Can a really great street fighter beat a good pro-boxer?

[IsaL]

I have heard rumors of pro boxers losing fights to street fighters. Obviously in a street fight you grab, kick, punch, and kick. So do boxers have a disadvantage if they stick to boxing in a street fight?

[MacManJr.]

I have heard rumors of pro boxers losing fights to street fighters. Obviously in a street fight you grab, kick, punch, and kick. So do boxers have a disadvantage if they stick to boxing in a street fight?It doesn't even have to be a street fight. If Floyd were serious and went to MMA he'd get hospitalized!

[ZippyMan]

I have heard rumors of pro boxers losing fights to street fighters. Obviously in a street fight you grab, kick, punch, and kick. So do boxers have a disadvantage if they stick to boxing in a street fight?

A boxer doesn't need to stick to boxing in a street fight. Also, it isn't all that easy to grab a good boxer in a street fight.

A good example of a street fighter turned boxer is Jack Dempsey.

[RICH]

Alot Of Boxers Start Out And Are Discovered Street Fighting But To Answer Your Ques Anything Is Possible.
I Think If Bj Penn Thinks He Can Fight A Stand Up Fight With Floyd Hes Going To Be Looking Up At The Lights.

[IsaL]

A boxer doesn't need to stick to boxing in a street fight. Also, it isn't all that easy to grab a good boxer in a street fight.

A good example of a street fighter turned boxer is Jack Dempsey.

Some fighters make grabbing look very easy. John Huggy bear Ruiz.

And no a boxer doesn't have to stick to boxing but if he uses another fight style he is not accustomed he won't be as polished, so he would be at a disadvantage.

[pit]

I have heard rumors of pro boxers losing fights to street fighters. Obviously in a street fight you grab, kick, punch, and kick. So do boxers have a disadvantage if they stick to boxing in a street fight?

Iv heard of boxer getting shot dead in street fights , along with anyone else that thinks , street fights are to be taken lightly .

Fight in the streets , you take the chance of losing your life , keep fighting in the ring.

[ocelot]

someone with good wrestling experience can take a boxer down and neutralize the boxing superiority. The boxer might get in one or two shots first to end it, but if he misses or if the other guy doesn't drop, a good wrestler can swing in low and put the boxer on his ass. After that it's all over for the boxer. Just like MMA.

[scott is cool]

Ernie Shavers once had a street fighht in Liverpool, some cocky shit started laying into Ernie who went down. But Ernie got up and cracked him once and knocked the lad straight out.
I didn't see this by the way, I've been told my a few people who have heard it from a guy, who heard it from guy... you get the point.

[jopez707]

I am sure its possible that a decent to good boxer could lose in a street fight to a good streetfighter, especially if it were to go to the ground. But I can't imagine too many street fighters that would be able to beat up some of the very big strong heavyweight say a Foreman, Tua, or Prime Tyson. Hell I don't think many tough guys on the streets could even take a down a 50 year old Foreman.

[saul_ir34]

I have heard rumors of pro boxers losing fights to street fighters. Obviously in a street fight you grab, kick, punch, and kick. So do boxers have a disadvantage if they stick to boxing in a street fight?

Well around here i have noticed that most fights end up on the ground.
Growing up in Mexico as a kid and when i visit i was taught to never go to the ground. When we were little and we would fight the older kids would stand us back up and tell us not to do that.
It still holds true today if you go to mexico and you fight someone and one of you takes it to the ground and theres a crowd around they will stand you up. I have never seen a fight end at the ground there and most of my cousins were in gangs even they respect that.
All you gotta say is that you want "un tiro limpio" which translates to a a clean fight and no one will jump in and it stops as soon as someone says stop.
I still think its amazing that these guys (gangs) who go out and kill people at times will respect that if you say it to them.

[daprofessor]

anyone that can overcome the fear of getting punched in the face...bare knuckles no less.....can learn what it takes to succeed in boxing. i've trained plenty of street kids the sweet science. being tough is just one of the ingredients needed to succeed in boxing.

[hitman6616]

well I"ve had a few amature fights and when I get back into shape I plan on continueing.

HAveing said that I used to street fight ALOT when I was younger, and knowing HOW to throw punches would help if the guy stood and traded but no one does..actualy I think mui-thai is probably the most usefull in a street fight (elbows and knees)

[MON]

anyone got a video of a boxer in a streetfight. i heard there was a zab judah streafight on the net but never found it.

