Classy Khan can be a 3 weight champion

[kurt2006]

According to Barry McGuigan in todays Daily Mirror (not online yet ) Khan can go on to become a 3 weight champion.

He says Khans body fat % is down to 4.77% and this means he has not got long at 135lb limit. Suggests Romanov then straight to David Diaz. In 18 months move up to light welter.

[dan-b]

McGuigan has just become a PR man for Sports Network. What a joke.

[kurt2006]

McGuigan has just become a PR man for Sports Network. What a joke.

He certainly has even says "...if the defence is poor, hands down, chin up, feet all wrong, then any decent boxer can knock you over" .

True but there is a difference between knocking someone over like what hapened to Naz a few times (but he was up in a few seconds and never looked as if his legs had gone) and what Limmond did to Khan.

There goes the theory on some boxers having better whiskers than others. He mentions Khan eclipsing Naz's achievement :lol:.

[Claypole]

Poor old Barry, reduced to the Mirror and talking shit to Jim Rosenthal. If things get any worse he'll be announcing a comeback.

[dan-b]

Amir Khan vs Barry McGuigan - When The Tomato Khans Run Out

:rofl


Seriously though this is really bad. Sports Network have British boxing at their mercy & I don't like it. People slag off GBP but at least they are providing quality match ups on the whole as oppsosed to ******'s approach which is designed to simply line his pockets whilst fooling the public for as long as possible.

[kurt2006]

:rofl


Seriously though this is really bad. Sports Network have British boxing at their mercy & I don't like it. People slag off GBP but at least they are providing quality match ups on the whole as oppsosed to ******'s approach which is designed to simply line his pockets whilst fooling the public for as long as possible.

****** gets away with it as people like McGuigan are happy to sing the praises of his fighters.

The average viewer knows very little about boxing. Last week I was told that St Clair was a ferocious former world champion and Khan had proved he could beat any champion out there. It is the same reason that people accept the WBU fights as being world title fights.

Its a shame that fighters like Haye get very little publicity or write ups in the British press.

[robpalmer135]

Wasnt there 2 minutes left of the round.............so he clearly wasnt in that much trouble, and he got hit again 3 or 4 times clean.

FOR FUCK SAKE LIMMOND SUCKER PUNCHED HIM! CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE!

[dan-b]

Wasnt there 2 minutes left of the round.............so he clearly wasnt in that much trouble, and he got hit again 3 or 4 times clean.

FOR FUCK SAKE LIMMOND SUCKER PUNCHED HIM! CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE!

I think peoples points are that it may just be a touch early to declare Khan a future 3 weight great. Do you not agree?

[robpalmer135]

So why not at the end don't people admit he is the biggest prospect we have had since Hammed! He does have genuine world class potential. Im sure if you read the article McGuigan says he has the POTENTIAL to be a 3 weight world champ which he does, i could even see him and LM/W.

Oh and i have watched the Limond fight time and time again, theres no way the ref can start the count unitl 2.02 secs into round 6, Khan is up and ready to go at 1.53 of the 6th and hangs in there. Every time peiople talk about the fight they never mention that Khan rips the shit out of him for the next 3 rounds!

[robpalmer135]

You have less fights at a heavier weight! In 21 fights Khan will be at the level Haye is currently at, and still undefeated.

Oh and the bad things about Haye, poor defence and shakey chin, are the same as Khan. And the good things about khan, Fast, Big Puncher, Technicly excelent, accuarte are the same as Haye.

[dan-b]

There's a perfect example: David Haye who has done much more in his 21 fights, with a good amateur career (without medals and such though), is charming, handsome, consistently entertaining and has just become undisputed champion in his division. In 21 fights.

Undisputed. in 21 fights. And a natural star. yet, because he's not so hypeable, almost no press.

I'm fucking sick of it. let's start a Haye over Khan campaign.

Well said. I can just imagine Haye going on to win a heavyweight belt & Khan will still be getting all the plaudits for fighting some blown up super featherweight in Bolton.

So why not at the end don't people admit he is the biggest prospect we have had since Hammed! He does have genuine world class potential. Im sure if you read the article McGuigan says he has the POTENTIAL to be a 3 weight world champ which he does, i could even see him and LM/W.

Oh and i have watched the Limond fight time and time again, theres no way the ref can start the count unitl 2.02 secs into round 6, Khan is up and ready to go at 1.53 of the 6th and hangs in there. Every time peiople talk about the fight they never mention that Khan rips the shit out of him for the next 3 rounds!

Do you not think we've had any big prospects since Hamed then?

[robpalmer135]

Yeh the hype is to much, but its not Khans fault. Thats how this country works, look at England before world cup 2006. We hype stuff up.

What do you want Khan to do say no thanks to making millions and being a star, go sign with Hobson and fight on Clinton Woods undercards once a year agaisnt worse oposition and have only 3 people in Bolton ever hear of him????

Fact Khan can still be amateurish, his chin is still questionable.

Fact Khan is the best prospect we have had for years, he is potentially world class, ESPN who are not in the uk said the same. He is fast and stong, mentally tough enough and had more technical skill than Mitchell, Murray or any other prospect put together! Oh he is also "charming, handsome, consistently entertaining" like Haye and the people he has been pout in with so far have been very good for 16 fights!

[robpalmer135]

well probably Haye. im talking top 10 p4p which Haye and Khan can be (calzaghe had already come through by then) and i think Hatton was well marketed and put in the right fights at the right time.

if khan had never won the medal, fought his first 10 fights quietly and then started getting noticed for his last 6, people would be getting bonas on here before every fight saying hes the next sugar ray clay joens jnr (wait we got one already lol)

[scott is cool]

Khan has his faults yes, but people have not even mentioned his strengths, his speed is absolute phenominal. Most of you here are just looking pathetic, nit picking at his faults, when he has so much talent, you all forget he is only 21. And keep talking about when he was dropped by Limmond once, which happend almost a year ago, and since then his defence has improve, a blind man can see that, his defence is still not perfect yet, but is improving. A lot of people in this thread, appear to me to be quite sad, because they can't see through his hype, and can't see that he is generally a brilliant talent. It's quite pathetic, to be honest.

[dan-b]

well probably Haye. im talking top 10 p4p which Haye and Khan can be (calzaghe had already come through by then) and i think Hatton was well marketed and put in the right fights at the right time.

Jury is out on Khan yet. Sick of hearing about him to be honest. I'm going to do my best to ignore anything I see or hear about him except for the time he spends in the ring.

[robpalmer135]

no because he is saying he has the potential to be!

Look McGuigan has a personal intrest in Khan, everytime khan fights McGuigan picks up £5,000 to say he done well, if he says hes no good they wont put him on. so you cant really listen to his opinion.

But there are no boxing writers that would disagree that he doesnt have the potential to get to that level.

i think he will be a 4 weight world champ and in 10 years il be on here laughing! thats my opinion and thats why i come on here, to express is cos only one of my mates like boxing!

[dan-b]

And he needs to shut the fuck up.

Absolutely. Its his mouth that makes me want to see him knocked out. Why cant people go about with a bit of quiet dignity anymore? I guess it's part of the whole celebrity, OK magazine, big brother, champagne swigging, gangsta culture we have created.

[robpalmer135]

HE IS AS COCKY AS ANY OTHER BOXER TO, HE ONLY RESPONDS WHEN PEOPLE CALL HIM OUT!!!!!!!

i am going to play football, continue this later!

[scott is cool]

HE IS AS COCKY AS ANY OTHER BOXER TO, HE ONLY RESPONDS WHEN PEOPLE CALL HIM OUT!!!!!!!

i am going to play football, continue this later!

Oh nice one, can I come? I'll pretend to be Gerrard or maybe Torres, unless you put me in goal, then I will pretend that I am Pepe Reina, who looks a little but like Kelly Pavlik. :blood

[dan-b]

Oh, just saying "no, no, no" to every point made is not an argument.

I do not expect him to not embrace his fame - he should, but the boy can barely speak without stammering through a sentence.

He is overly cocky for what he has done so far. As if beating Earl proved anything.

Or saying "ya know what I mean?".:lol:

r_PVmy1hCbk

[w4s1m]

Yeh the hype is to much, but its not Khans fault. Thats how this country works, look at England before world cup 2006. We hype stuff up.

