View Full Version : Let's assess the BREWSTER situation
Suge Green
07-08-2007, 07:15 PM
WLAD did a great job of doing everything he should have...now that that's out of the way...
WTF happened to Brew...???
Personally I'm leaning toward the eye injury. I'm not claiming the actual state of his eye was questionable, but rather that the injury changed him. After experiencing that serious injury, Lamon realized he's human and could lose his health and livelihood. These concerns outweigh his will to win, at this point in time...by far. When a fighter who is all dog, loses the dog...he's done. He may have the same chin and skill set, but without his heart...he is in no way the same fighter.
PolishPummler
07-08-2007, 07:17 PM
WLAD did a great job of doing everything he should have...now that that's out of the way...
WTF happened to Brew...???
Personally I'm leaning toward the eye injury. I'm not claiming the actual state of his eye was questionable, but rather that the injury changed him. After experiencing that serious injury, Lamon realized he's human and could lose his health and livelihood. These concerns outweigh his will to win, at this point in time...by far. When a fighter who is all dog, loses the dog...he's done. He may have the same chin and skill set, but without his heart...he is in no way the same fighter.
Um no he was banking on Wlad gassing again and when it didnt happen he threw in the towel both metally and physically.
kg0208
07-08-2007, 07:18 PM
WLAD did a great job of doing everything he should have...now that that's out of the way...
WTF happened to Brew...???
Personally I'm leaning toward the eye injury. I'm not claiming the actual state of his eye was questionable, but rather that the injury changed him. After experiencing that serious injury, Lamon realized he's human and could lose his health and livelihood. These concerns outweigh his will to win, at this point in time...by far. When a fighter who is all dog, loses the dog...he's done. He may have the same chin and skill set, but without his heart...he is in no way the same fighter.
He didn't look like he came to fight yesterday. However....there seems to be a pattern here lately. Many of the fighters who fight Wlad look fine both before and after their fights with him. They don't seem ready to fight when they get in the ring with Wlad though. I am beginning to think it's him making them wary than anything wrong with the fighters. Lets see if Brewster looks good in his next fight.
Shotgun
07-08-2007, 07:22 PM
It's funny that so many people are seemingly ignoring that Wlad was just as if not more dominant in their first fight through 4 rounds before coming unglued
in the 5th
This fight played out the same way the other would have if Wlad hadn't frozen up/gassed out/panicked or whatever happened in there. You could tell in the 4th round of their first fight that Wlad was exhausted when he attempted to finish Brewster off after the knockdown in the 4th. This time he didn't get tired and actually seemed to be getting stronger as the fight went on. That was the only real difference
Shotgun
07-08-2007, 07:27 PM
Umm it was different for 2 reasons.
1. Wlad was not as nervous about getting the KO
2. In the first fight he threw too many power shots and grabbed.
Here he threw mostly set ups for the big 1 right hand.
It wasn't the same.
I mean Wlad beat him still but he threw less power and more set up this time around.
I'm not saying Wlad fought the exact same way. I'm saying he was winning the first fight just as easily through 4 rounds as he was winning this fight through 4 rounds
He made Brewster look like an amateur for 4 rounds in the first fight and got gassed out and stopped in the 5th
He made Brewster look like an amateur for 4 rounds in the second fight, but didn't get tired and continued to make Brewster look like an amateur and Brewster's corner threw in the towel
Yes he altered his strategy but the results, through 4 rounds, were roughly the same
Suge Green
07-08-2007, 07:32 PM
I'm not saying Wlad fought the exact same way. I'm saying he was winning the first fight just as easily through 4 rounds as he was winning this fight through 4 rounds
He made Brewster look like an amateur for 4 rounds in the first fight and got gassed out and stopped in the 5th
He made Brewster look like an amateur for 4 rounds in the second fight, but didn't get tired and continued to make Brewster look like an amateur and Brewster's corner threw in the towel
Yes he altered his strategy but the results, through 4 rounds, were roughly the same
That's all great Mr. stealth...no need to state the obvious. This thread is more about looking into the condition of Brewster...we all understand that WLAD is the better boxer.
