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CANNONBALL
07-08-2007, 05:36 PM
Who Wins This Potentially Explosive Encounter Between Two Fast,powerful But Not The Most Durable Southpaws?

RAMPAGE0017
07-08-2007, 05:41 PM
Moorer.

Sanders, while tough and power, was sloppy. I think Moorer takes this by a stoppage in the 7th.

bmf95b
07-08-2007, 07:12 PM
Damn... These Ol' Farts don't know when to stop.

Bummy Davis
07-08-2007, 07:52 PM
Sanders by ko

rekcutnevets
07-08-2007, 08:43 PM
I like Sanders by ko, as well.

Michael Moorer could get cranked up if you hit him, hurt him, but didn't knock him out. He would just have a hard time finding Sanders in this fight.

When southpaws face right handed fighters, whoever has the lead foot on the outside is lined up to land power punches. Whoever has the lead foot on the inside is lined up for the jab. A lot of people don't notice when they are lined up for the jab, because of all the attention on foot placement.

All of these things are gone in this fight. Moorer's power punches don't line up to land. These two are lined up like to orthodox fighters would be. Moorer would have problems with Sanders boxing ability, and height.

Luigi1985
07-09-2007, 11:47 AM
Cīmon guys, damn, how overrated is Sanders now because of his victory over Wladimir, Moorer was one class above Corrie...


Moorer TKO 7 Sanders

KOTF
04-05-2010, 03:34 AM
Moorer TKO 9

lefthook31
04-05-2010, 07:38 AM
Sanders has close to no chance. Moorer beats him to a pulp.

joe the great
04-05-2010, 07:41 AM
Moorer was way more talented than Sanders. He would knock out Sanders.

Boxed Ears
04-05-2010, 08:23 AM
This thread is an insult to Michael Moorer. No offense to the golfing great.

red cobra
04-05-2010, 09:10 AM
Sanders would find that fragile chin of Moorer's and get a hole in one..believe it.

Boxed Ears
04-05-2010, 09:15 AM
Sanders would find that fragile chin of Moorer's and get a hole in one..believe it.

No. :lol:

TBooze
04-05-2010, 09:25 AM
Moorer by super safety first decision; according to Steward, Moorer hated getting tagged, so it is unlikely he would take too many risks against the South African.

red cobra
04-05-2010, 09:27 AM
No. :lol:
The oft knocked down Michael Moorer would be hit by a fast, hard hitting, big fellow southpaw and would be ko'ed like he was when similarly cracked by Foreman, Tua and Holyfield. Don't be delusional about Moorer..he was a good, not great heavyweight who had a fragile chin, and Corrie Sanders could punch..he even came close to decking Vitali. Moorer's chin was his undoing.

Boxed Ears
04-05-2010, 09:50 AM
The oft knocked down Michael Moorer would be hit by a fast, hard hitting, big fellow southpaw and would be ko'ed like he was when similarly cracked by Foreman, Tua and Holyfield. Don't be delusional about Moorer..he was a good, not great heavyweight who had a fragile chin, and Corrie Sanders could punch..he even came close to decking Vitali. Moorer's chin was his undoing.

I tried to stick my fingers in my ears and go "blah blah blah" but then I realized that wouldn't work since I was reading what you wrote as opposed to listening to it.

mr. magoo
04-05-2010, 09:58 AM
Good match up and probably a very entertaining fight.. The fans are likely to get their money's worth if these two ever met in their primes...

Even though Corrie had faster hands, along with enough power to dispatch Moorer, I would probably favor Michael. I think too much is weighed into Sander's victory over Wlad and Moorer's loss to Foreman, but not enough analysis is being touched upon when looking at the rest of their careers.. Sanders fought very few quality men, and didn't come back to win when he got in trouble.. Moorer rose off the canvas to win a few times in his career, took some big shots from Cooper, Stewart, an aging Smith and a few others, and also beat better men in Frans Botha, Axel Schultz and even a less than fabulous Holyfield... Sanders had one big moment, along with several wins over some upper tier journeyman, but not much else.

