Who are your favourite muay thai/kick boxing fighters?

[Dekkers]

Past and present.

One of my favourites is John "Wayne" Parr. Obviously because he's Australian :D, but I also like his style, he's a tough guy, with heavy hands, also a technical fighter who likes to carry the left leg high. Wasn't as successful in K-1 as he was in Muay thai. If he was going to win that tournament it was going to be the first year he went in (when he was on that tear winning the S-1 cup) ... still there's no shame in losing to Buakaw, especially when it has to go to an extra round and you lose that round via split decision.

Parr's got a huge set of balls, tried his hand at boxing, and he was decent, just not quite enough of a fish in water with boxing to succeed, but tough as nail as always. Recently he jumped in the ring for an mma match with Tony Bonnello, which is insane since even with the two months or so of grapling training he had... there was no chance against Bonello who's much more experienced, and is over 30 pounds heavier easily (grappling with a larger man who's more experienced is even more suicidal than striking with one), but that's Parr, he'll fight anyone, anywhere. He's also a good guy, he and his wife often to post on K-1 fans, here's a nice set of highlights :good

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[Tko4]

Does Gina Carano count? :hey

[Dekkers]

I love Kaoklai, shame he can't get back his old form, used to love seeing him beat fighters who sometimes outweighed him by as much as 70 pounds, the Mighty Mo KO is a classic :yep

[Dekkers]

Does Gina Carano count? :hey

Only if you post pics :smoke

[Dostoevsky]

Jerome Le Banner

The guy is a fucking brick shit house....would not want to mess with him
I suppose a mention of Hoost is mandatory.....but i never really got into him, he was good but his tyle was unappealing to me.

[Donut62]

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If Iggy quits hitting the bottle (in his last fight he looked he did) he can be the best SHW ever.

[Dekkers]

LeBanner is good but he has a GLASS chin.

I think it's more like shaky chin + crap head movement, Hide is the gold glass standard.

[Dekkers]

Rob Kaman is another great fighter with a fantastic low round kick, who could also fight south paw, unfortunately he's not that well known.

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[Raggamuffin]

I liked Remy Bonjasky when he was still the Flying Dutchman.
Now a days he seems content to do just enough and doesn't listen to his corner very well. Kaman is a good pick but so are Samart Payakaroon, Put Pat Noi, Ramon Dekker, Ivan Hippolyte and Peter Smit

[mantis_boxing]

Souwer, Anuwat, Peter Aerts, Masato, Zambidis!

[Dekkers]

Zambidis is good, but i'll always prefer the original, Stan Longinidis :bbb

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[mantis_boxing]

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Zambidis versus Drago from last month's K-1 MAX open tournament. Easily fight of the night. What a war.

[Beebs]

Peter Aerts by a decent margin
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Benny "The Jet" Urquidez, yea he was cocky but he was a pioneer and often overlooked as an MMA Pioneer with his Judo game (fucking sick SeoNage at 3:20)
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Benny vs Shinobu Onuki (The Judo Throw Match)
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This guys got a fucking amazing collection of Kickboxing and Muay Thai fights
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I don't watch it as much as I watch other combat sports, and am not quite as familiar with it, but I do enjoy it, quite a bit.

Also there is Samart Payakaroon who was both a Thai and Western Boxing champion
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[Raggamuffin]

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Zambidis versus Drago from last month's K-1 MAX open tournament. Easily fight of the night. What a war.

I disagree here. It was a lousy fight by Drago who was clearly not his usual fighting self. He seemed off and flat, this compared to his usual"in your face"kinda style
Zambidis is a good little fighter but against a Drago on a good night he would have had it a lot tougher

[Raggamuffin]

Amongst thai fighters, Kaman is top 3 or 4 of all time.
In our gym he is close to godlike.
Where you from Voodoo ?
And what gym ?

[mantis_boxing]

I disagree here. It was a lousy fight by Drago who was clearly not his usual fighting self. He seemed off and flat, this compared to his usual"in your face"kinda style
Zambidis is a good little fighter but against a Drago on a good night he would have had it a lot tougher

Zabidis did have it tough that night. Drago was "in your face" as always but like in last year's semi-final against Por Pramuk, he just got out-fought by a more technical stylist who instead of backing down to his physical style gave just as much if not more than Drago was able to dish. Drago is a top level kickboxer but compared to technicians like Buakaw and Zambidis, he sometimes comes off looking primitive.