Do you think Brewster acted determined...??? For a contrast look at that tweaker Darchinian, even after being knocked senseless you can tell he still had a desire to hurt Donaire, regardless of how improbable it may have been at the time. Brewster seemed just as defeated before during and after the fight...:smoke
Bazooka
07-08-2007, 07:44 PM
it is to my beleif that the only reason this fight even took place is becuase of the eye injury Wlad would have not taken the fight if Lamon had a both eyes thats for sure, which makes one wonder why was the fight in Germany anyways? is this because in America perhaps Lamon would not have been cleared to fight.... Hmmmm
Shotgun
07-08-2007, 07:48 PM
which makes one wonder why was the fight in Germany anyways?
$$$$
That and Wlad is the champ, he can fight wherever he wants. Since Wlad is his own promoter it makes sense that he would stage his fights where he'll make the most money
Bazooka
07-08-2007, 07:49 PM
$$$$
That and Wlad is the champ, he can fight wherever he wants. Since Wlad is his own promoter it makes sense that he would stage his fights where he'll make the most money
The same kind of money is here in the states for Wlad I dont buy that one.
pipe wrenched
07-08-2007, 07:56 PM
Do you think Brewster acted determined...??? For a contrast look at that tweaker Darchinian, even after being knocked senseless you can tell he still had a desire to hurt Donaire, regardless of how improbable it may have been at the time. Brewster seemed just as defeated before during and after the fight...:smoke[/quote]
Even after the first or second round you could see all the discouragement in the world on Brew's face. He did not have the " eye of the tiger". :good
Shotgun
07-08-2007, 07:56 PM
The same kind of money is here in the states for Wlad I dont buy that one.
Where is he going to sell out an 18,000 person arena fighting against Lamon Brewster in the US?
Don't forget that German TV money is huge for him. This is something American fans routinely ignore, but Wlad probably makes as much if not more money from German TV rights as he does with his HBO contract. He can fight in Germany and have the fight broadcast live in both Germany and on HBO in the US
If he fights in the US, people have to stay up until like 3:00 AM to watch it live, meaning less advertising $$$ and less fees put up for the rights on German TV. Fighting in Germany = bigger live gate, more money from German TV/advertisers, just as much money from HBO. As a promoter it's the smart move to make
Finally, why shouldn't he fight in Germany? He's the champ, the German fans appreciate him more than American fans, Germany's his adopted home country. He can fight wherever he wants to
Jose FM
07-08-2007, 08:00 PM
I dont think we should make excuses for Brewster, cause if we are talking excuses then Wlad broke his left hand and still was whippin ass no excuses. Wlad was just too good to get beat by anyone, his jab was in Brewster face all night long, was throwing rights, hooks, and even uppercuts, masterful preformance for Klitschko.
Jose FM
07-08-2007, 08:01 PM
it is to my beleif that the only reason this fight even took place is becuase of the eye injury Wlad would have not taken the fight if Lamon had a both eyes thats for sure, which makes one wonder why was the fight in Germany anyways? is this because in America perhaps Lamon would not have been cleared to fight.... Hmmmm
Ridiculuos, a doctor is a doctor, Germany is not a third world country, as a matter of fact Germany probablky has a better health care system than the U.S. Brewster was fine, Wlad just beat him fair and square.
Heavyrighthand
07-08-2007, 08:02 PM
Um no he was banking on Wlad gassing again and when it didnt happen he threw in the towel both metally and physically.
