Dana talks about kimbo

[boxingcar]

White talks about Kimbo
Internet sensation Kimbo Slice currently competes in rival organization EliteXC. Slice was made famous through street fights televised on Youtube.com.
White does not think that Slice is ready for the UFC.


“Sean Gannon beat him in a street fight. Everyone saw happened to Sean Gannon when he fought a guy that no one ever heard of (a decisive TKO loss to Branden Lee Hinkle in the UFC),” said White,



“Gannon was in the hospital for three weeks.”


“That’s what would happen to Kimbo Slice if he fought in the UFC. He would get hurt bad – real bad,” White said.

[scurlaruntings]

For once i agree with the turd. Right now UFC is the big leagues. Kimbo wouldnt stand much chance against any of the names there.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Yes, Gannon went into the UFC and got his ass DESTROYED by an old wrestling buddy of mine. (Branden lives about 15 minutes from my house) Hinkle was a very good wrestler in a college, and had a pretty good punch. He has had so-so success in MMA... but he absolutely brutalized Gannon.

[scurlaruntings]

Hinkle never amounted to anything in MMA. He was a good journeyman of sorts but had some brutal loss`s. Monson`s north south choke on him was quite vicious as well as his loss to Jason Lambert. As for the Gannon fight that was merely UFC press built off the back of his street fight with Kimbo.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

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Hinkle vs Gannon

[scurlaruntings]

Seen it already. It was an annihilation. Gannon was only a cop anyway with balls.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Hinkle never amounted to anything in MMA. He was a good journeyman of sorts but had some brutal loss`s. Monson`s north south choke on him was quite vicious as well as his loss to Jason Lambert. As for the Gannon fight that was merely UFC press built off the back of his street fight with Kimbo.
Hinkle never amounted to anything in the UFC... but he has had some success in MMA in general. Outside of the win over Gannon, he has wins over Jorge Rivera, Travis Fulton, and about 6 months ago he beat Roman Zentsov.. Fedor's training Partner. Back in the day he had a real close fight with Maurice Smith. He isn't some slouch... he is just pretty inconsistent as he is a little floaty in the head.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Also... Hinkle never belonged at heavyweight. The UFC wanted him to fight there, and he couldn't perform at that weight, which is why it never worked out. Just seems like the good offers that he gets to fight are always at heavyweight, so he takes them.

[billyconn]

Also... Hinkle never belonged at heavyweight. The UFC wanted him to fight there, and he couldn't perform at that weight, which is why it never worked out. Just seems like the good offers that he gets to fight are always at heavyweight, so he takes them.

Did he wrestle at Weirton in highschool?

Also who would you say is the Valley's most accomplished wrestler excluding the obvious answer Bobby Douglas, when considering highschool and college?

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Did he wrestle at Weirton in highschool?
This again?:lol: I never knew him from High School, he is a good bit older than me. He wrestled for West Liberty in College. I used to go up to West Liberty and train with a lot of those guys, as I had some older people from my school who wrestled there, and guys like Mark Coleman and Nick Nutter used to come down to prepare for MMA events on occasion.

[billyconn]

This again?:lol: I never knew him from High School, he is a good bit older than me. He wrestled for West Liberty in College. I used to go up to West Liberty and train with a lot of those guys, as I had some older people from my school who wrestled there, and guys like Mark Coleman and Nick Nutter used to come down to prepare for MMA events on occasion.

no thoughts on the second part of my question?

[billyconn]

This again?:lol: I never knew him from High School, he is a good bit older than me. He wrestled for West Liberty in College. I used to go up to West Liberty and train with a lot of those guys, as I had some older people from my school who wrestled there, and guys like Mark Coleman and Nick Nutter used to come down to prepare for MMA events on occasion.

I never asked if you knew him in highschool, I thought you might have known where an "old wrestling buddy" went to highschool. :patsch

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

The second part of the question wasn't there when I first replied.

Well, pretty hard to answer. A lot of wrestlers from the Ohio Valley have branched off into different areas of wrestling and had success in college, Military and/or the freestyle/Greco world after their successful high school careers. Can't rattle off any national Champs that come to mind... so it would be hard to project who was better out of the rest. Dunyasha "Tubbo" Yetts would come to mind. There are others, but I don't always follow every Valley kid throughout his wrestling career unless I know them well. I am sure there are some old heads who did well at that level also... but outside of Douglas and a few others that I know, I never really researched past accomplishments of guys who came before me either.

