W. Klitschko considering Sanders rematch

[kaptnK]

According to the current headline on the front page of this site, Klitschko is planning on trying to avenge his loss to Corrie Sanders.

I have nothing against Wlad, I think he's a great fighter, but picking fights like this just makes him look plain bad. First he "avenges" his loss to Brewster, whos been out of action quite a while, and Wlad was his first fight back. Now he wants to take a shot at Sanders, who also has had a long break, and declined a bit since their first fight. Talk about taking advantage of the situation.

I realize there isnt the best selection of fighters to pick from in the HW division, but I am sure he can do better then this... This is just making me lose respect for the guy. :bart

[DaHead242]

theres no point, thats a clear step down in terms of where he wants to be as a fighter. Sanders is working on getting his AARP not a championship belt, leave the old man alone.

[ryanty22]

id love to see W.K. in the ring with oliver mccall. that would be pretty damn interesting with mccalls power and his awesome chin. of course that would be if mccall was mentally all there

[Heavyrighthand]

According to the current headline on the front page of this site, Klitschko is planning on trying to avenge his loss to Corrie Sanders.

I have nothing against Wlad, I think he's a great fighter, but picking fights like this just makes him look plain bad. First he "avenges" his loss to Brewster, whos been out of action quite a while, and Wlad was his first fight back. Now he wants to take a shot at Sanders, who also has had a long break, and declined a bit since their first fight. Talk about taking advantage of the situation.

I realize there isnt the best selection of fighters to pick from in the HW division, but I am sure he can do better then this... This is just making me lose respect for the guy. :bart

Sanders fought not long ago, and has been on a comeback in which he's been calling Klit out.

So Sanders is not the best choice, no,but look at who else is out there. See what I mean? Sanders is the only decent fight to be made, aside from Virchis.

I applaud Wlad if he fights Sanders. Sanders is a good choice of the lot that is available. Certianly.

[thewoo]

As far as I am concerned all teh heavyweights are garbage. If Wlad can't get an immidiate fight with another belt holder and needs a stay busy fight, I don't see a problem with this as long as he first exhausts all options for any type of unification fight.

[BigReg]

Is he going to fight Ross Purity after Sanders? This Wlad Klitscho revenge tour is pathetic.

[Heavyrighthand]

Is he going to fight Ross Purity after Sanders? This Wlad Klitscho revenge tour is pathetic.

Not long ago he was being heavily criticized for not avenging any losses, now he IS criticized for avenging the first loss, and now wanting to avenge the second.

The man canNOT please some people, no matter what he does.

[Sakura]

Is he going to fight Ross Purity after Sanders? This Wlad Klitscho revenge tour is pathetic.

Agree..old fighters are old fighters. He should move on..

[Mendoza]

How about Sanders vs Purity II, with the winner getting Wlad? I get a kick out of these negative fans hyping Wlad’s opponent up, only to tear him down the moment after Kltischo’s fists do the talking in the ring. Before it was Wlad doesn’t avenge his losses. Now its Wlad should leave the two others who beat him alone. Classic flip flopping.

[kaptnK]

Sanders fought not long ago, and has been on a comeback in which he's been calling Klit out.

So Sanders is not the best choice, no,but look at who else is out there. See what I mean? Sanders is the only decent fight to be made, aside from Virchis.

I applaud Wlad if he fights Sanders. Sanders is a good choice of the lot that is available. Certianly.

While you are right in that there arent many options for a fight out there, I dont think this fight would be very competitive. I havent seen Sanders since his return, the man is 41 years old now, and I'm sure its not the same Sanders who fought Wlad a couple years ago. Not to mention I think Wladimir's skill and expierience has increased since then.

I guess if no other fights can be made, and as mentioned Wlad is just looking to stay active then I guess why not. But he has just won a bout this past Saturday. I dont think he put in all the effort he can into looking for a more worthy opponent, perhaps some of the names thrown around in this thread.

IMO Wladimir wouldnt prove much beating an old and declined Sanders, thats all. It would just make him look like hes trying to exploit his past conquerers age, or inactivity.

