Is Antonio Tarver a HOF?

[Ray Robinson]

Even if he doesn't win another fight in his career? He's basically made his name off his colossal upset victory of Roy Jones. He is also the two time light heavyweight Champ, and has a decent resume.

I think he is a borderline HOF, maybe not first ballot, but he will get the vote basically on his 2 victories over Roy alone.

What y'all think?

[PolishPummler]

nope

[Shake]

The HoF, in my opinion, accepts too many members. So I don't really care.

[C HOP]

hahahaha no way

he gunna be rememberd for rocky balboa jus like tommy morrison!

[Gonzo]

Hell no!!!! This dude is one of the most overrated fighters ever IMO.

[eze]

No he is not a HOF. But he will be remembered forever for one of the biggest upsets in history of boxing. Knocking out Roy Jones Jr.

[TanstA]

how can you even come up with such a question?

[lucasehr]

I would say emphatically "no." And although it was a big upset, I think that their first fight sort of took some of the shock out of his win. Although obviously Roy was heavily favored and I doubt many were picking such an early KO.

[Punisher33]

I thought about this one just the other day, he beat Jones twice and beat a couple other pretty good fighters as well, I think if he beats another good to great fighter, I feel theres a spot in the hall for the "Legend killer".

[Ray Robinson]

I thought about this one just the other day, he beat Jones twice and beat a couple other pretty good fighters as well, I think if he beats another good to great fighter, I feel theres a spot in the hall for the "Legend killer".

Possibly.

[Tom_Tocca]

Michalzcewski MIGHT be worthy to be elected into the HOF but not Tarver...

[IsaL]

Why Should He?

[Jase2483]

Hell no!!!! This dude is one of the most overrated fighters ever IMO.

^^^^^ :happy:happy:happy:happy

[Ray Robinson]

I don't know why, but this question has been running through my mind lately.

[pasky2000]

He's not even close to being a HOF. He got his lottery ticket with Jones Jr. and that's it ! Boxers need to accomplish much more than that to be considered.....:blood

[Jase2483]

I don't know why, but this question has been running through my mind lately.

I got the itch to make a case of being pro-HOF for Tarver about 6 weeks ago - after watching and getting as much tape on him as I could get.....I didn't see anything that merits it to me. I just dont think he's "that" good......

granted I'm no por-boxer, and could never do the things he does in the ring, I just dont think he's got the resume. Although he may still get in seeing as there are countless people I dont view as HOF worthy already in there

[pasky2000]

If you seriously think of putting Tarver in the HOF...then you might as well consider Glenn Johnson.....ridiculous ! :patsch

[Punisher33]

He beat a hall of famer twice, once by a brutal knockout, I think both him and Jones are the same age too, so both were older when they fought. He has impressive wins over Glen Johnson, Harding, and Griffin as well, which looks to better wins than what Calzaghe has at the moment.

[pasky2000]

To be a HOF you need to accomplish many impressive things in your career that stands out amongst almost every one else ! Winning belts in 3-4 or 5 categories is outstanding ! Making awesome fights with a bunch of pound for pound fighters is special, etc. Not 1 or 2 good wins...

[Jase2483]

He beat a hall of famer twice, once by a brutal knockout, I think both him and Jones are the same age too, so both were older when they fought. He has impressive wins over Glen Johnson, Harding, and Griffin as well, whcih looks to better wins than what Calzaghe has at the moment.

Joe C's resume is weaker than an undergrad trying to land a job that wants 10+ years of professional exp
:good

Not saying Joe didn't fight the best available in HIS weightclass....but never anyone that was *that* good

If he beats hop that will help solidify the case alot

[shelterr]

Nope. But if he gets in Buster Douglas should get in too!

[brooklyn1550]

No

Two wins over a well-past-it Roy Jones, a win over Glen Johnson, and a win over Eric Harding don't add up to hall of fame status in my opinion. Especially when you consider he has losses to all 3 of those fighters as well as a loss to a 41 year old Bernard Hopkins who was moving up 15 pounds.

To become a hall of famer, Tarver would need to beat Woods, Dawson, and likely another title holder to unify three or more belts. But at this stage in his career where he looks to be a shot fighter, the chances of that happening are slim to none.

[cuchulain]

Nope. But if he gets in Buster Douglas should get in too!


Yep. And Hasim Rahma.

Tarver was in the right place at the right time to take down a shot fighter who didn't have the sense to retire when he should have,

Without that singular victory, Tarver is barely notable.

