View Full Version : Can Steve Forbes upset De La Hoya?
Woddy
02-12-2008, 09:26 AM
Towards the end of this year, Floyd Mayweather Jr. Is scheduled to face Oscar DeLaHoya for the second time. But first, Oscar will face the journeyman Steve Forbes. Given that Oscar is passed his prime and possibly looking ahead to Mayweather, is there a chance for an upset here?
Thoughts.
D_knowsboxing
02-12-2008, 09:33 AM
I think if DLH loses to Forbes then the mayweather fight purse would go down the tubes. DLH's credibility as a fighter would be done and no one would buy PBF v DLH unless people want to see PBF spar. I think PBF would see the loss of money and then focus on another ww titlist or cotto.
thewoo
02-12-2008, 09:35 AM
Oscar is at that point of his career where every fight is a danger to him. he does not have skills even close to his prime and every fighter that comes at him will be preparing 1000%
slantone
02-12-2008, 09:36 AM
is this confirmed fight?
Woddy
02-12-2008, 09:37 AM
is this confirmed fight?
According to boxrec its scheduled, but I suppose anything can happen.
BewareofDawg
02-12-2008, 09:38 AM
By not doing what he's told maybe, maybe Oscar might get a little upset :lol:
slantone
02-12-2008, 09:40 AM
i think that a tuneup agains this guy forbes would be a waste of time. at least the fight with mayorga had some value and people gave him respect for it- it had credibility inthe name at least. It even gave him a belt. I think if he tunesup he should fight Trinidad. Although i think he s saving Trinidad for his last fight. Its a fight that has no urgency and he could save for last- in that its always going to be there, always going to fill stadiums , he could get revenge- and he s afavourite to win and go out avenging a loss to retire on.
But my preferred tuneuip would be someone like a Berto- a game up and comer, a Zab judah, a Corey Spinks, a Paul Williams , Even Margarito. A decent name Welterweight Contender who would make Delahoya a contender.
I mean lets face it - big name aside- Delahoya isnt a Contender- if he wasnt famous- he would have to earn his shot at the title like everyone else. He should fight like it - instead of like a businessman. Fight someone who would maek him a number 1 to 5 challenger....I m not into him anymore- he just is lclearly fighting for dollars and spouting the same shit about legacy and how he s in the best shape of his life. He s just looking for the bux- even more so than somene like Floyd.
Woddy
02-12-2008, 09:46 AM
i think that a tuneup agains this guy forbes would be a waste of time. at least the fight with mayorga had some value and people gave him respect for it- it had credibility inthe name at least. It even gave him a belt. I think if he tunesup he should fight Trinidad. Although i think he s saving Trinidad for his last fight. Its a fight that has no urgency and he could save for last- in that its always going to be there, always going to fill stadiums , he could get revenge- and he s afavourite to win and go out avenging a loss to retire on.
But my preferred tuneuip would be someone like a Berto- a game up and comer, a Zab judah, a Corey Spinks, a Paul Williams , Even Margarito. A decent name Welterweight Contender who would make Delahoya a contender.
I mean lets face it - big name aside- Delahoya isnt a Contender- if he wasnt famous- he would have to earn his shot at the title like everyone else. He should fight like it - instead of like a businessman. Fight someone who would maek him a number 1 to 5 challenger....I m not into him anymore- he just is lclearly fighting for dollars and spouting the same shit about legacy and how he s in the best shape of his life. He s just looking for the bux- even more so than somene like Floyd.
Yeah, Berto looked impressive on Saturday night. I'm apt to thinking that he might actually be a high risk tuneup for Delahoya at this point. He's a hot shot young prospect with everything to prove and the talent to potentially make it happen. Personally, I'm not even sure why anyone has a demand to see Mayweather and Delahoya fight again. I'd much rather see Floyd fight either Cotto or Quintana at this point.
Zaryu
02-12-2008, 09:58 AM
Regarding the thread question, anything can happen, but its not likely. I think that the real upset question should be, what if Oscar actually beats Mayweather???
