Mikkel Kessler vs Jermaine Taylor

[196osh]

How would you all see this fight going at 168, say after Taylor had a confience boosting win?

[MasterFlo]

I still give it to Kessler.

[brooklyn1550]

Kessler TKO in the middle rounds

[Fedor Em]

Kessler still wins, late round TKO with the scores close. Jermains stamina is improving but still not good enough to go 12 hard rounds with Kessler.

[NJeffectelement]

You guys must hate Taylor, because I think Kessler will kill him.

[Toopretty]

Kessler aint stopping JT. EVER. Pavlik knocked him out by accumilation. Kessler falls in love with his one punch. JT has a sharper and more versatile jab. Kessler comes in a straight line even more so the pavlik. But Kessler cant or does not like to take shots. Also JT throws ALL of his punches with pop and speed. Kessler has to load up. You ingrates overrate these overseas abc 123 fighters.

[H .]

Taylor seems to be on the decline. Unimpressive since the Hopkins victories. I'll reluctantly go with Kessler.

[pipe wrenched]

168, Taylor's comin!! With Joe C. up at 175, 68 will be Taylor's domain.

[huki]

Kessler aint stopping JT. EVER. Pavlik knocked him out by accumilation. Kessler falls in love with his one punch. JT has a sharper and more versatile jab. Kessler comes in a straight line even more so the pavlik. But Kessler cant or does not like to take shots. Also JT throws ALL of his punches with pop and speed. Kessler has to load up. You ingrates overrate these overseas abc 123 fighters.
Pavlik can knock Taylor out by accumulation at 160, but Kessler (who does every single thing better than Pavlik) can't at 168? "Kessler cant or does not like to take shots"? He won't be taking barely any shots that the very perdictable Taylor throws. Kessler would knock Taylor out in the first half of the fight, easily.

[dan-b]

Taylor has more to his game but he wouldn't have the work rate to decision Kessler.

[TFFP]

Kessler does everything better than Taylor

Easy UD

[pryorgatti]

Kessler by TKO 10

[196osh]

Kessler TKO7.

[Benjiabc]

kessler TKO. if taylor knows whats good for him he will stay clear of kessler. i am a taylor fan and i would like to see him take on miranda or lacy



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[fidds]

kessler would rape him to a mid round stoppage:good

[qcolts]

Kessler UD

[196osh]

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How do you guy's see Jermaine winning this one?

[JAM Killer]

Taylor's defense has truly stepped up. Kessler was pretty much getting hit at will by Calzaghe. It would be a good match up.

[randeris]

Taylor is very easy to read and would be countered all night long. He might have faster hands in a flurry, but his one punch delivery is not faster and Kessler hits harder. He would be beat to the punch and hurt due to Kesslers accuracy and punching technique. Whether Kessler could KO him i dont know, but he would certainly beat him.

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How do you guy's see Jermaine winning this one?

Speed and he will need that Tenacious D from last night too.

[Zakman]

Kessler takes the fraud out in the middle rounds

[Boinko]

Kessler takes the fraud out in the middle rounds

Why is Taylor a fraud? He actually fought quite well against Pavlik, took some very good shots, and made the fight competitive. Sure, he definitely lost but at least give the guy some props. Most people (myself included) were certain he would get KO'd again. Try and put aside the ridiculously biased hate for once in your life Zakman and give credit where credit is due.

[psychopath]

Kesller wins via wide UD.

[TFFP]

At least Kessler would have to adapt to getting hit twice as hard by Taylor than the slapper. It would be a close fight.
You are joking?

Taylor isn't a big puncher. Joe hurt Kessler badly in the 7th, Taylor couldn't even shift Spinks or Ouma

[brooklyn1550]

I'm certain he has a chance of a technical stoppage being as HIS refs are all looking to stop fights prematurely to protect him.

To protect him?

More like to protect the other fighters from getting a beatdown in the mid/later rounds.

[TFFP]

Joking? No. Hardly. JC can't punch his way out of a paperbag. Lacy has zero head movement and is so muscle bound he can barely move his upper body and Joe hit him with about a thousand punches and never came close to stopping Lacy. Taylor hits friggin' twice as hard as JC. Joe can't punch with power. That is the weakest point of his game. Joe wouldn't KO Spinks or Ouma EITHER. Of course, if the fight was held at home I'm certain he has a chance of a technical stoppage being as HIS refs are all looking to stop fights prematurely to protect him.
Who has he ever stopped? He couldn't stop 2 JMW's, and he's a huge middleweight himself. What more evidence do we need he also can't hit his way out of a paper bag?

