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MSTR
02-10-2008, 09:30 PM
Okay, second one of these threads today. Chad Dawson, is a fantastic talent, and one who seems to have flown under the radar for the majority of boxing fans. His silkly smooth skills remind me of watching guys like Roy Jones Jr, Pernell Whitaker, Floyd Mayweather ect ect. His movement, defense, the way he puts his punches together, his slick counter punching is all at an elite level no doubt. Furthermore, the way he dominated a genuine world class fighter in Adamek showed that he can both handle the big fight pressure, and that he is a level above the other fighters currently within the division. Still, there are those who still doubt him. Who think he is living off a great performance, or has a suspect chin. So to get an idea of what the forum thinks, please choose from the poll which fighters you believe he could beat, and once again if you don't think he could beat any, simply post none in the thread below. Thanks. Look forward to hearing your thoughts, on any of the potential match ups.

bigeddie27
02-10-2008, 09:35 PM
I dont see any poll but yeah he's a beast. Hes gonna retire glenn johnson and then calzaghe. Yeah he's Joe's krptonite all day, southpaw vs southpaw. Joe's an ATG great too. Future p4p. I dont think he's underrated though, if anything everyone respects his skills. He just doesnt have the exposure yet to be mainstream.

Superheavyweight
02-10-2008, 09:37 PM
The guy is so complete for such a young fighter... take Hopkins and Calzaghe out of the equation and no-one can beat him @ 175 lbs.

He definitely has the frame to go up to 200 lbs.

Boxing Ace
02-10-2008, 09:42 PM
I agree with your assessment. I have been saying to anyone who will listen that the only fighters between 160-175 who I would pick to beat JC is Dawson and Pavlik. If the best fighters out there do not duck him, he will be top 5 p4p in a couple of years.

Rock0052
02-10-2008, 10:32 PM
He's underrated by most of boxing's mainstream, yet I feel he's getting overrated on this board. I still don't like his chin. I don't think he beats Calzaghe or Kessler. Other than that? Very good fighter.There's no reason he shouldn't be a champion or contender at 175 over the next few years, though.

Nalian
02-10-2008, 11:29 PM
He's severely overated on this board.

His defence is poor, and he has a VERY questionable chin.

The excuses I hear; oh anyone would have gone down from them shots -

No they wouldnt have.

Sweet Pea
02-10-2008, 11:32 PM
The guy is so complete for such a young fighter... take Hopkins and Calzaghe out of the equation and no-one can beat him @ 175 lbs.

He definitely has the frame to go up to 200 lbs. Will you people stop acting like Hopkins is still elite? I guess you'll all see against Calzaghe.

MSTR
02-10-2008, 11:36 PM
Brooklyn1550, I noticed you didn't have Dawson winning against either Kessler or Calzaghe. What are your thoughts on these match ups?

MSTR
02-10-2008, 11:37 PM
Sweet Pea, it appears you believe Dawson will have trouble moving up in weight. Is this due to his chin, or some other reason. How do you see guys like Bell, Haye and Cunningham beating him?

Sweet Pea
02-10-2008, 11:39 PM
Sweet Pea, it appears you believe Dawson will have trouble moving up in weight. Is this due to his chin, or some other reason. How do you see guys like Bell, Haye and Cunningham beating him?I just reserve those picks until he's proven himself at higher weights. Based on skill, I rate him above them all(although I haven't seen much Cunningham) but again, just not sure yet how he could deal with moviing up. His chin may be an issue as well.

Sister Sledge
02-10-2008, 11:54 PM
I've only saw one of Dawson's fights, and he looked awsome, with a great combination of speed, power, and boxing ability. I have him beating only three of the boxers in the poll because I haven't seen enough of him. He definately has ATG potential. Only time will tell.

Superheavyweight
02-11-2008, 12:00 AM
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lefty
02-11-2008, 12:02 AM
He's severely overated on this board.

His defence is poor, and he has a VERY questionable chin.

The excuses I hear; oh anyone would have gone down from them shots -

No they wouldnt have.

