tyson couldn't beat McBride (bum)
Tyson couldn't beat Douglas (nothing special by today's standards)
Tyson couldn't beat Lennox
Tyson got clearly outboxed by Botha for 5 total rounds

Prime Tyson couldn't KO Tillis (a bum by today's standards)
Prime Tyson couldn't KO Green (see above)
Prime Tyson couldn't KO Smith either (C level at best)
Prime Tyson lost against douglas (legit loss)

Tyson used to look scary and always used to do a tremendous job at beating cans. Whenever a fighter wasn't scared of him...He'd get super frustrated...(see his fight vs Holyfield for a classical example or against Douglas).

Tyson is like a religion. And everyone ate it up. the media did a fantastic job. Still to this day...everyone is going ape shit about his "power".
(even though Guys like Sam Peter , Tua , Foreman , Shavers were all more powerful).

He's been called champion of the world and yet most of his competition was 90 or 95% vs US fighters. (once again , the media did a fantastic job , Tyson is probably one of the most hyped fighter in boxing history).

A demi god to his fans.
And yes , Tyson was a tremendous athlete...
Only His competition wasn't good at all...he was fighting in a shitty era too. But no one talks about this cause He was american.

and people are all clearly pro american and the reason why the HW division is not as huge as it used to be is because americans are not dominating anymore.
The problem is that today's division is finally...international. (unlike in the mid 90's , 80's , 70's , 60's , 50's etc....)

Tyson was a fantastic fighter. But he still was human.

[Boxfan1]

It's a height matter really. Tyson was short, so he threw a short man's punches. Short hooks, and uppercuts. Tyson rarely threw straight punches, and when he did, they were not of KO power. Wlad is a tall and large man. He can't get in your chest or throw short hooks to the liver, chin and ears like Tyson could because of the space required to do so. However, Wlads straight punches (jab and right cross) are the hardest since Lennox and Larry Holmes. Different punches from different people. Now, if you want to compare left hooks, I'd say that they are about equal in power delivered, but again keep in mind Tyson would throw his while literally in the chest of his opponents, and Wlad throws his from a relatively long distance.

[Stimulant]

Tyson's oppostion was so much better then Klitschko's. Tyson hit harder he was a freak.

Ummmm..

[oblate]

i think tyson would have wiped the floor with all the current champs.....

i have never seen anyone but tyson lift a guy straight up off the floor with an upercut
guess that means buster douglas would beat all the champs with one arm then :lol:

[hobgoblin]

Tyson rarely threw straight punches, and when he did, they were not of KO power
:patsch

wlad fans just need to get past the delusional phase. forget tyson, there are guys saying how wlad would beat ali & foreman. 15 years later you'll realize what wlad really was. i had a similar case with mike tyson - now i see him in more objective light. he may not be ali or marciano - but he was a hell of a lot better than wladdy. better puncher too - look at the rankings

i define KO power as something that will KO a typical fighter (not some granite chinned freak like evander holyfield or vitali). with this measure, tyson landed KO shots on...

1. watch first round of holy tyson 1. LOTS of STRAIGHT BOMBS. Hell, just watch first 5 seconds. decaptitate wlad!
2. tyson v holmes (again, holmes had a good chin).
3. tyson vs botha
4. tyson v spinks (finishing blow was a straight right)
5. tyson v jack johnson (straight right)
6. tyson v golota (KD blow was a straight right - damaged golota's cheek bone, vertebrae in spine, golota had to leave the fight for medical reasons).

what in hel are you talking about?

[Boxfan1]

What the hell are you talking about? I'm looking at both men objectively. Tyson rarely threw straight punches. Go back and look at his fights and ko's. He would attack the body with nasty hooks to the hips and liver then combo his way upstairs until he could get his opponents with his coup de grace combo. The left uppercut followed by the right hook or visa versa. Tyson loved that combo and used it frequently. As for my description of Wlads punching style, I dare you to prove me wrong on my analysis.

[hobgoblin]

guess that means buster douglas would beat all the champs with one arm then :lol:

buster douglas was actually the UNDISPUTED HW CHAMPION of the world. not something wlad can say. douglas actually beat a A grade puncher / fighter in Mike Tyson - who did Wlad ever beat?

[Butch Coolidge]

Tyson's oppostion was so much better then Klitschko's. Tyson hit harder he was a freak.

I don't think so. :bart

[brooklyn1550]

Ummmm..

TYSON - Larry Holmes, Michael Spinks, Tony Tucker, James Smith, Trevor Berbick, Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tubbs, Carl Williams, Razor Ruddock, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, Buster Douglas, Francois Botha, Frank Bruno

KLITSCHKO - Chris Byrd, Ray Mercer, DaVarryl Williamson, Lamon Brewster, Samuel Peter, Corrie Sanders, Calvin Brock, Ray Austin, Monte Barrett, Charles Shufford, David Bostice, Ross Puritty

I think Tyson fought the better fighters

[Martini643]

Tyson uses punch combos in 2 second flurries to get the results that wlad does in a single punch


Wlad punches harder

[gold_gloves]

Ridicloulous thread....Tyson hits fucking harder, i have no doubts..