I've seen that.

He hits one guy.

Then his mates drop someone, so brave Zab runs in and kicks him whilst he's down, what a man.

[Dostoevsky]

Alot Of Boxers Start Out And Are Discovered Street Fighting But To Answer Your Ques Anything Is Possible.
I Think If Bj Penn Thinks He Can Fight A Stand Up Fight With Floyd Hes Going To Be Looking Up At The Lights.
I always wanted to ask, is your avatar photoshopped?
Tito's and Oscar's hands look so small, they look shrunken.:huh

[slender4]

You have to understand, most boxers were great streetfighters, that's why they box.

I've heard rumors that Zab Judah knocked Buster Rhymes out with one punch.

[joeboxer]

I've seen that.

He hits one guy.

Then his mates drop someone, so brave Zab runs in and kicks him whilst he's down, what a man.was the downed man a referee per chance?

[RICH]

I always wanted to ask, is your avatar photoshopped?
Tito's and Oscar's hands look so small, they look shrunken.:huh I HAVE NO IDEA JUST SNATCHED IT OF THE WEB

[rodney]

Easily.
Being a successfull boxer doesnt guarentee them success on the pavement.
On the pavement there are no rules.
Yes --- experience on the pavement counts big time.
Now remember you said "great streetfighter."
A boxer with no experience on the street is at a big disadvantage to an experience successful street fighter.
Many of those streetfighters, with training, have went on to become successfull boxers.

[gutto]

I think the key thing about the boxer doing well is he knows how to hit but the street is a different game. If the street fighter is great he is going to hit the boxer first and he wont stop untill the boxer is down and in most cases stomp the shit out of him.

[maracho]

There are some street fighters that can wip three good professional boxers at one time by themselves yet there are some boxers that would beat that same street fighter and more to a pulp all by themself. Theres a huge amount of variables involved including, strength, size, adrenalin, mental state, experience, divine intervention, etc..

[dangerousity]

There are some street fighters that can wip three good professional boxers at one time by themselves yet there are some boxers that would beat that same street fighter and more to a pulp all by themself. Theres a huge amount of variables involved including, strength, size, adrenalin, mental state, experience, divine intervention, etc..

Sorry, but no man, unless there is a huge size difference could whoop 3 good pro boxers at the same time. Fact of the matter is, a streetfighters main advantage is his dirty tactics and sucker punches. When your dealing with 1 guy and theres 2 other guys who can throw a perfect punch to put your lights out, your gonna go out. I dont care if youre the best streetfighter in town, mike tyson or fedor. Now I firmly believe a guy like Tyson or Fedor could take on 10 average guys at a time but not 3 guys of their size who can punch well enough to put their lights out.

[Longhhorn71]

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I think this guy might be a boxer.

What about when Roberto Duran cold-cocked that horse?

Is that considered to be a street fight?

[Shane_Erich]

I've seen that.

He hits one guy.

Then his mates drop someone, so brave Zab runs in and kicks him whilst he's down, what a man.

I saw this too, someone posted the link on here a few months back. I was suprised how wild Zab was swinging and how he ran off, but street fights are a hell of alot different then being in the ring.

[acb]

anyone got a video of a boxer in a streetfight. i heard there was a zab judah streafight on the net but never found it.

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[dan-b]

We've had some pretty dumb threads recently but this must be a candiate for top ten. The poster must be a child. I think we need to start a thread where we keep the URL's for all the stupidest threads that we come across then give out end of year honours.

[PedroDePacas]

was the downed man a referee per chance?
:lol: :lol:

[psychopath]

I have heard rumors of pro boxers losing fights to street fighters. Obviously in a street fight you grab, kick, punch, and kick. So do boxers have a disadvantage if they stick to boxing in a street fight?

Of course good boxers can lose to a street fighter in a street fight. They always have the disadvantage. Once the opponent grabs and grapple . . . he is already in deep trouble. Any boxer will always be out of his comfort zone if the fight includes kicking and grappling.

[maracho]

Sorry, but no man, unless there is a huge size difference could whoop 3 good pro boxers at the same time. Fact of the matter is, a streetfighters main advantage is his dirty tactics and sucker punches. When your dealing with 1 guy and theres 2 other guys who can throw a perfect punch to put your lights out, your gonna go out. I dont care if youre the best streetfighter in town, mike tyson or fedor. Now I firmly believe a guy like Tyson or Fedor could take on 10 average guys at a time but not 3 guys of their size who can punch well enough to put their lights out.
I know several proboxers and some of them might become well known but they could never even come close to wipping me except in the ring (often get the better of me) and I am fairly confindent that I could beat three of the welters or under in a street fight. Bragging is not good but again I am right here and you are wrong.

