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"He's gone!"
02-15-2008, 04:44 PM
The Manchester Evening News has a story making it seem Juan Lazcano is pretty much certain to be Ricky Hatton's next opponent. Apparently there has been a gentlemens agreement in place that the fight would take place eventually after Lazcano had to pull out of a 2006 fight through injury.
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kurt2006
02-15-2008, 04:52 PM
Thats so nice of Hatton.
He keep's bitching about the ref etc in the PBF fight and wanting a rematch so when he going to give Collazo a rematch.
scurlaruntings
02-15-2008, 05:24 PM
Although at Hattons level this is a bit of an empty bout. I dont see the point in him facing Lazcano. He needs to capitalise on his waning momento and make some noise vs the title holders at 140.Nothing else really matters.
Although at Hattons level this is a bit of an empty bout. I dont see the point in him facing Lazcano. He needs to capitalise on his waning momento and make some noise vs the title holders at 140.Nothing else really matters.
Agree. Lazcano is a good top 10 operator, but what does beating him really prove, what does Ricky Hatton gain. a fight with a 140 belt holder is much more worth while. If not Witter then why not torres...?
GazOC
02-15-2008, 08:39 PM
Thats so nice of Hatton.
He keep's bitching about the ref etc in the PBF fight and wanting a rematch so when he going to give Collazo a rematch.
When Collazo can make 140?;)
BaronBrad
02-16-2008, 04:48 AM
Ricky knows that his fanboys will pay good money to watch him fight any old stooge so I don't think he really cares who he faces as long as the risk is low and the reward is high.
Have to remember that Floyd was the only world class fighter Ricky has fought who was still in their prime. He has made a career of fighting tomato cans and then picking up the easy titles against B and C level fighters.
Why would we expect anything different?
stuey
02-16-2008, 05:08 AM
come on chaps, he is coming off fights against a modern great in jl castillo and the absolute champ in pbf, is he not allowed a slightly easier night at the office? i agree iys not the fight i would have picked, but lazcano is live and should go at it with rficky thus creating an exciting fight.
all this hatton hating is getting out of hand...
scurlaruntings
02-16-2008, 07:39 AM
come on chaps, he is coming off fights against a modern great in jl castillo and the absolute champ in pbf, is he not allowed a slightly easier night at the office? i agree iys not the fight i would have picked, but lazcano is live and should go at it with rficky thus creating an exciting fight.
all this hatton hating is getting out of hand...We knew the result of the PBF bout before it happened. As for Castillo Hatton doesnt get a bly. The guy was so old he was spitting dust. If his not going to fight at 47 at least fight a SOMEBODY at 140.Otherwise whats the point?
As for Castillo Hatton doesnt get a bly. The guy was so old he was spitting dust.
I take it you don't want Hatton to fight Witter, as Witter is older than Castillo was when Hatton fought him?
GazOC
02-16-2008, 07:51 AM
Its a comeback fight against a decent opponent, his last few fights have included PBF, Castillo, Maussa (after the Harris win) and Collazo...that a pretty solid bunch.
drama
02-16-2008, 07:58 AM
Hatton MUST fight Witter!
GazOC
02-16-2008, 08:13 AM
"lazcano a good top 10 operator"????
are you fucking stupid are do you have your cock up hattons ass???
The Ring has him at number 7 at 140.
Smith
02-16-2008, 08:34 AM
I hate this 'comeback' argument. I'm sorry, I never realised Ricky retired. Why is it made out like a 'comeback' when he loses, but if he wins and his next fight is juts called, 'his next fight'. The comeback word is used as an argument for accepting an easier fight, which Ive always though is bullshit. Its not as if he lost at 140, he is still ring champion there. Imagine if he never fought floyd and decided to fight Lazcano at 140, he would get slated. So why should it be any different now?
dan-b
02-16-2008, 08:36 AM
I take it you don't want Hatton to fight Witter, as Witter is older than Castillo was when Hatton fought him?