What do you want Khan to do say no thanks to making millions and being a star, go sign with Hobson and fight on Clinton Woods undercards once a year agaisnt worse oposition and have only 3 people in Bolton ever hear of him????

Fact Khan can still be amateurish, his chin is still questionable.

Fact Khan is the best prospect we have had for years, he is potentially world class, ESPN who are not in the uk said the same. He is fast and stong, mentally tough enough and had more technical skill than Mitchell, Murray or any other prospect put together! Oh he is also "charming, handsome, consistently entertaining" like Haye and the people he has been pout in with so far have been very good for 16 fights!

:thumbsup i agree with u on this. i dont understand myself where all this hatred stems from for Khan. Every interview he has, people will pick things out and diss him, i just think alot of people are jealous of him that he is making very good money

[w4s1m]

Or saying "ya know what I mean?".:lol:

r_PVmy1hCbk

thats the lingo some of the bolton boys speak.

[dan-b]

:thumbsup i agree with u on this. i dont understand myself where all this hatred stems from for Khan. Every interview he has, people will pick things out and diss him, i just think alot of people are jealous of him that he is making very good money

Oh the jealousy argument is so old. How about some of us are real boxing fans who don't like the way Khan is taking a kings ransom for fighting blown up super featherweights while ****** fools the public & has British boxing at his mercy. Meanwhile more deserving fighters fall by the wayside.

[w4s1m]

Oh the jealousy argument is so old. How about some of us are real boxing fans who don't like the way Khan is taking a kings ransom for fighting blown up super featherweights while ****** fools the public & has British boxing at his mercy. Meanwhile more deserving fighters fall by the wayside.

listen if someone was offering u big $$$ to do your job, u wouldnt refuse so why should have to take stick coz he is making big $$$. like it or not Amir Khan Is a brand name and he will be in the public eye for along time yet so u gonna have to get used it

[kurt2006]

Oh the jealousy argument is so old. How about some of us are real boxing fans who don't like the way Khan is taking a kings ransom for fighting blown up super featherweights while ****** fools the public & has British boxing at his mercy. Meanwhile more deserving fighters fall by the wayside.

Spot on lots of hard working decent pros never make in a lifetime what Khan makes for 1 fight.

It is time they put up or shit up with Khan, was he not saying a few fights back that he was ready for a world title shot ? Well let FW put him in with one of the Diaz and l would love it if his gravy train got derailed.

Yes Khan has speed but most his punches last week were just pitta patta no power punches.

[dan-b]

listen if someone was offering u big $$$ to do your job, u wouldnt refuse so why should have to take stick coz he is making big $$$. like it or not Amir Khan Is a brand name and he will be in the public eye for along time yet so u gonna have to get used it

No but he could try keeping his mouth shut every once in a while. That doesn't cost anything. As for being in the public eye we'll see about that, if he gets exposed he'll be tomorrows chip paper.:good

[w4s1m]

Oh the jealousy argument is so old. How about some of us are real boxing fans who don't like the way Khan is taking a kings ransom for fighting blown up super featherweights while ****** fools the public & has British boxing at his mercy. Meanwhile more deserving fighters fall by the wayside.

ofcourse it is jealousy, i dont see anyother boxer recieving the abuse that Amir does on here, look i know it has been said many times and people like u have probably denied it but i do think that it is to do with his colour coz all boxers chat it but when Amir does he gets abused for doing so.

who he evere fights will have been hand picked according to ESB

[kurt2006]

listen if someone was offering u big $$$ to do your job, u wouldnt refuse so why should have to take stick coz he is making big $$$. like it or not Amir Khan Is a brand name and he will be in the public eye for along time yet so u gonna have to get used it


Wazza, can you not read ? AAA has had plenty of stick. JC had plenty until he destroyed Lacy then Kessler. I doubt you can remember but there used to be a wrestler on ITV wrestling called Big Daddy, he always had the public behind him and won every fight. The reason he won is because he was bigger than everyone else and he was good at courting publicity. Khan is the Big Daddy of ITV, beats small opponents and gets good publicity.

As soon as he is put in with a decent LW he will be blown out the water. But ****** will not do that as like you he sees Amir as a brand and will do everything to capitalise on the value of that brand for as long as possible. The public will never see him fighting against a half decent LW as he will be easily exposed. As for moving up weights his power is not that extraordinary at LW so I doubt he will have much success at the heavier weights.

[dan-b]

Spot on lots of hard working decent pros never make in a lifetime what Khan makes for 1 fight.

It is time they put up or shit up with Khan, was he not saying a few fights back that he was ready for a world title shot ? Well let FW put him in with one of the Diaz and l would love it if his gravy train got derailed.

Yes Khan has speed but most his punches last week were just pitta patta no power punches.

****** is waiting for the WBO to strip Diaz so Khan can fight for a vacant title against an easier opponent. Before anyone chimes in & says Katsidis is not an easy opponent it won't be Katsidis because he'll be signing to fight Casamayor so will lose his ranking with the WBO. Khan will get to fight Kristjansen for the vacant belt & we'll be told he's the youngest world champ etc. It's so predictable it makes me sick. ****** & the fucking WBO.

[w4s1m]

No but he could try keeping his mouth shut every once in a while. That doesn't cost anything. As for being in the public eye we'll see about that, if he gets exposed he'll be tomorrows chip paper.:good

Like someone has already said that people allways ask amir stuff and he just responds,

what do u want amir to do when every british boxer want to fight him, even reece was spouting shit yesterday and that he wants a peice of him even

[dan-b]

ofcourse it is jealousy, i dont see anyother boxer recieving the abuse that Amir does on here, look i know it has been said many times and people like u have probably denied it but i do think that it is to do with his colour coz all boxers chat it but when Amir does he gets abused for doing so.

who he evere fights will have been hand picked according to ESB

I give Carl Froch just as much abuse as Khan so you are wrong.:hi:

[dan-b]

Like someone has already said that people allways ask amir stuff and he just responds,

what do u want amir to do when every british boxer want to fight him, even reece was spouting shit yesterday and that he wants a peice of him even

Don't try & be a crusader this is a boxing forum.;)

The irony of all this is that in a thread the other day I was accused of being biased towards Muslim fighters.

[kurt2006]

****** is waiting for the WBO to strip Diaz so Khan can fight for a vacant title against an easier opponent. Before anyone chimes in & says Katsidis is not an easy opponent it won't be Katsidis because he'll be signing to fight Casamayor so will lose his ranking with the WBO. Khan will get to fight Kristjansen for the vacant belt & we'll be told he's the youngest world champ etc. It's so predictable it makes me sick. ****** & the fucking WBO.

I think Katsidis is already signed to fight Casamayor or they have some form of provisional agreement. Looks like frank will be on the phone to his bum-chums at the WBO and geting Khan to fight some straw-weight for the WBO LW title.

[w4s1m]

Wazza, can you not read ? AAA has had plenty of stick. JC had plenty until he destroyed Lacy then Kessler.

As soon as he is put in with a decent LW he will be blown out the water. But ****** will not do that as like you he sees Amir as a brand and will do everything to capitalise on the value of that brand for as long as possible. The public will never see him fighting against a half decent LW as he will be easily exposed. As for moving up weights his power is not that extraordinary at LW so I doubt he will have much success at the heavier weights.

his power will come and remember he is only 21 not 25 or 26.

i swear i remember readng posts on here last year that after the Limond fight people were saying That Amir would have got stopped if he had been in with Earl and this was even after the Kasitdas had hamered him and there wernt no people at that time saying that Earl was shot, but when he stepped in with Amir he shot to bits.

u know thats bull man the abuse Amir gets on here is way OTT. what he ever does will be abuse,

[kurt2006]

Like someone has already said that people allways ask amir stuff and he just responds,

what do u want amir to do when every british boxer want to fight him, even reece was spouting shit yesterday and that he wants a peice of him even

Well sometimes he talks shit. Trying to gloss over the fact he is fighting smaller people and claiming they are world class fighter. It may wash with fat john who does not know much about boxing but most boxing fans know what is going on.

