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Nalian
02-12-2008, 10:58 AM
Another American hypejob down. Just keep lineing them up.

Chambers. Paul Williams. Dawson's next.

This china chinned - no defence joke is gonna get turned over by the Road Warrior.

Dont forget where you heard it first

pryorgatti
02-12-2008, 11:02 AM
Not at all. Dawson will live up to the hype.

Tyson180
02-12-2008, 11:03 AM
Can anyone just get "beat" these days? Or does a loss automatically prove that you have been "exposed?"

I guess The Road Warrior and Quintana have already been "EXPOSED", seeing as CQ quit like a bitch on his stool, and the Road Warrior was exposed by Bernard Hopkins in what, 1997!

Hopefully Chad wins, as we need some youth movement in the sport. But it will be
a tough battle, and an interesting one as well.

Haye
02-12-2008, 11:04 AM
dawson is very well schooled and aint getting exposed by a guy like Johnson. His chin is shaky, but I dont think Johnson has either got enough left to get to it, or even the power to knock him clean out. A KD would not be surprising however

UMRichRod
02-12-2008, 11:08 AM
Was Quitnan exposed when Cotto beat him...

What about when JT beat Hopkins...

What about when Oscar lost all those time...people in esb are so fukking dumb.

Pimp C
02-12-2008, 11:10 AM
Another American hypejob down. Just keep lineing them up.

Chambers. Paul Williams. Dawson's next.

This china chinned - no defence joke is gonna get turned over by the Road Warrior.

Dont forget where you heard it first
Dawson isn't a hype job a blind man can see his skills dumb thread.:-(

Pimp C
02-12-2008, 11:11 AM
Diaconnu WILL expose him...
The Shark is to limted to beat a fighter as skilled Dawson if the two ever meet he will get a boxing lesson.

marting
02-12-2008, 11:12 AM
More wishful thinking bullshit. The flaws in Williams were there for anyone to see. Williams is a work in process with little amateur experience. Dawson was an accomplished amateur competing in junior olympics and golden gloves. Dawson isn't perfect but he's far more well-rounded and balanced fighter than Williams.

If the differences between these two fighters isn't apparent then you don't know much about boxing.

Pimp C
02-12-2008, 11:14 AM
More wishful thinking bullshit. The flaws in Williams were there for anyone to see. Williams is a work in process with little amateur experience. Dawson was an accomplished amateur competing in junior olympics and golden gloves. Dawson isn't perfect but he's far more well-rounded and balanced fighter than Williams.

If the differences between these two fighters isn't apparent then you don't know much about boxing.
I couldn't have said it better myself.:clap:

pretty boxer
02-12-2008, 11:38 AM
i cant handle this any more. all these prospects getting raped by the old skoolz. com on man, all i can say is:

1. dawson dont fight calzaghe and u'll be safe.
2. berto stay away from cotto and mayweather.
3. Amir khan keep your hands high.
4. Povetkin just hope kiltchko retires before u get there
5. Gamboa,.......yea you alrite man. u can beat valero and guzman when its you shot.

wow that was a relife. this is the future of boxing. if these rules are broken were fuked.

jecxbox
02-12-2008, 11:52 AM
Yeah but Quintana took Williams to school. The fight wasn't even close nor hard to score. The dude was slapped around like a HO all over the ring at least with Quintana vs PW it is very clear...PW needs to get out of 147lbs if he values his life. He is lucky he wasn't absolutely EMBARRASSED by Floyd and hes lucky he wasn't buried 6 feet under by the hands of Cotto. At least PW still has his health and he was only thoroughly out boxed by a ridiculous underdog. PW has no business even stepping into the ring with Cotto or Floyd...If he fought Floyd, Floyd Mayweather would look so lightening fast that we'd think Floyd was back in his prime weight and still in his early 20s!! :rofl ...Dawson is a far better boxer than PW is, I don't know if he will be "exposed"..But PW certainly was exposed to the fullest extent.

UMRichRod
02-12-2008, 11:54 AM
Yeah but Quintana took Williams to school. The fight wasn't even close nor hard to score. The dude was slapped around like a HO all over the ring at least with Quintana vs PW it is very clear...PW needs to get out of 147lbs if he values his life. He is lucky he wasn't absolutely EMBARRASSED by Floyd and hes lucky he wasn't buried 6 feet under by the hands of Cotto. At least PW still has his health and he was only thoroughly out boxed by a ridiculous underdog. PW has no business even stepping into the ring with Cotto or Floyd...If he fought Floyd, Floyd Mayweather would look so lightening fast that we'd think Floyd was back in his prime weight and still in his early 20s!! :rofl ...Dawson is a far better boxer than PW is, I don't know if he will be "exposed"..But PW certainly was exposed to the fullest extent.:-((

ocelot
02-12-2008, 11:54 AM
Can anyone just get "beat" these days? Or does a loss automatically prove that you have been "exposed?"

I guess The Road Warrior and Quintana have already been "EXPOSED", seeing as CQ quit like a bitch on his stool, and the Road Warrior was exposed by Bernard Hopkins in what, 1997!

Hopefully Chad wins, as we need some youth movement in the sport. But it will be
a tough battle, and an interesting one as well.
Right. Did Ali get 'exposed' by Frazier the first time they fought? Everybody who's fought top competition loses eventually.

jecxbox
02-12-2008, 11:57 AM
:-((

How do you like the truth?