:good
dragosuhail
07-08-2007, 08:03 PM
i agree suge... brewster didn't look as determined this time round. but i STRONGLY believe the reason for this is none other that WLAD.
what i mean is lamon absorbed the worst hiding of his career in those four rounds of first fight. yes i realise he won, but lamon isn't stupid. he was in the ring taking those shots so knows more than anyone how much hell he had to go through. and he must have had a sliver of doubt in how convincing his ko of wlad was. just a little doubt but that's enough to open the crack wider when the rematch came.
i really feel waldimir pounded him worse then the guys after that fight did. lamon at least knew watching those tapes that he won them or just won them in the case of meehan. but against an improved wladimir? i feel the ghost of doubt and the memory of the pain he went through to win in an unsatisfying why, has made him less "relentless" in their rematch!
that's my two cents but i feel it's probably closest to the reality. novrasputin i know your guy is sultan, but try not to be tooo negative to wladimir. i mean i believe he will kick sultan's arse pretty bad if they fought based on performances etc. so you better start being more objective NOW, to avoid the embarrassment later ;)
Suge Green
07-08-2007, 08:03 PM
I dont think we should make excuses for Brewster, cause if we are talking excuses then Wlad broke his left hand and still was whippin ass no excuses. Wlad was just too good to get beat by anyone, his jab was in Brewster face all night long, was throwing rights, hooks, and even uppercuts, masterful preformance for Klitschko.
I speak of facts...like Brewster not being determined. You speak lies...KLIT broke a finger, not a hand.
If you don't have an opinion on Brewster's condition, you're not adding to the thread.
Again KLIT fought well...we are exploring that in several other threads...:patsch
PolishPummler
07-08-2007, 08:06 PM
Suge White will be gone in a day or two and will dissapear till the next Wlad fight.
Hoping and praying that Wlad somehow loses.See you in a few months.
Everybody Brewster has a great mysterious skill set that only Suge knows about....he chose not to use.
Jose FM
07-08-2007, 08:06 PM
I speak of facts...like Brewster not being determined. You speak lies...KLIT broke a finger, not a hand.
If you don't have an opinion on Brewster's condition, you're not adding to the thread.
Again KLIT fought well...we are exploring that in several other threads...:patsch
Ah yes broke a finger, where are there any lies in what ive said? Brewster looked absolutely fine, and Klitschko absolutely dominated him, its people like you that look for excuse as to way he got his ass kicked when the answer is plain and simple Klitschko was just a lot better than him.
Shotgun
07-08-2007, 08:07 PM
Brewster didn't really look any worse or less determined than he did against Etienne, Meehan, Lyakovich, Krasniqi, etc. He just was in there against a much better opponent who provided him with 0 openings and took away his will to win the fight
PolishPummler
07-08-2007, 08:09 PM
Suge is saying if Brewster would have just turned it up a notch he could have easily won.
Suge Green
07-08-2007, 08:10 PM
Suge White will be gone in a day or two and will dissapear till the next Wlad fight.
Hoping and praying that Wlad somehow loses.See you in a few months.
Everybody Brewster has a great mysterious skill set that only Suge knows about....he chose not to use.
See you in a few months...??? Where are you going...???
Stop begging for attention so much...you argue against a point I don't even make...mysterious skill set...???:rofl
It's the heart issue...:deal
Suge Green
07-08-2007, 08:12 PM
Ah yes broke a finger, where are there any lies in what ive said? Brewster looked absolutely fine, and Klitschko absolutely dominated him, its people like you that look for excuse as to way he got his ass kicked when the answer is plain and simple Klitschko was just a lot better than him.
No excuse...I'm just don't want to ignore the facts...as you've got that covered. Passing off a broken finger as a broken hand cheapens an otherwise legit victory. WLAD did good. No excuse...this is about Brewster...
He is done...
PolishPummler
07-08-2007, 08:12 PM
See you in a few months...??? Where are you going...???
Stop begging for attention so much...you argue against a point I don't even make...mysterious skill set...???:rofl
It's the heart issue...:deal
Just out of curiousity.....
You call Vitali a quitter for conceding in a fight he was DOMINATING due to a LEGIT injury.
Do you consider Brewster a quitter for quitting on his stool because he had no chance of winning?