What seriously pissed me off was after the London bombings he made a farce of a statement after his fight about the need to forget etc. Yes tell that to the victims families. What a fcking twat for saying such a thing. He soon ditched the ****stani flags he used to have. I guess not good for PR.

[w4s1m]

Don't try & be a crusader this is a boxing forum.;)

The irony of all this is that in a thread the other day I was accused of being biased towards Muslim fighters.

i never mentioned anything to do with him being muslim;)

[w4s1m]

Well sometimes he talks shit. Trying to gloss over the fact he is fighting smaller people and claiming they are world class fighter. It may wash with fat john who does not know much about boxing but most boxing fans know what is going on.

What seriously pissed me off was after the London bombings he made a farce of a statement after his fight about the need to forget etc. Yes tell that to the victims families. What a fcking twat for saying such a thing. He soon ditched the ****stani flags he used to have. I guess not good for PR.

well u didnt see the earl fight he had the ****stan flag on his shorts and his bolton fans allways have the ****stan flags as does his family aswell.

what would u want him to say ?

[dan-b]

i never mentioned anything to do with him being muslim;)

You mentioned his colour, alluding to the notion that there maybe racial connotations with regards his criticism on this board. I'm telling you that's bullshit.:good

[kurt2006]

his power will come and remember he is only 21 not 25 or 26.

i swear i remember readng posts on here last year that after the Limond fight people were saying That Amir would have got stopped if he had been in with Earl and this was even after the Kasitdas had hamered him and there wernt no people at that time saying that Earl was shot, but when he stepped in with Amir he shot to bits.

u know thats bull man the abuse Amir gets on here is way OTT. what he ever does will be abuse,

You either have the power or you don't. It is like bollacks, you either have them and are a man or you don't and you are a woman. He has lots of speed and thats about it.

He will never have the power. Look at Naz he always had the power, same with Tyson, McClelland, Julian Jackson etc. They did not suddenly develop power overnight.

If he stops being an arse raises the level of his opponents, beats a few real world class LW's and wins a real world title then he will get praise. But if ****** is going to wrap him in cotton wool to protect his chin then people will question his ability and heart.

[dan-b]

well u didnt see the earl fight he had the ****stan flag on his shorts and his bolton fans allways have the ****stan flags as does his family aswell.

what would u want him to say ?

Er...how about it was a terrible, deplorable act that there is no excuse for or how about nothing?

[kurt2006]

well u didnt see the earl fight he had the ****stan flag on his shorts and his bolton fans allways have the ****stan flags as does his family aswell.

what would u want him to say ?

It was not there for last weeks fight. Ups he has that new Reebok contract on the horizon so he doe snot want to upset the apple cart by having the Pak flag on his clothing.

[kurt2006]

Er...how about it was a terrible, deplorable act that there is no excuse for or how about nothing?

Nope could not be arsed to say that. Simply we should forget about it. 52 killed, more than 700 injured not to mention what the families of the victims went through and are still going through and this dumb fuck amir says we need to move on etc and forget about it.

What a complete and utter dickhead. If he does not know how to make a statement in repsonse a terrorist act he should keep his mouth shut.

[dwilson]

Lihgtweight, Light welter and Light middle WBU champ maybe.

[w4s1m]

You either have the power or you don't. It is like bollacks, you either have them and are a man or you don't and you are a woman. He has lots of speed and thats about it.

He will never have the power. Look at Naz he always had the power, same with Tyson, McClelland, Julian Jackson etc. They did not suddenly develop power overnight.

If he stops being an arse raises the level of his opponents, beats a few real world class LW's and wins a real world title then he will get praise. But if ****** is going to wrap him in cotton wool to protect his chin then people will question his ability and heart.

16 damn fights u lot are going on like he is in his 25th fight, the big fights will come so u lot need to relax. As for his heart that has been answered after getting dropped against Limmond he got up a took him apart and retired him iin the fight

[w4s1m]

Nope could not be arsed to say that. Simply we should forget about it. 52 killed, more than 700 injured not to mention what the families of the victims went through and are still going through and this dumb fuck amir says we need to move on etc and forget about it.

What a complete and utter dickhead. If he does not know how to make a statement in repsonse a terrorist act he should keep his mouth shut.

why didnt any of the senior pros of british Boxing make any statements at the time ?

the guys a boxer not a UN worker

[dan-b]

Nope could not be arsed to say that. Simply we should forget about it. 52 killed, more than 700 injured not to mention what the families of the victims went through and are still going through and this dumb fuck amir says we need to move on etc and forget about it.

What a complete and utter dickhead. If he does not know how to make a statement in repsonse a terrorist act he should keep his mouth shut.

This is what annoys me about modern sportsmen. They seem to think they become an authority on everything & we, the little people, should listen to them & hold their opinions in high regard. Khan made a misinformed, ill adivsed statement that appeared to only pander to his own ethnic group.

[kurt2006]

16 damn fights u lot are going on like he is in his 25th fight, the big fights will come so u lot need to relax. As for his heart that has been answered after getting dropped against Limmond he got up a took him apart and retired him iin the fight

So what if it is 16 fights. They have been against blown up fighters, the type he should be winning by KO. It is when he goes against the big boys that he may not get the KO.

Fuck his heart as that was not in question, what was in question was his chin and the question was answered by Limmond.

[kurt2006]

why didnt any of the senior pros of british Boxing make any statements at the time ?

the guys a boxer not a UN worker

Should keep his mouth shut if he is not a UN worker. No one asked him to come out with a pathetic irresponsible statement.

Nope no other pro's made an after fight statement as they do not court publicity etc as much as Khan.

[LeadLeftHook]

Nope could not be arsed to say that. Simply we should forget about it. 52 killed, more than 700 injured not to mention what the families of the victims went through and are still going through and this dumb fuck amir says we need to move on etc and forget about it.

What a complete and utter dickhead. If he does not know how to make a statement in repsonse a terrorist act he should keep his mouth shut.
Look the guy was an 18 yr old at the time. It was his first pro interview right after a fight, he was nervous and didnt know what to say. He was probably asked by his team or maybe felt he should express sympathey its not about publicity, he gets plenty of that.

Anyways why is it a probelm if has a ****stani flag on his shorts, he wants to represent that side of heritage as well. American born Mexican fighters often have mexican flags on their shorts and come out to Mexican music wearing Mexican hat representing only Mexican heritage. Yet no one has a problem with it maybe because a double standard holds for a Muslim man.

[kurt2006]

This is what annoys me about modern sportsmen. They seem to think they become an authority on everything & we, the little people, should listen to them & hold their opinions in high regard. Khan made a misinformed, ill adivsed statement that appeared to only pander to his own ethnic group.

Agreed, the statement was stupid and offensive to the victims and their families. He is not the best with his words as he tries to use words that he does not understand etc. So why not keep his mouth shut. It was just stupid of him and pandering to those involved.

[dan-b]

Agreed, the statement was stupid and offensive to the victims and their families. He is not the best with his words as he tries to use words that he does not understand etc. So why not keep his mouth shut. It was just stupid of him and pandering to those involved.

Yup. Hopkins gets slated for the way he talks but he is the epitome of eloquence compared to Khan.:lol:

[w4s1m]

Should keep his mouth shut if he is not a UN worker. No one asked him to come out with a pathetic irresponsible statement.

Nope no other pro's made an after fight statement as they do not court publicity etc as much as Khan.

a reporter probably asked him on his thoughts regarding the London Bombings or something like that.

well he proved that he just doest only fight 1 way and that is to stop his opponent in 3 or 4 rounds as he showes against St Clair that use his superior boxing skills and win a fight against a someone like st clair who probably wot be stopped till he retires

[LeadLeftHook]

Yup. Hopkins gets slated for the way he talks but he is the epitome of eloquence compared to Khan.:lol: How articulate do expect an 18 yr old. Khan had turned 18 at the time my friend. His interviews now sound much better.

[dan-b]

Look the guy was an 18 yr old at the time. It was his first pro interview right after a fight, he was nervous and didnt know what to say. He was probably asked by his team or maybe felt he should express sympathey its not about publicity, he gets plenty of that.

Anyways why is it a probelm if has a ****stani flag on his shorts, he wants to represent that side of heritage as well. American born Mexican fighters often have mexican flags on their shorts and come out to Mexican music wearing Mexican hat representing only Mexican heritage. Yet no one has a problem with it maybe because a double standard holds for a Muslim man.

