Congrats Wladimir

[Flurry]

Marvelous fight, one of his best ever, imo, he stuck to his gameplan, destroyed the man round by round, actually he took him apart, handed him such a onesided beating. What a sight seeing Brewster head snapped back by each of Wlad´s accurate jabs. Such a complete fighter at this stage of his career, outstanding jab, left- right, left hook, single straight right hand thrown over Brewster non existing lead defense. Very good lateral movement that I had hardly seen to this extent by him. He took his time, didnt rush it, even when the ignorant german crowd actually started booing during some of the very few tamer moments in the match.

Wlad redeemed himself big time. He should be considered p4p material now, definitely the best heavy around, undisputedly, but maybe there s more to come, maybe he can become an ATG fighter, hes only 31 after all, thats no age for a heavy, despite the fact he started out very young. I hear you say lets not go overboard with praise now, but I say credit where its due, Wlad had been accused of ducking the fighters that could pose him problems stylewise, well ,he beat peter and now he has dismantled Brwester.

But the question that bothers me, especially seeing that Vitali was labelled a quitter after he had to retire with a torn rotator cuff in the Byrd fight, is, can Brwester be called a quitter now? I know it was McGirt who ended it, not Brewster himself, Lame-an looked fatigued in the interval and hardly able to respond to his coach, and I have little doubt he couldnt have gone on much longer, but what had he been expecting? It was clear Wlad was the technically much better fighter, he had already been just that in the first fight, Brwester had to go for broke if he really intended to win, had to take chances. he was denied just that in the first 6 rounds but he should have kept on trying. Until the very bitter end, which very likely would have seen him in the ring dust.

Brewster - a quitter?

[Artani]

Of coursa is quiter who knows how much he takes from Wlad to let him to beat him .

[Axe]

Exceptional performance by the big man, showing why his jab is #1 in boxing today. You can tell Wlad was motivated for this one, he really wanted to erase what happened in their first meeting.

[limi_7]

I want everyone to understand my opinion. Brewster similar to many fighters have personal interests. Victory/fame/money and pride is the number one objective for many fighters. There comes a time; the prime when a boxer is at its best and shows what he is made of. Brewster is past his prime.

Every boxers dream is the belt and world recognition. These boxers are motivated by fans and passion for the sport of boxing. Their main interest is victory. When one fails, or is prone to failure, he looks into a different direction. A forefeit. Simply a boxer may have the upmost passion for his fans, but his interest is clearly himselft and his family. Brewster in regards to the forefeit of wlad-brewster match was a great/intelligent idea. We the fans of boxing have witnessed a better boxer than previously thought. Wlad from the begining dominated and was clearly going to end brewster in a devastating KO.

Brewster in my opinion is no way near a quitter. It was a decision discussed between him and his trainer and that decision was a good one. Why suffer and endager your personal health when you know you have no chance of victory. This is not a quitting matter rather than a personal interest. Let me remind everyone that boxing is the most dangerous sport when it comes to health. Repetetive punches to the head cause the brain to hit the skull numerous times, thus resulting in brain damage. Boxing is my favorite sport, but you cannot criticize its toughness unless you perform it yourself. Call him a quitter or a warrior the reality does not change. He is considered a proffesional fighter because he posses proffesional abilities. Great chin, hammer hitting punches and good stamina make brewster for what he really is.

[Ivo]

Of coursa is quiter who knows how much he takes from Wlad to let him to beat him .


Come on, man. You told us that 3 million Albanians would be behind Brewster. Now you are calling him a quitter. Should I remind you how Luani Krasniqi quit against Brewster?

[sean]

the fight panned out as i hoped and predicted with the only thing that i did not forsee was brewster being stopped .

i thought wlad was calmer under pressure, used his legs and used the jab constantly to not let brewster get set.

wlad`s timing was very good .

there were some murmors from the american side of esb saying brewster never tried etc etc, i think they are influenced by american commentary.

i know they were a few weeks ago when many american posters mimicked the commentators who put down castillo ,and thus belittled hatton`s win.

that seems to be happening in some quarter`s in the aftermath of this fight.