Heavyrighthand
07-08-2007, 08:13 PM
Ah yes broke a finger, where are there any lies in what ive said? Brewster looked absolutely fine, and Klitschko absolutely dominated him, its people like you that look for excuse as to way he got his ass kicked when the answer is plain and simple Klitschko was just a lot better than him.
:good Very welll said.
Suge seems to be looking for an answer when its right under his nose;
Brewster was Brewster, and fought the same fight with the same drive and techniques he usually does. Merchant even asked him if he still had the same heart and drive to win as he had in the first fight, and Brewster said he did have the same heart and drive to win, but that Klit was just the better man.
Period. But Suge don't seem to want to accept that Wlad is too much for Brewster, plain and simple.
PolishPummler
07-08-2007, 08:14 PM
One more thing.
Didnt Brewster PRIDE himself on having so much "DOG" in him in an pre-fight interview?
Jose FM
07-08-2007, 08:14 PM
Suge is saying if Brewster would have just turned it up a notch he could have easily won.
Yeah, but again thats a retarded thing to say, thats like saying if Tyson had turned it up in the fight versus Lewis he Woulddawon, but the fact is that Tyson didnt, and Brewster didnt, so thats that, Klitschko made him quit, when he said that Klits would have to kill him, and yes he did it with a broken middle finger!
Suge Green
07-08-2007, 08:15 PM
Just out of curiousity.....
You call Vitali a quitter for conceding in a fight he was DOMINATING due to a LEGIT injury.
Do you consider Brewster a quitter for quitting on his stool because he had no chance of winning?
WTF...???
Just because I put my dick in your mouth doesn't mean you have to put words in mine.
I don't know what you are talking about with VITKLIT offhand, but yes BREW quit. He only had no chance because he had no heart. His heart might not have given him a great chance, but without it he had none.
Heavyrighthand
07-08-2007, 08:16 PM
Just out of curiousity.....
You call Vitali a quitter for conceding in a fight he was DOMINATING due to a LEGIT injury.
Do you consider Brewster a quitter for quitting on his stool because he had no chance of winning?
You noticed that, too, huh? Rather comedic, isn't it? :lol:
PolishPummler
07-08-2007, 08:16 PM
Yeah, but again thats a retarded thing to say, thats like saying if Tyson had turned it up in the fight versus Lewis he Woulddawon, but the fact is that Tyson didnt, and Brewster didnt, so thats that, Klitschko made him quit, when he said that Klits would have to kill him, and yes he did it with a broken middle finger!
I know it is.
That's why he is a retard.
Suge Green
07-08-2007, 08:20 PM
You noticed that, too, huh? Rather comedic, isn't it? :lol:
What are you talking about Righty...???
Again with VITKLIT...??? I'm part of the VITALI would have got KO'd crowd...not he's a quiter.
Jose FM
07-08-2007, 08:23 PM
I know it is.
That's why he is a retard.
lol
Mr "T"
07-08-2007, 08:25 PM
it is to my beleif that the only reason this fight even took place is becuase of the eye injury Wlad would have not taken the fight if Lamon had a both eyes thats for sure, which makes one wonder why was the fight in Germany anyways? is this because in America perhaps Lamon would not have been cleared to fight.... Hmmmm
Typical classless response--let's have a rematch! OK?
Suge Green
07-08-2007, 08:25 PM
Typical classless response--let's have a rematch! OK?
No rematch needed...Lamon is done.
Jose FM
07-08-2007, 08:33 PM
Oh wow, i didnt know about whole post card fiasco that Brewster sent to Wladimir, Wlad was hellbent on kicking his ass more.
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Loufatski
07-08-2007, 09:32 PM
WLAD did a great job of doing everything he should have...now that that's out of the way...
WTF happened to Brew...???
Personally I'm leaning toward the eye injury. I'm not claiming the actual state of his eye was questionable, but rather that the injury changed him. After experiencing that serious injury, Lamon realized he's human and could lose his health and livelihood. These concerns outweigh his will to win, at this point in time...by far. When a fighter who is all dog, loses the dog...he's done. He may have the same chin and skill set, but without his heart...he is in no way the same fighter.