You are completely missing his point.:patsch

[kurt2006]

Look the guy was an 18 yr old at the time. It was his first pro interview right after a fight, he was nervous and didnt know what to say. I he was probably asked by his team to express sympathey.

Anyways why is it a probelm if has a ****stani flag on his shorts, he wants to represent that side of heritage as well. American born Mexican fighters often have mexican flags on their shorts and come out to Mexican music wearing Mexican hat representing only Mexican heritage. Yet no one has a problem with it maybe because a double standard holds for a Muslim man.
How the fuck was that expressing sympathy no expression of condolances to the families just a offensive statement about forgetting the incident. Should have got Asif to script him a statement if he wanted to make a statement.

Well keep it on his shorts. Says it all when you ditch it because you on the verge of signing a new contract and do not want to jepordise the big moola.

Ah here we go the muslim men line. There are other fucking minorities in ****stan besides Muslims. I would make the same statement if a ****stani Hindu or Sikh did the same thing by ditching the Pak flag to avoid rocking the applecart.

[w4s1m]

Look the guy was an 18 yr old at the time. It was his first pro interview right after a fight, he was nervous and didnt know what to say. He was probably asked by his team or maybe felt he should express sympathey its not about publicity, he gets plenty of that.

Anyways why is it a probelm if has a ****stani flag on his shorts, he wants to represent that side of heritage as well. American born Mexican fighters often have mexican flags on their shorts and come out to Mexican music wearing Mexican hat representing only Mexican heritage. Yet no one has a problem with it maybe because a double standard holds for a Muslim man.

u see junior witter with Jamican flag all the time

[LeadLeftHook]

You are completely missing his point.:patsch
No I'm not missing the point.

[dan-b]

How articulate do expect an 18 yr old. Khan had turned 18 at the time my friend. He interviews now sound much better.

Didn't sound to eloquent 8 months ago at 20 either.:lol:

r_PVmy1hCbk

[kurt2006]

Yup. Hopkins gets slated for the way he talks but he is the epitome of eloquence compared to Khan.:lol:

I do not like Bhop but like Tyson he does know what words mean and uses them carefully.

Khan does not understand half the words he tries to use. Maybe they could use an autoqueue for him to read his after fight statements off.

[dan-b]

No I'm not missing the point.

You are. He's not saying he shouldn't embrace his heritage, far from it infact. He was alluding to the notion Khan appears to embrace it when it suits him.

[kurt2006]

u see junior witter with Jamican flag all the time

He don't ditch it because he is in negotiations with Reebok.

[w4s1m]

How the fuck was that expressing sympathy no expression of condolances to the families just a offensive statement about forgetting the incident. Should have got sif to script him a statement if he wanted to make a statement.

Well keep it on his shorts. Says it all when you ditch it because you on the verge of signing a new contract and do not want to jepordise the big moola.

Ah here we go the muslim men line. There are other fucking minorities in ****stan besides Muslims. I would make the same statement if a ****stani Hindu or Sikh did the same thing by ditching the Pak flag to avoid rocking the applecart.

im pretty sure reebok would not ditch him coz he wears the ****stan flag? when his next fights comes along he will have his ****stan flag on, so why do Reebok sponser him if they know that he MUSLIM and has ****STANI background, u think as soon it comes to contract renewal that reebok forget all this

[kurt2006]

You are. He's not saying he shouldn't embrace his heritage, far from it infact. He was alluding to the notion Khan appears to embrace it when it suits him.

Yes thats what I am saying but he is bent on playing the old race/religious card.

[kurt2006]

im pretty sure reebok would not ditch him coz he wears the ****stan flag? when his next fights comes along he will have his ****stan flag on, so why do Reebok sponser him if they know that he MUSLIM and has ****STANI background, u think as soon it comes to contract renewal that reebok forget all this
Yup they do. You see the contract was up for renewal, Reebok exec's or their reps would have been at the last fight. Not very clever to have Pak flags on his shorts so they are ditched in favour of the BRITISH standard.

The guy is an arse when he was in Kashmir after the earthquake a few charities asked him to don their t-shirts for publicity pictures. To be fair Amir was ready but his entourage told him not to and instead they pulled out Reebok t-shirts to don for the PR shots and he wore them instead. Was he there for PR or helping his fellow MUSLIM'S ?

[dan-b]

Yes thats what I am saying but he is bent on playing the old race/religious card.

I'm with you but he's also being painted as a politically correct dream that ****** will use to full advantage.

Anyway, I'm bored of this now. Once he gets exposed & ******'s finished crying this will all be forgotten.

[LeadLeftHook]

Didn't sound to eloquent 8 months ago at 20 either.:lol:

r_PVmy1hCbk

haha...That always will be funny.
But, I'm talking about the ones after that :yep 'NAH I MEAN' interview.

[w4s1m]

Yup they do. You see the contract was up for renewal, Reebok exec's or their reps would have been at the last fight. Not very clever to have Pak flags on his shorts so they are ditched in favour of the British standard.

what bull shit mate, im sure Reebok has seen him in previus fights that he has the ****stan flag and they would have taken note. i think its a matter of choice of what he has on his shorts. half of the stuff u lot come out with is stupid and shows what how off u lot are

[kurt2006]

I'm with you but he's also being painted as a politically correct dream that ****** will use to full advantage.

Anyway, I'm bored of this now. Once he gets exposed & ******'s finished crying this will all be forgotten.

Yes but then we will have his younger brother to contend with and from what they say he is the better boxer but less advanced in terms of education than Amir. So I guess we can look forward to even more shoddy statements from the Khan clan.

[kurt2006]

what bull shit mate, im sure Reebok has seen him in previus fights that he has the ****stan flag and they would have taken note. i think its a matter of choice of what he has on his shorts. half of the stuff u lot come out with is stupid and shows what how off u lot are

Wazza you are stupid as Khan.

Not once have you said the statement was offensive and should not have been made. Instead you make excuses for Khan.

Well just for you...KHAN IS WAY OVERRATED AND WILL BE EXPOSED WHEN HE FIGHTS THE BIG BOYS

[LeadLeftHook]

You are. He's not saying he shouldn't embrace his heritage, far from it infact. He was alluding to the notion Khan appears to embrace it when it suits him.

That is just a ridiculious theory. So Khan doesnt have ****stani flag in his last fight so it must mean he's ditched his heritage because his Reebok contract was up for renewal. There have been other fights where he didnt have the ****stani flag on his trunks like the fight with Stefy Bull, Baz Carey just to name a few.

[dan-b]

That is just a ridiculious theory. So Khan doesnt have ****stani flag in his last fight so it must mean he's ditched his heritage because his Reebok contract was up for renewal. There have been other fights where he didnt have the ****stani flag on his trunks like the fight with Stefy Bull, Baz Carey just to name a few.

Wasn't my theory.;)

[w4s1m]

Wazza you are stupid as Khan.

Not once have you said the statement was offensive and should not have been made. Instead you make excuses for Khan.

Well just for you...KHAN IS WAY OVERRATED AND WILL BE EXPOSED WHEN HE FIGHTS THE BIG BOYS

Amir has been back a few times to Kashmir and has donated alot of money but u lot would think itss all to do with publicity.

il be here to shut u up again when Amir wins his next fight and u will be there to say that Romanov was Drunk or some bull like that:good

like lefthook has alrady said he was 18

[LeadLeftHook]

Wazza you are stupid as Khan.

Not once have you said the statement was offensive and should not have been made. Instead you make excuses for Khan.

Well just for you...KHAN IS WAY OVERRATED AND WILL BE EXPOSED WHEN HE FIGHTS THE BIG BOYS

I would agree that was stupid but like I said he was just 18 in his first interview after a pro. fight it was very diffucult spot to be in when the entire media labels all Muslims.

But stupidy is expeceted from teenagers. I dont think you're one so whats your excuse ?
To suggest that Khan dicthed his heritage simply because he didnt wear ****stani flag in his last fight is just ridiculious. There have been many other fights where he didnt wear either the ****stani or the British flag or only wore the British flag on his trunks. My theory is that you are simply looking for an agenda to justify your dislike for Khan.