If they planned it right they could ware me down eventually but street fight usually are not planned and often get broke up after a little while--At least I would be praying it did:rofl

[joe the great]

Iv heard of boxer getting shot dead in street fights , along with anyone else that thinks , street fights are to be taken lightly .

Fight in the streets , you take the chance of losing your life , keep fighting in the ring. Same goes for UFC and Pride fighters. Street fighters have several advantages. The sucker punch and the tackle, but the average boxer boxers skill vs the average street fighter is way better. Also the other intangibles of a street fight are weapons and buddies. As Pitt said keep your fighting in the ring. It will keep you safer and out of jail and keep you from getting sued.

[AmazingHook]

I know several proboxers and some of them might become well known but they could never even come close to wipping me except in the ring (often get the better of me) and I am fairly confindent that I could beat three of the welters or under in a street fight. Bragging is not good but again I am right here and you are wrong

What makes you think those pro boxers could never come close to kicking your ass in a street fight?? Are you some kind of professional street fighter?

[maracho]

What makes you think those pro boxers could never come close to kicking your ass in a street fight?? Are you some kind of professional street fighter?
I just am sure after spending many a days with them,playing soccer, bulldozing them, wrestling around, knowing their personality, knowing my roughly 200 street fights

I will also say that I know bigger boxers that terrify me

[joe the great]

I just am sure after spending many a days with them,playing soccer, bulldozing them, wrestling around, knowing their personality, knowing my roughly 200 street fights

I will also say that I know bigger boxers that terrify me
Is that you Kimbo?

[maracho]

Is that you Kimbo?

No Kimbo would terrify me to but not as much as some of the human monsters I have known

[conditioner101]

I was 34-4 with 30 kos as an amateur boxer. In the street 70-0 all by KO. A boxer is far more mentally and physically prepared to fight then any street fighter. Think of the countless rounds of sparring which develope timing, accuracy, and nerve. A street fighter might get lucky and land a killer ko sucker unch, but even that is a stretch.
I have had wrestlers shoot on me, but I wrestled i high school. A quick sprawl and I am right where I wanna be... standing on my feet. I was taken to the ground one time and bit the guy. He immediately released me. Once standing... lights out. I'm not bragging because street fight victories are really no accomplishment. Usually its a wanna be tough guy who selectively picks his battles. Or a dumb drunk. All I know is that I never had a bit of trouble with with a "streetfighter"
Here is a youtube link. One of Kimbo Slices up and coming badasses. His name is Ray. He is fighting a boxer named George. Ray outwieghs Gorge by 30-40 pound. Ray gets served. They fought twice, and both times Geourge whooped his ass.
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[The Tuaman]

Check out Darrell Wilson beating the shit out of a cop on youtube. The cop shot him in the stomach and cracked him across his forehead with the butt of his gun but it didnt stop Darrell he kept comming!

[maracho]

I was 34-4 with 30 kos as an amateur boxer. In the street 70-0 all by KO. A boxer is far more mentally and physically prepared to fight then any street fighter. Think of the countless rounds of sparring which develope timing, accuracy, and nerve. A street fighter might get lucky and land a killer ko sucker unch, but even that is a stretch.
I have had wrestlers shoot on me, but I wrestled i high school. A quick sprawl and I am right where I wanna be... standing on my feet. I was taken to the ground one time and bit the guy. He immediately released me. Once standing... lights out. I'm not bragging because street fight victories are really no accomplishment. Usually its a wanna be tough guy who selectively picks his battles. Or a dumb drunk. All I know is that I never had a bit of trouble with with a "streetfighter"
Here is a youtube link. One of Kimbo Slices up and coming badasses. His name is Ray. He is fighting a boxer named George. Ray outwieghs Gorge by 30-40 pound. Ray gets served. They fought twice, and both times Geourge whooped his ass.
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Yes very interesting and I have posted that video before but Kimbo would stomp out Ray a lot quicker than George (an MMA guy) did. Plus most street fighters are not selective as you say but get called out as I would hope your 70 called you out

[joe the great]

No Kimbo would terrify me to but not as much as some of the human monsters I have known
J/k. How much do you weigh?