Other then that I like Wladimir, and I suppose it isnt his fault for small number of options in the HW division at the moment.

[Heavyrighthand]

While you are right in that there arent many options for a fight out there, I dont think this fight would be very competitive. I havent seen Sanders since his return, the man is 41 years old now, and I'm sure its not the same Sanders who fought Wlad a couple years ago. Not to mention I think Wladimir's skill and expierience has increased since then.

I guess if no other fights can be made, and as mentioned Wlad is just looking to stay active then I guess why not. But he has just won a bout this past Saturday. I dont think he put in all the effort he can into looking for a more worthy opponent, perhaps some of the names thrown around in this thread.

IMO Wladimir wouldnt prove much beating an old and declined Sanders, thats all. It would just make him look like hes trying to exploit his past conquerers age, or inactivity.

Other then that I like Wladimir, and I suppose it isnt his fault for small number of options in the HW division at the moment.

:good

[Stinky gloves]

cory is not the best choice. sanders will get absolutely battered and won't even manage to be competitive. wlad should take on a virchis, povetkin, ruiz, valuev etc... why not andrew golota(poland vs ukraine, that will draw for sure).

Virchis and Povertkin are not at the level to fight for the title yet,
they need beat some recognized gatekeepr and journeyman with name.
Ruiz need to redem himself fighting Tua. McCall is setting up his chances
against WBC where he is next mandatory after Vitaly.

Golota and Sanders need at least one more fight with top #30 to prove
they are back into the mix.Valuev is good choice as well Holyfield.

[mykolakozak]

One, there is no one out there to give Wlad a good competition, other than Vitali, and we all know that's never going to happen.

Two, all this hype about unifying the belts is bullshit. Chagaev, Ibragimov, Maskaev are all great boxers, but garbage boxers if Klitschko is considered. I dont need to see Klitschko have two or more Pimped-out belts in his hands for a light to go of on top of my head to tell me that Klitschko is a great boxer. I knew that for a while now. There is nobody at the moment for Klitschko to fight.

Three, he cannot sit and wait.

Four, he might as well knock the hell out of that golfer Saunders who is neither a boxer, nor a fighter, just a man with a Juggernaut hand. Saunders landed, Klitschko fell. That doesnt make Saunders something exceptional, neither does it make Klitschko look bad.

Five, its up to the boxers to decide who they want to fight. They both want it badly, let them both have it. I will watch it because I have HBO. And I will enjoy it. Obviously I would love to see Klitschko fight someone stronger, but there really aint anyone than maybe Virchis, but he too needs to have a top ten test.

[southpaw1974]

Wlad also mentioned that if the Sanders fight can't be made, he'd like to face the nasty cold that he fought last winter.

[BigReg]

Not long ago he was being heavily criticized for not avenging any losses, now he IS criticized for avenging the first loss, and now wanting to avenge the second.

The man canNOT please some people, no matter what he does.

Brewster was acutally his third loss and Sanders was his second. I think Wlad is the top heavyweight out there. The top heavyweight shouldn't be fighting 41 year old, way past their prime, part-time professional golfing bums. I would've been impressed if Wlad would have fought Sanders relatively soon after the first fight. Instead, he let his brother do his dirty work for him and now he wants revenge against the guy 4 years later when the guys skills have seriously eroded. Maybe Golota should get revenge against a half retarted Bowe. I bet you would be excited about that too. If you wanna see your boy Wlad beat up on washed up fighters then that's your problem. Don't get on me becasue I want to see him challenge himself.

[andyZOR]

He did avenge his loss to Brewster. But this match with Sanders is stupid. Hes old. He has no chance. I love Sanders...no doubt tho he would lose to Wlad at this point.

[achillesthegreat]

Can everyone just shut up. The man is trying to forge a legacy for himself. History will look at him much more favourably if he is avenging a loss rather than just putting a random contender on his record.

Ibrag and Chagaev are busy with each other. Peter and Maskaev are busy with each other.

The best thing for Wlad is to deal with Sanders while he has an optional defence.

