Who took the worst beating in victory?

[KobeIsGod]

How bout foreman against stewart. he looked like a friggin alien :!: just saw this fight for the 1st time and george's refusal to sit down was pretty stupid. dundee couldn't effectively use the end-swell. lampley, merchant and everyone else wrote him off and said he should reitre. amazing how he would win the title in less than 2 years.

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[janitor]

Joe Jeanette against Sam McVea is a good bet.

also-

Kid Lavigne against Barbados Joe Walcott.

Bat Nelson against almost anybody.

[Russell]

Willard was supposedly pretty beaten up against Johnson. How it's going to be when someone takes almost every round of a 20 something round fight until you gas out.

Tommy Morrison broke his hand and cheek I think against Hipp?

[Sonny's jab]

Those pictures of George Foreman remind me what a great fighter he was.
There was no quit in George, and he's 43 years old there.

[ChrisPontius]

Those pictures of George Foreman remind me what a great fighter he was.
There was no quit in George, and he's 43 years old there.

Truely amazing indeed. The only "black mark" in that sense is that he didn't get up in time against Ali. But some of the punishement he took at an age when he was supposed to sit by the barbeque or sell grills.. incredible.



Riddick Bowe took an aweful lot of punishement in his second "victory" over Golota.

Joe Frazier took a massive beating when he beat Ali and was never the same again.

[TBooze]

Willard was supposedly pretty beaten up against Johnson. How it's going to be when someone takes almost every round of a 20 something round fight until you gas out.

Tommy Morrison broke his hand and cheek I think against Hipp?

I watched a lot Johnson/Willard; it was just very, very boring. Willard got away as lightly as anyone could except to punishment wise for a 26 round World Heavyweight Championship fight IMO.

Tommy did indeed take a lot of punishment in the Hipp fight. I used to know a poster on another forum who knew Tommy well. And his little joke always was: Why was Morrison better than Ali? Because he broke his jaw in a bout as well (against Hipp); but won!;)

As for the thread, I would add Hearns/BarkleyI

Nelson against Gans (twice in two months in 1908.)

Wolgast 42 round win over Nelson was considered a brutal fight.

And as has been mentioned Jeannete had to get up from nearly 30 knockdowns to beat Sam Mcvey in Paris in 1909...

[zippy]

Bobby Chacon's face after the second Boza Edwards fight was tough to look at.

[Marciano Frazier]

Matthew Saad Muhammad was known to take a beating and win.

[bxrfan]

Jorge Fernando Castro TKO9 John David Jackson.

[Russell]

Truely amazing indeed. The only "black mark" in that sense is that he didn't get up in time against Ali. But some of the punishement he took at an age when he was supposed to sit by the barbeque or sell grills.. incredible.



He was mentally beaten even before the actual Ali fight. He had an entire continent against him and he was so paranoid he had his food flown in because he was terrified it was being poisoned.

He got right up after Ali dropped him and walked back to his corner.

He was just mentally beaten, I'd say.

[punchy]

Ali/Frazier III Ali said it was as close to death as it got he just didn't show it on his face like others but he wasa beaten man after the fight.

[Mike T]

Diego Corrales vs Jose Luis Castillo

[Dempsey1238]

I think the Johnson Willard fight is MOSTLY a MYTH in regards to Johnson beatin Willard from pillar to post, until he gas out. As said before, there was hardly no action, outside of a few rounds, that being the 17th, the 25th and of couse the 26th rounds.

[jimmie]

Diego Corrales vs Castillo sure hes passed on now but his career was dead after that 1st fight.

[markedwardscott]

I agree that Frazier took bad beating in first Ali fight. Announcer Dunphy comments several times how bad his face looks.

Ali took a real beating in Manilla against Frazier although it was mostly to the body.

I remember watching the first Pryor Aguello fight and wondering what was keeping Pryor on his feet. Arguello hit him on the point of the chin dozens of times with that dynamite right hand and Pryor just walked right through it. After their two fights I don't think either of them had anything left.

[SteveO]

Marciano-Walcott I

[Dempsey1238]

Which fighter of Marciano Walcott 1>?? They both took pretty bad beatings.

[Longhhorn71]

Diego Corrales vs Castillo sure hes passed on now but his career was dead after that 1st fight.

Rocky had a "nose-plant" after the 2nd Charles fight which
probably wasn't covered by typical insurance plans.

[PhillyPhan69]

Jorge Fernando Castro TKO9 John David Jackson.

That would be my pick...he was not really even into that fight! Jackson had him on the ropes and was hammering again...when he drops his hands and...goodbye!

[Sonny's jab]

Yeah, the referee was coming in to save Castro when Castro lands the winning punch.

Barkley took a bit of a beating (for a 3-rounder) against Hearns before KOing him.

I remember Carl Thompson took a bit of a hammering then beat a guy called Rothman a few years back. Then a few months later Thompson was getting battered early on by David Haye, then came back to KO Haye !