It's not about age.:roll:
GazOC
02-16-2008, 08:37 AM
Most boxers when they lose a 'big fight' have a confidence building fight next. Thats just the way it works, why pick on Hatton for going down the same route that boxers have done for years?
Smith
02-16-2008, 08:40 AM
Most boxers when they lose a 'big fight' have a confidence building fight next. Thats just the way it works, why pick on Hatton for going down the same route that boxers have done for years?Yes they do, in the same division, not when they go back down to there natural division. Im not just picking on Hatton either, its bullshit whoever does this.
I for one am immensly impressed by Jermain Taylor's attitude despite the stick he gets.
GazOC
02-16-2008, 08:45 AM
So Hatton steps up in weight and loses to the P4P number 1 then defends against the Ring ranked number 7 in the world at 140.....could be a lot worse.
scurlaruntings
02-16-2008, 08:45 AM
I take it you don't want Hatton to fight Witter, as Witter is older than Castillo was when Hatton fought him?Why dont you make a sensible point instead of talking crap. Number 1 Junior is a year younger than Castillo. Number 2 Whats ages they fight is completely unimportant.Number 3 Castillo has been a pro since he was around 15.His also been in many wars and has TONS of mileage on him with 60 plus fights on his ledger. Junior doesnt have a fraction of the mileage that Castillo has. Ever seen his legendary bouts with Corrales? No i didnt think so.Idiot.:roll:
scurlaruntings
02-16-2008, 08:47 AM
Most boxers when they lose a 'big fight' have a confidence building fight next. Thats just the way it works, why pick on Hatton for going down the same route that boxers have done for years?Yes but Hattons had about 30 confidence buildes. Look at how weak 140 is and he cant even challenge a belt holder?! Thats just pussy.
GazOC
02-16-2008, 08:53 AM
Yes but Hattons had about 30 confidence buildes. Look at how weak 140 is and he cant even challenge a belt holder?! Thats just pussy.
Hatton doesn't have to "challenge" anyone at 140, he's the man at that weight. Linear and ranked.
bumdujour
02-16-2008, 09:16 AM
lazcanos last fight,, he got beaten by vivian harris. before that, he got beaten by clubfighter manuel garnica.....only to get a gift decision.
and his last fight was over a year ago.
this is an absolute sick joke. hatton is making one giant ass of himself.
Polymath
02-16-2008, 09:31 AM
Hatton doesn't have to "challenge" anyone at 140, he's the man at that weight. Linear and ranked.
He definitely doesn't with fans like you who'll cheer anything.
scurlaruntings
02-16-2008, 09:35 AM
Hatton doesn't have to "challenge" anyone at 140, he's the man at that weight. Linear and ranked.He doesnt hold any of the known titles at the weight.Semantic or not he IS a title challenger. His tenure as the man at 140 is also spurious as its high time he cemented himself as THE man at the weight. Im tired of these gap fillers and pointless sojourns to 47 only for him to scuttle back to 40 and then fans like yourself proudly proclaim him to be the man at 140. Gimme a fucking break.
bumdujour
02-16-2008, 09:47 AM
shannon briggs was also the "linear champ" when he faced lewis.
now that shows you how much that "belt" is worth.
GazOC
02-16-2008, 09:49 AM
He doesnt hold any of the known titles at the weight.Semantic or not he IS a title challenger. His tenure as the man at 140 is also spurious as its high time he cemented himself as THE man at the weight. Im tired of these gap fillers and pointless sojourns to 47 only for him to scuttle back to 40 and then fans like yourself proudly proclaim him to be the man at 140. Gimme a fucking break.
With an atitude like that I take it you're not big on boxing history? Like it or not Hatton is the man at 140, he's linear, he's ranked and he's the big name.
