The Tremendous Travis Simms Express!!!!

[sues2nd]

Who is WITH ME!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[markbrooklyn]

I'm with you!!! Let's go Travis

[brooklyn1550]

I'm with you...Simms by UD

[CASH_718]

Simms UD

[Brickhaus]

I'm on board. Simms undefeated until age catches up with him. Sad part is that it will probably catch up before any big name gives him a shot...

[RAMPAGE0017]

This express has just been derailed..


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[brooklyn1550]

Oops...Travis will come back, but I learned that Joachim Alcine was much better than Jose Antonio Rivera. Good win for Joachim

[HandsOfGold]

I never want to see Travis Simms fight ever again.

[Brickhaus]

I never want to see Travis Simms fight ever again.

:rofl

Yeah, it looks like age might have caught up with him already. He's still slick defensively, but he no longer has the stamina to bring it on the other end as well.

[markbrooklyn]

lemme jump off lol.. Nah that was a horrible fight for Simms, I hated that constant clinching.. They should really start taking points away from people that Clinch excessively

[sues2nd]

I think this train just crashed.

36 years old.....he is now a gatekeeper/journeyman. Sad, all that talent and he puts on a stinker like this (still thought he had won barely tho).

[brooklyn1550]

Age and inactivity is catching up to him...had he one in impressive fashion, he wasn't going to get big fights. Now that he lost, he is probably never going to get a big fight. And from what I have read, he doesn't deserve it.

[Brickhaus]

Who wants to start the Tarvis Simms Express? It's his twin brother and he's still undefeated as well :good

:rofl

[boxbible]

:rofl

Yeah, it looks like age might have caught up with him already. He's still slick defensively, but he no longer has the stamina to bring it on the other end as well.

The body shots did his stamina in.

Simms claim to fame is doing nothing against punching bag Terra Garcia and then knocking him out on the break.

Then he outboxes the ordinary clubfighter Antonio Rivera who gets offended if you miss him and who's car won't even steer sideways.

In between that, Simms had bored the zzzzz out of the unfortunate few who were witness to his gutless run-hit-grab tactics against washed up Bronco McKart.

Alcine ain't much but at least he comes to fight... :thumbsup

[liljp361]

Interesting...I actually thought Simms was better than that...

[Smith]

I'll hold my hands up and say i thought Simms would kill Alcine & beat ANYONE from 47 to 54. He's still my favourite fighter along with Haye, but he let the teaam down badly last night. He can do a lot better than that, but unfortunately, he has relegated himself to dangerous journeyman. Fuck sake Travis.

[Pimp C]

And to think people were saying he could beat PBF at 154.:lol: :rofl :lol:

[Smith]

And to think people were saying he could beat PBF at 154.:lol: :rofl :lol:

Again i hold my hands up, i geniunely thought he could:barf

[sues2nd]

Again i hold my hands up, i geniunely thought he could:barf

And I concede also. I was wrong....

I am still in shock at that awful performance. That wasnt the same fighter that fought Garcia, McKart or Rivera. In those fights he was relentless. His lefts were crisp, sharp and powerful. He threw in combinations.

Last night, he was content to throw 1 shot at a time. He was holding everytime they got close. He looked slow. He looked disinterested.

I still feel he barely won with how he dominated rounds 1-7 (it was an ugly domination...but even Alcine fans gotta admit Alcine didnt do shit for those rounds or at least most of them either.). But even if he did win a stinker like that, it wouldve hurt him in the long run anyway.

Oh well.....what can ya do.

[Azania]

no more "tremendous", his new nickname has been changed to "john ruiz". that was one of the most embarrasing performances i have witnessed.

Pipped me to it playa...Simms was "John Ruiz" last nite.I ain't seen a cat with so much skills fighting like that.The slap,grapple style was very painful to see.

Serves him well...the SOB got his hometown booing his ass off that ring.Hell,his corner was yelling at him to go for broke but nothing happened.What a bitch.His wife's got more balls than this cocksucker.

[audio101]

I love how he came into the ring pissed off, looking ready to kill his opponent and then nothing happened....

[brooklyn1550]

I also believed he had the style to beat Mayweather at 154

Everybody makes a bad prediction once and a while

[Drew101]

And I concede also. I was wrong....