Sanders has fought recently and is coming off three wins. This is the best time to do it. Sanders is the only man who can really say I whooped Wlad from top to bottom. No fluke, no excuses, no pummelling before coming back. He just straight sparked him with speed, power, mulitple kds, you name it.

Props to Wlad. Now is the time to forge a legacy. He is in his 30s and realises he is making his last dash for the finish line. More power to him I say. I like this Wlad. He fights well, has great advice from Steward and knows what he needs to do.

[Rawdawg]

It's easy to be a Wlad hater, whatever he choses to do is wrong. I think a Sanders rematch is far more interesting than the Brewster rematch could ever have been becuase Sanders destroyed Wlad so easily and quickly. Whereas, Brewster got thumped in his first fight for 4 rounds until the "poison" kicked in. If Sanders got another crack at Wlad that "what if" factor is tempting.

[shelterr]

He might as well fight Sanders. There's no incentive to fight anyone else at this moment.

Everyone in the heavyweight division is either coming off a loss:
Lyakhovich
Briggs
Ruiz
Golota
Toney
Valuev
Rahman (if you don't count his recent shit showing against Taurus Skyes)

Too Young and Unexperienced:
Povetkin
Virchis
Dimentrinko
Chambers
Arreola
Platov

Involved in Title Fights or Eliminators:
Peter
Masaev
McCall
Thompson
Krasniqi
Chagaev
Ibragamov

Or Been Beaten thouroughly by Klitschko already:
Byrd
TOS
Brock
Brewster

If you use the Boxrec top 20 HW list (which isnt perfect but still pretty reflective of the HW division at this point) this leaves Michael Sprott and Danny Williams, who combine for 5 losses in their last 10 fights.

This leaves TWO reasonalbe options for Wlad as I see it.
Holyfield- Good Money Maker but a one-sided beat down for sure.
Sanders- He may be old but he still has fast hands and power and it only takes one punch.

He may as well go ahead and avenge the Sanders loss while waiting for the other top fighters to take care of their business.

[achillesthegreat]

Be fair, Sanders for a long time has been a bright spark that fizzles out. Two good rounds then he is done. Sanders potential died a LONG time ago. Way before he beat Wlad and Vitali. In fact it appears Sanders has become tougher and even more dangerous as time has gone on.

[Heavyrighthand]

Obviously I would love to see Klitschko fight someone stronger, but there really aint anyone than maybe Virchis, but he too needs to have a top ten test.

:good

[Heavyrighthand]

. Instead, he let his brother do his dirty work for him and now he wants revenge against the guy 4 years later when the guys skills have seriously eroded.

Where do you get that Sanders has seriously eroded? He is apparently still very fast, and beat his last opponent with one hand being broken in the first round. Pounded the guy with a broken hand for 9 rounds.

Sure, he's older now, but that don't necessarily mean his skills are seriously eroded.

[Hawks28]

this has to be a joke. what a waste of time that fight would be. Isnt Vlad always talking anout unification with the other HW champs? although I acknowledge it is not easy to put those fights together. But this bullshit fight? beating an old diminished Sanders does nothin for Vlad. Hopefully him and his handlers will come to their senses and find a better fight than this.

[Feiti]

I don´t really think Sanders is worth it. He´s too old and out of shape at this point. Having said that, I still won´t complain if Wlad wants to fight Sanders as a keep busy tuneup fight and Sanders is mad enough to comply.

I actually think Wlad has a lot of other possibilities for his next fight, depending on who is willing to fight him.

1) Karsniqi-Thompson winner - wouldn´t WBO mandatory rather have a shot at a belt now, rather than wait for the winner of Ibragimov-Chagaev?

2) Rahman - a good name if nothing else and former champion

3) Ruiz - see Rahman + had a close fight with Chagaev recently

4) McCall - why wouldn´t McCall take a shot at Wlad now instead of waiting around for the WBC situation to clear?

