View Full Version : Sylvia would get knocked out against any decent boxer
RonnieHornschuh
02-06-2008, 02:52 PM
teach some decent boxer basic grappling and takedown defense skills and put him in the ring with sylvia and you have a sure knockout. sylvia's boxing skills are pretty awful, he is slow and doesn't put his weight behind his shots. the boxer wouldn't have any problems because of his lacking ground skills because sylvia prefers to stand up anyway. different story with the other fighters like mir or noguera but sylvia would get owned.
BewareofDawg
02-06-2008, 03:06 PM
Wlad would KHTFO, and I'm convinced of it. I think he would beat him in an MMA match as well. Give Wlad a good year to develop some skills and Sylvia would be in serious trouble. Nog, Fedor, Couture and others would own Wlad in the Octagon though.
RonnieHornschuh
02-06-2008, 03:23 PM
Wlad would KHTFO, and I'm convinced of it. I think he would beat him in an MMA match as well. Give Wlad a good year to develop some skills and Sylvia would be in serious trouble. Nog, Fedor, Couture and others would own Wlad in the Octagon though.
i agree with you, of course a boxer has no chance against fedor in an mma match. but any half decent boxer could become ufc champ by knocking sylvia out who prefers to keep it standing and doesn't throw kicks. it just upset me a little bit watching sylvia get so far with such bad skills.
Jase2483
02-06-2008, 03:30 PM
sylvia would get rocked
even if you give him a weight advantage....he'll get dropped by anyone within 20lbs of him thats a well trained and talented fighter
and with 4 ounce glove - i dont want to see his face afterwards
Dostoevsky
02-06-2008, 03:48 PM
Wlad would decimate him. But Sylvia has legitimate power, Arlovski looks to have great fundamental boxing skills and he got KTFO. And AA's chin isn't the best but neither is Wlad's.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
02-06-2008, 03:51 PM
i agree with you, of course a boxer has no chance against fedor in an mma match. but any half decent boxer could become ufc champ by knocking sylvia out who prefers to keep it standing and doesn't throw kicks. it just upset me a little bit watching sylvia get so far with such bad skills.
Well... they couldn't become Champ by knocking Tim out, because Tim isn't champ.
codeman99998
02-06-2008, 04:39 PM
Also, Tim would probably beat them in the clinch, possibly trying to take them down in the clinch.
Look, I understand Tim isn't a ju jitsu specialist or a great wrestler, but I am sure he has the skills to use those disciplines against a fighter that he knows is a much better striker.
Chuck Lidell wouldn't try to outbox Antonio Tarver just because he outstrikes his MMA competition after all...
BewareofDawg
02-06-2008, 04:59 PM
Also, Tim would probably beat them in the clinch, possibly trying to take them down in the clinch.
Look, I understand Tim isn't a ju jitsu specialist or a great wrestler, but I am sure he has the skills to use those disciplines against a fighter that he knows is a much better striker.
Chuck Lidell wouldn't try to outbox Antonio Tarver just because he outstrikes his MMA competition after all...
Chuck lidell is much quicker and more agile then Sylvia. I am just assuming that Tim would be way too slow for the takedown on Wlad, and I said after 1 year of training for Klit....not right now. I think the discrepancy in striking would be so great that it would overwhelm Tim.
Beebs
02-06-2008, 06:42 PM
Sylvia takes them down, he comes from a smart camp that always instills good takedowns in their fighters.
Sylvia takes them down and pounds them out.
Sylvia's ground game sucks terribly, but it's still better than your run-of-the mill boxer's ground game. Like mentioned above, he gets that thing to the mat and wins it. Get a boxer with a decent takedown defense though, and yeah, Sylvia gets laid out. His weak little jab isn't going to keep anyone away, and I think his power is seriously overrated. I sure wouldn't want to take his punch, but he throws with his arm. He could generate twice the power he does now if his technique didn't suck so much.
Dostoevsky
02-06-2008, 09:04 PM
Sylvia probably has the stiffest legs I've ever seen on anyone, he's worse than Vitali.
