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pavlik fan
01-30-2008, 06:40 PM
to see kellys training video go to [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) /pavlik...then click on training

mrplow182
01-30-2008, 06:46 PM
Power will only get this guy so far........

brooklyn1550
01-30-2008, 06:49 PM
Power will only get this guy so far........

True, power will only get fighters so far. But Pavlik doesn't just rely on power; he employs intelligent strategies, keeps up a high workrate, works behind the jab, and places his punches nicely.

mrplow182
01-30-2008, 06:53 PM
To be fair his jab looked nice in the Taylor scrap....but lets not forget he was put on his butt so he needs to work on defence if anything....then he would be pretty darn formidable

brooklyn1550
01-30-2008, 06:55 PM
To be fair his jab looked nice in the Taylor scrap....but lets not forget he was put on his butt so he needs to work on defence if anything....then he would be pretty darn formidable

Agreed

His defense is his biggest flaw. I'd like to see more head movement since he tends to stand very upright with his head as a stationary target.

mrplow182
01-30-2008, 06:58 PM
Plus he should defintiely go straight up to 168 win lose or draw against Taylor....there are so many showcase fights up there in Super Middle.....I for one would love to see Kessler vs Pavlik.....I honestly don't know who hits harder and both are stand up straight line fighters with speed and power

TroubleLurks
01-30-2008, 06:58 PM
His defense is fine.

mrplow182
01-30-2008, 07:01 PM
Yeah.....but can he defend his title enough times to be called a great fighter, or will he be remembered as a huge punching MW that was champ for a year or two?

brooklyn1550
01-30-2008, 07:06 PM
Plus he should defintiely go straight up to 168 win lose or draw against Taylor....there are so many showcase fights up there in Super Middle.....I for one would love to see Kessler vs Pavlik.....I honestly don't know who hits harder and both are stand up straight line fighters with speed and power

I'd take Kessler over Pavlik by knockout. Pavlik probably hits harder, but he lacks the timing, speed, and accuracy of Kessler. I see Pavlik getting controlled at a distance with the jab and getting hit with clean, precise right hands.

Calzaghe would beat him too. Like he did against Kessler, Joe would take away Pavlik's jab and right hand. He'd get him from the outside and he could get the better of him on the inside. Too much skill, speed, and angles for Kelly to overcome.

Personally, despite the lack of huge fights at 160, I'd like to see him stay there and try to establish a legacy. Abraham, Sturm, Wright, Duddy, Mora, and Lee would all be good fights for him. I don't think he's ready for the best at 168.

mrplow182
01-30-2008, 07:15 PM
The trouble with fighting Sturm or Abraham is the fact that if Pavlik's promoters are outbid on the purse by German promoters then he might have to fight over in Europe and unless he was to KO them then there is always that chance of a bad decision

JETSKI
01-30-2008, 07:20 PM
Power will only get this guy so far........

And slapping will get your guy in the grave eventually.

mrplow182
01-30-2008, 07:21 PM
17 years undefeated buddy......36 and beat a prime Kessler........this isn't about Joe Cal anyways......

RealIzm
01-30-2008, 07:24 PM
Damn...Taylors in for another beatdown.....
Jack Leow made an interesting point of how well Kelly Pavlik is in Taylors head
Taylor going back to the trainer that gave him all the bad habits.....I have a feeling Taylor is about to contract Lacy's disease

JETSKI
01-30-2008, 07:26 PM
17 years undefeated buddy......36 and beat a prime Kessler........this isn't about Joe Cal anyways......

Fighting Euro-Bums. Kessler not included.

I don't wanna argue. Joe C & Kelly will probably never meet. But until if & when they do, after its over, one of us will be saying "I told you so".

mrplow182
01-30-2008, 07:27 PM
Taylor is better than Lacy though to be fair......Joe Calzaghe exposed Lacy but Pavlik didn't expose Taylor so much as he just simply knocked him out lol.....but that is definitely a key factor in this fight cos the first fight will be stuck in Jermain's head for sure

JETSKI
01-30-2008, 07:30 PM
Taylor, because of the loss, has a major mountain to climb.

I think Pavlik may brutalize him worse than in the 1st fight, if thats possible.

mrplow182
01-30-2008, 07:30 PM
Fighting Euro-Bums. Kessler not included.