[conditioner101]

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[maracho]

J/k. How much do you weigh?
Walk around weight 185, 6.2" tall. Boxing weight Super media to light heavy. Why?
I also have a national championship ameteur boxing.

[conditioner101]

Yes very interesting and I have posted that video before but Kimbo would stomp out Ray a lot quicker than George (an MMA guy) did. Plus most street fighters are not selective as you say but get called out as I hope your 70 didYEah and a 265 lb boxer would destroy KIMBO!

[maracho]

YEah and a 265 lb boxer would destroy KIMBO!

I agree that usually they would "in the ring" but even then not always. I want to see more experiments between boxers and MMA. Only then will we all have an idea since MMA is the closet thing to street fighting and many an MMA guy were street fighters no matter how innocent you think they may look.

[dangerousity]

I know several proboxers and some of them might become well known but they could never even come close to wipping me except in the ring (often get the better of me) and I am fairly confindent that I could beat three of the welters or under in a street fight. Bragging is not good but again I am right here and you are wrong.

If they planned it right they could ware me down eventually but street fight usually are not planned and often get broke up after a little while--At least I would be praying it did:rofl

Well if your a 250lb man then thats obviously possible whereby you just pick each one up and throw them around when they get near. However if you are a WW also and these 3 guys are ready to take you on, explain to me how your gonna handle 3 at the same time? Use great footwork and outbox all 3 of them meanwhile KO'n all of them with 1 punch each?

A streetfighter could beat a boxer by grabbing them, slamming them on the floor and playing it dirty. However good you are of a grappler though, or how dirty you play it you would still need atleast 5seconds to take out someone completely so they cant bother you. 5 seconds is plenty enough time for the other 2 guys to land hooks on the back of your head or give you a good football kick on the balls. If they were average joes who would do their sissy punch on your back and you just turn around to KO them that would make sense, but if its a boxer throwing a full blown straight right to your back, expect a broken back...:)

[dangerousity]

Yes very interesting and I have posted that video before but Kimbo would stomp out Ray a lot quicker than George (an MMA guy) did. Plus most street fighters are not selective as you say but get called out as I would hope your 70 called you out

But Kimbo is 250lb and a boxer...he can beat up ray anyway he pleases.

[cardstars]

paCZAxchmjU

Who was that?

[Bigcat]

The closest monitered thing i have witnessed to a fighter v a tough half decent past his prime pro heavyweight was Ray v Kimbo....

Mercer did just get smothered and didn't get a chance to do anything.. But i dont suppose anyone would relish standing in front of a Ray Mercer past it or not and expect to get away unscathed.....

[maracho]

Well if your a 250lb man then thats obviously possible whereby you just pick each one up and throw them around when they get near. However if you are a WW also and these 3 guys are ready to take you on, explain to me how your gonna handle 3 at the same time? Use great footwork and outbox all 3 of them meanwhile KO'n all of them with 1 punch each?

A streetfighter could beat a boxer by grabbing them, slamming them on the floor and playing it dirty. However good you are of a grappler though, or how dirty you play it you would still need atleast 5seconds to take out someone completely so they cant bother you. 5 seconds is plenty enough time for the other 2 guys to land hooks on the back of your head or give you a good football kick on the balls. If they were average joes who would do their sissy punch on your back and you just turn around to KO them that would make sense, but if its a boxer throwing a full blown straight right to your back, expect a broken back...:)
You forgot about divine intervention. Thats the best way I can explain it. I have been kicked, piped, bottled in the back of the head so many times but almost always with very little injury. Thank the Lord for he is good!

[saul_ir34]

I was 34-4 with 30 kos as an amateur boxer. In the street 70-0 all by KO. A boxer is far more mentally and physically prepared to fight then any street fighter. Think of the countless rounds of sparring which develope timing, accuracy, and nerve. A street fighter might get lucky and land a killer ko sucker unch, but even that is a stretch.
I have had wrestlers shoot on me, but I wrestled i high school. A quick sprawl and I am right where I wanna be... standing on my feet. I was taken to the ground one time and bit the guy. He immediately released me. Once standing... lights out. I'm not bragging because street fight victories are really no accomplishment. Usually its a wanna be tough guy who selectively picks his battles. Or a dumb drunk. All I know is that I never had a bit of trouble with with a "streetfighter"
Here is a youtube link. One of Kimbo Slices up and coming badasses. His name is Ray. He is fighting a boxer named George. Ray outwieghs Gorge by 30-40 pound. Ray gets served. They fought twice, and both times Geourge whooped his ass.
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I saw this a while ago. This is probably the best street fight i have ever seen on the net. Like i said before people around here usually wrestle right away.
This right there is a typical mexican fight en el barrio.
Actually that Jorge guy is maybe even Mexican. He is latin thats for sure.
Everytime theres fights here at parties its mostly wrestling and a few punches here and there but nothing like this.
Jorge can throw some pretty nice punches i wonder why he went to MMA. He has to have some boxing background.

