Boxings best in a sound-bite

[TBooze]

We live in an era where discussion is considered boring and every politician and company has to keep their message short and sweet; so with that in mind how would you sum up boxings best and/or your favourite fighter in five words or less?

I will start:

Ray Robinson: Boxings best

Riddck Bowe: should of, could of, didn't

Ray Leonard: Great fighter, horrible person

Roberto Duran: The Greatest living fighter

Tommy Hearns: Made non heavyweight boxing exciting

[My dinner with Conteh]

Hearns made non-heavyweight boxing exciting? Non-heavyweight boxing's always been exciting. Nearly all divisions have had scores more exciting fights than the heavyweights. Your average heavyweight contest is dull, very dull.

[TBooze]

Hearns made non-heavyweight boxing exciting? Non-heavyweight boxing's always been exciting. Nearly all divisions have had scores more exciting fights than the heavyweights. Your average heavyweight contest is dull, very dull.

I think I will change that slightly;)

Hearns made non heavyweight boxing popular...

[Duodenum]

I think I will change that slightly;)

Hearns made non heavyweight boxing popular...In the United States at least, it was the success of the 1976 US Olympic boxing team that was really responsible for establishing non heavyweight boxing's popularity from the late 1970s to the end of the 15 round era. That really made fans notice the hitherto overlooked action packed competition in the lighter weight classes. (A level of excitement which is missing today.)

[TBooze]

In the United States at least, it was the success of the 1976 US Olympic boxing team that was really responsible for establishing non heavyweight boxing's popularity from the late 1970s to the end of the 15 round era. That really made fans notice the hitherto overlooked action packed competition in the lighter weight classes. (A level of excitement which is missing today.)

Leonard never did anything for me, Hagler was appreciated, but it was not until Hearns came on and set the boxing world alight, and began his rivalry with the two, that non heavyweight (non British) boxing became mainstream in Britain.

[young griffo]

Evander Holyfield-Warrior's heart
Roy Jones-Unorthodox brilliance
Tommy Hearns-Destructive power
Jeff Fenech-Remorseless aggression
Kostya Tszyu-Cool,calculating,professional
Pernell Whitaker-Virtuosity personified
Mike Tyson-Compelling,train wreck
Floyd Mayweather-Hopefully gets beaten soon

[My dinner with Conteh]

I think I will change that slightly;)

Hearns made non heavyweight boxing popular...


Leonard did actually.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Leonard never did anything for me, Hagler was appreciated, but it was not until Hearns came on and set the boxing world alight, and began his rivalry with the two, that non heavyweight (non British) boxing became mainstream in Britain.



Are you speaking for yourself or the masses?

[heerko koois]

Leonard never did anything for me, Hagler was appreciated, but it was not until Hearns came on and set the boxing world alight, and began his rivalry with the two, that non heavyweight (non British) boxing became mainstream in Britain.

So not true..........:rofl

[My dinner with Conteh]

Yep. Way off the mark.

[TBooze]

Yep. Way off the mark.

I can only speak for myself and the people I know. I have never hidden the fact I loathed Leonard, and indeed nearly everyone I know, who knows boxing will accept Leonard was a great and brilliant at putting himself across in the media (in the 80s) and from what I have heard, he became a darling of the media even in Britain during the Montreal Olympics.

But he did nothing (positive) to turn on the hardcore boxing fans that I knew. Everyone accepted his brilliance, but no one was intrested in watching him unless it was against Tommy, Duran or Hagler, and that was because we were desperate to see him lose.

Hearns/LeonardI and then Hearns/Hagler were the first non British, non Heavyweight fights of the 80s that anyone who knew anything about general sports had an opinion on.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Hearns/LeonardI and then Hearns/Hagler were the first non British, non Heavyweight fights of the 80s that anyone who knew anything about general sports had an opinion on.



Duran-Leonard was.

[TBooze]

Duran-Leonard was.

The hardcore had heard of Duran, but not the mainstream in the UK.