5) Holyfield - pretty old and washed up, but still a legendary name on a good streak

6) Lyakhovich - recently held WBO belt, beat Brewster
7) Briggs - recently held WBO belt, called out Wlad all the time
8) Alexander Dimitrenko - if he´s ready for it
9) Vladimir Virchis - if he´s ready for it
10) Matt Skelton - a decent keep busy opponent with wins over Williams and Harrison
11) Davarryl Williamson - rematch, since he KD Wlad before
12) Juan Carlos Gomez - although Wlad should rather fight him in Germany for the money

Note that I would like to see him fight Valuev the most, just don´t see why Valuev would risk it.

[maciek4]

Brewster was a good choice as he is still only 33 years old and despite losing to Liachovic, performed very well in his recent fights. Sanders is a different story thought. I dont think he will fight Sanders though, I think he will fight either Valuev or Ibragimov/Chagaev winner.

[Irish Steel]

A rematch with peter would be great. IF he wins, then he will recieve the ring belt.

[Bummy Davis]

Vlad wanted a rematch vs Sanders and he should be able to rectify, but Sanders is fast and always dangerous for at least 5 rounds, then if Vlad wins there is the rematch with Purity

[Gabriel R.]

I believe that Klitschko is really looking for the best opponents. In my view that would currently be one of the other title holders or Samuel Peter. All those fighters already have another fight in front of them. So who else would be a good opponent for Klitschko?

I think it's too late for a Sanders rematch, insofar as Klitschko couldn't really avenge his loss by winning the second fight. Because the first fight is just too long ago and Sanders is too old now. A succesful rematch for Klitschko would only on paper be an avenged loss. However, that wouldn't make the rematch a mismatch. Actually, it could be an exciting fight as I expect Sanders to seize his chance and to have kept the qualities that Klitschko couldn't deal with in the first encounter.

Maybe the winner of Krasniqi vs. Thompson might be a good opponent. But that fight is a WBO eliminator, so the winner will possibly not agree to fight Klitschko.

Who else is there? J.C. Gomez... Well, I don't know...

[RUSKULL]

According to the current headline on the front page of this site, Klitschko is planning on trying to avenge his loss to Corrie Sanders.

I have nothing against Wlad, I think he's a great fighter, but picking fights like this just makes him look plain bad. First he "avenges" his loss to Brewster, whos been out of action quite a while, and Wlad was his first fight back. Now he wants to take a shot at Sanders, who also has had a long break, and declined a bit since their first fight. Talk about taking advantage of the situation.

I realize there isnt the best selection of fighters to pick from in the HW division, but I am sure he can do better then this... This is just making me lose respect for the guy. :bart

Sounds like you didn't have much respect for Wlad to begin with. Let me guess, it his fans right? You really don't have anything against WK as a fighter :rofl

Anyway, WK had tried to get Brewster for a rematch much earlier, in fact I believe he wanted an immediate rematch but Lamon declined citing the accusations of Brewster's victory being tainted by some sinister act. Of course Lamon wanted the more challenging fights like Meehan, who shouldve gotten the decision but never deserved the shot in the first place. Or maybe that idiot in your avatar, Golota. We saw how well that fight went. :patsch

[RUSKULL]

Sanders fought not long ago, and has been on a comeback in which he's been calling Klit out.

So Sanders is not the best choice, no,but look at who else is out there. See what I mean? Sanders is the only decent fight to be made, aside from Virchis.

I applaud Wlad if he fights Sanders. Sanders is a good choice of the lot that is available. Certianly.

I agree but Sanders isn't a walkover for anyone since one of the last things to go when fighters age is their power and Corrie had plenty.

[RUSKULL]

As far as I am concerned all teh heavyweights are garbage. If Wlad can't get an immidiate fight with another belt holder and needs a stay busy fight, I don't see a problem with this as long as he first exhausts all options for any type of unification fight.

My opinion exactly. Unification first, if not, then avenge a defeat. Better late than never.

Corrie has been calling Wlad out & he has 2 recent, decent wins............

[RAMPAGE0017]

If Wladimir has nothing better to do at the moment, I guess it couldn't hurt. I mean.. it won't do much, but it won't hurt much, either.

[RUSKULL]

Not long ago he was being heavily criticized for not avenging any losses, now he IS criticized for avenging the first loss, and now wanting to avenge the second.

The man canNOT please some people, no matter what he does.