I don't wanna argue. Joe C & Kelly will probably never meet. But until if & when they do, after its over, one of us will be saying "I told you so".
In his 10 year reign he beat 7 Americans, an Australian, a Paraguayan, an Egyptian, a Kenyan and five British guys ( including Chris Eubank)....and these other Euro Bums you mention were either other belt holders or mandatories that every boxer has to fight to keep his belt.....such as Veit who was like 6 feet 5 or something, but he only fough 3 europeans in WBO title defences so why people assume Joe fought Euro bums is beyond me

And I like Pavlik anyway......but Joe simply outclasses him unless he gets knocked out which nobody has done up to yet

marauder1999
01-30-2008, 07:45 PM
In his 10 year reign he beat 7 Americans, an Australian, a Paraguayan, an Egyptian, a Kenyan and five British guys ( including Chris Eubank)....and these other Euro Bums you mention were either other belt holders or mandatories that every boxer has to fight to keep his belt.....such as Veit who was like 6 feet 5 or something, but he only fough 3 europeans in WBO title defences so why people assume Joe fought Euro bums is beyond me

And I like Pavlik anyway......but Joe simply outclasses him unless he gets knocked out which nobody has done up to yet

Why does joe have to brought up every fucking time? Give pavlik his props. Hes the Champ. By constantly comparing all it does is make you look like a damn nuthugger.

mrplow182
01-30-2008, 07:49 PM
The guy before bought it up dude......gotta set the record straight when punks diss a legitimate non-US legend......

Pavlik is limited end of story.

Taylor UD or early KO.....its better for boxing that the better fighter wins in this fight....Jermain is classy and has to win....

JETSKI
01-30-2008, 07:50 PM
In his 10 year reign he beat 7 Americans, an Australian, a Paraguayan, an Egyptian, a Kenyan and five British guys ( including Chris Eubank)....and these other Euro Bums you mention were either other belt holders or mandatories that every boxer has to fight to keep his belt.....such as Veit who was like 6 feet 5 or something

And I like Pavlik anyway......but Joe simply outclasses him unless he gets knocked out which nobody has done up to yet

Joe's been on his arse before & KP would put him there again. He has nothing to hurt Pavlik with as far as KO power & should Pavlik find his mark & he somehow always (90%+) does, he'll finish him.

I simply don't understand how you Calzaghe fans think he would beat Kelly.

Anyway, answer me this if you care to. I remember coming to this forum & hearing all kinds of negative stuff about Joe & ALL of it was coming from guys in the UK & Europe. Can't remember the specifics, but he was really being slammed. Then he beats an overrated Jeff Lacey & is immediately on everyones P4P list. Thats what I'll remember about JC's legacy.

JETSKI
01-30-2008, 07:53 PM
The guy before bought it up dude......gotta set the record straight when punks diss a legitimate non-US legend......

Pavlik is limited end of story.

Taylor UD or early KO.....its better for boxing that the better fighter wins in this fight....Jermain is classy and has to win....

Oh really now? A minute ago you said you liked Kelly. Now he's no good for boxing?

Good bye.

mrplow182
01-30-2008, 07:55 PM
Yeah he was never that popular until very recently over in the UK......when he fought his early defences against other Brits e.g Starrie and Thronberry he was booed during his entrance and people didnt like his style.........but some people have watched him through the majority of his career and I happen to think that all the Lacy win did was practically introduce him to US fans cos he'd never been on TV.....if I hadnt seen someone on TV before and then heard he was a p4p top tenner I'd be sceptical too....however nobody has exposed him as of yet have they??

and yeah salem and mitchell put him on his butt but he won both times...we all know a wounded animal is dangerous and Joe goes toe to toe with anyone...even massive hitters like Kessler or Pavlik dont scare him

mrplow182
01-30-2008, 07:56 PM
I said its better for boxing that Taylor wins....you read into that what you like.....

And yeah i like Pavlik but I prefer Taylor....

JETSKI
01-30-2008, 07:56 PM
Why does joe have to brought up every fucking time? Give pavlik his props. Hes the Champ. By constantly comparing all it does is make you look like a damn nuthugger.

He's right. I brought up the Calzaghe name. Seeing that guys avatar & just knowing he thinks JC would slap around Kelly makes me sick.

I'l try to contain myself in the future. No sense wasting more time on another guy KP would simply KO.

:good

mrplow182
01-30-2008, 08:02 PM
dream on buddy......JC owns Pavlik

marauder1999
01-30-2008, 08:03 PM
I said its better for boxing that Taylor wins....you read into that what you like.....

And yeah i like Pavlik but I prefer Taylor....