[acb]

Who was that?

Its a Turkish amatuer heavyweight (name I do not know).

The video shows what a boxer can do in a street fight, Im suprised actually to read this thread and wasnt going to comment but I cant resist any longer.

Boxing is great training for the street- its simple, economic and trains someone to be conditioned, respond immediately, and yes-take a shot and return.

Only MMA type training or Muay Thai compares IMO.

[maracho]

anyone can lose to anybody in a street. BTW alot of boxers were former street fighters(best of bothe worlds). dempsey, liston, rahman etc... etc... street fighting is almost an art into itself.
Very true. Its surprising how fluidly some can slam sandwich a head or dislocate a shoulder. Then there are adrenalin adaptions. Lenox lewis once said "its good for a boxer to stay out of street fights because once they go there its much harder to get any adrenalin advantages in the ring". The wrong kind of adrenalin rush can also have several disadvantages in the ring such has sapping long-term energy or making one forget offence.

[cardstars]

I was 34-4 with 30 kos as an amateur boxer. In the street 70-0 all by KO. A boxer is far more mentally and physically prepared to fight then any street fighter. Think of the countless rounds of sparring which develope timing, accuracy, and nerve. A street fighter might get lucky and land a killer ko sucker unch, but even that is a stretch.
I have had wrestlers shoot on me, but I wrestled i high school. A quick sprawl and I am right where I wanna be... standing on my feet. I was taken to the ground one time and bit the guy. He immediately released me. Once standing... lights out. I'm not bragging because street fight victories are really no accomplishment. Usually its a wanna be tough guy who selectively picks his battles. Or a dumb drunk. All I know is that I never had a bit of trouble with with a "streetfighter"
Here is a youtube link. One of Kimbo Slices up and coming badasses. His name is Ray. He is fighting a boxer named George. Ray outwieghs Gorge by 30-40 pound. Ray gets served. They fought twice, and both times Geourge whooped his ass.
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I saw this a while ago. This is probably the best street fight i have ever seen on the net. Like i said before people around here usually wrestle right away.
This right there is a typical mexican fight en el barrio.
Actually that Jorge guy is maybe even Mexican. He is latin thats for sure.
Everytime theres fights here at parties its mostly wrestling and a few punches here and there but nothing like this.
Jorge can throw some pretty nice punches i wonder why he went to MMA. He has to have some boxing background.

70 street fights :yikes
was that your full-time job?

[chimba]

Howd you think they discovered Pacquiao?

[saul_ir34]

Howd you think they discovered Pacquiao?


Was a street fighter???
He is a small guy but i remember back in the day one of the best fighters around our area was a 5'5" guy not the same build as Pacquiao a little chubbier but he was intense like him and would whoop some ass.
No one wanted a piece of him all these 6' guys or bigger wouldnt fight him because whenever someone did they would get pummeled. Its funny because this guy is seriously a little bigger than my 12 year old brother. He could fight!

[Bslice]

Iv heard of boxer getting shot dead in street fights , along with anyone else that thinks , street fights are to be taken lightly .

Fight in the streets , you take the chance of losing your life , keep fighting in the ring.


Pit says "Say no to street fights kids"

[chimba]

Was a street fighter???
He is a small guy but i remember back in the day one of the best fighters around our area was a 5'5" guy not the same build as Pacquiao a little chubbier but he was intense like him and would whoop some ass.
No one wanted a piece of him all these 6' guys or bigger wouldnt fight him because whenever someone did they would get pummeled. Its funny because this guy is seriously a little bigger than my 12 year old brother. He could fight!

Pac was always in trouble as a youngster what better way to exploit his skill. The guy has no basic boxing skills to show for ..go watch his old fights...he still aint got much technical skills now
remember also in the Islands, there aint many 6'0 200lbs guys

[Gonzo]

If trained properly, then I would say yes.

