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Kevin Blackistone used his 30 second face time on Around the Horn today to talk about Kelly Pavlik. He was stating how good it is for boxing to have a bright new champ who is humble and well mannered. I agree completely and think that Kelly Pavlik is the best thing that boxing has to offer to the masses out of any other fighter. Thoughts?
BewareofDawg
02-19-2008, 05:35 PM
War Pavlik!!!!
pipe wrenched
02-19-2008, 05:40 PM
I agree. Pav is the man.
pipe wrenched
02-19-2008, 05:41 PM
Will they re-air this?
Will they re-air this?
Not sure but I am almost positive you could find it on Espn.com
BewareofDawg
02-19-2008, 05:45 PM
War Pavlik!!!
blank
02-19-2008, 05:58 PM
I'm a huge fan of Pavlik and his relationship with Jack Lowe is really a beautiful thing. They just keep it fucking real. There was a point in between rounds of the rematch with Taylor where he tells Kelly to be more active and not stand in front of him. Kelly looked at him and calmy asked, "Did he win that round too?" And Jack, just straight up said "Yeah." And there wasn't an ounce of panic between them, just absolute understanding that he needed to change things up in oreder to regain control of the fight. And that's exactly what he did. That real honesty and trust is very rare in today's world of boxing.
It's great to see such good, gritty guys make it.
drunkenspaniard
02-19-2008, 06:03 PM
I don't understand... I mean I like Pavlik (Hell, I'm from Ohio), but they make it sound as though Taylor was some sort of major douche bag who talked shit all the time. His performances may have been subpar recently, but he was always a well mannered individual.
thanosone
02-19-2008, 06:03 PM
Kevin Blackistone used his 30 second face time on Around the Horn today to talk about Kelly Pavlik. He was stating how good it is for boxing to have a bright new champ who is humble and well mannered. I agree completely and think that Kelly Pavlik is the best thing that boxing has to offer to the masses out of any other fighter. Thoughts?
Pavlik is a perfect example of a true Champ. Not like fucking prima donnas of the past and present.
I'm a huge fan of Pavlik and his relationship with Jack Lowe is really a beautiful thing. They just keep it fucking real. There was a point in between round of the rematch with Taylor where he tells Kelly to be more active and stand in front of him. Kelly looked at him and calmy asked, "Did he win that round too?" And Jack, just straight up said "Yeah." And there wasn't an ounce of panic between them, just absolute understanding that he needed to change things up in oreder to regain control of the fight. And that's exactly what he did. That real honesty and trust is very rare in today's world of boxing.
It's great to see such good, gritty guys make it.
I agree well said, I have heard people say that Kelly needs to get a bigger name trainer because Jack Lowe simply doesn't have the credentials to be a lasting championship trainer. I think this would be crazy, those guys mesh so well together and they are definetly on the same page. If it ain't borken then please don't fix it.
I don't understand... I mean I like Pavlik (Hell, I'm from Ohio), but they make it sound as though Taylor was some sort of major douche bag who talked shit all the time. His performances may have been subpar recently, but he was always a well mannered individual.
Yes i was never really a Taylor fan until the Pavlik fights. He seems to be a stand up guy and from now on I will root for his success.
startown81
02-19-2008, 06:13 PM
Yes i was never really a Taylor fan until the Pavlik fights. He seems to be a stand up guy and from now on I will root for his success.
Agreed. Taylor is a class act even in defeat.
superchile
02-19-2008, 06:41 PM
yes indeed his figting best figthers in his division if there was more figthers like that boxing would be prime time sport again
sues2nd
02-19-2008, 06:43 PM
???
:lol:
I was thinking the same thing....
:lol:
I was thinking the same thing....
maybe thats how he got so many posts!
Kevin Blackistone used his 30 second face time on Around the Horn today to talk about Kelly Pavlik. He was stating how good it is for boxing to have a bright new champ who is humble and well mannered. I agree completely and think that Kelly Pavlik is the best thing that boxing has to offer to the masses out of any other fighter. Thoughts?
Good to know I'm not the only one who watches Around the Horn.
FSTYLE
02-19-2008, 07:11 PM
I don't understand... I mean I like Pavlik (Hell, I'm from Ohio), but they make it sound as though Taylor was some sort of major douche bag who talked shit all the time. His performances may have been subpar recently, but he was always a well mannered individual.
Thank you.
Jermaine is a very likeable guy. Great for boxing. A complete gentleman.
And so is Kelly.
booradley
02-19-2008, 07:35 PM
Realistically we could not ask for better match making than Pavlik/Taylor. I think they will probably meet again one day, and even though JT is down by 2, we will all be just as excited as we were the last 2 times they met! However, for the time being I think they need to stay away from each other for a while, or they'll both be "walkin' on their heels" and suffering from pugilistic dimentia!! They seem to really bring out the best in each other, but to many wars and ya end up like Bobby Chacon.
Kelly is a class act, and I am proud to be an ardent fan. I was never a JT fan until Pav/JT I. However, from here on out I'll be rooting for JT, unless, of course, he's fighting Pavlik!