[kurt2006]

That is just a ridiculious theory. So Khan doesnt have ****stani flag in his last fight so it must mean he's ditched his heritage because his Reebok contract was up for renewal. There have been other fights where he didnt have the ****stani flag on his trunks like the fight with Stefy Bull, Baz Carey just to name a few.
Strange how not once you have said Khans statement on the London bombings was wrong and offensive but keep going on about his fancy shorts.

The green Crescent is a symbol of Islam. I wonder how Mulla Omar or Qazi Hussain Ahmed would feel knowing someone was walking around with the sacred Crescent on their shorts and having the sweat of kafirs on it. Disgusting or what, lucky Khan is not on a visit to Sudan else they would put him in prison for insulting ISLAM.

[dan-b]

Strange how not once you have said Khans statement on the London bombings was wrong and offensive but keep going on about his fancy shorts.

The green Crescent is a symbol of Islam. I wonder how Mulla Omar or Qazi Hussain Ahmed would feel knowing someone was walking around with the sacred Crescent on their shorts and having the sweat of kafirs on it. Disgusting or what, lucky Khan is not on a visit to Sudan else they would put him in prison for insulting ISLAM.

You're taking this too far now. May I suggest you stop?

[LeadLeftHook]

Amir has been back a few times to Kashmir and has donated alot of money but u lot would think itss all to do with publicity.

il be here to shut u up again when Amir wins his next fight and u will be there to say that Romanov was Drunk or some bull like that:good

like lefthook has alrady said he was 18

Yes that was after the earthquake in Kashmir when over 100,000 people died. As well he's donated money for cancer research, amatuer boxing, built a community...etc etc. But no one talks about it so then how can they say it was done for publicity.

[kurt2006]

You're taking this too far now. May I suggest you stop?

I know but it is winding the nuthugger up plus questioning whether wearing your heritage on your shorts is an insult to your faith.

[w4s1m]

Strange how not once you have said Khans statement on the London bombings was wrong and offensive but keep going on about his fancy shorts.

The green Crescent is a symbol of Islam. I wonder how Mulla Omar or Qazi Hussain Ahmed would feel knowing someone was walking around with the sacred Crescent on their shorts and having the sweat of kafirs on it. Disgusting or what, lucky Khan is not on a visit to Sudan else they would put him in prison for insulting ISLAM.

the crest is on his side of shorts not on the backside, where the hell do u get ur stupid stuff from coz its very obvious that u do not like AMIR because he is muslim

[kurt2006]

Yes that was after the earthquake in Kashmir when over 100,000 people died. As well he's donated money for cancer research, amatuer boxing, built a community...etc etc. But no one talks about it so then how can they say it was done for publicity.

Yes and I applaud him for his charity work but do not think he should be using such opportunites as cheap PR opps. When you do not wear a t-shirt because you are told by your dad to put a Reebok one on then it begs the question why they were there and carrying a supply of Reebok t-shirts for Khan to wear.

[ferd cloupes]

jesus fuckin wept. possibly the wrong religion but fuck me this is unmitigated hatred

[LeadLeftHook]

Strange how not once you have said Khans statement on the London bombings was wrong and offensive but keep going on about his fancy shorts.

The green Crescent is a symbol of Islam. I wonder how Mulla Omar or Qazi Hussain Ahmed would feel knowing someone was walking around with the sacred Crescent on their shorts and having the sweat of kafirs on it. Disgusting or what, lucky Khan is not on a visit to Sudan else they would put him in prison for insulting ISLAM.
I have never disgreed that it was wrong but I given reasons as to why you are reading too much into it.

Not surprising that your real agenda and hatered is showing. This is boxing forum so I would suggest sticking to boxing also I would suggest reading up on the history of the church, it will open your eyes to some of the atrocities commited by White men in the name of religion.

[kurt2006]

the crest is on his side of shorts not on the backside, where the hell do u get ur stupid stuff from coz its very obvious that u do not like AMIR because he is muslim

It does not matter where it is ! If he has it on the backside and farted would you consider that wrong ? When you are in the ring with another fighter you do get blood, sweat etc on your shorts (both your own and that of the other fighter). To me it appears to be an act of profanity that he wears shorts with the MUSLIM crescent on into a ring. Do you not value the Crescent ? I am not even a muslim but think it is wrong and the symobol of ISLAM is defiled.

I do not give a fck if he is MUSLIM. Check my posts and see how many anti MUSLIM posts I have made and how many I made applauding NAZ (real champion with speed, power and a chin).

[w4s1m]

I have never disgreed that it was wrong but I given reasons as to why you are reading too much into it.

Not surprising that your real agenda is showing.

atleatst the truth is out that y he hates Amir then.

[kurt2006]

I have never disgreed that it was wrong but I given reasons as to why you are reading too much into it.

Not surprising that your real agenda and hatered is showing. This is boxing forum so I would suggest sticking to boxing also I would suggest reading up on the history of the church, it will open your eyes to some of the atrocities commited by White men in the name of religion.
Where is the hatred ? Seeing as he kept going on about the shorts I am simply questioning him (as Wazza is a Muslim) as to whether it is an act of profanity to get a religious symbol covered in sweat and blood.

If I said XYZ is a bastard and a cunt cus they are of a certain faith that would be hatred. If I took pot shots and made remarks against the Prophet then that would be wrong and disgusting.

[kurt2006]

atleatst the truth is out that y he hates Amir then.
Are you lacking brain cells ?

Search for topics on Naz and see how many times I crticised him or not. You will find I always bigged him up. So please keep your Islamaphobia agenda at bay.

Lets see why I hate Amir....ups I do not even hate him. I do question the level of his opponents, his indulgance in PR, and state why I think he will never be a real world champion on par with the likes of Naz.

I guess by your sheer use of logic, I do not have much time for Khan...He is a Muslim....1+1=3 so Kurt hates Amir cus he is a Muslim.

You are a complete joke.

I will be honest with you now. I have travelled to Pak in 2004 and thought it was a nice country, I stayed in Lahore and then went to Peshawar. I preferred Peshawar as the place was more vibrant and the people a law on to themselves. I even thought the motorway (built by the north koreans) was superb and probably the best road I have ever travelled on. I loved the views near the NWFP fanastic views over that river that looks blue in color. So stick your race agenda where the sun does not shine.

[LeadLeftHook]

Are you lacking brain cells ?

Search for topics on Naz and see how many times I crticised him or not. You will find I always bigged him up. So please keep your Islamaphobia agenda at bay.

Lets see why I hate Amir....ups I do not even hate him. I do question the level of his opponents, his indulgance in PR, and state why I think he will never be a real world champion on par with the likes of Naz.

I guess by your sheer use of logic, I do not have much time for Khan...He is a Muslim....1+1=3 so Kurt hates Amir cus he is a Muslim.

You are a complete joke.
I'm a Muslim as well, your reference to Crescent, Mulla Omar, infedals etc...and Khan's shorts in the same sentence certainly made you come across that way.
As for shorts and religous symbol I cant say for everyone but on the side of the shorts is fine. What were you doing in Peshawar if I may ask? My wife was born in ****stan so I'd like to go there one day.

[kurt2006]

I'm a Muslim as well, your reference to Crescent, Mulla Omar, infedals etc...and Khan's shorts in the same sentence certainly made you come across that way.
As for shorts and religous symbol I cant say for everyone but on side of the shorts is fine. Anyways, I have to get some work done! Catch you later

I did mention Mulla Omar and Qazi Hussain Ahmed as they are both seen as religious men in Peshawar etc and I knew their names.

[LeadLeftHook]

I did mention Mulla Omar and Qazi Hussain Ahmed as they are both seen as religious men in Peshawar etc and I knew their names.
Religious men to some and just fanatic with a political agenda to most.

[w4s1m]

Are you lacking brain cells ?

Search for topics on Naz and see how many times I crticised him or not. You will find I always bigged him up. So please keep your Islamaphobia agenda at bay.

Lets see why I hate Amir....ups I do not even hate him. I do question the level of his opponents, his indulgance in PR, and state why I think he will never be a real world champion on par with the likes of Naz.

I guess by your sheer use of logic, I do not have much time for Khan...He is a Muslim....1+1=3 so Kurt hates Amir cus he is a Muslim.