His defence is poor? He has great foot and head movement and is an offensive fighter but his defence is top notch, he can get abit careless when he is dominating because he knows he can handle whatever is coming at him which is what happened when he got caught flush by Adamek. Was he hurt when he went down? No he wasn't, which is why it gets annoying when people such as yourself go on about him having a questionable chin whenever Chad Dawsons name comes up, i'm willing to bet guys like you have only ever seen the Adamek fight and its the 'right' thing to say Dawson is chinny. Some people even bring up the Harding knockdown when Dawson was knocked off-balance by a jab as evidence of his weak chin, which is ridiculous.

Ali,Hopkins,Toney,Whitaker etc. all got knocked down at different stages of their careers, do you think they had questionable chins aswell? I haven't seen the first knockdown of Chads career but judging by the way Dawson responded to getting caught flush and dropped by Adamek i think it's safe to say Dawson has a great chin if anything.

And it's safe to say anybody who thinks Chad Dawson has a suspect chin does not know boxing and should be ignored.

Superheavyweight
02-11-2008, 12:05 AM
His chin is the only worry... but his skills are immense.

klion22
02-11-2008, 12:05 AM
He's severely overated on this board.

His defence is poor, and he has a VERY questionable chin.

The excuses I hear; oh anyone would have gone down from them shots -

No they wouldnt have.

Yes, his chin is a question and his defense is questionable. But isn't the defense of any fighter that is willing to take chances questionable? They are willing to be hit to get in their shots. That is what makes Dawson fun to watch. He is willing to get hit to get in his shots. Maybe a bit too much for his own good as he has the talent to outbox anyone at his weight. But the guy is a talent. Until someone comes in and outclasses him, i'm of the opinion that this guy is the real deal.

He would beat Hopkins to a UD IMO. He would give Calzaghe fits.

lefty
02-11-2008, 12:18 AM
His chin is the only worry... but his skills are immense.

How is his chin a worry? Look at that video you posted, how was Chads eyes and legs looking after the knockdown? Absolutely fucking fine, a guy is chinny if he gets hurt all the time, Chad Dawson doesn't get hurt. Look at how Dawson gets hit solidly with 18 seconds to go in the round, the same round where some people think he was hurt, no reaction from Dawson, he must have some incredible recuperating powers then hey guys. Notice after the knockdown him still fighting like he had before the knockdown, not going into a shell and still being the more offensive fighter. The evidence is overwhelming.

lefty
02-11-2008, 12:21 AM
Also i don't think Dawson has the body to be really effective at higher weights, yeah he's 6'3 but he has a small build apart from his arms, he did fight at middle and super-middle.

LockDog387
02-11-2008, 12:24 AM
I don't know about underrated, but Chad Dawson definitely deserves more hype than that overrated fighter Paul Williams. And unlike Paul Williams Chad Dawson is highly techincally skilled.

MSTR
02-11-2008, 01:27 AM
Although I don't think Dawson has the build for the higher weights at this point, he is more skilled then any of the guys at Cruiser for sure. I think this would get him through. Will be very interested to see how Adamek performs at these higher weights.

196osh
02-11-2008, 03:30 AM
BLOODLUST, klion22, Kostya Zoo, lefty, lucasehr, Symphenyceo.......................

Lads wtf.

lefty
02-11-2008, 05:02 AM
Although I don't think Dawson has the build for the higher weights at this point, he is more skilled then any of the guys at Cruiser for sure. I think this would get him through. Will be very interested to see how Adamek performs at these higher weights.

Yeah he definitely has the skills but he may get outmuscled by a natural Cruiser, won't really know until it happens. Yeah watching Adamek at Cruiser might give a fair indication how Dawson might go since they both appeared to be around the same strength/size in their fight at light heavy.

lefty
02-11-2008, 05:08 AM
BLOODLUST, klion22, Kostya Zoo, lefty, lucasehr, Symphenyceo.......................

Lads wtf.

I'm guessing it's because i said he beats Roy Jones at light-heavy?

First of all Jones had problems with Harding and Tarver so we know he'd have more problems with a rangier more athletic guy than those two and secondly Roy Jones was no superman at light-heavy, he couldn't really take guys out anymore and his footwork wasn't as good as when he was at middle/super-middle.

Prime Jones super-middle vs Dawson? I say 50/50, Jones was superman at that weight but on paper Dawson has the kryptonite for Jones style so who knows.

Daft P
02-11-2008, 05:13 AM
To be honest I actually find Dawson a bit overrated... His whole reputation is basedon his performance against an also overrated Adamek... Since then he fought only bums.