KayEpps
02-12-2008, 10:02 AM
No upset for Oscar.
We all seen what happened in the Felix Sturm fight. Officially he won - but anybody watching that fight knows DLH lost that one.
If Forbes stick and move - we might see the same thing again. There's too much money involved and with Steve being signed to GBP - they may have something worked out, just in case.
brooklyn1550
02-12-2008, 10:20 AM
There is absolutely no chance for an upset. Forbes is a good boxer, but lacks the size and reach to outbox De La Hoya from the outside. De La Hoya is just too big, too strong, and too powerful. After being competitive with Floyd Mayweather, I highly doubt Oscar would lose to Forbes.
D_knowsboxing
02-12-2008, 10:29 AM
There is absolutely no chance for an upset. Forbes is a good boxer, but lacks the size and reach to outbox De La Hoya from the outside. De La Hoya is just too big, too strong, and too powerful. After being competitive with Floyd Mayweather, I highly doubt Oscar would lose to Forbes.
Funny b/c a lot of people (myself included) said the same thing about Q and paul williams. Now that PW lost we disregard him as a hype job. DLH is in no means at the top of his game. The last time we saw him in the ring is May 07, how much has his skills diminished since then? Time is not your friend when you get to DLH's age. Especially if you aren't active.
Polo28
02-12-2008, 10:46 AM
Hell no!!!
tragicliston
02-12-2008, 10:48 AM
No, even if he could beat him, he won't. There is a lot of money to be made by PBF/DLH II. Anybody who thinks Forbes has a chance, I have two words for you: Felix Sturm.
D_knowsboxing
02-12-2008, 10:53 AM
Hell no!!!
Alright.. that's it, as soon as i get home i'm changing my avatar to some hot chick. People won't read what i write anymore and just look at the pic.:D
FlatNose
02-12-2008, 10:58 AM
I sure wish Stevie would upset DLH. Then, Mayweather might have to consider fighting someone competitive instead of a rematch with Oscar for the Bossa Nova championship.
How quickly we forget Felix Sturm. Even if Forbes pulls off the upset, he won't get the nod.
UMRichRod
02-12-2008, 11:15 AM
No.
Pimp C
02-12-2008, 11:18 AM
I'll be pulling for Steve but he's just to small to compete with Oscar.
Tyson180
02-12-2008, 11:49 AM
I hope Steve wins to cancel the May/DLH II bout . but the only way that happens is for Forbes to KO DLH, and despite DLH's age, he still has a strong beard
ocelot
02-12-2008, 11:50 AM
Forbes would have to KO Oscar, and even then I think DLH would get the decision. :lol:
Now that PW lost we disregard him as a hype job.
Correction: only the excitable ESB buffoons consider Paul a hype job. Some of us wouldn't count him out yet, he's just a young fighter, has no amateur experience at all, and there is a good chance that he had a one-off bad night against Quintana.
D_knowsboxing
02-12-2008, 12:08 PM
Correction: only the excitable ESB buffoons consider Paul a hype job. Some of us wouldn't count him out yet, he's just a young fighter, has no amateur experience at all, and there is a good chance that he had a one-off bad night against Quintana.
Good correction. I can take the constructive criticism, but good point. PW should be back. Doesn't he have a rematch clause?? or rematch pending? We will see how he bounces back.
MasterFlo
02-12-2008, 12:11 PM
Why do you think he picked a guy with such a small knockout percentage? Forbes has no chance, even if he outboxed Oscar, which he can't, it would go oscar's way. I was really hoping for a more credible tune-up.
rendog67
02-12-2008, 12:12 PM
i dont think the judges will let it happen if it goes the distance thats for sure
ApatheticLeader
02-12-2008, 12:16 PM
Forbes is a good, skilled fighter - but doesn't stand a hope in hell here.
D_knowsboxing
02-12-2008, 12:17 PM
Why do you think he picked a guy with such a small knockout percentage? Forbes has no chance, even if he outboxed Oscar, which he can't, it would go oscar's way. I was really hoping for a more credible tune-up.