Why dont you make a sensible point instead of talking crap. Number 1 Junior is a year younger than Castillo. Number 2 Whats ages they fight is completely unimportant.Number 3 Castillo has been a pro since he was around 15.His also been in many wars and has TONS of mileage on him with 60 plus fights on his ledger. Junior doesnt have a fraction of the mileage that Castillo has. Ever seen his legendary bouts with Corrales? No i didnt think so.Idiot.:roll:
Witter is 3 months younger than Castillo. Witter is now older than Castillo was at the time of the Hatton fight.
If ages are not important, why did you say 'As for Castillo Hatton doesnt get a bly. The guy was so old he was spitting dust' ?
Idiot. :rofl
bumdujour
02-16-2008, 09:51 AM
With an atitude like that I take it you're not big on boxing history? Like it or not Hatton is the man at 140, he's linear, he's ranked and he's the big name.
You are one of those types who grew up with their mommy telling them "you can be EVERYTHING when you grow up"........arent you:lol:
GazOC
02-16-2008, 09:53 AM
shannon briggs was also the "linear champ" when he faced lewis.
now that shows you how much that "belt" is worth.
Thats how boxing works, Spinks was linear when he fought Tyson. He was still the champ in most true boxing fans eyes, even if he wasn't the better fighter.
I don't see how it applies to Hatton at 140 though? He's linear and ranked, unlike Briggs and Spinks....in fact its a piss poor example to bring up.
GazOC
02-16-2008, 09:55 AM
He definitely doesn't with fans like you who'll cheer anything.
I'm not "cheering" I'm just saying Lascano isn't a bad fight in the circumstances. People are losing perspective over this fight.
GazOC
02-16-2008, 09:56 AM
You are one of those types who grew up with their mommy telling them "you can be EVERYTHING when you grow up"........arent you:lol:
WTF?:huh:patsch
scurlaruntings
02-16-2008, 10:12 AM
With an atitude like that I take it you're not big on boxing history? Like it or not Hatton is the man at 140, he's linear, he's ranked and he's the big name.No of course im not. Iv only been following boxing since yesterday.
Anyway.
As for Hatton being linear ranked a big name i couldnt care less. In the days of old the CHAMPION fought the number 1 challenger.He didnt make excuses and complain that "that man talked bad about me so i wont fight him" or "his not a big enough name so i dont need to fight him". Now seeing as your so on point with your boxing history im sure your aware of the fact that in days gone by it was 1 champ per divison and that champ defended against the NUMBER 1 recognised challenger.
Scurla, reply to my post....
GazOC
02-16-2008, 10:27 AM
No of course im not. Iv only been following boxing since yesterday.
Anyway.
As for Hatton being linear ranked a big name i couldnt care less. In the days of old the CHAMPION fought the number 1 challenger.He didnt make excuses and complain that "that man talked bad about me so i wont fight him" or "his not a big enough name so i dont need to fight him". Now seeing as your so on point with your boxing history im sure your aware of the fact that in days gone by it was 1 champ per divison and that champ defended against the NUMBER 1 recognised challenger.
Take the rose tinted specs off, even in the 'good old days' champions didn't always fight the number 1 contender and you know it!
dwilson
02-16-2008, 10:46 AM
The only thing that bothers me about Hatton fighting Lascano is the statement that Hatton only wants to fight twice this year. Does that mean that come the fight after he will need another "gimme" build up fight to compensate for the time off?
If Hatton and his fans are going to run thier mouths about him being the top guy at light welter he needs to start putting all the other pretenders in thier place not fighting duffs like Lascano.
If Hatton was to have maybe four fights this year then a build up fight would have held more leverage but has it is now he should only be fighting the guys with belts or the reputation to justify all the bullshit flying around.
GazOC
02-16-2008, 10:57 AM
How many champions fight four or five times a year? 2 or 3 is pretty much the standard these days.
dwilson
02-16-2008, 11:02 AM
How many champions fight four or five times a year? 2 or 3 is pretty much the standard these days.
Point is that he is not a champion.
Champions get away with it because they hold all the cards and each fight counts as a defense and has sufficient meaning because of that.
Hatton is good enough to beat all the belt holders so why not just go out thier and do it instead of fighting a fight that has such little meaning it is pointless.
