Which Fighters Seemed to Be Anothers...

[Russell]

Kryptonite, as in they seemingly had the other guys number, regardless of the circumstances... And they could do things to said fighter that no one else could.

Foreman/Frazier?

Mosely/Wright?

Hoya/Mosley?

McClellan/Jackson?

[janitor]

Young Corbett/Terry McGovern

[Russell]

Story behind that one?

[daredevil1989]

norton/ali

[Russell]

Tarver seemed to have Jones number.

[AREA 53]

At the moment or course Pavlik seems to have Taylors Number

Going Back Sanchez vs Lopez

There will be many situations whereby a fighter has gone 2-0 up against another fighter, Ali Vs Quarry, Frazier vs Quarry Liston vs Patterson ect ect.

[McGrain]

Cocoa Kid, he had Holman Williams number for sure.

Charles had Moore's number, unquestionably.

[janitor]

Story behind that one?

Sort of like Tyson Holyfield.

Young Corbett was not afraid of McGovern and was prepared to use his own tactics against him, going to the inside while everybody else just tried to get the hell away from him.

Corbett showed no respect for McGovern before the fight. He hammered on his dressingroom wall shouting "Come and get your beating you Irish Rat". McGovern like Tyson used his oponents fear as a first like of defence.

McGovern just got taken to a place he had never been before and drowned.

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[mr. magoo]

Iran Barkley was Thomas Hearn's Cryptonite.

[Holmes' Jab]

Sort of like Tyson Holyfield.

Young Corbett was not afraid of McGovern and was prepared to use his own tactics against him, going to the inside while everybody else just tried to get the hell away from him.

Corbett showed no respect for McGovern before the fight. He hammered on his dressingroom wall shouting "Come and get your beating you Irish Rat". McGovern like Tyson used his oponents fear as a first like of defence.

McGovern just got taken to a place he had never been before and drowned.

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A largely intriguing and valid pick, mate. Good stuff- I really enjoyed reading the article.

My initial choice upon seeing this thread was Holy/Tyson. Other than that probably Clay/Liston (it's no mean feat at all to frustrate and make Liston quit as least once). :good

[SgrRyLeonard]

Thomas Hearns/Roberto Duran.
Carlos Monzon/Rodrigo Valdez
James Jeffries/Bob Fitszimmons

[mcvey]

Willie Meehan Jack Dempsey
Ike Williams Beau Jack

[Pat_Lowe]

Iran Barkley was Thomas Hearn's Cryptonite.

Arguable. Did Barkley really prove he could beat Hearns every time? The first fight he was being dismantled before landing that big shot, the second fight was a close win over an old faded Hearns. IMO he wasn't Hearns kryptonite.

To answer the thread, Vernon Forrest would always beat Shane Mosley. He was 2-0 against him in the amatuers I believe and 2-0 against him in the pro ranks.

[TBooze]

Barrera/Naseem

Jones/Laing

Starling/Honeyghan

[Rock0052]

Liston-Patterson

[Sweet Pea]

Tarver seemed to have Jones number.In the same way that Pazienza had Duran's number.

[Pat_Lowe]

In the same way that Pazienza had Duran's number.

Comparing a 45 year old Duran who's prime ended 15 years earlier to Roy Jones who was just coming off possibly his best performance (winning a portion of the heavyweight title by near shutout) is ludicrous. Jones may not have been at his peak but he was not shot at all.

Also for the record Tarver did not have Jones' number, he didn't exactly prove himself much better in the ring. He lost the first fight, knocked him out in the return, then struggled to beat him in the 3rd fight where they both looked utterly shit.

[red cobra]

In the same way that Pazienza had Duran's number.
Great analogy, I must say.

[Sweet Pea]

Comparing a 45 year old Duran who's prime ended 15 years earlier to Roy Jones who was just coming off possibly his best performance (winning a portion of the heavyweight title by near shutout) is ludicrous. Jones may not have been at his peak but he was not shot at all.

He had one of the biggest wins of his career against Ruiz, and did so very impressively, but that was not Jones at the peak of his powers, no matter what the performance suggested against a tailor made opponent. He had been on the slight decline since about 2001 or 2002, that was his last great performance. His aging was sped up greatly by draining from HW back to LHW at the advanced age that he was(speedy boxers age quickest), and it showed greatly even in the first Tarver fight that he won. If you say otherwise, then that is, in fact, ludicrous.

He was clearly a shot fighter by the Johnson fight, and clearly falling apart during the Tarver trilogy, the first fight showing that clearly enough. Struggling badly with a fighter(and showing lesser physical ability than years in past) he'd have starched or shut out a few years earlier should show that a man is on the decline in a dramatic way.

So I may have been exagerrating when I compared it to Duran/{azienza, but I was merely ipointing out that a shot/faded fighter losing to an opponent in his prime doesn't exactly make the opponent the foil.

[istmeno]

frankie randall/ jcc

randall beat him clearly in the first fight, and was on his way to another win in the second imo if not for that dubious technical decision where chavez said he could not continue.

[Russell]

In the same way that Pazienza had Duran's number.

Even if the comparison was true, I was asking the question in a general sense.

[RafaelGonzal]

Hearns - Iran the blade
Barrera- Junior Jones

[red cobra]

Fighting Harada seemed to have Eder Jofre's number.

[red cobra]

frankie randall/ jcc

randall beat him clearly in the first fight, and was on his way to another win in the second imo if not for that dubious technical decision where chavez said he could not continue.
Yeah, Frankie Randall really got screwed the second time against Chavez. This is one of the reasons I have a hard time worshipping Chavez like a lot of you guys do. First, it was the Taylor fight, with Meldrick 3 seconds away from victory, and that bullshit stoppage, then it was the draw after getting spanked by the Pea, then it was this outrageous crap the second time with Randall. Frankie Randall should have been awarded a tko victory when Chavez refused to continue, or at the very least, a tecnical decision. That's why, in recent posts, I've maintained that guys like Carlos Ortiz and Ken Buchanan would have beaten Chavez at his peak.

[jupzrooni]

pacquiao - barrera

mayorga - forrest

[laxpdx]

Mayorga-Forrest
Hearns-Cuevas and Duran
Forrest-Mosley
Ali-Foreman
Ruelas-Leija
Leija-Nelson
Nelson-Ruelas

[Sardu]

Ruben Olivares vs. Bobby Chacon

Yes, I know Bobby finally beat 'Rockaby Ruben' by decision in 1977. But Olivares torched Chacon in 2 rounds in 1975 and kayoed him in 9 rounds in 1973. I was a big Chacon fan but admit that the Mexican great basically had his number. By 77' Ruben's partying and accumulation of fights had taken its toll. He did knockout a young up and coming Jose Luis Ramirez and in his very next fight the tough Shig Furuyama so I guess he wasn't totally finished.

[jupzrooni]

i'll also add corrales - casamayor

[Sonny's jab]

Liston-Patterson

I agree.
I dont see a way for Patterson to win this.