He is talented and skilled, and in 1-2 years probably the best in LHW but not yet. Johnson and afterwards Diaconu will show how good he is in fact.

There was a lot of hype around Adamek 1 year ago and we all saw what happened... that's it.

ThePlugInBabies
02-11-2008, 05:34 AM
faaaarking hell.

haye? if you threw dawson up to CW now and put him in the ring with haye he'd be lucky to last 3 rounds.

kid needs more time.

randeris
02-11-2008, 07:07 AM
talentwise, he is very good, but his chin is questionable at best: KD'ed by Eric Harding, LMW Willie Lee and ofcourse Tomasz Adamek..

lefty
02-11-2008, 07:08 AM
talentwise, he is very good, but his chin is questionable at best: KD'ed by Eric Harding, LMW Willie Lee and ofcourse Tomasz Adamek..

Kill yourself

Gneus7
02-11-2008, 07:13 AM
Definately over-rated on this board

rusticraver
02-11-2008, 07:17 AM
faaaarking hell.

haye? if you threw dawson up to CW now and put him in the ring with haye he'd be lucky to last 3 rounds.

kid needs more time.

I know, Haye would fucking kill Dawson

lefty
02-11-2008, 07:25 AM
Definately over-rated on this board

Talk about overrated, how about that midget ex-ballerina in your avatar.

Gneus7
02-11-2008, 07:36 AM
Talk about overrated, how about that midget ex-ballerina in your avatar.

Wow, you know nothing about boxing or hip hop. :patsch

yoshimura
02-11-2008, 07:58 AM
The Adamek I saw in that fight completely disregarded what his corner was telling him to do, had a much lower workrate than usual and generally fought much differently than he usually does.
Sure Dawson won the fight and Ill give him props for that but I would bet on Adamek in a rematch so long as McDirt isnt training him. Dawson is unproven in my book.

Faetter_BR
02-11-2008, 08:04 AM
I think Dawson looks good - but he hasn't really faced anyone you could pressure him yet - and still he has been down three times in 25 fights.

Lets see him against the elite before passing judgement.

About his chin - Light middleweight Willie Lee had him down - Harding had him down from a jab! - up against the top contenders it will be a question of time before he gets stopped. I'm not sold on him at all - and that anyone can have him beating RJJ is beyond me...

lefty
02-11-2008, 08:36 AM
Wow, you know nothing about boxing or hip hop. :patsch

Guarantee you i know a hell of alot more than you about both subjects.

2pac was shit, face it. The only half decent album of his was Me Against the world, everything after that was midget dancer who carries crates for digital underground shouting out westside and thuglife even though he came from a private drama school in the east, the little pussy tried being a gangbanger and he got banged out, fuck him and his music.

lefty
02-11-2008, 08:41 AM
I think Dawson looks good - but he hasn't really faced anyone you could pressure him yet - and still he has been down three times in 25 fights.

Lets see him against the elite before passing judgement.

About his chin - Light middleweight Willie Lee had him down - Harding had him down from a jab! - up against the top contenders it will be a question of time before he gets stopped. I'm not sold on him at all - and that anyone can have him beating RJJ is beyond me...

Have you seen Dawson hurt? Nuff said.

MacManJr.
02-11-2008, 08:41 AM
I actually think he is overrated just like I said Paul Williams was.

lefty
02-11-2008, 08:45 AM
I actually think he is overrated just like I said Paul Williams was.

Based on.................................?

MacManJr.
02-11-2008, 08:48 AM
Based on.................................?Now before you go nuts I think he is good. I'm not calling him a bum at all. I'm just asking who has he beaten? Too many people on here are ready to crown him king of the world too soon.

Faetter_BR
02-11-2008, 09:11 AM
Have you seen Dawson hurt? Nuff said.