[Raggamuffin]

Zabidis did have it tough that night. Drago was "in your face" as always but like in last year's semi-final against Por Pramuk, he just got out-fought by a more technical stylist who instead of backing down to his physical style gave just as much if not more than Drago was able to dish. Drago is a top level kickboxer but compared to technicians like Buakaw and Zambidis, he sometimes comes off looking primitive.

That is true, he still seems a bit raw but his style would give anyone trouble. Esspecially over 5 rounds(not K1 rules)

[Diomedes]

Remy Bonjasky
Jerome LeBanner

[ravtrav]

Peter Aerts by a decent margin
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Benny "The Jet" Urquidez, yea he was cocky but he was a pioneer and often overlooked as an MMA Pioneer with his Judo game (fucking sick SeoNage at 3:20)
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Benny vs Shinobu Onuki (The Judo Throw Match)
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THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION BUT WAS THAT ALLOWED ( THE THROW ). THAT THROW HURT ME WATCHING IT.

[Dekkers]

Amongst thai fighters, Kaman is top 3 or 4 of all time.
In our gym he is close to godlike.

It's hard for a western fighter to get the respect of the Thais, Benny the Jet for example never got it.

P.S. I remember you putting up a poster for one of your fights here on the forums a while back, how did it go Voodoo?

[Beebs]

THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION BUT WAS THAT ALLOWED ( THE THROW ). THAT THROW HURT ME WATCHING IT.

No it wasn't, and it was called a no contest or a DQ, I forget. But in his defense the rules were not particularly clear if I remeber the story right, something about the knees from the clinch making Benny think throws were legal, I really don't remeber. Throws are generally allowed in full on Muay Thai, but you never really see anything like that.

[ravtrav]

No it wasn't, and it was called a no contest or a DQ, I forget. But in his defense the rules were not particularly clear if I remeber the story right, something about the knees from the clinch making Benny think throws were legal, I really don't remeber. Throws are generally allowed in full on Muay Thai, but you never really see anything like that.:good

[cross_trainer]

No it wasn't, and it was called a no contest or a DQ, I forget. But in his defense the rules were not particularly clear if I remeber the story right, something about the knees from the clinch making Benny think throws were legal, I really don't remeber. Throws are generally allowed in full on Muay Thai, but you never really see anything like that.

Muay Thai has limitations on what types of throws are permitted, if I recollect.

[avk47]

I thought Ignashov was awesome once, and he's still pretty young. Any one know what the hell happened that he is really underperforming?

[Raggamuffin]

Ignashov was always a hot/cold kinda fighter. He doesn't really give it his best it seems

[Dekkers]

I thought Ignashov was awesome once, and he's still pretty young. Any one know what the hell happened that he is really underperforming?
I know he had a bad knee injury, I believe he had that operated on (though he had a fight he went into with the injury for legal reasons), that was a couple of years ago. Perhaps he never completely recovered from it :huh

[Dekkers]

Another great fighter that deserves a mention is Jomhod. There was an 'Australia vs Thailand' kickboxing even held down here over a decade ago. Jomhod was matched up against a young Paul Briggs (who was embarking on his first career as a muay thai fighter). I give Paul credit since he must've been 17 years old or so and impressed me more than anyone else on the Australian team, but he didn't have the toughness or conditioning of the Thais at the time, and Jomhod just destroyed him with leg kicks.

Later on Paul went to Thailand to train at the same camp as Jomhod before winning a world title :good

[Dekkers]