Hatton for me still has a few good fights left in him and also has some very good opponents to choose from and the opportunity to add more belts to his cv. A fight against Lascano or Isaac gives him nothing and would generate less money than fighting one of the more respected guys around the division.
GazOC
02-16-2008, 11:07 AM
Of course he's the champion...
dwilson
02-16-2008, 11:08 AM
Of course he's the champion...
Of hearts and minds like Diana...
Polymath
02-16-2008, 11:40 AM
:rofl
:good
mike464
02-16-2008, 11:53 AM
If Hatton fought some one like Cotto I wouldn't be annoyed that he's avoiding Witter but not fighting Witter to fight Lazcano! What a joke.
mike464
02-16-2008, 11:57 AM
No of course im not. Iv only been following boxing since yesterday.
Anyway.
As for Hatton being linear ranked a big name i couldnt care less. In the days of old the CHAMPION fought the number 1 challenger.He didnt make excuses and complain that "that man talked bad about me so i wont fight him" or "his not a big enough name so i dont need to fight him". Now seeing as your so on point with your boxing history im sure your aware of the fact that in days gone by it was 1 champ per divison and that champ defended against the NUMBER 1 recognised challenger.:good
GazOC
02-16-2008, 11:59 AM
...ah, the good ole days.....:huh:lol:
Polymath
02-16-2008, 12:01 PM
If Hatton fought some one like Cotto I wouldn't be annoyed that he's avoiding Witter but not fighting Witter to fight Lazcano! What a joke.
I think he should rematch Collazo (like he said he would) so he can claim, with legitimacy, to being a two-weight World Champion.
GazOC
02-16-2008, 12:04 PM
Having lost to Mayweather at 147 beating Collazo wouldn't make Hatton a legit champion.
Polymath
02-16-2008, 12:12 PM
Having lost to Mayweather at 147 beating Collazo wouldn't make Hatton a legit champion.
It legitimizes his 'victory' over Collazo and proves he had what is takes to beat at least an abc like champ of 147. As it is every Hatton interview involves him mentioning the fact he is a "two weight world champion" - no he's not, and he's not going to beat any of the other champions either, but at least a convincing win over Collazo would allow him to make that claim without sounding so hollow.
GazOC
02-16-2008, 12:18 PM
He's beat Collazo and lost to Mayweather, beating Collazo again just so he still won't be a two time world champ in most people book seems a bit pointless. I havn't seen the Collazo fight but most people seem on the general forum (ie a mixed bunch) seemed to have it for Hatton by 1 or 2 rounds???
warrior85
02-16-2008, 12:20 PM
hatton beat collazo,it was nearly 2 years ago get over it&there aint gonna be a rematch.as for the future if this fight happens he beats lazcano,he beats torres,kills mallignaggi&rees doesnt see rnd 5,and he beats witter.
Polymath
02-16-2008, 12:23 PM
Regardless of the scorecard, Hatton got the shit beaten out of him; Collazo looked fresh and healthy after the fight, hatton looked like he'd been in a train wreck. Prove youre better than an ABC title holder or stop calling yourself a two-weight world champion.
Plus its unfinished business, and at least has some point of interest. But it doesnt matter , Hatton will fight Lazcano and his fans will eat it up:-(
GazOC
02-16-2008, 12:27 PM
Regardless of the scorecard, Hatton got the shit beaten out of him; Collazo looked fresh and healthy after the fight, hatton looked like he'd been in a train wreck. Prove youre better than an ABC title holder or stop calling yourself a two-weight world champion.
Plus its unfinished business, and at least has some point of interest. But it doesnt matter , Hatton will fight Lazcano and his fans will eat it up:-(
What the hell does it matter what a boxer looked like after a fight? Hatton won the fight, beating Collazo again would not in any way strengthen his claim to be a two-weight world champion.
Hatton looks like he's been in a train wreck before a fight, let alone after it.
Matches aren't won on appearance, they're won on the scorecards, moron.
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