Brew blows, no offesnse... I said this before and I'll say it again, he got lucky against Wlad I & he got lucky with Golota, end of story.
Loufatski
07-08-2007, 09:33 PM
Um no he was banking on Wlad gassing again and when it didnt happen he threw in the towel both metally and physically.
Banking is an understatement. It's called looking to hit "lottey".
2smart4u
07-08-2007, 10:19 PM
it is to my beleif that the only reason this fight even took place is becuase of the eye injury Wlad would have not taken the fight if Lamon had a both eyes thats for sure, which makes one wonder why was the fight in Germany anyways? is this because in America perhaps Lamon would not have been cleared to fight.... Hmmmm:patsch
sprite
07-08-2007, 10:25 PM
WLAD did a great job of doing everything he should have...now that that's out of the way...
WTF happened to Brew...???
Personally I'm leaning toward the eye injury. I'm not claiming the actual state of his eye was questionable, but rather that the injury changed him. After experiencing that serious injury, Lamon realized he's human and could lose his health and livelihood. These concerns outweigh his will to win, at this point in time...by far. When a fighter who is all dog, loses the dog...he's done. He may have the same chin and skill set, but without his heart...he is in no way the same fighter.
i totally agree. i mean the guy almost had his eyeball pop out.
Heavyrighthand
07-08-2007, 10:35 PM
According to the ESB article on the front page, Brewster reinjured his eye, as well as his jaw. And Wlad's broken finger is to blame. LOL
JoeyP
07-08-2007, 11:26 PM
I dont think we should make excuses for Brewster, cause if we are talking excuses then Wlad broke his left hand and still was whippin ass no excuses. Wlad was just too good to get beat by anyone, his jab was in Brewster face all night long, was throwing rights, hooks, and even uppercuts, masterful preformance for Klitschko.
Good point. Several people posted before the fight that should WK win there would be excuse galore--now we find out that he broke his hand. He took care of business and he is no doubt top of the HW's right now
Suge Green
07-08-2007, 11:31 PM
Good point. Several people posted before the fight that should WK win there would be excuse galore--now we find out that he broke his hand. He took care of business and he is no doubt top of the HW's right now
again with the lies...he did not break a hand...it was a finger.
LennoxGOAT
07-08-2007, 11:42 PM
WLAD did a great job of doing everything he should have...now that that's out of the way...
WTF happened to Brew...???
Personally I'm leaning toward the eye injury. I'm not claiming the actual state of his eye was questionable, but rather that the injury changed him. After experiencing that serious injury, Lamon realized he's human and could lose his health and livelihood. These concerns outweigh his will to win, at this point in time...by far. When a fighter who is all dog, loses the dog...he's done. He may have the same chin and skill set, but without his heart...he is in no way the same fighter.
What happened to him? Nothing, this was exactly like the first fight. Wlad owned him until his hands were at his hips......THEN Brewster dropped bombs on him. I don't see how this is so hard for people to see. Brewster was a dead man walking until Wlad invited him to unload on him.
Suge Green
08-13-2008, 05:35 PM
What happened to him? Nothing, this was exactly like the first fight. Wlad owned him until his hands were at his hips......THEN Brewster dropped bombs on him. I don't see how this is so hard for people to see. Brewster was a dead man walking until Wlad invited him to unload on him.
Well, we've since found out from HBO's Ross Greenburg that BREW was on medical suspension at the time...
I believe it's time again to reassess the Brewster situation, as he heads into his next fight.
Feiti
08-13-2008, 06:54 PM
What happened is that Wlad did not fall apart on his own and thus showed how completely superior he is to the always technically limited Brewster. Brew was on the verge of being destroyed in the first fight, worse than in the second, when Wlad just gassed out somehow.
I don´t think it would have made any difference what version of Brewster would have showed up for the second fight, he would have been schooled.
