Ruslan Chagaev vs. Oleg Maskaev

[Superheavyweight]

I can see this fight happening if and when Maskaev gets past Peter.

They owe it to the fans to set up the fight for the vacant undisputed heavyweight title with Wlad.

[bestdefense117]

Maskaev is a good boxer with hard punches but Chagaev is smarter and more elusive and will win this fight UD.

[andyZOR]

I don't know. Its hard couse we don't even know what Maskeav's condition is lie.

Chagaev has at least been semi busy Maskev hasn't fought in what? A year?

Ring Rust will affect him v Peter so i thin we should worry about Oleg getting past Peter than Chagaev.

I also doubt the Chagaev fight would happen anyways. Whats with Vitali klitschko?

If he plans a come back A unification between them will have to wait even longer.

[Superheavyweight]

I was right about Klitschko/Ibragimov... let’s see if I’m right about this.

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[Punisher33]

I dont know, Chagaev's last fight was shit and Maskeav hasn't fought in almost a year and hasnt fought a credible oppenent since Rahman, which was a year and a half ago. I still would take Chagaev based on talent alone, but who knows anymore, this division keeps getting weaker and weaker, between postponements and lack of talent, I dont know whats worse.

[red cobra]

Chagaev is a smarter fighter than Maskaev and would outpoint him over 12. I'll say it again, Chagaev and Ibragimov may not look like athletes, but both are smart, effective fighters, and either one could beat Chagaev, who, incidently has a better chance of beating Sam Peter.

[Heavyrighthand]

Maskaev is a good boxer with hard punches but Chagaev is smarter and more elusive and will win this fight UD.

Agree. Chag is a slick and fast fighter who'd probably be able to avoid Oleg's big shots and outwork him to a UD.

But what a great matchup this would be, given that we already have the other two titles being unified shortly.

[magnificentdave]

I think Oleg has a fair chance of pulling this out, actually. But honestly, I'm basing this on the Oleg that fought Rahman, and that was.... a while ago. But all things being equal, I think he brings a LOT of big fight experience and a very healthy mental attitude in the ring these days and it would be a pick-em fight, with the edge going to Oleg based on technical skill and experience.

[magnificentdave]

It would be a different story if Chagaev had completely outclassed Skelton, but I think Oleg could have easily done atleast as well as chagaev in that fight.

[RUSKULL]

I dont know, Chagaev's last fight was shit and Maskeav hasn't fought in almost a year and hasnt fought a credible oppenent since Rahman, which was a year and a half ago. I still would take Chagaev based on talent alone, but who knows anymore, this division keeps getting weaker and weaker, between postponements and lack of talent, I dont know whats worse.

I don't see a lack of talent, all the current beltholders are decent fighters for at least one reason or another.....................

2 fast counter puncing lefties in Chagaev & Ibragimov & 2 power punching brawlers in Maskaev & Peter. Those make up #2 through #5 for the record.

Povetkin, Haye, Arreola, Chambers, Boystov, Virchis, Gomez, Dimentrenko & a few others are up & coming while Tua, Moorer, Ruiz, Golota, Byrd, Holyfield, Rahaman, Briggs, Liakhovich, Valuev and a few others represent the the former champions/contenders segment.

[LightningJoe]

Readng that just reminds me of how crap the heavies are.

[Punisher33]

I don't see a lack of talent, all the current beltholders are decent fighters for at least one reason or another.....................

2 fast counter puncing lefties in Chagaev & Ibragimov & 2 power punching brawlers in Maskaev & Peter. Those make up #2 through #5 for the record.

Povetkin, Haye, Arreola, Chambers, Boystov, Virchis, Gomez, Dimentrenko & a few others are up & coming while Tua, Moorer, Ruiz, Golota, Byrd, Holyfield, Rahaman, Briggs, Liakhovich, Valuev and a few others represent the the former champions/contenders segment. There are some interesting guys you named, but Holyfield, Rahman, Moorer, Bryd, and Ruiz are fighters I would like to see retire, more than fight. As far as talent goes, only Wlad really possess a great deal of it and is exciting to watch fight as well, while Iggy is a boring fighter to watch and while he does have good skills, he lacks the power the fans crave, Peter is not exactly talented, though he's very exciting to watch fight for the average boxing fan, Chageav is good and I thought very highly of him until his recent cancellation of the unification fight between him and Iggy, also his lack luster performance against Skeleton doesnt say to much for him, Maskaev is ok, he's just too injury proned to be a real threat in the division IMO.