You are a complete joke.

I will be honest with you now. I have travelled to Pak in 2004 and thought it was a nice country, I stayed in Lahore and then went to Peshawar. I preferred Peshawar as the place was more vibrant and the people a law on to themselves. I even thought the motorway (build by the north koreans) was superb and probably the best road I have ever travelled on. So stick your race agenda where the sun does not shine.

so why come out with all this bullshit and say that he has removed the ****stan flag from the side of his shorts coz of a contract with reebok? the turkish footballers have the star and moon on their shorts, its on the side its no big issue its just u who is making it 1.

why are u trying to justifie urself that u like muslims coz i couldnt really give a fuck if u do or not

[kurt2006]

so why come out with all this bullshit and say that he has removed the ****stan flag from the side of his shorts coz of a contract with reebok? the turkish footballers have the star and moon on their shorts, its on the side its no big issue its just u who is making it 1.

why are u trying to justifie urself that u like muslims coz i couldnt really give a fuck if u do or not
Fck you I do not need to justify anything to you. I was simply telling you that your Islamaphobia agenda held no water. Do you think I would be arsed to visit Pak if I had a hidden agenda against Muslims ? I think not, I would rather be in Sikhim or Thailand enjoying myself.

He did remove it and to me it apears as if he does make a lot of decisison based on PR and capital gains. I gave you the example of him refusing to wear a charity t-shirt. I also think it is an act of profanity and that the likes of Qazi Hussain Ahmed would consider it as such.

As for the Turks yes it is wrong but then their country has been fcked up for years.

[w4s1m]

Fck you I do not need to justify anything to you. I was simply telling you that your Islamaphobia agenda held no water. Do you think I would be arsed to visit Pak if I had a hidden agenda against Muslims ? I think not, I would rather be in Sikhim or Thailand enjoying myself.

He did remove it and to me it apears as if he does make a lot of decisison based on PR and capital gains. I gave you the example of him refusing to wear a charity t-shirt. I also think it is an act of profanity and that the likes of Qazi Hussain Ahmed would consider it as such.

As for the Turks yes it is wrong but then their country has been fcked up for years.

listen Qazi Hussain Ahmed does not represent the whole of ****stan or the muslim world, like the BNP does not represent the whole of britian or the western world:good

[w4s1m]

not that Qazi Hussain ahmed is bad person

[kurt2006]

listen Qazi Hussain Ahmed does not represent the whole of ****stan or the muslim world, like the BNP does not represent the whole of britian or the western world:good

Appeared to me as a nice enough person. OK he is religous but still tells is like it is unlike other politicians. Rather than BNP I would say more a religious version of Tony Benn.

[dwilson]

People do not hate Khan because he's Muslim. They hate him because he's an overprotced gob-shite who hides behind Frank ****** to get him soft punching no chancers. He has built up a great career by being a nob and while portraying himself outside the ring as an hero and nice dude when actually he's an above the law arrogant tit.

[joekirkbycobra]

Amir Khan vs Barry McGuigan - When The Tomato Khans Run Out

haha

[Claypole]

i do think that it is to do with his colourWhy is it whenever there is a thread about Amir Khan somebody like you always chips in with this bollocks? Comments like this are divisive and only serve to introduce a nasty element into what is simply a bit of light hearted boxing banter.
I doubt very much whether you are are serious boxing fan. More like a young Khan fan who thinks the sun shines out of his arse. When you joined ESB you were probably horrified that it wasn't full of people who felt the same way as you. This is a boxing forum for boxing fans, not some hero worship website.
The hugger/hater element on ESB is all good fun and should not be taken as seriously as what you and some others here seem to have done. Amir Khan does not receive any more "hatred" (or "hugging" for that matter) than any other high profile fighters who plaster themselves in the papers and on our TV screens.
If you want to beat the drum (otherwise known as inciting hatred) about this so called racism, may I suggest you take it somewhere where people actually want to hear it.

[halftooth]

Fck you I do not need to justify anything to you. I was simply telling you that your Islamaphobia agenda held no water. Do you think I would be arsed to visit Pak if I had a hidden agenda against Muslims ? I think not, I would rather be in Sikhim or Thailand enjoying myself.

He did remove it and to me it apears as if he does make a lot of decisison based on PR and capital gains. I gave you the example of him refusing to wear a charity t-shirt. I also think it is an act of profanity and that the likes of Qazi Hussain Ahmed would consider it as such.

As for the Turks yes it is wrong but then their country has been fcked up for years.

ok I,m calling u out, for me your a classic internet generation bnp troll.

your bullshit flag on the shorts argument was purposely removed for pr/reebook purposes have already been proven to be false, as a prevouis poster stated he has not worn the green crescent on all his fights.

as far as your i,ve been to pak, blah blah blah blah, I dont belive a fcking word, this is the fooking internet, you can say can say what u like ere, it dont mean chit, unless in reality u can prove it...lol

you hatred for paks/muslims became clear in this post, this basically imo gave u away...

"Strange how not once you have said Khans statement on the London bombings was wrong and offensive but keep going on about his fancy shorts.

The green Crescent is a symbol of Islam. I wonder how Mulla Omar or Qazi Hussain Ahmed would feel knowing someone was walking around with the sacred Crescent on their shorts and having the sweat of kafirs on it. Disgusting or what, lucky Khan is not on a visit to Sudan else they would put him in prison for insulting ISLAM"

the language u used is pure bnp anti muslim lingo, in the old days it was anti pakee, As soon as i read that, it was like i was on the unofficial bnp forums...a forum a frequent quite a bit:yep

I,m not buying into your bullshit at all m8.

The hatred by some posters for khan is way way way OTT.

that doesnt mean i think he,ll be a 3weight champ btw..lol, i think he might get a belt, but he would suprise me if he went on to do as well as hatton or naz.

also the bullchit about him being arogant etc, r u lot kidding r u lot on crack? khan has hardly any personality, his so called "cocky" talk is fck all, compared to other fighters over the years, he talks smack by the numbers...

yes there is legitimate concerns/criticisms about how far he will go, even his chin etc, but to all the normal posters, you need to wake up and realise that there are bnp trolls on almost every popular uk based forums, they do have an agenda, and that is to negatively protray any person of colour whos in the public eye...inc hamilton/winner of big brother and so on,
Khan imbodies everything they hate, you really need to wake up to that reality, because it is one...

[halftooth]

Why is it whenever there is a thread about Amir Khan somebody like you always chips in with this bollocks? Comments like this are divisive and only serve to introduce a nasty element into what is simply a bit of light hearted boxing banter.
I doubt very much whether you are are serious boxing fan. More like a young Khan fan who thinks the sun shines out of his arse. When you joined ESB you were probably horrified that it wasn't full of people who felt the same way as you. This is a boxing forum for boxing fans, not some hero worship website.
The hugger/hater element on ESB is all good fun and should not be taken as seriously as what you and some others here seem to have done. Amir Khan does not receive any more "hatred" (or "hugging" for that matter) than any other high profile fighters who plaster themselves in the papers and on our TV screens.
If you want to beat the drum (otherwise known as inciting hatred) about this so called racism, may I suggest you take it somewhere where people actually want to hear it.


bollocks, absolute bollocks....the hater elements for khan go way OTT and i mean way, people calling him every fcking swear word under the sun, inc yourself, from posts i,ve read, it fcking way OTT.

I,m all for general piss take within constrcutive criticisms, but the khan hate goes beyond that at times on here.

I,ve heard him been called everything on ere inc a pak*, who you trying to kid?

[Claypole]

people calling him every fcking swear word under the sun, inc yourself.
FFS, not another teenage newbie Khan lover. Can you provide examples where I have called him every swear word under the sun?
I sincerely hope you are not accusing me of racism. I may be harsh on the guy, but my opinions are strictly boxing/driving/gobshite related.

[ravi B]

totally agree the hatred of khan on these forums is way ott

[Claypole]

totally agree the hatred of khan on these forums is way ottHardly. There's plenty of fighters that get hated as much as him. Search the forums (all of them) and you will see far more hatred for the Klitchkos, Ricky Hatton, Joe Calzaghe, to name a few.

