Brit fighter that wont make it big in 08?

[dwilson]

Lot's of hype around at the moment regarding the success of British boxing and the good times look to be getting better but which hot prospect do you feel will have the least impact during 08. Which heavily hyped or talked about boxer do you think will do little to impress and still be the same position at the end of the year as they were at the start. For any given boxer give your reason/s.

Granted we are talking about the level's the boxer mentioned is talked about achieveing such as Fewkes and Appleby are not expected to be world challengers but may get on the british scene.

[Haye]

Froch will struggle to get past Inkin, but thats wishful thinking to a degree.

[robpalmer135]

Alex Arthur will loose to Joan Guzman pretty badly, and Woods will loose to Tarver and probably retire.

[jc]

Scott Harrison...

[jc]

Arthur will lose but i dont think many are saying he will win so I dont think that really counts!

[robpalmer135]

Oh wait Jamie Moore, Moore is gonna get dicked on as soon as he steps up to World Class bank on that!

[GazOC]

Haye, he may well beat Enzo but he's too sloppy/ chinny to do much at HW. Granted, he may not get found out in 2008...but def. in 2009.

[stuey]

witter drops a decision to hopkins:think

[kurt2006]

AAA going to get smashed up by Guzman (assuming the fight takes place, which I doubt).

[stake501]

romanov to beat khan

[Dunky McCafferty]

OK. How is this for a prediction. Joe Calzaghe to lose on points to Bernard Hopkins.
Im sorry folks, but I think Calzaghe doesnt know what hes let himself in for here. & sadly, I think hes let himself in for a defeat! Hopkins is a NIGHTMARE to fight, & Joes walked into a trap by going overseas to fight this wily old dog.
I said when Calzaghe beat Kessler he should retire while he was on top, but as usual money talks & Joe is going over to America. Bad call. Cos if a 43 year old fighter beats him? It totally fucks up Joes legacy. & thats the thing. Hopkins might be old, but hes one of a rare breed that doesnt show it in the ring...
A high risk, low reward fight for Joe. & I think hes made a huge mistake. He should have fought anyone BUT Hopkins on his american debut.

[GazOC]

You can take Calzaghe on points all the way to the bank IMHO. Its the closest to a sure thing you can get in boxing....

[Dunky McCafferty]

You can take Calzaghe on points all the way to the bank IMHO. Its the closest to a sure thing you can get in boxing....

How you doin gaz my good man.

Did you watch Hopkins last fight?

[GazOC]

Hi Dunky, how are you mate?

Yep I did, Wright was a ATG (IMHO) 154lb fighter but I wasn't impressed with what Hopkins did with him at 175. Over the last 4 or 5 years the only perfomance thats made me look twice was the Tarver win, although I thought he was unlucky against Taylor.

[kerrminator]

Im in agreement with you Dunky.

I've thought for quite some time now that B-Hop will manage to grind out a win against JC but I've never really had the bottle to say it on a british forum lol. Hopkins as you say is a nightmare to fight and he knows all the tricks in the book, he has an uncanny knack of being able to nick rounds with his akward, ugly style and I reckon even though he is not getting any younger he has looked a far better boxer since moving up in weight.

[GazOC]

Im in agreement with you Dunky.

I've thought for quite some time now that B-Hop will manage to grind out a win against JC but I've never really had the bottle to say it on a british forum lol.

Hey! We don't bite....;)

[Dunky McCafferty]

Hi Dunky, how are you mate?

Yep I did, Wright was a ATG (IMHO) 154lb fighter but I wasn't impressed with what Hopkins did with him at 175. Over the last 4 or 5 years the only perfomance thats made me look twice was the Tarver win, although I thought he was unlucky against Taylor.