Brewster was always just a limited fighter with a good chin, heart and punch. Kali Meehan did a number on him, he lost to Shufford and Etienne and Karsniqi was handing it to him before Brewster landed a big punch on him. Lyakhovich, who beat Brewster, was never that good either. The only name fighter he beat really was Brewster but he lost to Maurice Harris by KO (supposedly he had a fever though), got KOed by stiff ass Briggs and he looked really bad in his fight versus Friday Ahunya (or however it´s spelled)
RafaelGonzal
08-13-2008, 09:18 PM
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Punisher33
08-13-2008, 10:45 PM
For those who havent seen the first Brewster/Wlad fight, you shouldnt comment. Lamon fought a hell of alot better in there first meeting, than in there second. He landed vicious body blows early on, which made RJJ comment on them, as well as rocking Wlad with a jab in the 3rd round, which helped gave him the round on the ledderman scorecard.
Brewster however took more punishment in there first fight, 1-2's after 1-2's, Wlad was really letting the leather fly that night, where in the second fight it was mostly jabs Wlad was throwing and landing. As a huge Brewster fan and someone who I followed since the early 2000's, he wasnt the same Lamon that night, alot of fighters couldve beat him that night.
Suge Green
08-21-2008, 06:45 PM
"I'm going to brush this rust off then go and knock Klitschko out."
-Lamon Brewster, on the main site today.
Punisher33
08-21-2008, 06:49 PM
"I'm going to brush this rust off then go and knock Klitschko out."
-Lamon Brewster, on the main site today. I would love to see it, I just doubt Brewster has the toughness he once had, with Buddy in his corner, I cant ever see him being champ again.
Suge Green
08-21-2008, 07:05 PM
I would love to see it, I just doubt Brewster has the toughness he once had, with Buddy in his corner, I cant ever see him being champ again.
"I'm going to brush this rust off then go and knock Klitschko out."
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PolishPummler
08-21-2008, 07:09 PM
"I'm going to brush this rust off then go and knock Klitschko out."
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"He doesnt have as much heart as me...i have no dog in me"
Lamon Brewster prior to quitting against Wlad in the rematch.
Punisher33
08-21-2008, 07:10 PM
"I'm going to brush this rust off then go and knock Klitschko out."
[Only registered and activated users can see links] Very cool poster, I seen it while I was on Brewster's fan club site a few weeks back. I remember messaging him on Myspace a few weeks before the 2nd Wlad fight, and he actually responded back, I asked him if he was going to go after Wlads weak chin early in the fight? He responded back with " I dont want take too many chances in this fight, he's a very powerful fighter, I think I could break him down early and finish him late", I just hope he has better plan the 3rd time around.
Galileo Galilei
08-21-2008, 07:36 PM
Actually, iff Brewster strings together a couple noteworthy wins.
Then a rubber match with Big Bad Wlad makes sense.
lfsdan
08-21-2008, 07:43 PM
I don't think he's going to beat Klitschko ever again. But I want to see him back in the mix. Fun fighter to watch, and always get your money's worth. I'd still pick him to beat most of the top heavies if he came in healthy. He's got balls the size of cannons.
LennoxGOAT
08-21-2008, 07:51 PM
Um no he was banking on Wlad gassing again and when it didnt happen he threw in the towel both metally and physically.
QFT.
I am disturbed how people can't see. HE LANDED MORE SHOTS IN THE SECOND FIGHT.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS WLAD DID NOT SHOOT HIS LOAD.
LennoxGOAT
08-21-2008, 07:52 PM
Actually, iff Brewster strings together a couple noteworthy wins.
Then a rubber match with Big Bad Wlad makes sense.
No it doesn't. He has been beaten 95% of the time they have been in the ring. It is like asking a rubber match between Lewis-Rahman. There is no point.
Punisher33
08-21-2008, 08:26 PM
QFT.
I am disturbed how people can't see. HE LANDED MORE SHOTS IN THE SECOND FIGHT.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS WLAD DID NOT SHOOT HIS LOAD. Not effective shots though, Brewster hurt Wlad in the 3rd round of the first fight, and ultimately finished him off in the 5th, after Wlad blew his load. Brewster looked like shit in the second, at least in the first fight Brewster tried to get in and catch him on the inside, in the second fight he was content on making it a Boxing match, which is something Brewster's not known for.