Moorer was more athletic and could either beat a guy early or stop him late... He also had better skills than Corrie, albeit close. Corrie had stamina issues and could never be accurately predicted to show up in shape. If we're honest, Moorer really only lost to quality fighters in his career, while Sanders sometimes fell short against lesser men...

mr. magoo
04-05-2010, 10:05 AM
The oft knocked down Michael Moorer would be hit by a fast, hard hitting, big fellow southpaw and would be ko'ed like he was when similarly cracked by Foreman, Tua and Holyfield. Don't be delusional about Moorer..he was a good, not great heavyweight who had a fragile chin, and Corrie Sanders could punch..he even came close to decking Vitali. Moorer's chin was his undoing.


Sanders would have a good chance if he got Michael early, but I don't know if he sould be favored.. Sanders was dropped in two rounds by Nate Tubbs who wasn't even within seeing distance of world rankings. Moorer mainly lost to elite level fighters, and the Tua fight happened when he was way past it. Moorer rose off the canvas to win fights and had better stamina, whereas Sanders fell short in these areas.. If Corrie could duplicate his performance against Wlad with Moorer, then I think he'd win, but that was one fight in a career consisting of nearly 50 pro bouts, and I also think that fight had just as much to do with Wlad's complacency as it did Sander's having a career showing.

Boxed Ears
04-05-2010, 10:10 AM
In short, Moorer was far superior to Sanders and proved it throughout his career. ...So, really, barring a Wladish knockout Sanders is not logically to be favored.

mr. magoo
04-05-2010, 10:13 AM
In short, Moorer was far superior to Sanders and proved it throughout his career. ...So, really, barring a Wladish knockout Sanders is not logically to be favored.


Agreed,

These two men had a combined record of over 100 pro fights, and frankly I don't see how anyone can make one of them the favorite based on a single performance.

Son of Gaul
04-05-2010, 10:59 AM
Damn... These Ol' Farts don't know when to stop.
:lol:

lefthook31
04-05-2010, 11:04 AM
In short, Moorer was far superior to Sanders and proved it throughout his career. ...So, really, barring a Wladish knockout Sanders is not logically to be favored.
Yes Sanders has a punchers chance, little else.

Seamus
04-05-2010, 11:24 AM
I actually think Sanders was the more talented of the two- blessed with great speed and excellent power, but Moorer was far more polished. Give Sanders some committed time with Manny and this one goes his way. As it was in reality, I probably would not put money on either fighter. Moorer had a shaky beard and Sanders, very tough, lost his composure later in fights.

PowerPuncher
04-05-2010, 11:30 AM
Sanders early speed/intensity and big power could result in an early KO for the South African given Moorers shaky chin. After the first 2-3 rounds though Sanders can tire and if Moorer is still in it he'd likely take over and win a UD

mr. magoo
04-05-2010, 11:32 AM
Sanders early speed/intensity and big power could result in an early KO for the South African given Moorers shaky chin. After the first 2-3 rounds though Sanders can tire and if Moorer is still in it he'd likely take over and win a UD


Indeed,

Moorer was only taken out in the early rounds once in nearly 60 pro fights, and that was when he was well past his prime and facing David Tua, who I think is a much better fighter than Sanders anyway. An early 90's version of Michael Moorer was dangerous in the opening rounds, and even if he got decked, could rise off the canvas to win - something that I'm not sure Sanders was capable of... Moorer should be favored, but I say that with no real conviction.

Seamus
04-05-2010, 11:38 AM
Indeed,

Moorer was only taken out in the early rounds once in nearly 60 pro fights, and that was when he was well past his prime and facing David Tua, who I think is a much better fighter than Sanders anyway. An early 90's version of Michael Moorer was dangerous in the opening rounds, and even if he got decked, could rise off the canvas to win - something that I'm not sure Sanders was capable of... Moorer should be favored, but I say that with no real conviction.

Agreed. However, if a motivated Sanders (that almost makes me laugh to put into words) replaces Botha in their fight, I think Sanders has a good chance to win.

This fight is a win-win situation for the spectator. Two quick, powerful and somewhat delicate heavyweights.

mr. magoo
04-05-2010, 11:42 AM
Agreed. However, if a motivated Sanders (that almost makes me laugh to put into words) replaces Botha in their fight, I think Sanders has a good chance to win.