Calzaghe couldn't stop Kassim Ouma or Spinks? :lol: Joe walks around at cruiser, he would be so much bigger and stronger it would be a demolition

[cardstars]

I would take Kessler by ko somewhere in the 3-6 round range. No way Taylor can hang with the big boys at 168. I heard that Kess was at the Taylor/Pavlik fight last night. Not sure who he was looking to fight but if JT signs to fight Kess he will have three losses in a row....yikes

[sherbert]

Kessler aint stopping JT. EVER. Pavlik knocked him out by accumilation. Kessler falls in love with his one punch. JT has a sharper and more versatile jab. Kessler comes in a straight line even more so the pavlik. But Kessler cant or does not like to take shots. Also JT throws ALL of his punches with pop and speed. Kessler has to load up. You ingrates overrate these overseas abc 123 fighters.

Damn terrrible analysis, Kessler is an A class fighter. Taylor is not even in Kesslers class. Kessler is a complete fighter. Taylor is not a complete fighter. If thety do fight Kessler outboxes him and knocks his ass the fuckout!

[sherbert]

Joking? No. Hardly. JC can't punch his way out of a paperbag. Lacy has zero head movement and is so muscle bound he can barely move his upper body and Joe hit him with about a thousand punches and never came close to stopping Lacy. Taylor hits friggin' twice as hard as JC. Joe can't punch with power. That is the weakest point of his game. Joe wouldn't KO Spinks or Ouma EITHER. Of course, if the fight was held at home I'm certain he has a chance of a technical stoppage being as HIS refs are all looking to stop fights prematurely to protect him.

Calzaghe would stop Ouma.

[RealIzm]

I picked Taylor...based on Jermains performance last nite and Kesslers performance vs. calzaghe.....easy pick

[Bslice]

I put in a pity vote for JT

[pauliemayweathe]

Pavlik can knock Taylor out by accumulation at 160, but Kessler (who does every single thing better than Pavlik) can't at 168? "Kessler cant or does not like to take shots"? He won't be taking barely any shots that the very perdictable Taylor throws. Kessler would knock Taylor out in the first half of the fight, easily.

kessler does not have pavlik's power and he doesn't have a better jab and he doesn't have a better chin

[RealIzm]

Calzaghe would stop Ouma.Yea your right the all powerful Joe Calzaghe can do anything..leap tall buildings in a single bound....but rest assured Joe isn't stopping anybody, he'll slap his way to victory :deal

[pauliemayweathe]

At least Kessler would have to adapt to getting hit twice as hard by Taylor than the slapper. It would be a close fight.


Funny I could have sworn kessler was hurt badadmittedly by calzaghe for all the JC haters who says all he does is slap

[pauliemayweathe]

I picked Taylor...based on Jermains performance last nite and Kesslers performance vs. calzaghe.....easy pick

I agree taylor by un dec

[brooklyn1550]

kessler does not have pavlik's power and he doesn't have a better jab and he doesn't have a better chin

In terms of one-punch, he probably hits nearly as hard. But the difference is his accuracy, timing, speed, and snap are all superior to Pavlik's, or Taylor's for that matter. He easily has the better jab and has a better chin.

Kessler STOPS both Pavlik and Taylor

[RealIzm]

kessler does not have pavlik's power and he doesn't have a better jab and he doesn't have a better chinwell mate you may be new here but you'll get alot of the following:
Hyping of Joes previous castaways no matter how average or horrible they may be...see this (they think) gives Joe more credibility...
This hyping wouldnt be necessary if Joe fought more than 2 good fighters in 10 years....But hey what else do brits have to cling onto?? Hatton who's a wrestler, and Calzaghe who's a slapper:deal The only one who has it right is David Haye...interestingly enough he's the least popular of the 3....It gives you an idea of the boxing fans mentality over there in britian:"If you hype a cabdriver we'll stand by him to the end" abit sad really:-(

[RUSKULL]

Kessler has a better jab than Pavlik or Taylor.

Which, in part, is why I think he'd KO both Pavlik & Taylor.

[RealIzm]

Kessler has a better jab than Pavlik or Taylor.

Which, in part, is why I think he'd KO both Pavlik & Taylor.Negative.....weak jab and Kesslers not knocking anyone out but maybe Markus Beyer again..:patsch

[See Me Flow]

Wasn't Kessler supposed to be at the fight last night?

[RUSKULL]

Negative.....weak jab and Kesslers not knocking anyone out but maybe Markus Beyer again..:patsch

Mikkel has a better jabbing technique than either of them.