[TBooze]

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[Minotauro]

Ali took a lot of punishment against Frazier in their third. Also Moore took a beating agianst Durelle in there first he got battered in the first round.

[dpw417]

He was mentally beaten even before the actual Ali fight. He had an entire continent against him and he was so paranoid he had his food flown in because he was terrified it was being poisoned.

He got right up after Ali dropped him and walked back to his corner.

He was just mentally beaten, I'd say.
I feel you have made a very legitimate point there...Maybe he wasn't broken mentally before(?) the fight, but he definitely was during the fight...Engaging Ali on a stage like that would have an incredible challenge psychologically...I can't imagine it...Problably the most daunting situation any fighter has ever experienced in boxing history...I haven't read his books, but I've read Foreman has stated he could have gotten up in that instance, but did not...and it truly haunted him...for over twenty years!
I feel it affected Foreman's mindset in his fights following Ali and in his comeback 10 years later. I remember Foreman saying something to the effect when questioned about his fight with Lyle, "I was willing to die for it....sometimes, you have to be willing to die for it..." (sorry. I can't remember the source)
In his comeback, Foreman would walk through some hellstorms, namely that Holyfield 20 punch combination (or so) in their fight...That Gentlemen was nothing short of incredible...and the punishment he endured from teh likes of Stewart and Moorer, to go forward and win...
Foreman, with his religious conviction, said the only thing he feared anymore was the Lord...and he fought that way! A very, very determined opponent to face in the ring...

[Longhhorn71]

I feel you have made a very legitimate point there...Maybe he wasn't broken mentally before(?) the fight, but he definitely was during the fight...Engaging Ali on a stage like that would have an incredible challenge psychologically...I can't imagine it...Problably the most daunting situation any fighter has ever experienced in boxing history...I haven't read his books, but I've read Foreman has stated he could have gotten up in that instance, but did not...and it truly haunted him...for over twenty years!
I feel it affected Foreman's mindset in his fights following Ali and in his comeback 10 years later. I remember Foreman saying something to the effect when questioned about his fight with Lyle, "I was willing to die for it....sometimes, you have to be willing to die for it..." (sorry. I can't remember the source)
In his comeback, Foreman would walk through some hellstorms, namely that Holyfield 20 punch combination (or so) in their fight...That Gentlemen was nothing short of incredible...and the punishment he endured from teh likes of Stewart and Moorer, to go forward and win...
Foreman, with his religious conviction, said the only thing he feared anymore was the Lord...and he fought that way! A very, very determined opponent to face in the ring...

The Ali-Foreman fight was very strange...beginning with Foreman getting his eye cut in training and the fight delayed a month. And you had Don King just getting going in boxing promoting with rights to the winner I am sure. Remember Liston lost it all for the "second' fight when Ali had to have a hernia operation and that fight got delayed too....with Ali coming out on top.

[RockyJim]

The Rock in the 1st Walcott fight! Knocked down for the fist time...cut...blinded for 3 rounds...behind on all score cards...then BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PowerPuncher]

Recently a fighter died after winning in Asia.

Benn-McCellan - Benn was ruined after that fight
Eubank-Watson 2

[Russell]

How about Leotis Martin vs. Sonny Liston?

[jaywilton]

Michael Katsidis decision Czar Amonsot
Rocky Graziano kayo Tony Zale(second fight)
Mathew Saad Muhammad kayo Marvin Johnson(second fight)

[Mendoza]

Maybe Frazier, who was in horrible shape after his first fight with Ali.

[fists of fury]

Michael Katsidis decision Czar Amonsot

Great pick. Katsidis' face was grotesquely swollen after that fight, not to mention that vicious cut as well.

Barkley v Hearns 1 - Iran took a beating for a while there.
Marciano v Charles 2 - ugly cut on the nose, plus cuts under eyes.

[Sonny's jab]

There's a picture of Billy Conn somewhere on the net (perhaps on the Billy Conn website) where he's reading the newspaper after his fight with middleweight champ FRED APOSTOLI (this was before Conn won the light-heavy championship), and his whole head is wrapped up in bandages, just like a mummy.

Referees in those days used to let the guys bust each other up !
And those guys didn't hold back, especially when it was an Irish guy and an Italian guy going in front of their supporters.
The picture is really worth checking out. I'll try to find it.

[SteveO]

Quarry-Zanon.

[red cobra]

A guy that took a frightful beating in the rounds leading up to his sensational title winning, one punch 14th round victory for the undisputed bantamweight title back in 1973, was Arnold Taylor of South Africa, over Romeo Anaya of Mexico. Taylor was battered unmercifully for most of the 13 rounds preceeding the 14th round finish by Anaya. He was deck numerous times, and was even the recipient of a long count in one of the rounds, but persevered to pole axe the Mexican with a right hand in the 14th and last round.