Definitely not HOF material.

[Sweet Pea]

Even if he doesn't win another fight in his career? He's basically made his name off his colossal upset victory of Roy Jones. He is also the two time light heavyweight Champ, and has a decent resume.

I think he is a borderline HOF, maybe not first ballot, but he will get the vote basically on his 2 victories over Roy alone.

What y'all think?Definitely not. As Shake said, they let in too many people, but still, Tarver is not getting in.

[msrkmsr]

U dont become HoF just for upsetting a future HoF....

[See Me Flow]

Nice guy but no hall of famer.

[Sweet Pea]

He beat a hall of famer twice, once by a brutal knockout, I think both him and Jones are the same age too, so both were older when they fought. He has impressive wins over Glen Johnson, Harding, and Griffin as well, which looks to better wins than what Calzaghe has at the moment.Tarver was in his prime when he fought Jones, Jones was past his best when he fought Tarver. People with different styles age differently. Tarver would've gotten smoked against a prime Jones, I don't see how any rational, thinking person sees it any differently, considering what Jones did to Tarver level fighters and above in his prime.

Tarver beats a faded great twice, another fighter who beat a faded great, loses to a past it B-Hop, and he's HOF? I don't think so. The HOF has tane long enough letting in far more deserving fighters, Tarver is not a great, or close to it.

[good right hand]

in todays hall of fame i think he will be inducted,

two jones fights, griffin, harding, glenn johnson and reggie johnson

if they inducted mcguigan, mancini, johanson and zamora

i think he gets in too.

[Punisher33]

Tarver was in his prime when he fought Jones, Jones was past his best when he fought Tarver. People with different styles age differently. Tarver would've gotten smoked against a prime Jones, I don't see how any rational, thinking person sees it any differently, considering what Jones did to Tarver level fighters and above in his prime.

Tarver beats a faded great twice, another fighter who beat a faded great, loses to a past it B-Hop, and he's HOF? I don't think so. The HOF has tane long enough letting in far more deserving fighters, Tarver is not a great, or close to it. I feel Tarvers wins are just as good as a future hall of famer in Calzaghe, the only difference is Tarver has about 15 less wins against weak competition and has lost against a couple good oppenents. That being said, if Calzaghe is a ATG like some already suggested, then Tarver who's not all that far behind resume wise, should at least be in the hall fame.

I just think many overrate guys like Calzaghe, but then underrate guys like Tarver, who have similiar resumes. I think if Tarver beats a Dawson, then I believe he earned the spot IMO.

[doomeddisciple]

I don't think so personally.

He deserves credit for being the first to KO Jones Jnr - I will give him credit there.

If he only lost to Jones Jnr and Nard - It would look better than dropping a fight to Johnson or Harding - That hurts him in my view.

He went 2/2 as the Ring LHW champ - Losses to Johnson and a win, and a RJJ win and a Nard loss.

Going by the thread criteria It's not really the st

But look - Barry McGuigan made it into the hall and he only defended his WBA title twice so I guess anything is possible.

But I wouldn't vote for him if I was receiving a ballot.

[Sweet Pea]

I feel Tarvers wins are just as good as a future hall of famer in Calzaghe, the only difference is Tarver has about 15 less wins against weak competition and has lost against a couple good oppenents. That being said, if Calzaghe is a ATG like some already suggested, then Tarver who's not all that far behind resume wise, should at least be in the hall fame.

I just think many overrate guys like Calzaghe, but then underrate guys like Tarver, who have similiar resumes. I think if Tarver beats a Dawson, then I believe he earned the spot IMO.

The difference between the two is, Calzaghe has been a consistent, dominant fighter for years. Tarver was a B level fighter before catching his break against a faded Jones, where he gave him a good fight in the first, and beat a shot Jones in the next two. The fact that he did lose to Johnson showed his level. He won the Johnson trilogy, and then lost to an old Hopkins, the only A level fighter of the bunch, though Jones was considered one at the time he beat him.

Calzaghe is a much more skilled fighter, a much higher level fighter than Tarver, which is a large part of the reason he is seen so much higher, his ability, rather than resume. His resume is better as well though, and much more consistent, as is his performance.

Calzaghe is no ATG, by the way. He's a great fighter, and immensely skilled, but not an All Time Great at this point due to his lacking resume.

[Symphenyceo]

no!!!!