I could see him employ a Brandon Vera style strategy on a boxer. Wlad blows him out for sure. It would be a Aleksander-Morais style beatdown.
jimmie
02-07-2008, 04:56 AM
Who cares really ? Tim Sylvia isnt a boxer he just uses that style cause it suits his size and skill set and u know what ? Its worked hes put Ricco Rodriguez and Andrei Arlovski to sleep to win Heavyweight Championships. Thats pretty dam impressive for a awful fighter as hes called.
dwilson
02-07-2008, 06:27 AM
All good but china chin Wlad is always open getting ko'd no matter where the fight is at.
RonnieHornschuh
02-07-2008, 08:51 AM
All good but china chin Wlad is always open getting ko'd no matter where the fight is at.
first of all it's not really china. he has never been ko'd only tko'd. he wasn't unconscious for 3 minutes like maskaev. plus he would never get hit with anything significant by such a poor boxer like sylvia.
dwilson
02-07-2008, 09:10 AM
first of all it's not really china. he has never been ko'd only tko'd. he wasn't unconscious for 3 minutes like maskaev. plus he would never get hit with anything significant by such a poor boxer like sylvia.
When hit he cry.
He is obviously a far better boxer than Sylvia and is rated number one in the world but with a 4oz glove he would get ko'd just putting them on.
BewareofDawg
02-07-2008, 09:21 AM
When hit he cry.
He is obviously a far better boxer than Sylvia and is rated number one in the world but with a 4oz glove he would get ko'd just putting them on.
And Sylvia go dropped by Alrovskis right hand, what do you think Wlads would do to him. Consider this, Wlad has better footwork, quicker hands, a better jab and is much more adapt to keeping distance for him to land his shots. We know Sylvia has a suspect chin because Andrei dropped him, even if Wlads chin was made of egg shell.....how is Sylvia going to hit him without being hit first? :think
Wilhelm
02-07-2008, 11:53 AM
Wlad beats Sylvia brutally 100/100 in a boxing match, Sylvia beats Wlad 95/100 in an MMA match. Does anyone think that Wlad can learn in a year what Sylvia has been learning for ten? Just being a great athlete doesn’t mean you can pick up take-down defense and ground fighting quickly. Ask Johnny Morton, Pete Spratt etc. What would Sylvia be doing for that year anyway other than improving his takedowns? Come on folks, it’s a different game. I’m not sure how much to make of Wlad’s kickboxing experience, but if it was the sort that didn’t allow leg kicks then he’d have hell to deal with from those as well.
dwilson
02-08-2008, 05:35 AM
And Sylvia go dropped by Alrovskis right hand, what do you think Wlads would do to him. Consider this, Wlad has better footwork, quicker hands, a better jab and is much more adapt to keeping distance for him to land his shots. We know Sylvia has a suspect chin because Andrei dropped him, even if Wlads chin was made of egg shell.....how is Sylvia going to hit him without being hit first? :think
I am not saying Wlad is not a great boxer and deserved number 1 heavey weight and I am not saying he has not got huge power and a terrific dangerous jab but the fact still remains that when he gets tagged he implodes. You can make the argument that any top rated boxing world belt holder would do a serious number on an MMA champ guy before anything but boxing skills came into contention but in reality the fight would take a different course. Wlad's chin looks shaky in boxing, it would be awful in the world of lucky punches mma.
Sundance
02-10-2008, 08:41 AM
Wlad's far and away the best heavyweight boxer on the planet so I suspect Sylvia, who has limited ground skills, would be despatched viciously.
Wilhelm
02-10-2008, 09:53 AM
Wlad's far and away the best heavyweight boxer on the planet so I suspect Sylvia, who has limited ground skills, would be despatched viciously.
"Limited" agianst guys like Couture and Mir maybe, but he's worlds ahead of Wlad. How long would Wlad last on the ground with Couture? How long did Sylvia last? Like I said, in boxing Wlad wins 100/100 by brutal KO and in MMA Sylvia wins at least 95/100 by sub.
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