:good

Power is one of the last things to go when a fighter gets old, he's still got some good handspeed too. He hasn't lost that southpaw stance has he? I think he's dangerous for any of the HW's today, at least for a few rounds.

[chewy 22]

i'd rather slice an apple in half an watch it turn brown than watch this fight

[RUSKULL]

i'd rather slice an apple in half an watch it turn brown than watch this fight

That's okay, I'll watch it for you & tell you all about it. :good

[RUSKULL]

A rematch with peter would be great. IF he wins, then he will recieve the ring belt.

Peter is slated to fight for Maskaev's belt and the immediate mandatory is Vitali Klitschko, assuming he beats McCline.

Where have you been?

[barneyrub]

if he had fought these guys at the time, 3 or 4 years ago before they retired as in Sanders case who has also been beat up by his big brother and softened up since their fight!
In brewsters case, a guy who suffered a severe eye injury in his last fight [a loss] over a year ago, which clearly was the reason the trainer told lamon after the 2nd round he wasnt going to let him get hit tonight. A guy that was physically and psychologically in no condition to fight.

What a waste of time, its meant to be a world title he is defending! Whats next, will he be digging up ross purritty?

Too late, completely meaningless.

He needs to beat ibragamov/chagaev winner, he will hold the lineage of victory over wlad from wlads loss to brewster, thats where he will find his redemption, not by beating a blind man or a retired golfer.

[RUSKULL]

Wlad also mentioned that if the Sanders fight can't be made, he'd like to face the nasty cold that he fought last winter.

Not funny.

[RUSKULL]

if he had fought these guys at the time, 3 or 4 years ago before they retired as in Sanders case who has also been beat up by his big brother and softened up since their fight!
In brewsters case, a guy who suffered a severe eye injury in his last fight [a loss] over a year ago, which clearly was the reason the trainer told lamon after the 2nd round he wasnt going to let him get hit tonight. A guy that was physically and psychologically in no condition to fight.

What a waste of time, its meant to be a world title he is defending! Whats next, will he be digging up ross purritty?

Too late, completely meaningless.

He needs to beat ibragamov/chagaev winner, he will hold the lineage of victory over wlad from wlads loss to brewster, thats where he will find his redemption, not by beating a blind man or a retired golfer.

Stop with the fuckin golfer shit. Sanders was a very good HW contender.

Oh, and Brewster wasn't blind, by his own admission the eye was not a factor in his loss.

[barneyrub]

He did avenge his loss to Brewster. But this match with Sanders is stupid. Hes old. He has no chance. I love Sanders...no doubt tho he would lose to Wlad at this point.he would have had to beat brewster several years ago, befor ehis detatched retina and previous loss and inactivity. He clearly wasnt in mental or physical condition to fight due to that eye injury, thats why the trainer said after one or 2 rounds that he wont let him get hit, why? because the eye injury was a worry. It was bruno tyson 2, bruno had a detatched retina and mentally was scare dto get hit just like brewster.

[RUSKULL]

Can everyone just shut up. The man is trying to forge a legacy for himself. History will look at him much more favourably if he is avenging a loss rather than just putting a random contender on his record.

Ibrag and Chagaev are busy with each other. Peter and Maskaev are busy with each other.

The best thing for Wlad is to deal with Sanders while he has an optional defence.

Sanders has fought recently and is coming off three wins. This is the best time to do it. Sanders is the only man who can really say I whooped Wlad from top to bottom. No fluke, no excuses, no pummelling before coming back. He just straight sparked him with speed, power, mulitple kds, you name it.

Props to Wlad. Now is the time to forge a legacy. He is in his 30s and realises he is making his last dash for the finish line. More power to him I say. I like this Wlad. He fights well, has great advice from Steward and knows what he needs to do.

Thanks for that dose of reality. :good

[RUSKULL]

He might as well fight Sanders. There's no incentive to fight anyone else at this moment.