Boo
Farmboxer
02-19-2008, 07:38 PM
Pavlik is a very exciting fight indeed.
It's a shame Calzaghe was not able to be seen more earlier in his career, so many years wasted. He is getting older now, but it has not seemed to hurt him at all. Calzaghe also had some hand problems earlier in his career. I enjoy watching him fight.
Pavlik is a very exciting fight indeed.
It's a shame Calzaghe was not able to be seen more earlier in his career, so many years wasted. He is getting older now, but it has not seemed to hurt him at all. Calzaghe also had some hand problems earlier in his career. I enjoy watching him fight.
Yes, being an american I was only really exposed to his past 5 or 6 fights. It is a shame and I wish that I would have known more about JOe earlier
Farmboxer
02-19-2008, 09:12 PM
You can buy fights on DVD. I used to buy fights from Blood, Sweat & Tears. Americans are missing so many good fights dues to the USTV boycott. Instead, we get to see many very sick mismatches, sparring sessions which are very boring. An undefeated fighter Vs. a wino from an alley.
BOGART
02-19-2008, 09:31 PM
Pavlik is good for boxing and certainly has some momentum going. I actually heard an a.m talk show, and not a sports one, talking about the fight yesterday. They weren't the most knowledgeable bunch of boxing fans but they were following Pavik because he's from Ohio and said they would continue to do so.
He really needs to capitalize on his momentum though. Stay active, fight the best, and most importantly...remain exciting. So he can fight a Duddy, Trinidad,Mayorga, or some lesser opponent this summer but he has to seek out the real challenges after that. It would be a shame to see him lose this high he is riding.
Farmboxer
02-19-2008, 09:36 PM
Duddy can be exciting, but he will get knocked out by Pavlik. It's time we need to see exciting boxers on TV esp. So many fights are so boring, I esp. hate it when undercards on PPV are boring.
JETSKI
02-19-2008, 09:39 PM
Kevin Blackistone used his 30 second face time on Around the Horn today to talk about Kelly Pavlik. He was stating how good it is for boxing to have a bright new champ who is humble and well mannered. I agree completely and think that Kelly Pavlik is the best thing that boxing has to offer to the masses out of any other fighter. Thoughts?
I was watching & almost fell through the floor. Surprised to hear them discuss boxing at all, then I heard Pavlik mentioned, that really snapped me out of my nap!:lol:
It was good to hear him get some dap, & everything Blackistone was true & couldn't have been said any better.
JETSKI
02-19-2008, 09:42 PM
I'm a huge fan of Pavlik and his relationship with Jack Lowe is really a beautiful thing. They just keep it fucking real. There was a point in between rounds of the rematch with Taylor where he tells Kelly to be more active and not stand in front of him. Kelly looked at him and calmy asked, "Did he win that round too?" And Jack, just straight up said "Yeah." And there wasn't an ounce of panic between them, just absolute understanding that he needed to change things up in oreder to regain control of the fight. And that's exactly what he did. That real honesty and trust is very rare in today's world of boxing.
It's great to see such good, gritty guys make it.
Welcome aboard, bro!:good
I have to say, for a newbie, that was one hell of a post. Thank God your a Kelly Pavlik fan.
Farmboxer
02-19-2008, 09:42 PM
Even Hillary Clinton mentioned Pavlik in Ohio!
JETSKI
02-19-2008, 09:45 PM
Yes i was never really a Taylor fan until the Pavlik fights. He seems to be a stand up guy and from now on I will root for his success.
Good thread you have here.
Regarding your comment about rooting for Pavlik in the future, what happens if he & Joe meet up down the road?
:think
Bslice
02-19-2008, 09:57 PM
Pavs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Farmboxer
02-19-2008, 10:01 PM
I don't think Calzaghe and Pavlik will ever meet, esp. since Calzaghe is getting older and plans to stay at 175.
Good thread you have here.
Regarding your comment about rooting for Pavlik in the future, what happens if he & Joe meet up down the road?
:think
Wow thats a good question, and one that would be very hard for me. I never really let nationalities get in my way of choosing who to root for, but for those two fighters I would have to say that the one closest to home would get the nod, Pavlik. But I think it would be a great fight all the way, but if they fought within the next 2 years I would probably have to think Joe would take it by SD or maybe even UD.
What are your thoughts on a possible match-up? It's funny ESPN.com on its boxing section already has a poll out asking who would win haha. A bit pre-mature i think
Even Hillary Clinton mentioned Pavlik in Ohio!
Really what did she say?
sugarngold
02-19-2008, 10:04 PM
Kelly Pavlik has the goods to be the next great middleweight. It will be fun watching how his career plays out.
And - great post, Booradley. I agree completely.
Farmboxer
02-19-2008, 10:05 PM
And he should stay at 160lbs for as long as he can, he is still young.
[quote=Farmboxer]And he should stay at 160lbs for as long as he can, he is still young.[/]
Yeah he really should, his tall lanky frame suits him well at 160. He isn't too lanky that he can't handle body shots and yet he is long enough to have great extention and power. He will eventually be tempted by a big name to go to 168 but I agree for now he needs to stay.