You werent impressed with Hopkins performance against Winky? Im suprised. Only cos I was impressed. However, you know I respect you as a poster & value your opinion Gaz, so your post has been taken aboard. We will see who is right on the night:D

[GazOC]

Cheers Dunky, maybe I'm being a little harsh but I feel that Wright was over the hill and nearly 2 stone over his best fighting weight for that fight, Andy Lees management seem to agree with me though....;O)

[Dunky McCafferty]

Im in agreement with you Dunky.

I've thought for quite some time now that B-Hop will manage to grind out a win against JC but I've never really had the bottle to say it on a british forum lol. Hopkins as you say is a nightmare to fight and he knows all the tricks in the book, he has an uncanny knack of being able to nick rounds with his akward, ugly style and I reckon even though he is not getting any younger he has looked a far better boxer since moving up in weight.

Thats good to know kerrminator my no1 forum pal:good always a pleasure to hear frommy oldest & bestest ally. I have been kind of the same to be honest! But as some of the punks on the thread couldnt get in there quick enough to do some hating on AAA & Scotty,I thought "fuck it, time to post my honest feelings on this Calzaghe fight"

Cos its been on my mind for a while, but I thought if I came in & picked BHOP, everyone would just think I was shit-stirring. Thats how out of control the Calzaghe hype has got, hes kinda replaced Hatton as the darling of the british fight fans since Hatton lost. They need a new hero, & Calzaghe fits the bill. Funny how our fighters are never 'darlings' of the UK. eh mate?
Calzaghe though at least can back it up. Hes a class act. HOWEVER, as you say Hopkins wins ugly, but hes turned winning ugly into an artform:D
& I should know, as Im a big fan! But dont tell anyone here, they like to think Im an ignorant jock who doesnt watch anything but Scotty & Arthur fights;)

[GazOC]

How the hell has Dunky turned the Calzaghe-Hopkins fight, a Welshman versus a Yank, into a "Everyone hates me 'cos I'm Scottish' issue???;)

[Dunky McCafferty]

Cheers Dunky, maybe I'm being a little harsh but I feel that Wright was over the hill and nearly 2 stone over his best fighting weight for that fight, Andy Lees management seem to agree with me though....;O)

Not at all. You know your boxing mate, & thats that. Maybe I look on Hopkins wins with rose tinted spectacles as I have always loved watching him, hes so old school that I almost feel Im watching a past great fighting, hes one of the fighters I would love to meet, just to tell him how great he was!
So there is an element of favouritism in my original post:deal

[Dunky McCafferty]

How the hell has Dunky turned the Calzaghe-Hopkins fight, a Welshman versus a Yank, into a "Everyone hates me 'cos I'm Scottish' issue???;)

aah, so thats how you repay a compliment is it gaz?

I got your card marked pal:D

[GazOC]

Not at all. You know your boxing mate, & thats that. Maybe I look on Hopkins wins with rose tinted spectacles as I have always loved watching him, hes so old school that I almost feel Im watching a past great fighting, hes one of the fighters I would love to meet, just to tell him how great he was!
So there is an element of favouritism in my original post:deal

I know what you mean, like Toney used to be. As you know Hopkins was at the Hatton-Mayweather weigh-in, he really played up to the crowd. Pure pantomime. Funny as fuck!!:good

[GazOC]

aah, so thats how you repay a compliment is it gaz?

I got your card marked pal:D

Just kiddin' mate...:D

[Dunky McCafferty]

Just kiddin' mate...:D

No worries GazOC. If yer wondering why I had a wee conversation with Kerrminator like that(you probably wont be but I will tell you anyway;) ) its because hes one of my oldest & dearest allies, him & I defended Scotty resolutely on assorted forums & we copped some serious abuse. So hes an old pal, & thats why I got my wee dig in about us jocks never being flavour of the month!
Its funny how times change though, & absence makes the heart grow fonder. I almost cant believe my eyes when so many come in with nice things to say about Scotty now, just cos hes been away so long they have forgotten how much they hated him in the first place! Now Arthur is the new whipping boy, & as a vet on here, I watch & take it all in. & I reach certain conclusions. You know me, my cynical mind is always working overtime!