By saying that you must be on HBO's payroll because they are the only ones who loved him so much that they gave him so many "gift" decisions. So a guy named Pavlik comes in and destroys him and Taylor,"Gift Intentions" is still better for the sport. Hmm. Interesting. To each his own though. :good

mrplow182
01-30-2008, 08:14 PM
So you honestly think that Taylor has less skill and ability than Pavlik???

And I meant that its good for boxing in the sense that the champions should be the best boxers in the world.....

Beebs
01-30-2008, 08:22 PM
Power will only get this guy so far........

To the undisputed Middleweight Championship of the world?


Only so far though....idiot.

mrplow182
01-30-2008, 08:23 PM
he isnt undisputed........he hasnt beaten anyone world class other than taylor.....you no nothing biassed bum

mrplow182
01-30-2008, 08:25 PM
lets see some longevity from this one hit wonder before you even compare him to JC.....losers

marauder1999
01-30-2008, 08:32 PM
lets see some longevity from this one hit wonder before you even compare him to JC.....losers

Haha--ok. Sounds to me like you are still feeling Taylors beating. Im sorry to say but its about to happen again in 2 weeks. :D

mrplow182
01-30-2008, 08:35 PM
haha i like pavlik!! just prefer boxers to punchers thats all!! if pavlik is still champ in 2-3 years then ill be satisfied that he's as good as people say....cos lets face it the 160 is not star studded

kirk
01-30-2008, 08:35 PM
Wow... his speed is looking better going off that video, very very nice...

D.Will
01-30-2008, 08:40 PM
nice video...i really like this guy...i think he defense is good...not great but good...his offense leaves him open at times but other than that he's okay

that being said i hope he gets knocked out in a couple weeks...if it wasnt for me being a JT fan i would bettin on this guy everytime

PowerPuncher
01-30-2008, 08:51 PM
Is he practising hitting a heavy bag with a baseball bat because he was told the only chance he has in the ring with Joe Calazage would be to hit him with a bat?

markbrooklyn
01-30-2008, 09:13 PM
The guy before bought it up dude......gotta set the record straight when punks diss a legitimate non-US legend......

Pavlik is limited end of story.

Taylor UD or early KO.....its better for boxing that the better fighter wins in this fight....Jermain is classy and has to win....

non us legend? lol.. You only mentioned where the fighters he beat were from you didnt mention NAMES.. Lets face it his biggest wins are against Lacy and Kessler. Other then that who did he beat that wasnt past it or even pretty good??

RealIzm
01-30-2008, 09:24 PM
non us legend? lol.. You only mentioned where the fighters he beat were from you didnt mention NAMES.. Lets face it his biggest wins are against Lacy and Kessler. Other then that who did he beat that wasnt past it or even pretty good??Are we still talking about the Cardiff Ice Rink Champion?? Some of you people truly are pathetic...Pavlik accomplished in 07 what Slappy has done his entire career...Only Pavlik wont be content hanging around fighting nobodies for 10 years the way the Cardiff Ice Rink Champ has...fucking idiots:patsch

TanstA
01-30-2008, 09:28 PM
And I meant that its good for boxing in the sense that the champions should be the best boxers in the world.....

How can you be the best when there is always a boxer people will put ahead of another boxer which you might think is the greatest in the sport.

Pavlik is good for boxing because if it wasn't for him Taylor would've went on to lose to someone else in a UD. Pavlik showed heart and that's what most fans appreciate but how far can heart go? That's why we have contracts.

:patsch

cardstars
01-30-2008, 10:12 PM
Awesome vid thanks! He looks faster to me. Pavlik ko10

albeziel
01-30-2008, 11:01 PM
jab, jab and a straight monstruos right hand all day all night

Hermit
01-30-2008, 11:02 PM
Either he's lost all feeling or his defense is better than people give him credit for. He swears he isn't taking as many punches as people seem to think. ;)

maracho
01-30-2008, 11:50 PM
Looks like Pavlik has a variety of those twitch muscle thingamajiggies giving him Speed, power, and endurance.

the_churn
01-30-2008, 11:51 PM
Are we still talking about the Cardiff Ice Rink Champion?? Some of you people truly are pathetic...Pavlik accomplished in 07 what Slappy has done his entire career...Only Pavlik wont be content hanging around fighting nobodies for 10 years the way the Cardiff Ice Rink Champ has...fucking idiots:patsch

True. Pavlik will be well past shot in 10 years as a result of all of the punches he has chosen to block with his head.

albeziel
01-31-2008, 12:01 AM
man! he better be careful with that baseball bat, don't want to hit his trainer