If he wanted a low KO rate... Look no further than 140 lb 'magic man' (not tarver) he couldnt knock me out while i'm sleep. But i think DLH wanted a respectable opponent with a little marketablity.
BewareofDawg
02-12-2008, 12:20 PM
Wasn't Forbes brought in as a sparring partner when Hoya was preparing for Floyd?
Bigcat
02-12-2008, 12:31 PM
Oscar should have enough to beat Steve, but i think Steve deserves the fight. He was ripped off against Demetrious Hopkins..
D_knowsboxing
02-12-2008, 12:32 PM
U serious? Malignaggi has the style to frustrate Oscar for the full 12rnds. Forbes is obviously the easier opponent.
Style would frustrate DLH, but he wouldn't get knocked out or even have the potential to get knocked out. Then it would be a matter of outboxing Mali. With some work to the body mali would slow down considerably.
Symphenyceo
02-12-2008, 12:54 PM
hopefully
MasterFlo
02-12-2008, 01:00 PM
Malignaggi has knocked out 5 of 24 and Forbes has knocked out 9 of 33, it's not that far off. Even comparing these 2 is foolish, Malignaggi would be a great tune-up and he was mentioned but ultimatly he has the potential to beat Oscar. He's like Mayweather without the power.
MasterFlo
02-12-2008, 01:14 PM
I don't know, I think Floyd's power is quite good when he wants to use it. He just seems unwilling to get into scraps.
D_knowsboxing
02-12-2008, 07:24 PM
Malignaggi has knocked out 5 of 24 and Forbes has knocked out 9 of 33, it's not that far off. Even comparing these 2 is foolish, Malignaggi would be a great tune-up and he was mentioned but ultimatly he has the potential to beat Oscar. He's like Mayweather without the power.
if you look at mali's fight by fight record you will see that all of his KO's came early in his career. meaning he knocked out the bum on the corner, the milkman, maybe the mailman, and oh yeah the icecream truck driver. In all actuality he hasn't knocked anyone out with a credible boxing background.
maracho
02-12-2008, 07:56 PM
I like Forbs and he beat Dhop but i am sure he cant make up for the size difference against DLH
I think Gomez could beat Oscar though
Ramshall1
02-12-2008, 08:01 PM
That would be a sweet upset
KO Boxing
02-12-2008, 08:38 PM
Whether or not he can (which I actually hope he does), I personally have no problem with him picking up this pay day.
How much does a tune-up make against Oscar? I mean, Forbes WAS on the Contendor and nearly won, so it's not as if he's a no-name.
bestdefense117
02-12-2008, 08:41 PM
I think there's a good chance of Forbes beating De Le Hoya, but never trust Golden Boy Promotions.
stuistylee
02-12-2008, 08:43 PM
Towards the end of this year, Floyd Mayweather Jr. Is scheduled to face Oscar DeLaHoya for the second time. But first, Oscar will face the journeyman Steve Forbes. Given that Oscar is passed his prime and possibly looking ahead to Mayweather, is there a chance for an upset here?
Thoughts.i hope he gets beaten on points so that the chances of pbf /cotto happening increase...i dont hate on oscar or anything i just dont wnna c em go round once more cause if they stick 2 that timetable we wont get cotto/pbf till 2009...and it most likely wont b early 09...
BeReal
02-12-2008, 08:49 PM
Forbes will have to knock out Oscar just to get a split decision LOSS :deal
Demetrious is a has no home motherfukker now thanks to his cheap ass Uncle. But I will root for Forbes against Oscar. What we need the most, is not necessarily a Forbes upset, but rather a competetive 12 round decision, a la Sturm, that makes Oscar look like shit.
So if the fight was competitive for 12 rounds then how could have Sturm make Oscar look like shit.:huh :patsch
Lance_Uppercut
02-12-2008, 09:54 PM
The only way Forbes upsets DLH is he he tells him he f*cked him wife.
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