View Full Version : Most Misleading KO Records?
Russell
02-05-2008, 09:36 AM
As in, fighters who aren't as hard hitters as their records suggest, or fighters with far fewer KO's than their real power would lead you to believe.
LaMottoa springs to mind.
Mendoza
02-05-2008, 09:40 AM
As in, fighters who aren't as hard hitters as their records suggest, or fighters with far fewer KO's than their real power would lead you to believe.
LaMottoa springs to mind.
Lamar Clark and Emler Ray. Clark built his KO record on journeyman.
Elmer Ray was a harder puncher, but he really did not knock out many top rated guys at all.
Bert Cooper was a huge puncher, but did not score that many KO's. Oliver McCall says Bert Cooper hit him the hardest.
unitas
02-05-2008, 09:41 AM
Don steele. lots of ko´s ...........zero ability.
buck smith.
Pat_Lowe
02-05-2008, 09:44 AM
Eugene Hart, brutally hard hitter with that left hook, but his chin and overall skill did not match up hence he lost to many of the good fighters he fought. But he is definently up there as one of the harder hitters in history.
Russell
02-12-2008, 08:56 PM
Any stories come to mind about Eugene, Lowe?
Corrie Sander's KO record was kind of misleading. I think he "only" KO'ed 11 of his first 18 oppoenents... Considering he was in shape back then, that power and handspeed...
SteveO
02-12-2008, 09:07 PM
Nicolay Valuev?
mcvey
02-13-2008, 06:15 AM
Carnera ,Lyle and Mac Foster ,Foster never kod a ranked heavyweight.
fists of fury
02-13-2008, 09:34 AM
Alex Stewart. At one point he was 24-0 (24)
He wasn't that big a puncher, although he could hit some.
Polymath
02-13-2008, 11:40 AM
Sammy Peter looked great KO'ing lower level guys, but his power is becoming less and less impressive all the time.
mr. magoo
02-13-2008, 11:53 AM
Some time ago, there was a prospect by the name of Don Steele, who was undefeated 40-0-0-40, but when I checked his comp list, he had mainly fought weak opponents.
OLD FOGEY
02-13-2008, 12:20 PM
Lamar Clark and Emler Ray. Clark built his KO record on journeyman.
Elmer Ray was a harder puncher, but he really did not knock out many top rated guys at all.
Bert Cooper was a huge puncher, but did not score that many KO's. Oliver McCall says Bert Cooper hit him the hardest.
I have to second Clark and Ray. I actually saw Clark fight. He was a swarming mauler with some punch, but I would consider, say, Alex Miteff or Brian London bigger punchers, let alone a real puncher such as Bob Cleroux. Clark never even knocked out a lower-level journeyman. I guess his lingering fame points out the value of puffing up your record against tomato-cans.
Ray was certainly a top level fighter, but about sixty per cent of his fights were against tomato cans with losing records, or few fights, or both, even when a top contender. His only impressive knockout was over Savold. I would rate him behind Turkey Thompson, Lem Franklin, and Savold as a puncher among his contemporaries.
Thread Stealer
02-13-2008, 05:16 PM
shane mosley. he has pop but not an extremely powerful guy as his KO percentage would suggest.
vitali klitschko
sonny liston retired with a very good ko %, but early in his career he didn't score too many kos. if you were to look at his record when he was a contender for instance, you wouldn't think he was as massive a hitter as he really was.
bxrfan
02-13-2008, 05:32 PM
Some time ago, there was a prospect by the name of Don Steele, who was undefeated 40-0-0-40, but when I checked his comp list, he had mainly fought weak opponents.
I don't know what you just wrote because your avatar is just too distracting. :admin
Is that even allowed on this site?
TBooze
02-13-2008, 05:37 PM
No way Slapsie Maxie hit hard enough to have 19 stoppages to his name.;)
Robbi
02-13-2008, 06:32 PM
Roberto Duran at lightweight.
werety
02-13-2008, 08:23 PM
Robbi do you think Duran was more or less powerful than his record suggests? Anyways I would go with Ike Williams for a K.O. record that makes him seem a lot less powerful than he was.
Robbi
02-13-2008, 09:45 PM
Robbi do you think Duran was more or less powerful than his record suggests? Anyways I would go with Ike Williams for a K.O. record that makes him seem a lot less powerful than he was.
Less powerful than his record suggests. Most of the knockouts came down the stretch when fatigue took its toll on Duran's opponents due to his relentless aggression over the course of fight.
Duran does have a brilliant knockout percentage as a lightweight, but he wasn't a chilling puncher who could knock out physically fresh opponents. As I said previously, most of his stoppages were deep into fights.
TBooze
02-14-2008, 04:58 AM
Less powerful than his record suggests. Most of the knockouts came down the stretch when fatigue took its toll on Duran's opponents due to his relentless aggression over the course of fight.
Duran does have a brilliant knockout percentage as a lightweight, but he wasn't a chilling puncher who could knock out physically fresh opponents. As I said previously, most of his stoppages were deep into fights.
Surely that shows you what a brilliant fighter he was, to be able to carry his power into the championship rounds? I suspect Ray Lampkin probably agrees Duran had chilling KO power even late into the fight.
Russell
02-14-2008, 05:26 AM
And Bizarro!
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