Superheavyweight
02-12-2008, 11:58 AM
Unless you’re Rocky Marciano the odds that an undefeated boxer will lose from now until he retires is a certainty so you’re just using the Zakman tactic.

Saying that Dawson does have a suspect chin but you can’t deny his skills... was Corrales exposed?

And anyway... how can you get exposed by Glen Johnson?

Some people have Johnson as the favourite... and almost everybody have him higher ranked P4P.

The guy has KO’d Jones and beaten Tarver for Christ sake... and he’s younger than Bhop.

cuchulain
02-12-2008, 11:59 AM
Was Quitnan exposed when Cotto beat him...

What about when JT beat Hopkins...

What about when Oscar lost all those time...people in esb are so fukking dumb.

Stupid generalization.

On ESB you get everything from the very brightest, most knowledgeable posters all the way to the most ignorant and ill-informed, and everything in between.

Even the title of this thread should indicate which end of the scale the threadstarter is at.

klion22
02-12-2008, 12:04 PM
PW is a guy who relied on somewhat freakish talents to get it done. He is a huge WW, his reach is unreal, and his workrate is way out there. That was what he relied on.

Dawson is much more "normal". He doesn't have any talents that are freakish or stand out except that one can say he's got a lot of natural talent. He's much more well rounded. His chin is a question for sure but Dawson is just the better overall fighter.

Galileo Galilei
02-12-2008, 12:20 PM
Dawson is a step up from Williams on the talent ladder and that has been there to see.

Williams was getting by with his freakish size and workrate, he has numerous holes.

Dawson is much more fundamentally sound, he doesn't have to rely on his size like PW does.

Dawson is on his way to being a star.

Williams is on his way to being a perrenial contender/belt holder but won't hit the pfp level that Dawson will.

Johnson is a live dog in their bout and if Dawson was to lose that doesnt necessarily mean he got exposed.

Williams is a different story. He was exposed. As a fighter who has no plan B and has no idea how to handle southpaws.

Exposed is a term wayyy overused on this board. I think it fits to a degree with Williams though.

jecxbox
02-12-2008, 12:33 PM
Dawson is a step up from Williams on the talent ladder and that has been there to see.

Williams was getting by with his freakish size and workrate, he has numerous holes.

Dawson is much more fundamentally sound, he doesn't have to rely on his size like PW does.

Dawson is on his way to being a star.

Williams is on his way to being a perrenial contender/belt holder but won't hit the pfp level that Dawson will.

Johnson is a live dog in their bout and if Dawson was to lose that doesnt necessarily mean he got exposed.

Williams is a different story. He was exposed. As a fighter who has no plan B and has no idea how to handle southpaws.

Exposed is a term wayyy overused on this board. I think it fits to a degree with Williams though.

100% completely agree.

UMRichRod
02-12-2008, 12:36 PM
Dawson is a step up from Williams on the talent ladder and that has been there to see.

Williams was getting by with his freakish size and workrate, he has numerous holes.

Dawson is much more fundamentally sound, he doesn't have to rely on his size like PW does.

Dawson is on his way to being a star.

Williams is on his way to being a perrenial contender/belt holder but won't hit the pfp level that Dawson will.

Johnson is a live dog in their bout and if Dawson was to lose that doesnt necessarily mean he got exposed.

Williams is a different story. He was exposed. As a fighter who has no plan B and has no idea how to handle southpaws.

Exposed is a term wayyy overused on this board. I think it fits to a degree with Williams though.

maybe because hae has no am expirinece..get off the kid hes 26 and still learning.

FlatNose
02-12-2008, 12:40 PM
Bah! Williams has one bad night, and he's thrown to the scrap heap by the "experts". Saturdays result just confirmed Cotto and Mayweather are on an island by themselves, and should fight before the year is out.

Brickhaus
02-12-2008, 12:40 PM
If you say Dawson has no defense, you're a damn fool. He'll get hit too often flushly with his defensive style, but he's much better defensively than most big fighters.

jecxbox
02-12-2008, 12:50 PM
Bah! Williams has one bad night, and he's thrown to the scrap heap by the "experts". Saturdays result just confirmed Cotto and Mayweather are on an island by themselves, and should fight before the year is out.

he has no business and future at 147lbs thats all I'm saying. Hes destroying his body and if he moved way up in weight than I think he could better his career and definitely prolong his career. If he stays at 147 for ever he will be totally washed up and incapable of fighting by the time hes 30.

Symphenyceo
02-12-2008, 12:59 PM
Dawson has skill...PW doesnt

Amsterdam
02-12-2008, 01:02 PM
Dawson isn't a hype job a blind man can see his skills dumb thread.:-(

Exactly, and skills are something Williams has very little of, which is why it was ridiculous for people to hype him as a monster. Thus, to those people, 'exposed'.

Galileo Galilei
02-12-2008, 01:38 PM
maybe because hae has no am expirinece..get off the kid hes 26 and still learning.


No amature experience might very well be the reason for the *****s in PWs armor.

But they're still there.

He had no idea what to do when Quintana started landing those lead and counter lefts. He did it all night long.

I think PW is a good welterweight contender and he might be able to fix some of those holes.

But I get the feeling the blueprint for beating PW has been drawn.

ryanty22
02-12-2008, 01:43 PM
call him exposed if you want but he is young and will only get better. he had an off night and will be back. ive never been a big fan of dawson i think tarver has a good shot at beating him but you will never expose the U.S.S. Cunningham biatches