Yep I've seen him hurt - by a lightmiddleweight - what do you think a boxer like prime RJJ or Haye would do to him??? - Nuff said.

joekirkbycobra
02-11-2008, 09:14 AM
i think he is a fantastic fighter and will be a top p4p one too but not right now due to opposition and lack of good ones but its early days he will take the light heavys by storm

LockDog387
02-11-2008, 09:15 AM
Chad Dawson is legit and is the real deal, although I can understand if some people doubt him since he hasn't fought any top opposition since his win against Adamek. But anyways Dawson does everything Paul Williams doesn't. Dawson has a great right jab, (one of the best jabs in boxing) has great defense, and basically has all the basic fundamentls down, Dawson can do everything. In his fight against Adamek he threw a right hook, a left cross, than a right hook to the body all in rapid secession, not many boxers can do that. He isn't a head hunter either, has a great right hook to the body. Dawson is way more technically skilled than Paul Williams, hell saying Dawson is just technically better than Paul Williams would be an understatement, I would say Dawson is one of the top 5 technical boxers today, that's how good he is.

LockDog387
02-11-2008, 09:19 AM
Dawson deserves hype because he's just one of the best technically skilled boxers today, not Paul Williams.

Pimp C
02-11-2008, 09:23 AM
Wow! I fucked up when I voted in this poll and didn't read the question right. He beats them all except a prime Roy Jones and the cruisers IMO.

Superheavyweight
02-11-2008, 11:36 AM
Yep I've seen him hurt - by a lightmiddleweight - what do you think a boxer like prime RJJ or Haye would do to him??? - Nuff said.You could argue that Haye was hurt by a Super Middleweight.

teke
02-11-2008, 12:05 PM
He looks like he will grow out of LHW in the near future.

PolishPummler
02-11-2008, 12:13 PM
Hes not underrated he just needs a few more big fights to see where he stands.

Rock0052
02-11-2008, 01:12 PM
Seeing as how he's beaten one good (not great) opponent, and suddenly he's the favorite against hall of famers and drawing comparisons to ATG's, yes, that is the exact definition of overrated. I agree with you PolishPummeler, he's not underrated on this board. He'll get more mainstream boxing attention as he steps his competition up.

Faetter_BR
02-11-2008, 01:18 PM
You could argue that Haye was hurt by a Super Middleweight.

You mean Thompson???

Faetter_BR
02-11-2008, 01:18 PM
Seeing as how he's beaten one good (not great) opponent, and suddenly he's the favorite against hall of famers and drawing comparisons to ATG's, yes, that is the exact definition of overrated. I agree with you PolishPummeler, he's not underrated on this board. He'll get more mainstream boxing attention as he steps his competition up.

:good

Superheavyweight
02-11-2008, 01:26 PM
You mean Thompson???No... Thompson was a natural 180 lbs fighter... I meant Lolenga Mock.

Faetter_BR
02-11-2008, 01:49 PM
No... Thompson was a natural 180 lbs fighter... I meant Lolenga Mock.

ok - well Haye hasn't got granit either - no doubt, but he has great power and he is much more proven than Dawson. Dawson is very skilled, but actually not that powerfull. My money will be on a KO-victory for Haye if that fight was to come of.

One little thing about Dawson ... what's with his last few opponents - I mean Jesus Ruiz - that's a "Mundine-defense" :(

val
02-11-2008, 02:34 PM
Dawson is underrated by many. I mean people who say he's another Lacy or Williams.
I think he's great and his skills are outstanding. I don't see any fighter beating Dawson on points. He can be KO'ed by a lucky punch and it takes quite a big puncher to get it done.
Calzaghe might be able to give him a tough fight but still Chad has got something Calzaghe hasn't - youth and explosiveness.

ralphc
02-11-2008, 03:01 PM
It is not clear if Dawson could beat Calzaghe or Cunningham but the rest should be easy. I suspect Calzaghe or Cunningham don't want to find out. Dawson is going to have to sell more tickets before the big names will face him in the ring. In his next fight beating Glenn Johnson isn't enough, Dawson has to get a spectacular knockout if he wants to excite the interest by the fans. Jonhnson is coming to the end of his career and is long past his prime. Dawson can't expect to have any fights easier than Johnson.

Faetter_BR
02-11-2008, 03:50 PM
It is not clear if Dawson could beat Calzaghe or Cunningham but the rest should be easy. I suspect Calzaghe or Cunningham don't want to find out. Dawson is going to have to sell more tickets before the big names will face him in the ring. In his next fight beating Glenn Johnson isn't enough, Dawson has to get a spectacular knockout if he wants to excite the interest by the fans. Jonhnson is coming to the end of his career and is long past his prime. Dawson can't expect to have any fights easier than Johnson.