This fight is a win-win situation for the spectator. Two quick, powerful and somewhat delicate heavyweights.


I would never discount Sanders has having a puncher's chance. He had very fast hands and a huge punche... Couple this with Moorer's chin, and it could be a nasty combination.

Muchmoore
04-05-2010, 12:45 PM
Moorer's chin wasn't great but it's not a given that you win by KO against him if you're a puncher. Bert Cooper had an up and down career but when at his best he was lethal, and he was certainly at his best against Moorer but still got stopped in one of my favorite HW fights.
Moorer fought a higher level of competition and like people have already said, never lost to the likes of Nate Tubbs.

Sanders has a shot early but I think the Wlad fight was a bit of a fluke and a case of styles as well. If you hurt Wlad during that stage in his career you had him beat. Anyway, I give Sanders about a 30% chance of stopping him early but Moorer stops him around 7 or 8 more often than not.

red cobra
04-05-2010, 12:47 PM
I tried to stick my fingers in my ears and go "blah blah blah" but then I realized that wouldn't work since I was reading what you wrote as opposed to listening to it.
Very astute of you:patsch

kinski
07-11-2010, 04:02 PM
Sanders by TKO had 2 much speed and power.

SuzieQ49
07-11-2010, 04:28 PM
Sanders by TKO had 2 much speed and power.

:lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl

Terror
07-11-2010, 04:50 PM
Moorer UD. I really think the gap in class here is a big one. Corrie was a puncher with some quick fists but to think that he'd have a chance outside of the first few rounds would be difficult.

kinski
07-11-2010, 05:03 PM
Ross purity would beat moore! Sanders also stopped Cooper.

Son of Gaul
07-11-2010, 05:18 PM
Who Wins This Potentially Explosive Encounter Between Two Fast,powerful But Not The Most Durable Southpaws?

Moorer, although I've noticed that I rate Moorer much higher h2h than others on this site. He had prodigious power in his left and was a very good boxer overall. His only weakness was that he always seemed to get lazy with opponents he knew he could KO... He'd just wait and wait and wait for an opportuntiy to land that mighty left of his. In the process of doing this, he'd often make a fight that should be one-sided, VERY competitive...:-(

Seamus
07-11-2010, 07:08 PM
If that was Sanders in the ring instead of Botha against Moorer, Sanders would have been a champ a lot earlier.

he grant
07-11-2010, 07:59 PM
Sanders was a poorly motivated , under achiever to me ... however stylistically he has a decent shot early given the fact Moorer has a so-so chin ... I'd favor Moorer but would not bet it ...

DamonD
07-12-2010, 08:12 AM
Could see it a bit like Sanders-Rahman (or even Moorer-Cooper if you like).

Moorer hurt and possibly down early on, but fights back as Super Southpaw Corrie Sanders can't keep the pace up and get clobbered by the middle rounds.

Boxed Ears
07-12-2010, 09:08 AM
Moorer, although I've noticed that I rate Moorer much higher h2h than others on this site. He had prodigious power in his left and was a very good boxer overall. His only weakness was that he always seemed to get lazy with opponents he knew he could KO... He'd just wait and wait and wait for an opportuntiy to land that mighty left of his. In the process of doing this, he'd often make a fight that should be one-sided, VERY competitive...:-(

That's how I feel, that I rate him higher H2H than most, but it's because I operate under the assumption that the two fighters are bringing their respective A-level games that they've shown and not their lesser performances.

frankenfrank
07-14-2010, 04:57 AM
In short, Moorer was far superior to Sanders and proved it throughout his career. ...So, really, barring a Wladish knockout Sanders is not logically to be favored.
Not far for sure. I am not predicting an outcome in this one , but it is close and could go either way.

zadfrak
07-18-2010, 04:43 AM
I just don't see Moorer being effective against a tall heavyweight that fights tall. I never thought Moorer had any chance whatsoever against Lewis when that bout was being somewhat discussed.