[buzzsaw]

Ali-Greatest punching activist
Arguello-Class defined
Benitez-Undisciplined natural
Ken Buchanan-When Duran II ?
Bobby Chacon-Living for today.
Pipino Cuevas-Mexican tank
Jeff Fenech-Respected any Era.
George Foreman-God’s will.
Bob Foster-Don’t be hate’n.
Joe Frazier-“Down go’s Howard, Down goes…”
Victor Galindez-Galliant thug.
Wilfredo Gomez-Second Little Giant.
Marvelous Marvin Hagler-“I am King”
Sugar Ray Leonard-Ray could see.
Mike McCallum-They ALL knew better.
Ken Norton-Semper Fi Marine!
Carlos Palomino- the 70s Bodysnatcher.
Eusebio Pedroza-aka Snidley Whiplash
Aaron Pryor-“The real thing”
Dwight Muhammad Qawi-Jinxed!
Edwin Rosario-“Mucho Macho”
Matthew Saad Muhammad-“Blood Sweat and Title”
Salvador Sanchez-“Now cracks a noble heart”
Michael Spinks-“He won it all.”
Carlos Zarate-66 w 63 by ko ‘nuff said.

[Jack Dempsey]

Jake LaMotta - Last of his kind

[My dinner with Conteh]

The hardcore had heard of Duran, but not the mainstream in the UK.


So, we're back to Leonard then. Make up your mind. :huh

[TBooze]

So, we're back to Leonard then. Make up your mind. :huh

It was not a mainstream match-up in Britain, we needed Hearns for that.;)

[My dinner with Conteh]

It was not a mainstream match-up in Britain, we needed Hearns for that.;)


Duran vs Leonard II certainly was. Duran was a bigger star than Hearns after that fight. In fact, Leonard vs whoever was mainstream. Hearns vs whoever wasn't. Leonard was clearly the biggest star in boxing until Tyson, you seem to be going from a 'mainstream' point of view to a 'me and my mates' point of view.

[TBooze]

Duran vs Leonard II certainly was. Duran was a bigger star than Hearns after that fight. In fact, Leonard vs whoever was mainstream. Hearns vs whoever wasn't. Leonard was clearly the biggest star in boxing until Tyson, you seem to be going from a 'mainstream' point of view to a 'me and my mates' point of view.

Leonard was not the biggest star, Hagler was clearly (in Britain) the biggest non Heavyweight non British boxer, for five years (one embarrassing performance excluded) Leonard did not even fight!

And of course I have a bias against Leonard, I made that clear from the start.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Leonard was not the biggest star, Hagler was clearly (in Britain) the biggest non Heavyweight non British boxer, for five years (one embarrassing performance excluded) Leonard did not even fight!

And of course I have a bias against Leonard, I made that clear from the start.


Hagler wasn't as big a star as Leonard, it's not a question of bias, you can like who you want, but facts are facts. Hagler was a big star here, bigger than Hearns but not as big as Leonard. Come on.

[TBooze]

Hagler wasn't as big a star as Leonard, it's not a question of bias, you can like who you want, but facts are facts. Hagler was a big star here, bigger than Hearns but not as big as Leonard. Come on.

We will have to disagree then... Blue collar fighters always appealed more to my class and the people I know.

[My dinner with Conteh]

So what's your reasoning behind the De La Hoya worship?

[TBooze]

So what's your reasoning behind the De La Hoya worship?

Do not really like de la Hoya...

[My dinner with Conteh]

Do not really like de la Hoya...


Sorry, must be getting you mixed up with someone. :huh

[TBooze]

Sorry, must be getting you mixed up with someone. :huh

Like Leonard is my #1 fighter of the 80s, de la Hoya was my #1 for the 90s, but my favourite fighters of the 90s were Chavez, Lopez and Holyfield.

[booradley]

Danny Lopez: And Still WBC Feather Weight Champion of the World DANNY "LITTLE RED" LOPEZ!!!"

Marvin Haglar: Demon Possessed

Alexis Arguello: The gentleman warrior

Roberto Duran: Natural born killer

Floyd Mayweather jr: world's most boring millionair


Boo

[My dinner with Conteh]

but my favourite fighters of the 90s were Chavez, Lopez and Holyfield.



Good choices. Mine were Nigel, Evander, Lennox, Yuri Arbachakov and Humberto Gonzalez.