I am still in shock at that awful performance. That wasnt the same fighter that fought Garcia, McKart or Rivera. In those fights he was relentless. His lefts were crisp, sharp and powerful. He threw in combinations.

Last night, he was content to throw 1 shot at a time. He was holding everytime they got close. He looked slow. He looked disinterested.

I still feel he barely won with how he dominated rounds 1-7 (it was an ugly domination...but even Alcine fans gotta admit Alcine didnt do shit for those rounds or at least most of them either.). But even if he did win a stinker like that, it wouldve hurt him in the long run anyway.

Oh well.....what can ya do.

As an Alcine fan, I've gotta take exception to your scoring, Sue. In a fight where neither fighter landed anything significant over the course of the early rounds, you'd have to give at least a few of the rounds to the fighter who was more active (i.e. throwing more than one punch at a time on occasion), and landing more. Simms landed the cleaner shots, but he just didn't land enough of them to earn anything more than a slight lead going into the 8th. And, after that, I think Alcine took over to earn the decision.

Ugly fight, though...and it sure as hell isn't going to help Alcine's chances of securing a big-name opponent either.

[brooklyn1550]

No, no.....you just don't know a whole lot about fighting.

Okay fucker, You've never made a bad prediction before?

I know a hell of a lot more about fighting than you ever will and I know a hell of a lot more about actually stepping into the ring to fight than you can ever dream of. It's fine though, nobody takes you seriously on this board.

[brooklyn1550]

and I like how you assume you know more about fighting than me

Have you followed this sport for the last 30 years? Have you had 40 amateur fights?

[Vantage_West]

Have you followed this sport for the last 30 years? Have you had 40 amateur fights?he's going for his pro debut soon...undefeated:good goes to a gym in hollywood i think his names charlie
also has a few vids on the web great display of skils

[Vantage_West]

anyways i was a alcine beliver simms didnt have the activity in his career to show anything special..real shame isnt he the U.S best amatuer boxer turned pro???? im british so im in now way of knowing

[brooklyn1550]

LOL i've had 50+ street fights bud. and a 22-2 amateur record fighting out of toronto.

doesn't matter how long you've followed the sport when yuo jump on the simms bandwagon after seing his natural talent against shitty opposition

I've had my share of street fights when I was younger too - as far as the 22-2 record, good for you:good

I learned a lesson last night...as I said yesterday, there is a big difference between an old Bronco McKart, Jose Antonio Rivera and a prime Joachim Alcine.

Honestly though, you can't possibly say you haven't been on a bandwagon of a promising undefeated fighter that ended up dissappointing.

[sues2nd]

As an Alcine fan, I've gotta take exception to your scoring, Sue. In a fight where neither fighter landed anything significant over the course of the early rounds, you'd have to give at least a few of the rounds to the fighter who was more active (i.e. throwing more than one punch at a time on occasion), and landing more. Simms landed the cleaner shots, but he just didn't land enough of them to earn anything more than a slight lead going into the 8th. And, after that, I think Alcine took over to earn the decision.

Ugly fight, though...and it sure as hell isn't going to help Alcine's chances of securing a big-name opponent either.

First, when neither fighter is very active, you cant really just say "give it to the guy throwing more". That doesnt make sense.

You score a fight on Defense, Ring Generalship, EFFECTIVE AGGRESSION & Clean punching....with the emphasis on clean punching. NOT, the emphasis on effective aggression, which over the first 6 or 7 rounds, neither fighter was. Remember it has to be effective, and you cant really call what Alcine did effective over the first 7. And on the aggression side, Simms was nonexistant.

BUT!

Simms easily had the better defense. Simms easily kept the fight at his pace and to his gameplan (think about it, Alcine didnt really land an effective jab or put out an effective body attack until round 8+). Simms also easily landed the cleaner punches.

Score it correctly and the first 7 rounds were Simms' (I had him 6-1 at that point).

I admit, I am/was a Simms fan. If you watch ANY of his other fights, they are NOTHING LIKE WHAT YOU SAW LAST NIGHT! But I wasnt scoring it as one. I will admit he looked awful (as did Alcine). And I wouldve been okay with a close decision or a split decision for Alcine (Id disagree, I felt it was a close decision for Simms, but)....but those scorecards were an abomination.