[brooklyn1550]

Chagaev would beat Maskaev

[geppy]

I dont know, Chagaev's last fight was shit and Maskeav hasn't fought in almost a year and hasnt fought a credible oppenent since Rahman, which was a year and a half ago. I still would take Chagaev based on talent alone, but who knows anymore, this division keeps getting weaker and weaker, between postponements and lack of talent, I dont know whats worse.

Ok, I didn't see Chagaev's last fight. But Chagaev's fight couldn't possible be any more shit than Sam Peter's last fight!! Which was almost a near total disaster, numerous knock down, early embarrassing knock out.

If just going by a fighters last fight, you shouldn't think Sam Peter is any good. He supposedly had devasting power, he landed many punches but didnt faze Mccline once. Supposedly he had an iron chin, but Mccline fucking knocked him around the ring like a pinball. Peter was lucky to survive that onslaught. Had the first KD been earlier in the round, Peter was done period. He was KD twice quick in the next even after the break between rounds.

[BigBone]

Chagaev UD12 Maskaev in a very boring fight.

[DamonD]

The winner of Peter-Maskaev has to fight Vitali first though.
Assuming he can hobble his way to the ring, of course.

And then there is the Virchis-Gomez #1 mandatory winner after that.

Really, the WBC is held up pretty tight until 2009. And God help them if they have any rematches.

[Superheavyweight]

The winner of Peter-Maskaev has to fight Vitali first though.
Assuming he can hobble his way to the ring, of course.

And then there is the Virchis-Gomez #1 mandatory winner after that.

Really, the WBC is held up pretty tight until 2009. And God help them if they have any rematches.Not really... Povetkin and Thompson have higher priority than Vitali and Gomez but that didn’t stop Wlad unifying with Ibragimov.

This fight will happen this year probably in September.

I called Klitschko/Ibragimov 6 months before it happened and I’m calling this.

A heavyweight will be the first man to unify all 5 belts... but Wlad and Chagaev will have to defend against the likes of Vitali/Gomez/Haye/Povetkin/Thompson/Harrison before they can do that.

It’s going to be tough for the 2 champs.

[Punisher33]

Ok, I didn't see Chagaev's last fight. But Chagaev's fight couldn't possible be any more shit than Sam Peter's last fight!! Which was almost a near total disaster, numerous knock down, early embarrassing knock out.

If just going by a fighters last fight, you shouldn't think Sam Peter is any good. He supposedly had devasting power, he landed many punches but didnt faze Mccline once. Supposedly he had an iron chin, but Mccline fucking knocked him around the ring like a pinball. Peter was lucky to survive that onslaught. Had the first KD been earlier in the round, Peter was done period. He was KD twice quick in the next even after the break between rounds. What are you talking about, the first knockdown Mccline landed in the 2nd round on Peter was nothing, Peter was off balance and Mccline landed a punch, the 3rd round was a different story, Peter took alot of big shots, but showed alot of heart and toughness, and went on to out box Mccline. Peter did rock Mccline once or twice, but Mccline, who has a pretty good chin himself took the punches well.

I think people must remember Peter took this fight on 9 days notice, fighting a completely different oppenent entirely, so I gave him pass. I think everyone will get a great show when Sam Peter brutally knockouts Maskaev early in the fight, when Peter is fully prepared and trained for his oppenent, he becomes one of the most dangerous fighters in the Heavyweight division.

[geppy]

What are you talking about, the first knockdown Mccline landed in the 2nd round on Peter was nothing, Peter was off balance and Mccline landed a punch, the 3rd round was a different story, Peter took alot of big shots, but showed alot of heart and toughness, and went on to out box Mccline. Peter did rock Mccline once or twice, but Mccline, who has a pretty good chin himself took the punches well.