[conditioner101]

[quote=saul_ir34]

70 street fights :yikes
was that your full-time job?Well I am 34. I am talking over the span of 16 years thats about 4 fights a year. And I am in now way bragging. For one reason or another I seem to be the guy that the jerk looki for a fight finds.

[LockDog387]

I wouldn't want to mess with Lennox Lewis in the streets.

[splatter69]

I seen Zab whoop the shit out of this boy at a afterparty for the Tito vs Winky fight. The boy threw a drink on Zab, because he sat next to him and this girl. I was talking to one of Floyds boys when it happen. This must of been the fastes two punches I seen in my life. So ythe boy falls on the couch, then every one jump in Zab crew and some of Floyds crew. But Floyd was mad that it happen. But the crazy thing was they was stomping and kicking him, and also threw atable at him. But he was never knock out. They also took his pimp cup. But it was sad because Zab should know better. But it will catch up with him one day

Sounds like a bunch of pussies. I hate people that go and stomp someone like that. Wow were tuff... lets all 12 of us stomp one guy and feel like bad asses.

On a lighter note....WTF is a pimp cup.

[tays001]

good old fashioned hand to hand combat . pressure point's and dirty fighting.

number one thing is you fight to hurt not win in a street fight that what i was always taught. thing i always found usefull was inshinru style . very effective in demobilizing your enemy.

[LockDog387]

good old fashioned hand to hand combat . pressure point's and dirty fighting.

number one thing is you fight to hurt not win in a street fight that what i was always taught. thing i always found usefull was inshinru style . very effective in demobilizing your enemy.
And thats where boxers excel, streetfighters are untrained fighters, boxers are trained fighters, their is a big difference. Once a boxers lands a left hook to the body and a right hand upstairs, it's over.

[LockDog387]

I was 34-4 with 30 kos as an amateur boxer. In the street 70-0 all by KO. A boxer is far more mentally and physically prepared to fight then any street fighter. Think of the countless rounds of sparring which develope timing, accuracy, and nerve. A street fighter might get lucky and land a killer ko sucker unch, but even that is a stretch.
I have had wrestlers shoot on me, but I wrestled i high school. A quick sprawl and I am right where I wanna be... standing on my feet. I was taken to the ground one time and bit the guy. He immediately released me. Once standing... lights out. I'm not bragging because street fight victories are really no accomplishment. Usually its a wanna be tough guy who selectively picks his battles. Or a dumb drunk. All I know is that I never had a bit of trouble with with a "streetfighter"
Here is a youtube link. One of Kimbo Slices up and coming badasses. His name is Ray. He is fighting a boxer named George. Ray outwieghs Gorge by 30-40 pound. Ray gets served. They fought twice, and both times Geourge whooped his ass.
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I need to start hitting the boxing gym, seriously.

[Dynamite Kid]

Alot Of Boxers Start Out And Are Discovered Street Fighting But To Answer Your Ques Anything Is Possible.
I Think If Bj Penn Thinks He Can Fight A Stand Up Fight With Floyd Hes Going To Be Looking Up At The Lights.

Floyd would beat BJ in a stand up fight, but BJ looking up at the lights? I don't think so:lol:

[cardstars]

[quote=cardstars]Well I am 34. I am talking over the span of 16 years thats about 4 fights a year. And I am in now way bragging. For one reason or another I seem to be the guy that the jerk looki for a fight finds.

Well if that is you in your avatar, they picked the wrong guy to fuck with from the looks of it

[eliqueiros]

Well around here i have noticed that most fights end up on the ground.
Growing up in Mexico as a kid and when i visit i was taught to never go to the ground. When we were little and we would fight the older kids would stand us back up and tell us not to do that.
It still holds true today if you go to mexico and you fight someone and one of you takes it to the ground and theres a crowd around they will stand you up. I have never seen a fight end at the ground there and most of my cousins were in gangs even they respect that.
All you gotta say is that you want "un tiro limpio" which translates to a a clean fight and no one will jump in and it stops as soon as someone says stop.
I still think its amazing that these guys (gangs) who go out and kill people at times will respect that if you say it to them.

I grew up on the US side of the border and am Mexican American and it was like this as well. If a kid fell to the ground and the other was gonna take advantage everyone would stop the fight and let the other guy get back on his feet. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the love of boxing as a sport. In US it is different, the fights end up on the ground very quickly. I think its a Mexican thing

[eliqueiros]

paCZAxchmjU

Wow GBP needs to find him and sign him up!