THAT and that alone is my only beef with the fight. I never score a fight as a fan of a fighter (unlike some others here....AND YOU ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE....:yep ). Last nights fight was a joke. No idea what that clone did with the real Travis Simms, but he sure fucked his chance to ever do anything meaningful in this sport again.

[C Money]

That performance by Simms was terrible and unlike what i've seen from him previously. His defense was out the window as Alcine crowded him and there was too much tying up. He claims to have hurt his hand and that it affected him but he still didnt look like himself aside from that. He certainly fucked up what worked for to this point. Sometimes, a loss can actually beget a larger opportunity as other's may view him as less of a risk. I hope that's the case here and he gets a shot with another name opponent/titlelist and that THIS performance was an aberration.

[Hawks28]

And I concede also. I was wrong....

I am still in shock at that awful performance. That wasnt the same fighter that fought Garcia, McKart or Rivera. In those fights he was relentless. His lefts were crisp, sharp and powerful. He threw in combinations.

Last night, he was content to throw 1 shot at a time. He was holding everytime they got close. He looked slow. He looked disinterested.

I still feel he barely won with how he dominated rounds 1-7 (it was an ugly domination...but even Alcine fans gotta admit Alcine didnt do shit for those rounds or at least most of them either.). But even if he did win a stinker like that, it wouldve hurt him in the long run anyway.

Oh well.....what can ya do.

You are kidding right? domination? He won 2-3 rounds between 1-7 at best. And he won 4 rounds at best during the whole fight.

And Im not sure where all this stuff about simms being a totally different fighter is coming from. It is much easier to look good when you fight a guy like Jose antonio Rivera. Although, I felt that Simms looking good in that fight had a lot to do with how awful Rivera looked. But Alcine has way more skill than Rivera, Garcia or Mckart. It was pretty much the same Simms in there, the only difference was that the quality of opponent went way up.

[Drew101]

First, when neither fighter is very active, you cant really just say "give it to the guy throwing more". That doesnt make sense.

You score a fight on Defense, Ring Generalship, EFFECTIVE AGGRESSION & Clean punching....with the emphasis on clean punching. NOT, the emphasis on effective aggression, which over the first 6 or 7 rounds, neither fighter was. Remember it has to be effective, and you cant really call what Alcine did effective over the first 7. And on the aggression side, Simms was nonexistant.

BUT!

Simms easily had the better defense. Simms easily kept the fight at his pace and to his gameplan (think about it, Alcine didnt really land an effective jab or put out an effective body attack until round 8+). Simms also easily landed the cleaner punches.

Score it correctly and the first 7 rounds were Simms' (I had him 6-1 at that point).

I admit, I am/was a Simms fan. If you watch ANY of his other fights, they are NOTHING LIKE WHAT YOU SAW LAST NIGHT! But I wasnt scoring it as one. I will admit he looked awful (as did Alcine). And I wouldve been okay with a close decision or a split decision for Alcine (Id disagree, I felt it was a close decision for Simms, but)....but those scorecards were an abomination.

THAT and that alone is my only beef with the fight. I never score a fight as a fan of a fighter (unlike some others here....AND YOU ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE....:yep ). Last nights fight was a joke. No idea what that clone did with the real Travis Simms, but he sure fucked his chance to ever do anything meaningful in this sport again.

Well, Simms landed the more eye-cathing shots, but they were few and far between. And, in terms of defense, I think Alcine's ability to nullfy the jab with a tight guard, and block most-though not all- of Simm's powerpunches, coupled with the single right hands that he was able to shoot to the body were enough for him to win a at least two, possibly three of the first seven rounds. (I had it 4-2-1 Simms) And, Alcine did do the better work down the home stretch of the fight, which enabled him to pull out a close decision on my card. ( 114-112, or 113-111 would be just about right.)

Anyway, I'll agree that it wasn't much of a fight, and I'll also agree with you that it didn't really reflect the skill and ability of either fighter. It could just have been a rotten styles match-up because Alcine is generally a more crowd-pleasing boxer puncher, and Simms, as you say, has been much more effective, and aesthicially pleasing in the past.

But, yeah...that fight didn't fo a hell of a lot to enhance either fighter's staus. And that's a shame, because they're both pretty good when given the chance to show it.