IMO brewster of 10 years ago/5 years ago etc etc would have not been able to do a single thing different.
i called a tua v lewis shutout type fight and what happened was even more conclusive.

props to wlad, and i enjoyed the fight.

[Odo]

Marvelous fight, one of his best ever, imo, he stuck to his gameplan, destroyed the man round by round, actually he took him apart, handed him such a onesided beating. What a sight seeing Brewster head snapped back by each of Wlad´s accurate jabs. Such a complete fighter at this stage of his career, outstanding jab, left- right, left hook, single straight right hand thrown over Brewster non existing lead defense. Very good lateral movement that I had hardly seen to this extent by him. He took his time, didnt rush it, even when the ignorant german crowd actually started booing during some of the very few tamer moments in the match.

Wlad redeemed himself big time. He should be considered p4p material now, definitely the best heavy around, undisputedly, but maybe there s more to come, maybe he can become an ATG fighter, hes only 31 after all, thats no age for a heavy, despite the fact he started out very young. I hear you say lets not go overboard with praise now, but I say credit where its due, Wlad had been accused of ducking the fighters that could pose him problems stylewise, well ,he beat peter and now he has dismantled Brwester.

But the question that bothers me, especially seeing that Vitali was labelled a quitter after he had to retire with a torn rotator cuff in the Byrd fight, is, can Brwester be called a quitter now? I know it was McGirt who ended it, not Brewster himself, Lame-an looked fatigued in the interval and hardly able to respond to his coach, and I have little doubt he couldnt have gone on much longer, but what had he been expecting? It was clear Wlad was the technically much better fighter, he had already been just that in the first fight, Brwester had to go for broke if he really intended to win, had to take chances. he was denied just that in the first 6 rounds but he should have kept on trying. Until the very bitter end, which very likely would have seen him in the ring dust.

Brewster - a quitter?


He made Brewster look like a clumsy rookie.Wlad showed an almost flawless performance.Props to Wlad for that fantastic display of the art of boxing!

[Artani]

Come on, man. You told us that 3 million Albanians would be behind Brewster. Now you are calling him a quitter. Should I remind you how Luani Krasniqi quit against Brewster?

Remember first fight Ivo , Brewster was down in round four and he get up and wins match one round later. When he knock down Wladimir he coudent to stay in his legs, his team put cher to sit for little bit , later Wlad coudent to continue. Know Brewster stoped match, unbelive hot do this thinks . He was beaten also by Lykhavoich for 12 rounds and broke his eye and dident stop, also Krasniqi beat him for 9 rounds and dident stop after his wins with Krasniqi he coudent to take high his rams, remember all this fights of Brewster and will say reality.

I think the fight was fixed, i am 1 milion procent sur on that.

[NBT]

You're the one who don't seem to remember the first fight too well yourself, Artani, Wlad wasn't knocked down in the fight he got a standing 8 count and was stopped on his feet.

You want to talk about fixed fights? :yep Remember the 20 second count Krasquitti got against Brewster only to quit soon after anyway? How's that? :tired

[Artani]

You're the one who don't seem to remember the first fight too well yourself, Artani, Wlad wasn't knocked down in the fight he got a standing 8 count and was stopped on his feet.

You want to talk about fixed fights? :yep Remember the 20 second count Krasquitti got against Brewster only to quit soon after anyway? How's that? :tired

Maybe the same this fight was fixed . Krasniqi will beat him, Krasniqi beat Wlad every time . Vitali is diferent story, repect for Vitali .
About first fight Wlad - Brewster , doesent mather that refere count till eight the secand time you will not call knock down when Wlad down and refere coudent to safe him.

The true is that Brewster dident want to fight .....

[Sakura]

Maybe the same this fight was fixed . Krasniqi will beat him, Krasniqi beat Wlad every time . Vitali is diferent story, repect for Vitali .
About first fight Wlad - Brewster , doesent mather that refere count till eight the secand time you will not call knock down when Wlad down and refere coudent to safe him.