Even the light versions of Moorer at heavy--when he bothered to use his legs--is still in that danger perimeter opponents of a Corrie Sanders don't want to be in. MM fought upright and didn't bob and weave his way in there or get low and spring up like a Tyson. He didn't bend at the waist like he at LH. I just see that as a style playing right into Sanders.

Moorer is going to have to close the gap to land anything on the guy. And if Moorer backs up I think he definately gets caught because he always moved that right foot of his real funny and awkward when he did back up. the first backstep was ok, but that 2nd step was always painful to watch. And a big window for certain opponents. When he went forward, those Moorer legs were good but I never ever liked them backing up and re-setting. That's what got him killed against Tua. That flaw of backing up. Just so ugly and he became a much easier target to hit in there. And he is a converted LH afterall and fighting the tall heavies like a Lewis or Klitschko or Sanders are really a tough task for Moorer & other matches where he can reach his opponent easily are much better for him.

And Moorer is not shaking off a straight untelegraphed left hand from this guy and surviving. It won't be a Stewart or Cooper wide looping shot doing the damage. It'll be a straight down the pipe on a shorter opponent trying to work his way in. I think it lands within the first 5 minutes of the fight & like lots of those Sanders fights, if a guy cannot deal with him early & needs time to adjust, he becomes a highlight reel ko victim. And Sanders has a ton of brutal early ko's that are of that variety.

Boxed Ears
07-18-2010, 05:41 AM
Not far for sure. I am not predicting an outcome in this one , but it is close and could go either way.

That's enough out of you. :lol:

Flea Man
07-18-2010, 06:52 AM
Sanders gets massively overrated still.

Moorer would demolish him.

sitiyzal
07-18-2010, 07:58 AM
Moorer was far more skilled. Why all the emphasis on Moorer's chin? Sanders was destroyed by Nate Tubbs and dropped by the likes of Michael Sprott & Arthur Weathers :rofl. I'd pick Moorer to school him.

kinski
07-18-2010, 05:27 PM
Sprott didn't drop Sanders it was the other way around. His chin was better then Moores. Everyone seems to forget Moore was never an actual heavyweight either.

sitiyzal
07-18-2010, 05:37 PM
Sprott didn't drop Sanders it was the other way around. His chin was better then Moores. Everyone seems to forget Moore was never an actual heavyweight either.

You're right. He got tagged pretty good but didn't go down. I always thought he took a count :huh. My bad.

Bonecrusher
07-18-2010, 05:46 PM
Moorer's chin wasn't great but it's not a given that you win by KO against him if you're a puncher. Bert Cooper had an up and down career but when at his best he was lethal, and he was certainly at his best against Moorer but still got stopped in one of my favorite HW fights.

I agree, the Moorer-Cooper fight is epic one of my all time faves, Alex Stewart was also a big puncher and he also stunned Moorer but couldn't finish him. Michael when hurt would usually come back and hurt you, just like he did in the Cooper and Stewart fights. Sanders would have the punchers chance all the way through but I feel as though Moorer either wins on points or stops Sanders late.

kinski
07-18-2010, 06:16 PM
Sanders was TKO by Rahman not Ko'd. He gassed out while he was ahead on points. Moore wasn't bad by any means. Either Klitschko was destroy him. Moore was ko'd more then Sanders also not to mention he stopped Cooper in 3 rounds.

Russell
07-18-2010, 06:42 PM
Sanders was TKO by Rahman not Ko'd. He gassed out while he was ahead on points. Moore wasn't bad by any means. Either Klitschko was destroy him. Moore was ko'd more then Sanders also not to mention he stopped Cooper in 3 rounds.

Moorer was a giant slayer! He nearly killed the 6'10, 275 lb Mike White!

Vitali wouldn't stand a chance.

SuzieQ49
07-18-2010, 06:56 PM
If you look at the pre fight introduction...The top of Moorer's head only reach's white's chest! White looked scary eying him down.

kinski
07-18-2010, 09:01 PM
Whos ever heard of Mike White? Some tomato can. Ur comparing him 2 the klitschkos?! LOL.

kinski
08-13-2010, 02:28 PM
Not mention Moore fought a life and death fight with Bert Cooper who Sanders made quit which is on youtube.