Yetts comes to mind because when he was in College, he taught me this sweet move, and I used to clean house with it. I have a pic of me hitting it on some kid at OVAC's in my photobucket, if photobucket comes back online I will post it for you to see. I think that I still have it on here from when I posted some pics in that thread about "High School accomplishments" that got me in so much trouble.:lol:

I would say that the two best wrestlers that I personally know, who were closer to my age would be Jeremy Hunter, and Tommy Rowlands. Neither of them were from the Valley though. Rowlands is from Columbus, and Hunter lived about 20 minutes away in Claysville PA.

[billyconn]

The second part of the question wasn't there when I first replied.

Well, pretty hard to answer. A lot of wrestlers from the Ohio Valley have branched off into different areas of wrestling and had success in college, Military and/or the freestyle/Greco world after their successful high school careers. Can't rattle off any national Champs that come to mind... so it would be hard to project who was better out of the rest. Dunyasha "Tubbo" Yetts would come to mind. There are others, but I don't always follow every Valley kid throughout his wrestling career unless I know them well. I am sure there are some old heads who did well at that level also... but outside of Douglas and a few others that I know, I never really researched past accomplishments of guys who came before me either.



Yetts comes to mind because when he was in College, he taught me this sweet move, and I used to clean house with it. I have a pic of me hitting it on some kid at OVAC's in my photobucket, if photobucket comes back online I will post it for you to see. I think that I still have it on here from when I posted some pics in that thread about "High School accomplishments" that got me in so much trouble.:lol:

I would say that the two best wrestlers that I personally know, who were closer to my age would be Jeremy Hunter, and Tommy Rowlands. Neither of them were from the Valley though. Rowlands is from Columbus, and Hunter lived about 20 minutes away in Claysville PA.

I wrestled Yetts at a summer tournament at 140 pounds.

[Beebs]

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Hinkle vs Gannon

Been looking for a copy of that for a while, I like to try and keep track of all the current and former hammer house guys. Was nice to see him get a win over a biggish name in Zenstov

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

I wrestled Yetts at a summer tournament at 140 pounds.
Here it is...

I called it "The Yetts" out of respect...

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Horrible quality pictures, I know. Back when they were asking me for pics on that thread, I just took the pictures from the screen.... as all of my matches are on regular video tapes.

While we are on it, I will post the others that I still have in my photobucket from that thread. Once again... the pictures are shitty quality.

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Alright, this is the last that I will speak of the "High School days", before the hate patrol comes through and complains about it for another 3 years.:D

[fightercraig]

Getting back to Kimbo, I think its hardly fair of Dana to be so dismissive of him. True Gannon beat him, but that was before he'd trained any MMA at all.

Its true he's not that well rounded, but neither was Lesnar and they gave him a UFC fight no questions asked against a mediocre opponent. Why can't they do the same for Kimbo. At least he has been trainiing hard at MMA.

Both Lesner (pre-Mir of course) and Kimbo are 1/0/0 at MMA, but being honest I was more impressed with Kimbo's skills in his first fight than I was with Lesnar's.

I think Dana is being hypocrital because it seems to have nothing to do with the fighter's skills and everything to do with how much hype and money a fighter will bring to the UFC (eg Lesnar again). At least Kimbo can take a punch in the face. :-)

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Getting back to Kimbo, I think its hardly fair of Dana to be so dismissive of him. True Gannon beat him, but that was before he'd trained any MMA at all.

Its true he's not that well rounded, but neither was Lesnar and they gave him a UFC fight no questions asked against a mediocre opponent. Why can't they do the same for Kimbo. At least he has been trainiing hard at MMA.

Both Lesner (pre-Mir of course) and Kimbo are 1/0/0 at MMA, but being honest I was more impressed with Kimbo's skills in his first fight than I was with Lesnar's.

I think Dana is being hypocrital because it seems to have nothing to do with the fighter's skills and everything to do with how much hype and money a fighter will bring to the UFC (eg Lesnar again). At least Kimbo can take a punch in the face. :-)
I don't dismiss Kimbo as a bum... but I wouldn't understand how you were more impressed with Kimbo. Yes he won... but it wasn't a fight, and it didn't show us anything other than his willingness to fight. His opponent dropped and took cover, and didn't fight back. Lesnar was fighting a former UFC Champion, and dominating him... before being submitted.

[Dstep]

Dana is a hating b*tch

[Beebs]

Getting back to Kimbo, I think its hardly fair of Dana to be so dismissive of him. True Gannon beat him, but that was before he'd trained any MMA at all.

Its true he's not that well rounded, but neither was Lesnar and they gave him a UFC fight no questions asked against a mediocre opponent. Why can't they do the same for Kimbo. At least he has been trainiing hard at MMA.