JETSKI
02-19-2008, 10:21 PM
I don't think Calzaghe and Pavlik will ever meet, esp. since Calzaghe is getting older and plans to stay at 175.
I agree. Joe beats B Hop & that may be it for him.
Fishing time.
Farmboxer
02-19-2008, 10:23 PM
Yea. Pavlik is only 25 years old and time is still on his side. He can go up later. I am so glad to see someone so exciting.
RafaelGonzal
02-19-2008, 10:23 PM
lets say he makes good fights and they are exciting, of course he would be good for boxing. Hey! being humble and lowkey really dont have a thing to do with being an exciting fighter that people want to see.
The best fighters out there are all capable of doing the same thing. Its what you do in the ring that counts. He is good so far because he is willing to take the good fight and make it exciting. lets see how he does from now on.
JETSKI
02-19-2008, 10:28 PM
Wow thats a good question, and one that would be very hard for me. I never really let nationalities get in my way of choosing who to root for, but for those two fighters I would have to say that the one closest to home would get the nod, Pavlik. But I think it would be a great fight all the way, but if they fought within the next 2 years I would probably have to think Joe would take it by SD or maybe even UD.
What are your thoughts on a possible match-up? It's funny ESPN.com on its boxing section already has a poll out asking who would win haha. A bit pre-mature i think
54% KP
46% JC
lets say he makes good fights and they are exciting, of course he would be good for boxing. Hey! being humble and lowkey really dont have a thing to do with being an exciting fighter that people want to see.
The best fighters out there are all capable of doing the same thing. Its what you do in the ring that counts. He is good so far because he is willing to take the good fight and make it exciting. lets see how he does from now on.
I will choose to disagree with you on that. I think what a fighter does outside of the ring has loads to do with the popularity of the sport and how a champion is beloved by fans. I am from Kalamazoo Michigan about 45 minutes from Grand Rapids MI where Floyd is from. There are more Pavlik fans here by 10 fold than Pretty Boy.
When I say he is good for boxing, yes he is extremely exiting to watch and very entertaining. But he is also good for the sport by providing a role model for young boxers to look up to. Most parents wouldn't want their kids falling in love with mike tyson and wanting to be like him. But if i was a parent and my kid liked Pavlik I would have no problem with them wanting to model their sportsmanship after him.
Farmboxer
02-19-2008, 10:30 PM
Pavlik's personality is good for boxing, he is down to earth and does not run his mouth, really nice for a change. I like the fact that he respects the fans enough to work so very hard in training and in his fights.
JETSKI
02-19-2008, 10:30 PM
I will choose to disagree with you on that. I think what a fighter does outside of the ring has loads to do with the popularity of the sport and how a champion is beloved by fans. I am from Kalamazoo Michigan about 45 minutes from Grand Rapids MI where Floyd is from. There are more Pavlik fans here by 10 fold than Pretty Boy.
When I say he is good for boxing, yes he is extremely exiting to watch and very entertaining. But he is also good for the sport by providing a role model for young boxers to look up to. Most parents wouldn't want their kids falling in love with mike tyson and wanting to be like him. But if i was a parent and my kid liked Pavlik I would have no problem with them wanting to model their sportsmanship after him.
:bowdown
Farmboxer
02-19-2008, 10:32 PM
Wish we had more fighters like him.
Wish we had more fighters like him.
me too
Hermit
02-19-2008, 10:48 PM
Most parents wouldn't want their kids falling in love with mike tyson and wanting to be like him.
Yeah. Mike gave the 'hungry fighter' a whole new meaning.
Yeah. Mike gave the 'hungry fighter' a whole new meaning.
that he did, even if his hunger included human ears
Mindspring
02-19-2008, 10:53 PM
I'm becoming less impressed, he had a draw with JT and was very guarded in this fight. He's lost his swagger since he settled for the decision.
He's a very good fighter, not great.
Farmboxer
02-19-2008, 10:54 PM
I had Hopkins beating him. Winky also.
I'm becoming less impressed, he had a draw with JT and was very guarded in this fight. He's lost his swagger since he settled for the decision.
He's a very good fighter, not great.
I'm not so sure he settled for the decision as much as Jermaine wouldn't let allow himself to be knocked out!
pipe wrenched
02-20-2008, 12:32 AM
Great thread and great posts Rilz. Good stuff. Pav is the man.
Great thread and great posts Rilz. Good stuff. Pav is the man.
thanks!
Farmboxer
02-20-2008, 02:03 AM
That body shot sure got Taylor's attention!
I hope Pavlik simply keeps it up.
That body shot sure got Taylor's attention!
I hope Pavlik simply keeps it up.
yea it can get very easy for a young champion to let success go to his head and start relaxing in the gym. I think he has a good enough head on his shoulders to keep focus
Farmboxer
02-20-2008, 02:18 AM
Yes, and he has stayed down to earth in spite of his recent success. I like that in a boxer.
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