Let me get this strait ... you think he would beat a prime RJJ with ease???

LockDog387
02-11-2008, 04:07 PM
ok - well Haye hasn't got granit either - no doubt, but he has great power and he is much more proven than Dawson. Dawson is very skilled, but actually not that powerfull. My money will be on a KO-victory for Haye if that fight was to come of.

One little thing about Dawson ... what's with his last few opponents - I mean Jesus Ruiz - that's a "Mundine-defense" :(

Dawson has very good power, he made Adamek respect his punches, and you know Adamek has an iron chin. I'll agree with you Haye will beat Dawson at this point, but I see Dawson fighting in the LHW division for a long time, if Tarver can make LHW for years, than so can Dawson. Besides their is no money to be made in the cruiserweight division.

LockDog387
02-11-2008, 04:15 PM
Seeing as how he's beaten one good (not great) opponent, and suddenly he's the favorite against hall of famers and drawing comparisons to ATG's, yes, that is the exact definition of overrated. I agree with you PolishPummeler, he's not underrated on this board. He'll get more mainstream boxing attention as he steps his competition up.

I don't think Dawson is overrated at all, unlike Williams he actually has skills, great skills I might add. People make comparisons to Pavlik against ATG's and people still don't think he's overrated. And Pavlik has beaten only two big names (Taylor and Miranda) while Dawson has also beaten two names as well. (Harding and Adamek) Besides Dawson isn't talked about that much in this forum, some people don't even recgonize him as a top LHW. I think he's under the radar when talking about the top boxers today.

Weber
02-11-2008, 05:13 PM
Anyone putting their money on Dawson vs. Prime Rjj is simply a moron.

sues2nd
02-11-2008, 05:16 PM
I like Dawson alot, but that is a TOUGH list to choose wins from. I mean tough.

lefty
02-11-2008, 06:19 PM
Anyone putting their money on Dawson vs. Prime Rjj is simply a moron.

Not at all, how did Jones go against Harding? He had some problems and Harding isn't half the fighter Dawson is, If Dawson fought Jones there is no way he could lose if he utilised his reach, you saw Tarver do the same thing in their first fight then he would trap Jones on the ropes and throw flurries, something that Jones has ALWAYS been susceptible to, and Dawson throws great combinations to the body and head on the inside.

People need to stop acting like Jones was unbeatable at light heavy, he looked really average in a few fights at that weight and didn't have the same power or footwork he had at the lower weights.

Anyone putting their money on Jones v Dawson is simply a moron who hasn't been following boxing long enough. That was one of the easiest choices on that poll, the only ones i had trouble with were the cruiserweight fights and to a lesser extent Calzaghe.

bestdefense117
02-11-2008, 06:22 PM
This guys a good fighter, even Tarver wants nothing to do with him.

Axe
02-11-2008, 06:47 PM
This guys a good fighter, even Tarver wants nothing to do with him.

"Even" Tarver? :lol:

Tarver was one of the easiest choices on that list. Prime Tarver, current Johnson, Kessler, Diaconu, and yes, even ol' Popkins are all safe UD type of wins for Dawson at this stage.

Calzaghe (due to his style) and Bell (due to his explosive power) are the less predictable questionmarks, whereas prime RJJ, Haye, and Cunningham are just outside of Dawson's reach, imo.

MSTR
02-11-2008, 09:31 PM
Chad Dawson is legit and is the real deal, although I can understand if some people doubt him since he hasn't fought any top opposition since his win against Adamek. But anyways Dawson does everything Paul Williams doesn't. Dawson has a great right jab, (one of the best jabs in boxing) has great defense, and basically has all the basic fundamentls down, Dawson can do everything. In his fight against Adamek he threw a right hook, a left cross, than a right hook to the body all in rapid secession, not many boxers can do that. He isn't a head hunter either, has a great right hook to the body. Dawson is way more technically skilled than Paul Williams, hell saying Dawson is just technically better than Paul Williams would be an understatement, I would say Dawson is one of the top 5 technical boxers today, that's how good he is.

Good post. Nice to see someone actually analysing ability, rather then shouting out "who has he beaten".