Heavyrighthand
08-21-2008, 08:28 PM
Given the lack of challenges out there for Wlad, I think Brewster on a winning streak would be worth a third fight.
Its not as if the worthy challengers are lined up to fight Wlad; there is not much of anyone seen as a real threat to him, as it stands, now.
So I think if Brewster were to get two or three impressive wins, and get a couple of those brutal KOs he is known for, that would make people see him as a legit threat to Wlad, once again, and they'd start to see a third fight as a worthwhile endeavor.
Its seems that you are only as good as your last fight, and if Brew can beat the hell out of of a couple three good opponents, the boxing public will forget his quitting against Wlad in the second fight, and seem him worthy of another shot at taking Wlad out, as he did in the first fight. ( even though it was more of a stamina deficit, but it was still a win for Brewster, and a very good win )
Cachibatches
08-21-2008, 08:42 PM
No it doesn't. He has been beaten 95% of the time they have been in the ring. It is like asking a rubber match between Lewis-Rahman. There is no point.
Common now LG, lets see what Brewster puts together first. It is not totally unheard of for an old dog to come up with a few tricks, and the gretest way to elevate two men's careers is to have a great series with each other.
Dimentrenko is rated I think #1 by the WBO, he looks and fights like a poor man's Wlad Klit, and he is legitimately chinny. What if Brew got an eliminator? I'll bet he could knock the man out and get right back in the picture. Just an example of what might happen in the crazy world of boxing.
Last point: Lennox Ko'd Rahmen when he was champ, Wladdy Ko'd Brew on an 18 month lay off, so a case can be made that it was not the best Lamon Brewster in there that night.
Suge Green
08-21-2008, 08:51 PM
Common now LG, lets see what Brewster puts together first. It is not totally unheard of for an old dog to come up with a few tricks, and the gretest way to elevate two men's careers is to have a great series with each other.
Dimentrenko is rated I think #1 by the WBO, he looks and fights like a poor man's Wlad Klit, and he is legitimately chinny. What if Brew got an eliminator? I'll bet he could knock the man out and get right back in the picture. Just an example of what might happen in the crazy world of boxing.
Last point: Lennox Ko'd Rahmen when he was champ, Wladdy Ko'd Brew on an 18 month lay off, so a case can be made that it was not the best Lamon Brewster in there that night.
More than a case...he was on medical suspension in the U.S...but I'm still not advocting he get in there with WLAD again. He's going to have to win me over.
KobeIsGod
08-21-2008, 08:54 PM
I just hope he has better plan the 3rd time around.
Wlad would put Brewster in a coma if they fought for a third time. I seriously doubt Lamon would take it either if he got back into the mix. He lost 10 of the 11 rounds in the 2 fights and probably like 32 of the 33 minutes. Like Peter, he uses his face as his defense. doesn't make for long or consistent careers.
wish him luck though. exciting fighter who lays it on the line. Peter vs Brewster would be very entertaining. Id also love to see Brewster ko the Hayematrix :yep :yep :yep
he can be competitive against anyone sans the klitschkos as long as he hasn't lost his fire.
KobeIsGod
08-21-2008, 08:58 PM
No it doesn't. He has been beaten 95% of the time they have been in the ring. It is like asking a rubber match between Lewis-Rahman. There is no point.
exactly. he is just so outclassed against wlad, it's almost criminal. no pt. he actually has solid skill and very good power. very surprising handspeed inside too. but wlad like lennox seems like they get better in rematches. intelligent fighters with a great trainer who know how to make adjustments.
Actually, iff Brewster strings together a couple noteworthy wins.
