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tays001
02-11-2008, 05:02 PM
over hyped cintron would kill him. and cq could of ko'd had he steped it up.

thank you pw i always knew

markbrooklyn
02-11-2008, 05:08 PM
Cintron couldnt even "kill" that club fighter Jesse Feliciano what makes you think he's gonna beat Paul Williams? Cintron can't handle any type of pressure and wouldnt be able to cope with the pressure Paul Williams would bring. And let's not forget that Quintana is a skilled southpaw fighter. Being a southpaw is an advantage enough plus he has very good boxing skills. Paul Williams would make Cintron quit.

tays001
02-11-2008, 05:09 PM
Cintron couldnt even "kill" that club fighter Jesse Feliciano what makes you think he's gonna beat Paul Williams? Cintron can't handle any type of pressure and wouldnt be able to cope with the pressure Paul Williams would bring. And let's not forget that Quintana is a skilled southpaw fighter. Being a southpaw is an advantage enough plus he has very good boxing skills. Paul Williams would make Cintron quit.

cintron by ko in 7

PH|LLA
02-11-2008, 05:09 PM
PW would beat Cintron IMO

UD 9-3

Jase2483
02-11-2008, 05:21 PM
PW would beat Cintron IMO

UD 9-3

agreed.

and to everyone else in this thread....give CQ some credit....incredibly skilled, slick southpaw - not exactly the easiest guy to match up with and land on

Doomas
02-11-2008, 05:30 PM
PW < Cintron, Cintron < Quantana......< Cotto < Mayweather.

Mayweather <=>PW (I still think he has best chance in all division to beat Floyd).

Styles makes fights:good

Marnoff
02-11-2008, 05:47 PM
PW < Cintron, Cintron < Quantana......< Cotto < Mayweather.

Mayweather <=>PW (I still think he has best chance in all division to beat Floyd).

Styles makes fights:good

Nope. Like I've been saying for months, Williams' flicked jab and flicked straight left don't be causing Mayweather any trouble. Blindly trying to punch for the sake of punching and driving up the punch stats wouldn't work with Mayweather. It worked with the slow, plodding, Margarito, but there is quite a difference....

Edit: Quintana's movement gave Williams fits. Mayweather would be damn near impossible for Williams to land cleanly on.

joekirkbycobra
02-11-2008, 06:02 PM
Cintron couldnt even "kill" that club fighter Jesse Feliciano what makes you think he's gonna beat Paul Williams? Cintron can't handle any type of pressure and wouldnt be able to cope with the pressure Paul Williams would bring. And let's not forget that Quintana is a skilled southpaw fighter. Being a southpaw is an advantage enough plus he has very good boxing skills. Paul Williams would make Cintron quit.

he's a fkin destructive puncher though

Ambition_Def
02-11-2008, 06:08 PM
I've said long before the Quintana fight that Cintron would be the one welterweight I'd pick over Williams. Williams isn't hard to find, he's a big target and Cintron punches very hard. Not a difficult fight to figure out.

Granted, Cintron has trouble with pressure. But Feliciano, Estrada and Margarito are all smaller than Williams. They don't present that sort of huge target for Cintron who himself is about 5'11.

tays001
02-11-2008, 06:59 PM
agreed.

and to everyone else in this thread....give CQ some credit....incredibly skilled, slick southpaw - not exactly the easiest guy to match up with and land on

i feel you i just thought he was over hyped i saw in the Mitchell that mitchell was landing to often. i always felt a larger fresher slicker fighter would beat him ie cq,spinks,zab maybe.

i feel his defence has holes and cintron's power will crack his chin it's a style's thing. thats just IMO:good

tays001
02-11-2008, 07:03 PM
PW < Cintron, Cintron < Quantana......< Cotto < Mayweather.

Mayweather <=>PW (I still think he has best chance in all division to beat Floyd).

Styles makes fights:good

great point! usally i would agree but the thing is pual williams doesn't use his height he only has a high punch out put. doesn't use his power. the fight would make williams look way sloppier then he did this past weekend.
NOW if PW fought like say A vernon forrest did in his prime or even like now he would definately have a chance. but he doesn't and his offense is his defence. not a good thing when you fight elite fighters:good

tays001
02-11-2008, 07:05 PM
I've said long before the Quintana fight that Cintron would be the one welterweight I'd pick over Williams. Williams isn't hard to find, he's a big target and Cintron punches very hard. Not a difficult fight to figure out.

Granted, Cintron has trouble with pressure. But Feliciano, Estrada and Margarito are all smaller than Williams. They don't present that sort of huge target for Cintron who himself is about 5'11.

great point i agree

Jase2483
02-11-2008, 07:08 PM
i feel you i just thought he was over hyped i saw in the Mitchell that mitchell was landing to often. i always felt a larger fresher slicker fighter would beat him ie cq,spinks,zab maybe.

i feel his defence has holes and cintron's power will crack his chin it's a style's thing. thats just IMO:good

I know exactly where you're coming from.....It just seems people are thinking "williams lost(or was exposed)" and not a lot of "CQ put on a wonderful performance and dominated the ring control for the fight"

tays001
02-11-2008, 07:10 PM
I know exactly where you're coming from.....It just seems people are thinking "williams lost(or was exposed)" and not a lot of "CQ put on a wonderful performance and dominated the ring control for the fight"

i was loving that fight CQ definately raised his game

tays001
02-14-2008, 12:03 AM
great point! usally i would agree but the thing is pual williams doesn't use his height he only has a high punch out put. doesn't use his power. the fight would make williams look way sloppier then he did this past weekend.
NOW if PW fought like say A vernon forrest did in his prime or even like now he would definately have a chance. but he doesn't and his offense is his defence. not a good thing when you fight elite fighters:good

didn't see you put cintron better the PW :oops: sorry :oops: but i think he's better then CQ also:D

1lehudson
02-14-2008, 02:44 AM
Williams isnt a great fighter. The other night Kellerman kept saying "Wow, how good is Cotto for beatting Quantana" And all I kept saying to my wife is, man Max is tring to save face, after all he did just say that Williams was the only man that could give Mayweather a tough fight. Then the second thought was of Margarito, and how much he sucked. Now with that being said, Williams did beat Margo and Margo did blast the fuk out of Cintron.:huh