Sister Sledge
02-11-2008, 10:28 PM
Not at all, how did Jones go against Harding? He had some problems and Harding isn't half the fighter Dawson is, If Dawson fought Jones there is no way he could lose if he utilised his reach, you saw Tarver do the same thing in their first fight then he would trap Jones on the ropes and throw flurries, something that Jones has ALWAYS been susceptible to, and Dawson throws great combinations to the body and head on the inside.

People need to stop acting like Jones was unbeatable at light heavy, he looked really average in a few fights at that weight and didn't have the same power or footwork he had at the lower weights.

Anyone putting their money on Jones v Dawson is simply a moron who hasn't been following boxing long enough. That was one of the easiest choices on that poll, the only ones i had trouble with were the cruiserweight fights and to a lesser extent Calzaghe.

You are correct that Jones was beatable at Light Heavy. I don't know if Dawson could beat a prime Jones now, but in a few years, who knows?

Sister Sledge
02-11-2008, 10:29 PM
Not at all, how did Jones go against Harding? He had some problems and Harding isn't half the fighter Dawson is, If Dawson fought Jones there is no way he could lose if he utilised his reach, you saw Tarver do the same thing in their first fight then he would trap Jones on the ropes and throw flurries, something that Jones has ALWAYS been susceptible to, and Dawson throws great combinations to the body and head on the inside.

People need to stop acting like Jones was unbeatable at light heavy, he looked really average in a few fights at that weight and didn't have the same power or footwork he had at the lower weights.

Anyone putting their money on Jones v Dawson is simply a moron who hasn't been following boxing long enough. That was one of the easiest choices on that poll, the only ones i had trouble with were the cruiserweight fights and to a lesser extent Calzaghe.

His style is like Roy Jones Kryptonite.

MSTR
02-12-2008, 12:34 AM
Hall was a tall and lanky southpaw and Roy Jones absolutely annihilated him though. There really isn't enough consistency for me to make that call. And he was 35 when he fought Tarver, at the tail end of his career. I think a motivated Jones would beat Dawson at Light heavy in his earlier days within the division, although it would certainly be a competitive fight no doubt. I don't think the defense of Dawson could stand the Roy Jones offense. Jones' punches are extremely hard to predict.

ralphc
02-12-2008, 01:32 AM
Let me get this strait ... you think he would beat a prime RJJ with ease???

Prime RJJ isn't going to be easy for anybody.

Faetter_BR
02-12-2008, 02:48 AM
RJJs speed and power versus Dawsons chin ... sorry guys but that's an easy call - RJJ KO.

But well one thing we did get from this thread - Dawson isn't unterrated at all - hell he is getting to be "hyped" instead... 17% thinking he would beat the p4p champ - prime RJJ...

RealIzm
02-12-2008, 03:16 AM
I hope he beats Johnson just so I can watch Diaconu slaughter him beyond recognition:fire
Diaconu KO8 after putting him down several times....It's amazing how many people nutswing on Dawson and pay Diaconu no mind....he's the real deal and has a left hook Dawson could only dream of:deal

LockDog387
02-12-2008, 03:22 AM
RJJs speed and power versus Dawsons chin ... sorry guys but that's an easy call - RJJ KO.

But well one thing we did get from this thread - Dawson isn't unterrated at all - hell he is getting to be "hyped" instead... 17% thinking he would beat the p4p champ - prime RJJ...

I don't think Dawson's chin is as bad as you say it is, since he has never been tested yet. In Dawson's last three fights, he BARLEY got hit at all, which is a credit to his defense. But I do agree with that a prime RJJ would beat Dawson.

lefty
02-12-2008, 03:40 AM
RJJs speed and power versus Dawsons chin ... sorry guys but that's an easy call - RJJ KO.

But well one thing we did get from this thread - Dawson isn't unterrated at all - hell he is getting to be "hyped" instead... 17% thinking he would beat the p4p champ - prime RJJ...

What power? Jones had power at middleweight and to a lesser extent at super-middle but at light-heavy his power was average at best.

You aren't saying anything, i can hear your dick growing talking about 'prime' Roy Jones, it isn't a simple black and white equation saying rjj speed and power beats chinny Dawson, great analytical skills you have there. How about styles?

Jones admits Tarver would've given him trouble in his best days, Jones does not like southpaws. Dawson is a more explosive athletic version of Tarver, minus the mental weakness. He also has a right hand and is alot better technically than Tarver. It's really a no-brainer.