Everyone in the heavyweight division is either coming off a loss:
Lyakhovich
Briggs
Ruiz
Golota
Toney
Valuev
Rahman (if you don't count his recent shit showing against Taurus Skyes)

Too Young and Unexperienced:
Povetkin
Virchis
Dimentrinko
Chambers
Arreola
Platov

Involved in Title Fights or Eliminators:
Peter
Masaev
McCall
Thompson
Krasniqi
Chagaev
Ibragamov

Or Been Beaten thouroughly by Klitschko already:
Byrd
TOS
Brock
Brewster

If you use the Boxrec top 20 HW list (which isnt perfect but still pretty reflective of the HW division at this point) this leaves Michael Sprott and Danny Williams, who combine for 5 losses in their last 10 fights.

This leaves TWO reasonalbe options for Wlad as I see it.
Holyfield- Good Money Maker but a one-sided beat down for sure.
Sanders- He may be old but he still has fast hands and power and it only takes one punch.

He may as well go ahead and avenge the Sanders loss while waiting for the other top fighters to take care of their business.

Even better post, no offense achilles............:D

[geppy]

Sanders is younger than Mccall or Holyfield, and punches harder. Power is the last thing to go, and Sanders has that. Foreman was able to lumber around big & fat at 45 years old and still win fights because he could punch.

[IntentionalButt]

i hope the same people who are scoffing at Sanders' age are smart enough to not get caught dead cheerleading Holyfield's comeback or even hinting at a Lewis return.

[BigReg]

I can't believe so many people are perfectly ok with Wlad fighting Sanders. Does anybody realize that Sanders has only had two comeback fights since a 2 year retirement and that he was 20 lbs heavier in his last fight than he was the last time Wlad him, and that he's not even a top 20 heavyweight(no. 52 according to boxrec). I'm far from a Wlad hater, but I see no value in him fighting Sanders. People were all over Imbragimov when they said he might fight Holyfield. Most people won't think any better of Wlad if he beats Sanders, and he'll become a joke if he loses.

[JaRulez]

If he takes this fight, he's taking "bent on revenge" to an entirely 'nother level. This would be disgusting. He may as well look up Ross Purity while he's at it.

[RUSKULL]

he would have had to beat brewster several years ago, befor ehis detatched retina and previous loss and inactivity. He clearly wasnt in mental or physical condition to fight due to that eye injury, thats why the trainer said after one or 2 rounds that he wont let him get hit, why? because the eye injury was a worry. It was bruno tyson 2, bruno had a detatched retina and mentally was scare dto get hit just like brewster.

That's nice. Brewster himself didn't blame the eye, his vision or anything but the fact he didn't want to be knocked out of his senses so he could enjoy his family in the future.

Nice try though.

[RUSKULL]

i hope the same people who are scoffing at Sanders' age are smart enough to not get caught dead cheerleading Holyfield's comeback or even hinting at a Lewis return.

:yep

[Ramon Rojo]

Fighting against Sanders would make Wlad look like a chump instead of champ.

[chewy 22]

That's okay, I'll watch it for you & tell you all about it. :good

its cool, ill watch the whole fight on a GIF thats been posted :rasta

[geppy]

Yeah , people would hate to not be able talk shit about Wlad if he avenges his defeats. I have been on this site for years and no matter who Wlad is fighting or any news about him. You have nitwits over and over again harping about Sanders and Brewster nonstop, every topic. Cross off Brewster because he was totally owned and showed the first fight was a fluke.

[RUSKULL]

I can't believe so many people are perfectly ok with Wlad fighting Sanders. Does anybody realize that Sanders has only had two comeback fights since a 2 year retirement and that he was 20 lbs heavier in his last fight than he was the last time Wlad him, and that he's not even a top 20 heavyweight(no. 52 according to boxrec). I'm far from a Wlad hater, but I see no value in him fighting Sanders. People were all over Imbragimov when they said he might fight Holyfield. Most people won't think any better of Wlad if he beats Sanders, and he'll become a joke if he loses.

I def. see the "downside" to fighting Sanders at this point in Sander's career due to his lack of serious training with is evident in his being overweight, his lack of a recent top 10 win, the fact that if he loses his legacy will look terrible, and if he wins no one will give him credit.