[FRKO]

Joking? No. Hardly. JC can't punch his way out of a paperbag.
Listen man, no disrespect to you, but it looks like you've been reading posts by fools who have no clue as to what constitutes a great boxer, and there are plenty of fools on here. Maybe somewhere along the way you became slightly brainwashed by the endless shit talk, but the fact is, Calzaghe can punch a hell of a lot harder than you think. The reason he doesn't throw super heavy shots constantly is because, if he did, he'd break his fucking hands. Joe more than makes up for this in other areas and all-round boxing ability. The guy is a seriously smart fighter. I can only come to the conclusion that you have a problem recognizing talent. What makes it so hard for some people to see it?

Every time someone talks crap about Joe (or any great boxer, come to think of it) I am semi-reluctant to answer back because usually 400 rampant, testosterone-filled teenage baboons jump on me and call me a "nuthugger", but honestly this shit needs straightening out. Read: You pub brawler types need to do your homework when it comes to the sweet science of boxing.

Up until Joe started to damage his hands, he was knocking out plenty of his opponents. So far, he's had more than 120 amateur fights and 44 professional fights. 32 of those pro fights have ended in KO or TKO. It's pretty obvious that if "he couldn't punch himself out of a paper bag" he would have an embarrassing KO record. Which he doesn't. Go get your Microsoft calculator and work out the KO percentage yourself. It's not a bad record by any means, especially considering his hand injuries.

One of his tougher fights was against Robin reid who caught him with quite a few hard right hands. Joe damaged his hand in this fight but still managed to pull out a UD. He was also recovering from food poisoning. He walked through those heavy bombs from Reid and barely even flinched. To suggest his chin is made of iron wouldn't be an understatement. Not that you did, but I like to point out of his many great qualities which make up his all-round genius in the ring.

Before the fight with Lacy, Jeff said "If you look at his fights, wouldn't you call him a slapper?". Two years later, and Lacy still hasn't recovered from the injuries and mental trauma sustained during his heavily one-sided loss to Joe. It's not inaccurate to say he ruined Jeff's career, as he hasn't been the same since.

Here's a picture to remind you:

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That's Jeff, bleeding from both eyes, nose and lips, of course, all damage caused by slaps to the face.

When he needs to turn it on, believe me, Calzaghe can bang. This was proven in the fight against Byron Mitchell (previously unbeaten and never knocked down until he met Joe), when Mitchell knocked him down in the second round. That was Joe's first knock down, too. If I remember correctly, Joe was up by the count of 3 and proceeded to KO Mitchell in the same round.

It's worth mentioning he also knocked down Chris Eubank in the first round. Some may argue that Eubank was too old. That's bullshit. Chris was only 31 and continued to fight for a while. One notable opponent happened to be a cruiserweight.

Quote from Eubank: "Joe is the proper article, a true warrior."

I agree with Chris.

11 of Joe's 44 professional fights have ended in first round. 7 of those 44 fights ended in the 2nd round. Only 11 of the 44 fights have gone the full 12 rounds.

Quote from Barry McGuigan: "He punches ferociously, moves superbly and has the best of the European technique and US aggression."

I agree with Barry.

I could also go on, but I think you get where I'm coming from by now. Do you honestly believe this man cannot punch his way out of a paper bag? And how long do you think you yourself would last in the ring with Joe Calzaghe?

[bestdefense117]

Kessler will do to Taylor what Pavlik did to Taylor twice. Kessler is more or less an inflated version of Pavlik and can't see Taylor winning.

[FRKO]

well mate you may be new here but you'll get alot of the following:
Hyping of Joes previous castaways no matter how average or horrible they may be...see this (they think) gives Joe more credibility...
This hyping wouldnt be necessary if Joe fought more than 2 good fighters in 10 years....But hey what else do brits have to cling onto?? Hatton who's a wrestler, and Calzaghe who's a slapper:deal The only one who has it right is David Haye...interestingly enough he's the least popular of the 3....It gives you an idea of the boxing fans mentality over there in britian:"If you hype a cabdriver we'll stand by him to the end" abit sad really:-(
Barely anyone here knows who David Haye is because he's still coming up. Calzaghe and Hatton have been around for a long time already and they are well established. You speak as though we ignore Haye. This is completely untrue. Once Haye establishes himself he will get the respect and recognition from the British public.

What else do the Brits have to cling on to? Well, Lennox Lewis, for one. There have been many great British fighters, only you don't realize this. I believe we currently have 7 world champions.