[faisal]

fuckin racists

[halftooth]

FFS, not another teenage newbie Khan lover. Can you provide examples where I have called him every swear word under the sun?
I sincerely hope you are not accusing me of racism. I may be harsh on the guy, but my opinions are strictly boxing/driving/gobshite related.

bor fcking ring, find another way to put me down/boost your argument other then to call me a khan lover/teenager/forum noob..

I,m none of the above:
I,m not gonna troll through your posts, your proberly have called him a cunt more then khan..lol

nethier did i accuse u of being racist, so cut it out, u maybe a bit grey judging by your piss take avatar..yoking.

I countered your post, thats all i did, your countering mine with b/s.

the gest of it is...the khan hate is ott, you stated in your own way it wasnt, it was fair and balanced..lol, yea right like fox news is:D

i repeat....

I,m all for general piss take within constrcutive criticisms, but the khan hate goes beyond that at times on here.

I,ve heard him been called everything on ere inc a pak*, who you trying to kid?

[kurt2006]

ok I,m calling u out, for me your a classic internet generation bnp troll.

your bullshit flag on the shorts argument was purposely removed for pr/reebook purposes have already been proven to be false, as a prevouis poster stated he has not worn the green crescent on all his fights.

as far as your i,ve been to pak, blah blah blah blah, I dont belive a fcking word, this is the fooking internet, you can say can say what u like ere, it dont mean chit, unless in reality u can prove it...lol

you hatred for paks/muslims became clear in this post, this basically imo gave u away...

"Strange how not once you have said Khans statement on the London bombings was wrong and offensive but keep going on about his fancy shorts.

The green Crescent is a symbol of Islam. I wonder how Mulla Omar or Qazi Hussain Ahmed would feel knowing someone was walking around with the sacred Crescent on their shorts and having the sweat of kafirs on it. Disgusting or what, lucky Khan is not on a visit to Sudan else they would put him in prison for insulting ISLAM"

the language u used is pure bnp anti muslim lingo, in the old days it was anti pakee, As soon as i read that, it was like i was on the unofficial bnp forums...a forum a frequent quite a bit:yep

I,m not buying into your bullshit at all m8.

The hatred by some posters for khan is way way way OTT.

that doesnt mean i think he,ll be a 3weight champ btw..lol, i think he might get a belt, but he would suprise me if he went on to do as well as hatton or naz.

also the bullchit about him being arogant etc, r u lot kidding r u lot on crack? khan has hardly any personality, his so called "cocky" talk is fck all, compared to other fighters over the years, he talks smack by the numbers...

yes there is legitimate concerns/criticisms about how far he will go, even his chin etc, but to all the normal posters, you need to wake up and realise that there are bnp trolls on almost every popular uk based forums, they do have an agenda, and that is to negatively protray any person of colour whos in the public eye...inc hamilton/winner of big brother and so on,
Khan imbodies everything they hate, you really need to wake up to that reality, because it is one...

What you want a scan of the visa or entry/exit stamps ? Just for you here is a scan of the Visa (I will remove in a day so you have time to see it)

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For me you are the classic politically correct troll who takes it on him self to point fingers at others without analysing anything.

Lets see is the crescent a sacred symbol for Muslims ? ... YES
Does Khan wear it on his shorts ? .... YES
During the course of a fight will it get the covered with sweat and possibly blood ?...YES

Is this acceptable to those accusing people who do not like Khan (on the basis of him being over protected) racists etc ?

Simple enough question without name calling or anything derogatory about Islam. So what is your problem ?


but to all the normal posters, you need to wake up and realise that there are bnp trolls

Yes BNP trolls would back Naz wouldnt they :nut I think like the rest of the country people need to be aware of politically over-correct idiots like yourself who are incapable of analysing anything and take every opportunity to use the racism card. :tong

[kurt2006]

bor fcking ring, find another way to put me down/boost your argument other then to call me a khan lover/teenager/forum noob..

I,m none of the above:
I,m not gonna troll through your posts, your proberly have called him a cunt more then khan..lol

nethier did i accuse u of being racist, so cut it out, u maybe a bit grey judging by your piss take avatar..yoking.

I countered your post, thats all i did, your countering mine with b/s.

the gest of it is...the khan hate is ott, you stated in your own way it wasnt, it was fair and balanced..lol, yea right like fox news is:D

i repeat....

I,m all for general piss take within constrcutive criticisms, but the khan hate goes beyond that at times on here.

I,ve heard him been called everything on ere inc a pak*, who you trying to kid?

Did not see you complain when people (mainly me) were saying AAA was shit. Ups he is a white anglo saxon scottish chap so your race card would not work.

Plenty of boxers get stick on the forums and this has sweet FA to do with their race, colour, gender, sexual inclination, religion or ethniciy.

[kurt2006]

I don't see why criticising a fighter is synonymous with being either racist or bigoted.

I couldn't give two shits about anyone's religion: it's a total nothing in my life.

I think it's the same for the majority of posters on here, whether they're religious or not. It has nothing to do with whether you like a fighter or not. That'd be as ridiculous as me telling a Muslim poster that they hated Evander Holyfield for being Christian.
:happy

Exactly, some people make a habbit out of playing the race card and just like the boy who cried wolf it eventually backfires on them . According to the toothfairy I am a BNP troll who likes Naz, David Haye, JC, Eubank, RJJ, PBF, Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Holyfield etc etc.

[Claypole]

I,m not gonna troll through your posts, your proberly have called him a cunt more then khan..lol
So you are happy to make accusations based on guesswork and supposition? Not a lot of point in continuing then, is there?

[w4s1m]

Why is it whenever there is a thread about Amir Khan somebody like you always chips in with this bollocks? Comments like this are divisive and only serve to introduce a nasty element into what is simply a bit of light hearted boxing banter.
I doubt very much whether you are are serious boxing fan. More like a young Khan fan who thinks the sun shines out of his arse. When you joined ESB you were probably horrified that it wasn't full of people who felt the same way as you. This is a boxing forum for boxing fans, not some hero worship website.
The hugger/hater element on ESB is all good fun and should not be taken as seriously as what you and some others here seem to have done. Amir Khan does not receive any more "hatred" (or "hugging" for that matter) than any other high profile fighters who plaster themselves in the papers and on our TV screens.
If you want to beat the drum (otherwise known as inciting hatred) about this so called racism, may I suggest you take it somewhere where people actually want to hear it.

what bull shit that is, who ever sticks up for Amir is new fan of boxing. its very obvious alot of posters on here that hate amir not for boxing skills but for other reason which have been made apparent despite that denials of some.

[kurt2006]

fuckin racists

Where the fuck is the racism turd brain ?

Khan is not the Caliphate is he ? Not liking Khan does not equate to being a racist.

It might be worthwhile if idiots like you bothered to check posts by others to see whether they disliked boxers because of their background or whether they simply disliked a boxer on the basis of his ability and management. I guess you are not intelligent enough to do that. Far easier to point fingers.

I have no time for AAA. Hang on I am a racist and BNP troll, AAA is a British chap who happens to be white....maybe his g/f or wife is not white...ah I am saved I can hate AAA and still keep true to the BNP if I assume his g/f is not white.

[LeadLeftHook]

He's not representing Islam on his trunks. Kurt I'm sure you know crescent is on the ****stani flag, the green and white are also on it, he's just representing the ****stani heritgate. You're reading too much into it in my view.

[kurt2006]

what bull shit that is, who ever sticks up for Amir is new fan of boxing. its very obvious alot of posters on here that hate amir not for boxing skills but for other reason which have been made apparent despite that denials of some.

Yes his attitude and making statements without thinking.

Yes Naz had an attitude but he backed it up in the ring and was a superb boxer. He poked fun in his opposition but it was done in a comical manner. He never tried to play the statesman. Khan is protected and can talk shit so people do not like him. This in no way equates to racism as the same posters who dislike Khan have all the time in the world for Witter, Naz, AAA, PBF, JCC, Bhops etc.

Look who has had most stick over the years. It is Audley and the reason for the stick is because he was arrogant and the BBC paid him £1m to fight tomato cans.

[kurt2006]

He's not representing Islam on his trunks. Kurt I'm sure you know crescent is on the ****stani flag, the green and white are also on it, he's just representing the ****stani heritgate. You're reading too much into it in my view.