[inchpunch]

Frank Bruno once trained with a Wing Chun master in Hing Kong who weighed 125 pounds. Bruno admitted later that he would get his ass kicked in a real fight by this little guy. Boxing is a sport, a few of the martial arts like Wing Chun, Jeet Kune Do, Hsing - I and others were developed for real fighting. Watch Emin Boztepe on youtube if you want to see someone who would beat every pro boxer in a street fight.

[conditioner101]

[quote=conditioner101]

Well if that is you in your avatar, they picked the wrong guy to fuck with from the looks of itLOL yeah thats me. i don't really know why i seem to always be the target when i go out. so now i just avoid places where i might run into some troublemaker lookin for a fight. i always felt that if you go lookin for a fight you are gonna find the person thats gonna hand you your ass. i am a pretty quiet person by nature. so maybe wanna be tough guys then assume i'm soft because im not all loud and beating my chest. bottom line is people should just be nicer to eachother. its a shame that something as simple as common courtesy is so lacking in the people of our generation.

[conditioner101]

Frank Bruno once trained with a Wing Chun master in Hing Kong who weighed 125 pounds. Bruno admitted later that he would get his ass kicked in a real fight by this little guy. Boxing is a sport, a few of the martial arts like Wing Chun, Jeet Kune Do, Hsing - I and others were developed for real fighting. Watch Emin Boztepe on youtube if you want to see someone who would beat every pro boxer in a street fight.
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA you have got to be kidding. You martial arts guys are all dillusional. A boxer would destroy that guy. I watched his videos! What a joke. I can't even find the words to describe what a joke that is. Watch the videos because seeing is believing. LOL:rofl :patsch :roll: :?

[nfc90210]

Here is a youtube link. One of Kimbo Slices up and coming badasses. His name is Ray. He is fighting a boxer named George. Ray outwieghs Gorge by 30-40 pound. Ray gets served. They fought twice, and both times Geourge whooped his ass.

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The George guy is Jorge Masvidal.

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Though he's never fought in the UFC, and isn't a huge name, he's a decent fighter. He's 12-2 overall and stopped Yves Edwards, who did come into the fight on a losing streak, last year. He also beat Joe Lauzon about three years ago. They are probably the most famous names on his resume.

He's mixed in decent, but not great, company.

[saul_ir34]

I grew up on the US side of the border and am Mexican American and it was like this as well. If a kid fell to the ground and the other was gonna take advantage everyone would stop the fight and let the other guy get back on his feet. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the love of boxing as a sport. In US it is different, the fights end up on the ground very quickly. I think its a Mexican thing

Thats something i like.
Here at parties people always jump in and one takes you down and the other ones kick you. Its dirty fighting. I dont understand where the honor in that is.

[nfc90210]

Also, Jorge Masvidal is a member of a ATT which is a great MMA camp. The boxing coach there is none other than Howard Davis, Jr.

Yes, Howard Davis, Jr. as in the Olympic gold medallist.

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[David UK]

No

[joe the great]

YEah and a 265 lb boxer would destroy KIMBO!
Ray doesn't have much heart. That little guy Jorge has a lot of heart.

[ozziebattler]

I am sure its possible that a decent to good boxer could lose in a street fight to a good streetfighter, especially if it were to go to the ground. But I can't imagine too many street fighters that would be able to beat up some of the very big strong heavyweight say a Foreman, Tua, or Prime Tyson. Hell I don't think many tough guys on the streets could even take a down a 50 year old Foreman.


I wouldnt even trade with george at 70..

[Bummy Davis]

I have seen and heard of fighters getting beat up in a street fight, but a guy that has had some punching experience, most of the time a guy who knows how to punch, like a fighter will win, a guy who throws a correct punch,down the pike can hit punch harder than a street brawler, but a good street fighter is like a cage fighter, can punch,kick, knee,elbow and bite, you can get a guy in a choke hold and lock your hands, you can stomp with your shoes on and you can pull a guy by the hair and punch,and knee or kick him in the balls, not your mark of queensbury rules....a good N.Y. street fighter in condition is a hard man to beat on a concrete sidewalk

[Larson]

I know it's not even remotely related to the thread, and an entirely random inclusion, but I have the strongest wanting of watching Zab Judah beat the bloody shit out of Arturo Gatti right now, too bad they never fought.