Both Lesner (pre-Mir of course) and Kimbo are 1/0/0 at MMA, but being honest I was more impressed with Kimbo's skills in his first fight than I was with Lesnar's.

I think Dana is being hypocrital because it seems to have nothing to do with the fighter's skills and everything to do with how much hype and money a fighter will bring to the UFC (eg Lesnar again). At least Kimbo can take a punch in the face. :-)

I see you're point, neither one is proven, but Lesnar is a ways ahead of Kimbo in my view. Lesnar has also been training just as hard with just as good of a camp as Kimbo by the way.

[billyconn]

Here it is...

I called it "The Yetts" out of respect...

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Horrible quality pictures, I know. Back when they were asking me for pics on that thread, I just took the pictures from the screen.... as all of my matches are on regular video tapes.

While we are on it, I will post the others that I still have in my photobucket from that thread. Once again... the pictures are shitty quality.

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Alright, this is the last that I will speak of the "High School days", before the hate patrol comes through and complains about it for another 3 years.:D

ok....

[ufoalf]

Which part is the "Yetts" and what exactly are you doing? Cause i cant really see anything special especially in this quality.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Which part is the "Yetts" and what exactly are you doing? Cause i cant really see anything special especially in this quality.
Yea, sort of hard to tell from that picture I guess.. if you don't know what it is. My right hand is around his back, grabbing his lat on the opposite side. You can see it just below the elbow. I have his arm secured with my left arm, with my head tucked tightly into his shoulder/chest area.

In this case, my opponent tried immediately to circle in the opposite direction, and I locked it in... stuck my right foot up against his left foot, collapsed down putting all of my body weight, and his own force coming back into his upper body, torquing his upper body by the pressure of my upper body coming down against his, while I pull on his lat with the right hand... all while collapsing/torquing my body.... which as you can see caused this particular opponent to be ripped in the complete opposite direction in which he was circling, off of his feet, and he ended up landing on his head/neck/shoulders.... and I pinned him a few seconds later.

Would be much more easy to understand if you saw it in motion. Sorry if that is a little hard to follow... it isn't easy to explain in text over the computer.

[AJAX]

I thought that was a pic of Kos dominating GSP in a wrestling match:yep

[Punisher33]

Kimbo is the real deal, his punching abilty is top notch, he is also a very strong guy as well. If there were more fighters like Kimbo, I would really love watching MMA fights.

[AJAX]

I think you have watched too many kimo street fighting videos...I have seen them all also , as entertaining as some of them can be they don't translate into MMA domination....unless he fights lesser opposition like he has. Tank is a step up from Cantrell but not too much..non the less it should be an entertaining fight....I think.

[Punisher33]

I think you have watched too many kimo street fighting videos...I have seen them all also , as entertaining as some of them can be they don't translate into MMA domination....unless he fights lesser opposition like he has. Tank is a step up from Cantrell but not too much..non the less it should be an entertaining fight....I think. Fair enough, it seems Kimbo takes his training very serious now, unlike his earlier street fighting days. Kimbo is not only exciting, but he would be a tough fight for most fighters in the MMA, I do believe Kimbo will get a chance at a title soon, even if he has to cross over to the UFC to get that shot.

[ufoalf]

Yea, sort of hard to tell from that picture I guess.. if you don't know what it is. My right hand is around his back, grabbing his lat on the opposite side. You can see it just below the elbow. I have his arm secured with my left arm, with my head tucked tightly into his shoulder/chest area.

In this case, my opponent tried immediately to circle in the opposite direction, and I locked it in... stuck my right foot up against his left foot, collapsed down putting all of my body weight, and his own force coming back into his upper body, torquing his upper body by the pressure of my upper body coming down against his, while I pull on his lat with the right hand... all while collapsing/torquing my body.... which as you can see caused this particular opponent to be ripped in the complete opposite direction in which he was circling, off of his feet, and he ended up landing on his head/neck/shoulders.... and I pinned him a few seconds later.

Would be much more easy to understand if you saw it in motion. Sorry if that is a little hard to follow... it isn't easy to explain in text over the computer.

I kinda understand but i really do need to see it in motion to understand. Is there an original name to thin move? Or is it something that this came up with? It looks like a beautiful takedown.

I have trouble understanding how you set it up so that your right arm is all the way around his back and your body basicly behind the left arm(like a Russian arm).

[codeman99998]

I think Tank has a great chance of KOing Kimbo in the first minute... if it lasts more than 2 or 3 minutes though, Kimbo will have the advantage.

Tank will be dangerous as shit for Kimbo for about 60 seconds though.