Don't know buddy. I thought they used the Crescent in the Pak flag because it is an Islamic Republic and this emphasises the religion. I would have though it was offensive to put such a sacred symbol on your shorts and to get sweat all over it.

Maybe being a BNP troll I am being over politically correct.

[LeadLeftHook]

I'll just repeat myself the crescent of Khans trunks are representitive of ****stani flag along with the green and white that he has.

Its Hamed that I did not like for selling Islam as though it was a product. He had ISLAM on his trunk at the front, he came to Athan (call to prayer ) instead of ring entrance song for the Barrera fight. That to me is misrepresenting, branding selling it as though it were a product and it bothered me.

[Claypole]

who ever sticks up for Amir is new fan of boxing. Not necessarily. Many boxers over the years have had a huge fanbase of people who would not describe themselves as boxing fans. Frank Bruno, Mike Tyson, Naz, (to name just a few) all had an army of followers who were not true boxing fans, (as well as the genuine fight fans who liked them).
Amir Khan is no exception.

[LeadLeftHook]

Don't know buddy. I thought they used the Crescent in the Pak flag because it is an Islamic Republic and this emphasises the religion. I would have though it was offensive to put such a sacred symbol on your shorts and to get sweat all over it.

Maybe being a BNP troll I am being over politically correct.
Depends on who you ask and how they see it. For example a villager in ****stan might be offended, but vast majorty wont care. But fact is, Khans intent is to represent the flag and not the religion.

[kurt2006]

I'm a Muslim as well, your reference to Crescent, Mulla Omar, infedals etc...and Khan's shorts in the same sentence certainly made you come across that way.
As for shorts and religous symbol I cant say for everyone but on the side of the shorts is fine. What were you doing in Peshawar if I may ask? My wife was born in ****stan so I'd like to go there one day.
Tourism. I had done India, Oman, loads of EU countries and fancied a trip to Pak. Got a Visa and went over. Enjoyed the place, people are nice and everything is so cheap (when I converted to pounds). I got over 110RS to a £ and could easily eat etc for a £1 a day. I wanted to go visit the Kalash people but I was told it was a protected area and it would take time to get permission (dont know if it is true), but I had little time so came back after Peshawar.

Saw no boxing gyms but plenty of Snooker tables.

You should visit the place. Very interesting country and plenty to see. Great disparity in wealth but you get that in India as well.

[kurt2006]

I'll just repeat myself the crescent of Khans trunks are representitive of ****stani flag along with the green and white that he has.

Its Hamed that I did not like for selling Islam as though it was a product. He had ISLAM on his trunk at the front, he came to Athan (call to prayer ) instead of ring entrance song for the Barrera fight. That to me is misrepresenting, branding selling it as though it were a product and it bothered me.

You seen Anthony Smalls ring entrance against Pryce that was seriously warped. More so than Hameds entrance for MAB fight.

[LeadLeftHook]

Tourism. I had done India, Oman, loads of EU countries and fancied a trip to Pak. Got a Visa and went over. Enjoyed the place, people are nice and everything is so cheap (when I converted to pounds). I got over 110RS to a £ and could easily eat etc for a £1 a day. I wanted to go visit the Kalash people but I was told it was a protected area and it would take time to get permission (dont know if it is true), but I had little time so came back after Peshawar.

Saw no boxing gyms but plenty of Snooker tables.

You should visit the place. Very interesting country and plenty to see. Great disparity in wealth but you get that in India as well.
thx for sharing that. I'm sure you cricket clubs though. Yeah lots to see I've been told, one place I'd really like to go are the mountains in Kashmir. I hear they have great Kebobs, Neharis, Tikka, Naans and I'm hungry now. Kalash people are very closed and they might be protected because its a very small minority.

[w4s1m]

You seen Anthony Smalls ring entrance against Pryce that was seriously warped. More so than Hameds entrance for MAB fight.

i was at that fight and there were a section of the crowd at the fight shouting out horrible abuse at small coz he had Islamic music entrance on

[kurt2006]

thx for sharing that. Lots to see I've been told. I hear they have great Kebobs, Neharis, Tikka, Naans and I'm hungry now. Kalash people are very closed and they might be protected because its a very small minority.

Massive Naans and very cheap. Preferred the Peshwari food than the Punjabi fare, they do great rice which does not look very good but is the best savoury rice I have ever had.

Yes probably protected but I though if Palin could get in then I might be able to get in. Had similar problems when I wanted to visit Bhutan. They wanted $200 a night so I soon skipped on that.

[LeadLeftHook]

You seen Anthony Smalls ring entrance against Pryce that was seriously warped. More so than Hameds entrance for MAB fight.
Havent seen it, can't imagine it was more warped than Hameds? Nah I live in NY so I dont get to see too many Brits. fight. I've seen a lot of Hatton, Calzaghe and ofcourse Khan but thats it.

[kurt2006]

i was at that fight and there were a section of the crowd at the fight shouting out horrible abuse at small coz he had Islamic music entrance on

Yes Hamed had similar shit from the crowd for the MAB fight and that is why a lot of them hate on him. Could not take it that an ill prepared Hamed who did not bother training properly did 12 with MAB.

Smalls entrance was weird with his mask etc on with religious music.

[LeadLeftHook]

i was at that fight and there were a section of the crowd at the fight shouting out horrible abuse at small coz he had Islamic music entrance on

Religion should be left outside the boxing arena, ofcourse that doesnt mean people shout insults.

[w4s1m]

Religion should be left outside the boxing arena, ofcourse that doesnt mean people shout insults.

i was surprised that the stewards at the fight did not do anything about it small got a bad decision i felt in that fight

[kurt2006]

i was surprised that the stewards at the fight did not do anything about it small got a bad decision i felt in that fight

Stewards are there just for health and safety reasons. They have no intention of doing a proper job. This is the same everywhere. We get English FA complaining about Racist chants in Croatia and Spain yet what did they do to Everton in the 1980s when Everton fans bought so many bananas that shops ran out, just so they could throw them at John Barnes.

Sadly there are a lot of narrow minded individuals out there (some say it is a minority) but the 'majority' are happy to join in with the racist chanting etc. Last weeks abuse of Hamilton and his family is a prime example. The stewards should have kicked the arsehole racists out the race track and banned them for life but they were happy watching the idiots shouting their abuse.

Same happens at boxing events and the stewards are not man enough to take any action. Would be great if a boxer took Cantona type action and knocked a few racist fuckers out. But then the farts at the BBBC would ban the boxer for life even though the BBBC bastards are happy to let the racist booing/chants etc carry on at boxing events.

[kurt2006]

fuck me lads chill out, think iam goin 2 sell my computer now

Give you £60 if it can run Vista and the latest games.

[kerrminator]

no because he is saying he has the potential to be!

Look McGuigan has a personal intrest in Khan, everytime khan fights McGuigan picks up £5,000 to say he done well, if he says hes no good they wont put him on. so you cant really listen to his opinion.

But there are no boxing writers that would disagree that he doesnt have the potential to get to that level.

i think he will be a 4 weight world champ and in 10 years il be on here laughing! thats my opinion and thats why i come on here, to express is cos only one of my mates like boxing!


Perhaps some sports writers would agree but boxing writers know the difference between a hype jod and a medea creation

[brown_bomber]

mcguigan knows what hes talking about hes won a world title before have u ?

[kurt2006]

mcguigan knows what hes talking about hes won a world title before have u ?

Means very little.

Pele has won a few world cups but always talks shit. He tipped Columbia to win the 1994 World Cup. They went out in the early stages and one of their players got shot dead.

[Steve Fox]

McGuigan's no expert, I don't rate his insight.

[dan-b]

McGuigan's no expert, I don't rate his insight.

Especially not now he's a Sports Network PR man.

[kerrminator]

To be fair McGuigan has already questioned Khans chin in the past so maybe he's sometimes right.

Khan has done absoltey nothing to suggest he will be successful at world level and until he gets real tests against world level opposition we will never know.

My cash is on Khan getting blown out by the first decent dig to his chin.

[puremental2]

there is no doubt that amir is a big talent. the problem for me as others have said, is that others who have deserved just as much if not more get nothing in comparison