[joe the great]

Frank Bruno once trained with a Wing Chun master in Hing Kong who weighed 125 pounds. Bruno admitted later that he would get his ass kicked in a real fight by this little guy. Boxing is a sport, a few of the martial arts like Wing Chun, Jeet Kune Do, Hsing - I and others were developed for real fighting. Watch Emin Boztepe on youtube if you want to see someone who would beat every pro boxer in a street fight.
Every pro boxer.:patsch :silly

[acb]

Frank Bruno once trained with a Wing Chun master in Hing Kong who weighed 125 pounds. Bruno admitted later that he would get his ass kicked in a real fight by this little guy. Boxing is a sport, a few of the martial arts like Wing Chun, Jeet Kune Do, Hsing - I and others were developed for real fighting. Watch Emin Boztepe on youtube if you want to see someone who would beat every pro boxer in a street fight.

:patsch:roll:

[maracho]

I wouldnt even trade with george at 70..
The guy in your Avatar started out as merely a great street fighter, won a 1988 golden gloves without any formal boxing training, won his first pro fight the same year, then beat Forman for the WBO heavyweight championship in 1993.;)

[OklahomaHoss]

the sad truth is yes. if he can get him on the ground and knows how to grapple. IF he is indeed a "really great" street fighter, he'll know how, and the boxer, having trained in nothing but standing up and punching, will be at a huge disadvantage.



You guys DO remember Kimbo/Mercer, right?

[splatter69]

The cups tht most rappers in the south carry. They have the fake diamonds with there names on them


Ahh ok.

Learn somthin new every day.

[Silverfox]

Duran not only killed them IN the ring....he would have slaughtered them in the street. Just try to imagine a rampant Duran, fighting WITHOUT rules!

It is said that breaking him of the reflex to kick in the nether regions, was not a simple matter when he first began to box.

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[maracho]

Duran not only killed them IN the ring....he would have slaughtered them in the street. Just try to imagine a rampant Duran, fighting WITHOUT rules!

It is said that breaking him of the reflex to kick in the nether regions, was not a simple matter when he first began to box.

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Duran grew up a street fighter in one of the toughest neiborhoods (Chorillo) in the western hemisphere

[joe the great]

the sad truth is yes. if he can get him on the ground and knows how to grapple. IF he is indeed a "really great" street fighter, he'll know how, and the boxer, having trained in nothing but standing up and punching, will be at a huge disadvantage.



You guys DO remember Kimbo/Mercer, right?
Mercer was 106 years old.:lol: ok 46.

[LockDog387]

This retarded topic is back again?

[El Puma]

This retarded topic is back again?:lol::lol::lol: It's simple, too many variables to come to a concrete answer.

[inchpunch]

I know it's not even remotely related to the thread, and an entirely random inclusion, but I have the strongest wanting of watching Zab Judah beat the bloody shit out of Arturo Gatti right now, too bad they never fought.

Unless you have a few years of WingChun/WingTsun practice under your belt, you just don't know how effective this art is. Bruce Lee studied all fighting arts he could get his hands on, including boxing, but whenever he was serious about fighting, he went back to Wing Chun chain punching. Do you thing Frank Bruno admitted he would be beaten by a guy who was half his weight without good reason?

[fists of fury]

Do you thing Frank Bruno admitted he would be beaten by a guy who was half his weight without good reason?

Frank was just being polite. ;)

The thought of some 125lb. man taking on a monster like Bruno is quite scary actually.

[joe the great]

Frank was just being polite. ;)

The thought of some 125lb. man taking on a monster like Bruno is quite scary actually.
He better damage Brunos knee quickly.

[dangerousity]

the sad truth is yes. if he can get him on the ground and knows how to grapple. IF he is indeed a "really great" street fighter, he'll know how, and the boxer, having trained in nothing but standing up and punching, will be at a huge disadvantage.



You guys DO remember Kimbo/Mercer, right?

Kimbo isnt just a streetfighter though. He has had plenty of boxing training, enough to not get KO with the first punch thrown. Also even before the Mercer fight, he knew he could not beat Mercer standing so he was training alot of groundwork with former MMA champ Bas Rutten. The streetfighters without any form of training at all were the ones Kimbo was beating up in the streets, Kimbo was the boxer...just not a pro one.

[ayala]

I have never used my boxing skills in a street fight except the accurancy and timing of you punching will be better as a boxer, but in a street fight anything goes!!!!!!its alot easier to time with pure accuracy in a street fight

[Chunk]

a street fight is a different game all together....but there boxing skills would help them