I believe this choice is mostly because all other avialable contenders or champions are tied up in other matches. That's the only reason such a fight makes any sense at all.

[geppy]

Wladimir has been fighting better opposition than any other current Heavyweight, period. If Wlad wants to fight Sanders more power to him.Wlad has been taking tough fights and has earned the right to fight whoever he wants (at least for one fight), untill he has the chance to a unification fight.

It couldnt be any better for Wladimir to defeat Brewster, and then Sanders. Then Unify the Heavyweight Division against the Sultan/Chagaev winner.

[Bubba]

Is he going to fight Ross Purity after Sanders? This Wlad Klitscho revenge tour is pathetic.

Yes, yes he is! :D

[Rock0052]

if he had fought these guys at the time, 3 or 4 years ago before they retired as in Sanders case who has also been beat up by his big brother and softened up since their fight!
In brewsters case, a guy who suffered a severe eye injury in his last fight [a loss] over a year ago, which clearly was the reason the trainer told lamon after the 2nd round he wasnt going to let him get hit tonight. A guy that was physically and psychologically in no condition to fight.

What a waste of time, its meant to be a world title he is defending! Whats next, will he be digging up ross purritty?

Too late, completely meaningless.

He needs to beat ibragamov/chagaev winner, he will hold the lineage of victory over wlad from wlads loss to brewster, thats where he will find his redemption, not by beating a blind man or a retired golfer.


a couple things: 1) it takes two to make a fight- Wlad's looked for rematches sooner, and neither Brewster or Sanders wanted it.

2) t's pointless to wait until january/february for his next fight, which is exactly what he'd have to do for unification. He might as well clean out the last skeleton in his closet, so to speak.

[BewareofDawg]

cory is not the best choice. sanders will get absolutely battered and won't even manage to be competitive. wlad should take on a virchis, povetkin, ruiz, valuev etc... why not andrew golota(poland vs ukraine, that will draw for sure).
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :patsch Jackass! Sanders, the big, powerful, sharp and quick south paw who already Knocked him out....and almost floored his brother wouldn't be competitive, but Ruiz would :admin :lol: Ruiz fought Jones and couldn't even wobble him. Yeah, yeah Jones was fast and hard to hit....but he's not harder to hit than Wlad is clean. Golota would quit after the first round and the rest of the guys you mentioned would get absolutely starched. I actually think Sanders has the best shot, but he still gets the shit beat out of him.

[Rollo]

Let him have his damned rematch then - it could serve as a tune up before his next big fight.

[Asterion]

I just hope Wlad fights one of the following:

-Holyfield (money and a win over a big name)
-Virchis (he's already on the Ring's Top10)
-Rahman (former Champ)
-Krasniqi/Thompson winner (the winner will deserve a title shot)
-Liakhovich (he's still a contender and very skilled)
-Sanders (avenging a loss is always good)
-Ruiz (one of the best resumes of his generation)

The best option would be, of course, fighting the winner of Chagaev/Ibragimov...but that has to wait.

Who Wlad SHOULD NOT fight?

Skelton, Briggs, Dimitrenko, Gomez, McCall, Sinan Samil Sam, Byrd, Brock, etc. I'm NOT interested in those fights.

[Lance_Uppercut]

This rematch would be a waste if time. SHoulda happened years ago. Right now, nothing gets proved but what we already know.

[DoumB]

This rematch would be a waste if time. SHoulda happened years ago. Right now, nothing gets proved but what we already know.

yeah but what if he dont avenge it? ppl will claim he ducked him and never avanged this loss, u know how it works

[Rollo]

yeah but what if he dont avenge it? ppl will claim he ducked him and never avanged this loss, u know how it works


Then he´ll have to fight Puritty too.

[BewareofDawg]

This rematch would be a waste if time. SHoulda happened years ago. Right now, nothing gets proved but what we already know.
Wrong. Why because Sanders would most likely be out of shape now? Come on dude. Sanders is and never was going to beat Wlad on points, or even late. He is still just as dangerous to him now because he will still have that quick straight left and a good chin, not to mention size. He would still be a big threat to Wlad, and this might be another good night for all of the Wlad haters I hate to say......but I doubt it :good

[Rollo]

Wrong. Why because Sanders would most likely be out of shape now? Come on dude. Sanders is and never was going to beat Wlad on points, or even late. He is still just as dangerous to him now because he will still have that quick straight left and a good chin, not to mention size. He would still be a big threat to Wlad, and this might be another good night for all of the Wlad haters I hate to say......but I doubt it :good


Sanders - good chin?