Then a rubber match with Big Bad Wlad makes sense.
i reckon brewster would end up in the morgue just like Haye if he ever steps in the ring with Wladimir :yep
KobeIsGod
08-21-2008, 09:02 PM
Common now LG, lets see what Brewster puts together first. It is not totally unheard of for an old dog to come up with a few tricks, and the gretest way to elevate two men's careers is to have a great series with each other.
lol. great series. wlad beat the breaks off brewster for 32 of the 33 minutes. he gassed himself throwing too many power punches. jesus did u see the 3rd and 4th rounds. wlad didn't stop throwing. it was unbelievable to see that type of skill and speed for a giant but u can't sustain yourself over 12 rounds at the pace.
p.s. wlad is gonna take povetkin's chin home in a box :yep
KobeIsGod
08-21-2008, 09:05 PM
For those who havent seen the first Brewster/Wlad fight, you shouldnt comment. Lamon fought a hell of alot better in there first meeting, than in there second. He landed vicious body blows early on, which made RJJ comment on them, as well as rocking Wlad with a jab in the 3rd round, which helped gave him the round on the ledderman scorecard.
Brewster however took more punishment in there first fight, 1-2's after 1-2's, Wlad was really letting the leather fly that night, where in the second fight it was mostly jabs Wlad was throwing and landing. As a huge Brewster fan and someone who I followed since the early 2000's, he wasnt the same Lamon that night, alot of fighters couldve beat him that night.
:lol: lol u keep saying it was jab. it wasn't. it was a power straight left hand, brewster strong hand.
wlad gassed himself plain and simple. he threw a ridiculous amount of power shots.
Punisher33
08-21-2008, 09:46 PM
:lol: lol u keep saying it was jab. it wasn't. it was a power straight left hand, brewster strong hand.
wlad gassed himself plain and simple. he threw a ridiculous amount of power shots. It was either Merchant or Jones that said it was a jab, either way there was limmited power behind that punch, Jones even laughed at how bad Wlad reacted to such a light punch.
I do believe Wlad gassed out, but if you watch early on in that fight, Brewster landed very powerful body shots, that got RJJ to comment on them. I think it was a combination of Wlad blowing his load with all the power punches he threw, as well as Brewsters body attack.
If you're asking about the Wladimir fight then I personally believe it's Wladimir showing serious improvements that changed the outcome in the rematch. The same was happening in the first fight anyway, if not worse with Brewster being dropped and stunned numerous times till Klitschko ran out of gas. In the rematch Wladimir applied the same tactic, though held way more of course but completely shut Brewster down till it was a hopeless case.
Brewster has also been in a lot of vicious fights and that goes way before he met Wladimir the first time as well.
LennoxGOAT
08-22-2008, 01:33 AM
Common now LG, lets see what Brewster puts together first. It is not totally unheard of for an old dog to come up with a few tricks, and the gretest way to elevate two men's careers is to have a great series with each other.
Dimentrenko is rated I think #1 by the WBO, he looks and fights like a poor man's Wlad Klit, and he is legitimately chinny. What if Brew got an eliminator? I'll bet he could knock the man out and get right back in the picture. Just an example of what might happen in the crazy world of boxing.
Last point: Lennox Ko'd Rahmen when he was champ, Wladdy Ko'd Brew on an 18 month lay off, so a case can be made that it was not the best Lamon Brewster in there that night.
If Lamon earned it, fine. But I can name about 20 heavies that are more deserving to fight Wlad than Lamon again.
I guess I simply watched a different fight than everyone else. There are two fights with one fighter skullfucking the other for 90% of the time. Until Wlad's hands hit his trunks, Lamon didn't do shit. And even with Wlad being a standing target, Lamon still couldn't put his ass down. He needed the ref to finish a dead man walking.
I have no interest whatsoever unless he miraculously earns it...but even with Sasha...I see him jabbing the hell out of Brewster even with his chin issues and lack of power.
LennoxGOAT
08-22-2008, 01:34 AM
And I am not Brewster hater. I love the guy. His fights against Sergei and Golota are awesome...but it doesn't substitute the fact that he is simply not in Wlad's league.
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