[brooklyn1550]

If Antonio Tarver got into the IBHOF, it would be an insult to Donald Curry, Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, and Esteban De Jesus.

[Sweet Pea]

If Antonio Tarver got into the Hall of Fame, it would be an insult to Donald Curry and Esteban De Jesus.True, very true, even a guy like Buddy McGirt.

[brooklyn1550]

True, very true, even a guy like Buddy McGirt.

Good call with McGirt

[TFFP]

Every cunt gets in the HOF these days, but this clown certainly shouldn't

I love how people forget about losses on resumes

The sum of his achievements are a decent win over Griffin, a win over Johnson in battle of the zimmerframes, and a win over a completely shot weight drained Jones in battle of the zimmerframes II

Inbetween this he also has losses to both of the latter, a schooling from a 68 year old former middleweight and a loss to Eric Harding

Please NO

[Punisher33]

The difference between the two is, Calzaghe has been a consistent, dominant fighter for years. Tarver was a B level fighter before catching his break against a faded Jones, where he gave him a good fight in the first, and beat a shot Jones in the next two. The fact that he did lose to Johnson showed his level. He won the Johnson trilogy, and then lost to an old Hopkins, the only A level fighter of the bunch, though Jones was considered one at the time he beat him.

Calzaghe is a much more skilled fighter, a much higher level fighter than Tarver, which is a large part of the reason he is seen so much higher, his ability, rather than resume. His resume is better as well though, and much more consistent, as is his performance.

Calzaghe is no ATG, by the way. He's a great fighter, and immensely skilled, but not an All Time Great at this point due to his lacking resume. Thats a fair post, I just think if some people want to consider Calzaghe an ATG, then Tarvers a hall of famer. If tarver beats Dawson, do you think that will be enough to get him the nod or does he have to beat another good fighter to get in the hall?

[victor879]

Not even close.

[Sweet Pea]

Thats a fair post, I just think if some people want to consider Calzaghe an ATG, then Tarvers a hall of famer. If tarver beats Dawson, do you think that will be enough to get him the nod or does he have to beat another good fighter to get in the hall?If he beats Dawson, pigs will fly.

But let's just indulge that big "if" and say he does beat Dawson. Then it would depend on what Dawson went on to accomplish, as he is still young. Though, if Dawson lost to Tarver, I doubt the hype on him would continue.

[Punisher33]

If he beats Dawson, pigs will fly.

But let's just indulge that big "if" and say he does beat Dawson. Then it would depend on what Dawson went on to accomplish, as he is still young. Though, if Dawson lost to Tarver, I doubt the hype on him would continue. Fair enough, but a win over Dawson and say Woods, I feel is enough to get him in the hall, especially if he dominates the both of them, which I doubt will happen.

[TFFP]

If Dawson managed to lose to Tarver, he definitely wouldn't be worth the rave reviews

I've seen Dawson against Adamek and Harding, and no way he loses to this oaf

[Sweet Pea]

Fair enough, but a win over Dawson and say Woods, I feel is enough to get him in the hall, especially if he dominates the both of them, which I doubt will happen.I'd agree, but I also highly doubt it would happen.

[brownpimp88]

I'd agree, but I also highly doubt it would happen.
dwight qawi is in the HOF, is his resume really much better than tarver's?

[Bslice]

Nope not quite famous enough

[michael 901]

nooooooooooooooooo

[cpnasty]

No shot at the hof

[Asterion]

No.

[MacManJr.]

Fuck no!

[PhillyShell]

No. really no.

[Alo2006]

Hell to the no!

[Ray Robinson]

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[bestdefense117]

No Antonio Tarver shouldn't be in the hall of fame. The ledgens he beat belong in a retirement home because they are way past their prime. Plus he got his ass handed to him by Hopkins and since then has not fought anybody worth mentioning. What A Shame.

[Chiko_Tech]

Hell no, you put thisa questino in the wrong site, here on esb we are know as a Tarver hater site so put this question in another site.

[Ray Robinson]

Hell no, you put thisa questino in the wrong site, here on esb we are know as a Tarver hater site so put this question in another site.

:lol:

I am not a huge Tarver fan in particular, just wanted to know what other people's thoughts were.

:rasta

[box_fan_uk]

if Barry McGuigan can get in anyone can imo,

[box_fan_uk]

anyone can apart from Audely

[Thread Stealer]

i don't think he should but i love how people act like there's no chance and he's so undeserving.

have you looked at some of the guys in the hof?