I used to think Roy Jones was the all-time p4p champ aswell until i watched every fight in his career objectively and looked at what his opponents were doing, he only looked unbeatable with the Vinny Paz and Glen Kelly sort of opponents. Against better opponents he was a safety first fighter who only fought on the outside, he could be outboxed as the first Griffen fight showed when Jones would try and come in.

Jones would use his athleticsm and unorthadox style to win fights, against Dawson he wouldn't be able to jump in because Dawson has comparable athleticsm to Jones and is alot longer with great footwork and i don't believe he'd be intimadated like most of Jones opponents were and freeze, you know Dawson would be countering back, firing at the same time and throwing the unpredictable combinations that Dawson throws to the body and head. You saw against Adamek that even when Chad was under heavy fire he was calm and very offensive minded, that's what Jones opponents needed and what Griffen demonstrated in the first fight.

lefty
02-12-2008, 03:47 AM
I hope he beats Johnson just so I can watch Diaconu slaughter him beyond recognition:fire
Diaconu KO8 after putting him down several times....It's amazing how many people nutswing on Dawson and pay Diaconu no mind....he's the real deal and has a left hook Dawson could only dream of:deal

Get the fuck out of here with that Diaconu bullshit, that guy is a little homo who has got a bandwagon of nutswingers after a knockout win over a B grade fighter if i'm being generous. Hasn't Diaconu had about 25 fights? and hasn't there been about 15 KO's? What happened to the other 10 guys who didn't get taken out by Diaconus supposed monster power? They probably all had iron chins and were better fighters than Chad Dawson hey :rofl

left jab danny
02-12-2008, 03:58 AM
Gee Dawson beats a roidless admek and he's king of the division..lol fuck me he's been dropped 3 times by average punchers i'd hate to see his face if he gets hit by a right hand from the green machine:deal

RealIzm
02-12-2008, 04:12 AM
Get the fuck out of here with that Diaconu bullshit, that guy is a little homo who has got a bandwagon of nutswingers after a knockout win over a B grade fighter if i'm being generous. Hasn't Diaconu had about 25 fights? and hasn't there been about 15 KO's? What happened to the other 10 guys who didn't get taken out by Diaconus supposed monster power? They probably all had iron chins and were better fighters than Chad Dawson hey :roflGo fuck yourself in the middle of traffic you piece of shit...Your hero has beaten the same quality fighters. We can stop pretending Adamek was great
Hoye was rated #2 by the WBC when Diaconu beat him down...He's earned his title shot and will fight the winner of Dawson-Johnson....after the massacre of your feeble hero I hope you man up on here and not hide like the bitch we know you are

ThePlugInBabies
02-12-2008, 05:10 AM
It is not clear if Dawson could beat Calzaghe or Cunningham but the rest should be easy.

dawson beats haye?

you seriously think dawson can take haye's power?

stuistylee
02-12-2008, 05:26 AM
the reason i voted about him beating a couple is i usually reserve my judgement till theyve made a couple of defences...

val
02-12-2008, 05:43 AM
Gee Dawson beats a roidless admek and he's king of the division..lol fuck me he's been dropped 3 times by average punchers i'd hate to see his face if he gets hit by a right hand from the green machine:deal

Are you suggesting Dawson is easy to hit? It's not like every Dick and Harry can hit Dawson in the face. Dawson vs Green is a mismatch.

RealIzm
02-12-2008, 05:53 AM
Rest assured friends that Diaconu will crush that china-chinned hypejob in under 8 rounds...If Dawson beats Johnson he will have no choice but to defend against Diaconu within 120 days as mandated by the WBC or be stripped:deal Go Diaconu:thumbsup :fire

lefty
02-12-2008, 06:15 AM
Go fuck yourself in the middle of traffic you piece of shit...Your hero has beaten the same quality fighters. We can stop pretending Adamek was great
Hoye was rated #2 by the WBC when Diaconu beat him down...He's earned his title shot and will fight the winner of Dawson-Johnson....after the massacre of your feeble hero I hope you man up on here and not hide like the bitch we know you are

Haha, you mad?

You didn't answer my question, what happened to the 10 guys shorty couldn't knock out?