May as well stir some shit about Benny the Jet while i'm at it :D

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In the late 1970's Benny "The Jet" Urquidez faced Prayoud Sittiboonlert of Thailand in Japan. The rules in this encounter allowed the use of knees. Sittiboonlert was not the current Muay Thai Champion. Nevertheless, he punished Urquidez so bad that Urquidez's cornermen threw in the towel at the end of Round 2. In the picture (left), Sittiboonlert throws a brutal Thai kick to Urquidez's legs. What upsets me about the Urquidez publicists is the fact that they totally try to hide the result of this match. In the December 1998 issue of Black Belt Magazine (pages 33-34), Floyd Burk wrote: "Urquidez was so 'bad' that he could go to any country on earth, fight anybody he was paired up with according to their rules - and beat the living daylights out of them . . . Thai boxing-style leg whips and elbow and knee strikes, made it impossible for Urquidez's opponents to plan an effective strategy against him. They tried, but not a single one could do it." I've had enough of such false information surrounding Urquidez's misrepresented undefeated record and his false claims of having faced kickboxing opponents under any rules. For one, Sittiboonlert beat Benny soundly. Benny could not continue into the third round. Secondly, the WKA later ruled the fight a "no-contest" because they wanted to protect the record of their boy. How could someone not have a "lost" on their record if their cornermen threw in the towel? Third, Benny did not want anything to do with having to fight against a Muay Thai fighter in Thailand (especially with knees, elbows, and clinching). He repeatedly rejected any further challenges. To Urquidez's publicists and future publicists, if you want to say that Urquidez was a Full-Contact Karate Champion, then that's okay - you would have my respect. But don't try to misinform the public by saying that Benny was an undefeated World Champion in the ring who beat all of his ring challengers. He never stepped into Thailand and his lost to Sittiboonlert was never on his record. I don't know if Benny is responsible for the misrepresentation. But his publicists need to start telling the truth. I apologize for the rather rude connotation of this statement, but I've tolerated the lack of respect towards Thai Boxers from Urquidez's crew for more than a decade and it's time to show the world the truth. It is disrespectful to lose to an opponent or to refuse the challenges of a legitimate challenger and talk as if you have conquered them. That is disrespect to Sittiboonlert! That is disrespect to Muay Thai! And I'm not just speaking for the Muay Thai community in Thailand, but for the many Muay Thai practitioners in the USA, Europe, Asia, Australia, and New Zealand.

[Donut62]

Supposedly Ignashov is a raging alcoholic.

[Dekkers]

Supposedly Ignashov is a raging alcoholic. He's Russian, these people invented the 'alco-movie' (a movie consisting entirely of two people drinking) and considered it a 'great cultural contribution'.

[ufoalf]

He's Russian, these people invented the 'alco-movie' (a movie consisting entirely of two people drinking) and considered it a 'great cultural contribution'.

What?

[Dekkers]

What?

It's some sort of art house genre of movie that exists in Russia, movies/short films devoted entirely to boozing :yep

[ufoalf]

Yea, i know there are movies which are about alcohol in a major way. Most of them are comedies and very good ones at that. But a movie about "two guys drinking the whole movie" is something i havent heard of.

[Dekkers]

Yea, i know there are movies which are about alcohol in a major way. Most of them are comedies and very good ones at that. But a movie about "two guys drinking the whole movie" is something i havent heard of.

I assume they have variations like 3 guys drinking in park, or 6 guys drinking in a pub, but that's the general idea. Any country that makes movies like that need to lay off the bottle :D

[ufoalf]

I assume they have variations like 3 guys drinking in park, or 6 guys drinking in a pub, but that's the general idea. Any country that makes movies like that need to lay off the bottle :D

Nope, that sound more like British comedy. You have to be Russian to understand those comedies though. But Russians does have to lay off the bottle no doubt. One of my best friends who i knew since i can remember dropped out of college because he turned alcoholic :verysad

[Dostoevsky]

Are you a professional fighter?

[buzzsaw]

Bunkerd Faphimai

[avk47]

It's some sort of art house genre of movie that exists in Russia, movies/short films devoted entirely to boozing :yep

I'm Russian and I've never heard of it, it can't be that mainstream even if it does exist!

On the other hand, alcohol is a tragic achilles heal for many post Soviet people. Many people I knew fucked their lives because of it, and it's a real shame if Ignashov drank away the talent he had. It's partly because life has always been tough there, men drink, and their drinking makes things even more shiter... some kind of vicious circle really.

[Dekkers]

I am not sure which one.
The last one I had to bow out of due to injury, which was humiliating.
I'll soon fight again.

Nothing embarrassing about that, good luck with the next one :good

[Dekkers]

I'm Russian and I've never heard of it, it can't be that mainstream even if it does exist!

On the other hand, alcohol is a tragic achilles heal for many post Soviet people. Many people I knew fucked their lives because of it, and it's a real shame if Ignashov drank away the talent he had. It's partly because life has always been tough there, men drink, and their drinking makes things even more shiter... some kind of vicious circle really.

I saw a news peice here in Australia (on SBS) on the drinking problems in Russia, that's when the 'alco-movie' came up, they showed 'highlights' of a short film which consisted of two guys drinking in a bar without any actual dialogue... suffice to say, I didn't get it :huh

I can give you the name of one 'Alco-movie', though I haven't seen it, 'A fate' by Andrey Silvestrov.

Also, that's a shame about Ignashov, he won't bounce back if he can't control his drinking.