The true is that Brewster dident want to fight .....

Don't say it..maybe your dream fight, between Krasnigi and Wladimir come true.

[NBT]

Krasniqi will beat him, Krasniqi beat Wlad every time.
:lol: I'm sure it won't happen since Krasquitti doesn't deserve it, brings less than nothing to the table and would only waste Wlads time but in a sadist kind of way I hope this fight comes off. :yep

[limi_7]

A lot people tend to underestimate krasniqi but he is a solid fighter. HE has skills, tough chin and would give wlad a lot of trouble. If this fight was to happen, I would go with krasniqi.

[limi_7]

It does not suprise me that 3 million Albanians woudl support Brewster over Klitschko. After all are not Albanians the Blacks of Europe.:rofl

First of all, racist comments and prejudice should stay of this forum. YOu should be banned for such statements. By the way no one gives a f**k what you think of albanians, after all ur nothing but a looser, a newbie in this forum so keep ur disturbed opinions to yourself. By the way why would 3 million albanians be rooting for brewster when he KO luan do the math dude. Dont post stupid comments and ask for pity ur disgrace to this forum.

[chliJs]

A lot people tend to underestimate krasniqi but he is a solid fighter. HE has skills, tough chin and would give wlad a lot of trouble. If this fight was to happen, I would go with krasniqi.

i like krasniqi, and i also think he's underrated. but NEVER will he give wlad a lot of trouble. he won't even slightly trouble him.

[Artani]

I first posted on ESB around six years ago. Took a couple years off and was unable to retrieve my prior account. So, I am hardly a newbie. Secondly, it was your Countryman who stated that 3 million Albanians would be supporting Brewster against Wlad. I merely explained the reason, in my own clever way.

If you find my opinions offensive then by all means tell the administrators. In all honesty you would be doing me a favor. Besides, is that not how things work in Albania? You start a conflict and then play the victum when subsequent events do not go your way.

Hopefully the historical interplay of my last comment did not escape you. Oh Know!!! Did I just incur the wrath of the Albanians? It was about time someone stood up to you people. Yet another statement wrought with historical correlations.

Hey you asshole dont givet fuck about albanians and our history.

Fuck off , who cares what you saying , i dont want to speak any more with stupids like you.

Very soon albanians will have two states.

Albania + Kosovo = Big Albania

[Artani]

Krasniqi will take WBO and WBA champions belts and after will unify with Wlad. IN the late 2008 we will have this match.

[dupin]

Krasniqi will take WBO and WBA champions belts and after will unify with Wlad. IN the late 2008 we will have this match.

Stop trolling. :).

[Ivo]

First of all, racist comments and prejudice should stay of this forum. YOu should be banned for such statements. By the way no one gives a f**k what you think of albanians, after all ur nothing but a looser, a newbie in this forum so keep ur disturbed opinions to yourself. By the way why would 3 million albanians be rooting for brewster when he KO luan do the math dude. Dont post stupid comments and ask for pity ur disgrace to this forum.


Your countryman Artani stated in another thread that 3 million Albanians would be behind Brewster in his fight with Wladimir Klitschko. Read the threads before start throwing accusations. Artani stated that about Albanians. Ask him about it.

By the way Luani was not KOed by Brewster. Luani quit. He was knocked down and without waiting for the count he went to his corner in order to quit. The long count in the previous round is another story. Luani has been supported for a long time. Sinan Samil Sam beat him but Luani got the decision. Let’s not forget the struggle against Minto.

If he dares to face Wladimir, he will got knocked out of the ring period. Show some respect for a champion like Wladimir Klitschko.

[Flurry]

:lol: :lol:

WTF has happened to this thread of mine? It was actually supposed to constitute a homage to Klitschko´s marvelous performance in the Brewster rematch. I believe to faintly remember that I went on to raise the question if Brewster can now officially be called a quitter.