Dawson beat the champ, undefeated and was considered the best light-heavy around, not some rated #2 by the wbc homo who had already got slaughtered by Woods. Eric Harding today is a way better fighter than Hoye ever has/will be.

Don't you remember Dawson was meant to fight Diaconu not so long ago? Dawson was ready to go but who pulled out at the last minute?
What was Diaconus excuse? Probably you and your midget girlfriend were living together and got your periods at the same time, that's my guess.

lefty
02-12-2008, 06:16 AM
Gee Dawson beats a roidless admek and he's king of the division..lol fuck me he's been dropped 3 times by average punchers i'd hate to see his face if he gets hit by a right hand from the green machine:deal

That's funny.

RealIzm
02-12-2008, 06:29 AM
That's funny.Just be here when it's over mate....I want to hear all fucking dumb excuses you've got as to why your hero got decapitated...We'll all want to hear them....Mad? Not really just cant stand cocksuckers who attack me for merely voicing my opinion...and I did so(at first)without any hatred for Dawson and then you come along and tell me to get the fuck outa here? Nah Fuck You Pal...

lefty
02-12-2008, 06:37 AM
Just be here when it's over mate....I want to hear all fucking dumb excuses you've got as to why your hero got decapitated...We'll all want to hear them....Mad? Not really just cant stand cocksuckers who attack me for merely voicing my opinion...and I did so(at first)without any hatred for Dawson and then you come along and tell me to get the fuck outa here? Nah Fuck You Pal...

I'll be here for sure, i'd say the same to you but i don't really care if you're here or not as you obviously don't know shit about boxing, Diaconu can't do a thing too Dawson apart from suck his dick standing up.

RealIzm
02-12-2008, 06:55 AM
I'll be here for sure, i'd say the same to you but i don't really care if you're here or not as you obviously don't know shit about boxing, Diaconu can't do a thing too Dawson apart from suck his dick standing up.Well you have fun with that among other supergay ideas...and I don't know shit about boxing because I pick Diaconu to beat him?:patsch nuff said:hi:

lefty
02-12-2008, 07:14 AM
Well you have fun with that among other supergay ideas...and I don't know shit about boxing because I pick Diaconu to beat him?:patsch nuff said:hi:

That's correct. See you

Shake
02-12-2008, 08:30 AM
I want to nominate this thread for dan-b's dumbest thread of the year topic.

Not because of the OP, but for what came after.

Giving Dawson the nod over Prime Jones is just a little premature.

lefty
02-12-2008, 08:45 AM
I want to nominate this thread for dan-b's dumbest thread of the year topic.

Not because of the OP, but for what came after.

Giving Dawson the nod over Prime Jones is just a little premature.

Really? Then instead of getting hard over Roy Jones name tell me what both guys bring to the fight and how you envision it playing it out, cheers

Shake
02-12-2008, 09:47 AM
How can I put this?

I am not interested in discussing anything with you ever in my life.

Bodysnatcher
02-12-2008, 10:07 AM
Dawson looks extremely promising but I think we all have to wait and see how the Johnson fight plays out before getting carried away about him.

brooklyn1550
02-12-2008, 10:24 AM
Chad Dawson is a fantastic young fighter who will only get better. Excellent skill-set, great speed, and poise.

I'd pick him over Hopkins, Jones, Erdei, Woods, and maybe even Kessler. Not Calzaghe or the cruiserweights though.

pryorgatti
02-12-2008, 11:04 AM
I wouldn't pick him over the cruiserweights as of now, but I think he could beat Calzaghe though

PolishPummler
02-12-2008, 12:55 PM
Go fuck yourself in the middle of traffic you piece of shit...Your hero has beaten the same quality fighters. We can stop pretending Adamek was great
Hoye was rated #2 by the WBC when Diaconu beat him down...He's earned his title shot and will fight the winner of Dawson-Johnson....after the massacre of your feeble hero I hope you man up on here and not hide like the bitch we know you are

Yeah Adamek and Hoye are pretty much the same fighter(you used this one before and it is still a retarded argument).

PolishPummler
02-12-2008, 12:56 PM
Gee Dawson beats a roidless admek and he's king of the division..lol fuck me he's been dropped 3 times by average punchers i'd hate to see his face if he gets hit by a right hand from the green machine:deal

Roids??...more detail please!