I think people must remember Peter took this fight on 9 days notice, fighting a completely different oppenent entirely, so I gave him pass. I think everyone will get a great show when Sam Peter brutally knockouts Maskaev early in the fight, when Peter is fully prepared and trained for his oppenent, he becomes one of the most dangerous fighters in the Heavyweight division.

Peter was walking on thin ice, Sam was very lucky he wasn't taken out. Maskaev hits harder then Mccline and is quicker, but obviously doesnt have a good chin.

Yeah, Peter took the Mccline fight on short notice. But that shouldn't effect Sam Peter's ability to take a punch, or his punching power. Which both are overrated, compared to prior beliefs that Peter's chin was indestuctable and him having devasting one punch power ( Peter landed many punches and didnt hurt Mccline the slightest once).

[Punisher33]

Peter was walking on thin ice, Sam was very lucky he wasn't taken out. Maskaev hits harder then Mccline and is quicker, but obviously doesnt have a good chin.

Yeah, Peter took the Mccline fight on short notice. But that shouldn't effect Sam Peter's ability to take a punch, or his punching power. Which both are overrated, compared to prior beliefs that Peter's chin was indestuctable and him having devasting one punch power ( Peter landed many punches and didnt hurt Mccline the slightest once). Actually, taken a fight on short notice can mess up your timing, which effects your power punching ability. Peter took the fight on 9 days notice which left him almost no time to work with the new sparring partner he had to bring into his camp, that mirrors Mccline size and style. Mccline is about 6'6 265-270, while Maskaev is like 6'2 and a half 230-235, thats a pretty big difference dont you think?

As far as who has more punching Mccline or Maskaev, I feel Mccline has more proven early round power, it's only later when he gases out, does he lose it. Mccline has knocked down A and B class fighters early in fights, guys like Briggs, Brock, Grant, Bryd, and the latest Sam Peter. Sam Peter did hurt Mccline twice in the fight, but he was able to clinch and hold Peter until the punch wore off.

[geppy]

Actually, taken a fight on short notice can mess up your timing, which effects your power punching ability. Peter took the fight on 9 days notice which left him almost no time to work with the new sparring partner he had to bring into his camp, that mirrors Mccline size and style. Mccline is about 6'6 265-270, while Maskaev is like 6'2 and a half 230-235, thats a pretty big difference dont you think?

As far as who has more punching Mccline or Maskaev, I feel Mccline has more proven early round power, it's only later when he gases out, does he lose it. Mccline has knocked down A and B class fighters early in fights, guys like Briggs, Brock, Grant, Bryd, and the latest Sam Peter. Sam Peter did hurt Mccline twice in the fight, but he was able to clinch and hold Peter until the punch wore off.

No, Mccline was never hurt, that is BS. I watched the fight several times for a good laugh! You have no room to talk about Chagaev's last fight, and toot Sam Peter's horn, when his last fight was horrendous.

[Punisher33]

No, Mccline was never hurt, that is BS. I watched the fight several times for a good laugh! You have no room to talk about Chagaev's last fight, and toot Sam Peter's horn, when his last fight was horrendous. Peter won didnt he? Chageav is actually one of my favorite Heavyweights at the moment, just below Peter and Brewster. Chagaev fought extremely well against Valuev in April of 07, it was actually my favorite Heavyweight fight of this past year. The way he fought at angles and got under alot of Valuevs punches was wonderful, but his fight against Skeleton and him ducking Iggy, made me drop Chagaev a little bit. I just hope Chageav can get it together and really become a serious threat to Wlad, like I originally thought he was after the Valuev fight.

[KobeIsGod]

some people are overrating chagaev. he's solid but he is a one-handed fighter and i dont care how good his left is, he is one-dimensional and can be had by several hws. he's not close to wlad's level.

i was really high on maskaev after his 2nd ko of rahman but he has been the textbook definition of a 'paper champ' while he holds the belt hostage. peter beating maskaev would be better for the division cause he is young and active. but i will be cheering for maskaev for obvious reasons :yep

if the maskaev who fought rahman went up against chagaev, id take maskaev by narrow decision or late stoppage. maskaev can throw combinations with power in either hand. it wont be one punch and done like all the fighters chagaev has fought. chagaev is not active enough imo.