Anyway, thats neither here nor there, but you were in the right place at the right time to cop a heartfelt Dunky post. Its your own fault for indulging me! Anyway, I wont bother you anymore. Enjoy the rest of your mornings posting my good man.

[johnny5]

Arthur and maybe Witter

[PrideOfWales]

Dunky, kerrminator... What chance do you think there is of Enzo Calzaghe's three best boxers [Rees being the third] all having loses on their record by the end of April?

[GazOC]

I quite fancy Enzo to beat Haye, Rees is on borrowed time but I think JC will beat Hopkins pretty convincingly.

I'll give you 5/1 if you fancy a flutter...

[PrideOfWales]

It's an interesting proposition but I'll never back against Joe Calzaghe, it goes against all I've ever stood for! I don't buy into the Enzo Calzaghe is a genious notion though. Rees is unproven yet undefeated and Enzo (Mac) hasn't lost since relevance came into it.

I think a lot of people would take 5/1 though

[GazOC]

I figure Rees will probably lose, Enzo has a decent chance against Haye and JC will def. beat Hopkins. So 5/1 is a fair bet I reckon, I only need one win out of the two and maybe Rees will get lucky?

[Dunky McCafferty]

Dunky, kerrminator... What chance do you think there is of Enzo Calzaghe's three best boxers [Rees being the third] all having loses on their record by the end of April?

Now theres a question...
Its a big year for welsh boxing, no doubt. I think Calzaghe has made the mistake of his life at the age he is going to America to fight Hopkins. Hes an age-defying get-in-your-head dirty tricks, hard to hit fighter who has done it all. Thats why I think Calzaghe has fucked up, cos if he just retired after Kessler with all the belts & an unbeaten record, he would have gone down as a true great in british boxing. However, to put all that on the line to fight Hopkins in his hometown? Big gamble that could backfire, especially as Goldenboy have a reputation for dodgy decisions.
Massive risk- minimum prestige fight for Joe as if he beats Bhop? everyone will say, so what, he was 43! & If Joe gets beat? That same thing is going to be used as a stick to beat Calzaghes legacy with, & many will turn Calzaghe into a joke(not me though) if Joe loses. Silly, silly fight to take. I cant emphasise that enough.

Right enough, I must admit I was in my pals watching the Olusegun fight earlier on & he showed me some recent footage of Joes padwork, & I must admit, he looked fuckin amazing. So maybe I will be totally wrong, & guys like GazOC will be right when they say this is an easy fight for Joe. It wouldnt be the first time I have underestimated Calzaghe!

As for Enzo Macarinelli, Im swaying on this one too. I was of the opinion a couple of weeks ago that Haye in front of his home fans is going to win, & win big. But now Im not so sure. I was picking haye to win, cos of his freakish speed for a man of his size. Two big men, both big hitters, with dodgy whiskers, its who lands first, & Haye is always going to land first. Hes just too fast. However, I have been thinking about Enzo, & Im not so sure he does in fact have a suspect chin. Haye has, no doubt. But Enzo? Since he was beat early in his career his chin has looked solid, & hes took some shots from big punchers like Braithwaite & Hobson & walked through it. Also, Enzo can fight hard for 12 rounds, whereas Haye always seems to tire & have to take breathers. & as he is tight at the weight, Im going to change my prediction & go for a Macarinelli shock victory.

& finally Rees, I just dont rate the guy. I think he will be beaten by the first guy who comes to win, & if Kotelnik uses his jab & just boxes on the outside that should be enough. Its really that simple.

Sorry for the long answer, especially as I couldnt properly answer your question!

But I will be rooting for macarinelli to pull of the win, especially as he likes Scotty Harrison & comes out to that cool Tom Petty tune:good & any man who wants to be a pimp like Haye? Its been so overdone since Snoop Dog made it trendy that he deserves an asswhupping!