As to the latter, Im aware the question is bound to come across as provocative, imo twas correct to stop the fight then and there, but if it had been the other way round with Klitschko s corner throwing in the towel this forum would be quite literally filled to the hilt with "Klitschkos a quitter" threads. :yep Double standards here, well nothing surprising really.

as to Klitschko vs Krasniqi, we ALL know Klitschko would annihilate, obliterate, practically dematerialise Krasniqi, ALL of us know this is the truth and nothing but the truth, so help us god. :D

[Flurry]

and who is suzie and why the hell did she have to edit a post of mine, I didnt ask her to do it.

[albaneze]

This has gone way too far. And i truly believe that there is no Albanian who was supporting Brewster considering the loss that came from him to Luan.

Regarding the comment done by Robson:
It does not suprise me that 3 million Albanians woudl support Brewster over Klitschko. After all are not Albanians the Blacks of Europe.

Well Robson you might be partially right figuratively we might be the black of Europe considering that we can please your wife more than you do. Go and wank somewhere you penciledick.
And dont give me all those whinning and bullshiting ok dont mess with Albanians we screw you up. So stop offending us.
I know that this will be a to be continued thread.

And last but not least congratulations to Wladimir he did fight very good. Brewster fought like a chicken or should i say like the screwed up robson.
I think Brewster did a good thing to quit otherwise he was gonna see himself kissing the canvas for an eternity.

Congrats to Wlad.

[NBT]

WTF has happened to this thread of mine? It was actually supposed to constitute a homage to Klitschko´s marvelous performance in the Brewster rematch. I believe to faintly remember that I went on to raise the question if Brewster can now officially be called a quitter.
What did you expect? There cannot be a thread about quitter without Krasquitti getting the recognition he deserves. :yep

[limi_7]

I first posted on ESB around six years ago. Took a couple years off and was unable to retrieve my prior account. So, I am hardly a newbie. Secondly, it was your Countryman who stated that 3 million Albanians would be supporting Brewster against Wlad. I merely explained the reason, in my own clever way.

If you find my opinions offensive then by all means tell the administrators. In all honesty you would be doing me a favor. Besides, is that not how things work in Albania? You start a conflict and then play the victum when subsequent events do not go your way.

Hopefully the historical interplay of my last comment did not escape you. Oh Know!!! Did I just incur the wrath of the Albanians? It was about time someone stood up to you people. Yet another statement wrought with historical correlations.

I will not argue with you about your opinion towards Albanians, But if you are going to make a statement, make sure they are legitimate. Common dude, how can you say we start a conflict then we play the victim. If u were to study the histroy of the balkan peninsula, you would be suprised to find that we albanians have been oppresed by the serbian regime for a long time. Maybe you're mistaken but we have suffered enough, and finally the people were feed up with bullshit and thats why the conflict started. How would you like for someone to search your house without a notice and a warrant good idea huh?

Don't make false assumptions about albanians being aggressive. The media has confused you, and you probably don't understand the concept of war. Your arguments in general about albanians are fallacious. You are withdrawing concluasions based on this forum, thats vague in my opinion. By all means i'm not aggressive at all, but I will stand for myself at least when you claim and state racist comments about a whole race.

[sean]

and who is suzie and why the hell did she have to edit a post of mine, I didnt ask her to do it.

ESB cleaned its server cache a few months ago and must have deleted thousands and thousands of pages but for some reason the pages that were wiped still have the edit time and date on which the previous poster used.

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i thought it strange as well, but they have not been edited.

[Flurry]

What did you expect? There cannot be a thread about quitter without Krasquitti getting the recognition he deserves. :yep

:yep Now that you mention it, the quitting in the Saleta fight indeed was a disgrace, to his credit, he set the record straight in the return fight though. But it this will remain to be a stain on his record forever, I fear. He hadnt even been floored up to the point of quitting, was actually leading on the cards.

[Flurry]

ESB cleaned its server cache a few months ago and must have deleted thousands and thousands of pages but for some reason the pages that were wiped still have the edit time and date on which the previous poster used.

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i thought it strange as well, but they have not been edited.


Alright, good to know :good