[DoumB]

Sanders - good chin?

he does have a good chin

[LennoxGOAT]

I don't know why everyone is complaining.......Wlad has to get in a Fall/Winter fight. He has very little options. Why not avenge a defeat?

[BewareofDawg]

Sanders - good chin?
:good you got it

[Nokstar]

he's only doin it cuz fools like yall bring up corrie sanders beating him up when deep down inside u know corrie wouldnt stand a chance in a rematch. This is the fruits of YOUR labor...so dont complain. Just like yall hooped and hollared about brewster beating him....wlad came back and demolished him and everybody wanna look at it like its a small feat.....AFTER the fact.

[BigReg]

I don't know why everyone is complaining.......Wlad has to get in a Fall/Winter fight. He has very little options. Why not avenge a defeat?

Corrie Sanders is not even a top 50 heavyweight. I'm pretty sure at least one of the 48 or so heavyweights ranked ahead of him is free this fall.

[Heavyrighthand]

Wladimir has been fighting better opposition than any other current Heavyweight, period. If Wlad wants to fight Sanders more power to him.Wlad has been taking tough fights and has earned the right to fight whoever he wants (at least for one fight), untill he has the chance to a unification fight.

It couldnt be any better for Wladimir to defeat Brewster, and then Sanders. Then Unify the Heavyweight Division against the Sultan/Chagaev winner.

:good Sounds about right to me, too.

The Sanders rematch was somethign that Wlad was afraid of before, according to the Wlad detractors, but now that he's considering actually fighting Sanders, after having just beat the $#$#$# out of Brewster, now the detractors seem to do an about face, and now they belittle the guy for doing that they degraded him, before, for NOT doing.

That's some F'ed up s**t, right there!

[Rollo]

he does have a good chin

Okay - that must be the reason why he was only knocked out 3 times.

[El Bombasto]

If he's got time to kill before a unification fight, then why not?

[2smart4u]

he's only doin it cuz fools like yall bring up corrie sanders beating him up when deep down inside u know corrie wouldnt stand a chance in a rematch. This is the fruits of YOUR labor...so dont complain. Just like yall hooped and hollared about brewster beating him....wlad came back and demolished him and everybody wanna look at it like its a small feat.....AFTER the fact.:good what this guys says !:deal

[j0hn0]

he's only doin it cuz fools like yall bring up corrie sanders beating him up when deep down inside u know corrie wouldnt stand a chance in a rematch. This is the fruits of YOUR labor...so dont complain. Just like yall hooped and hollared about brewster beating him....wlad came back and demolished him and everybody wanna look at it like its a small feat.....AFTER the fact.


im mostly a voyuer on here...but this comment required me to come out of retirement. couldnt have said it better. wlad haters pay attention

[j0hn0]

thats all he hears for 4 years is how brewster and sanders showed how he has no heart and no chin and no stamina. if he beats them both , hes gained what...nothing? at least according to the haters.

[Lance_Uppercut]

yeah but what if he dont avenge it? ppl will claim he ducked him and never avanged this loss, u know how it works

Who will claim that? Fanboys on ESB? History isn't written by fanboys. It's written by guys now know the sport and love and respect it. Not fickle fanboys w/ no sense of history.

Wlad's accomplishments alone should erase any doubt, should he go on to unify and have a sucessful reign.

[Marnoff]

I hate that this fight will delay Klitschko fighting a serious top contender, but I see where he's coming from. Other than that, there's nothing really to comment on. We all know it's a trash fight, but it's understandable that he wants to avenge a loss. That's all.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Wrong. Why because Sanders would most likely be out of shape now? Come on dude. Sanders is and never was going to beat Wlad on points, or even late. He is still just as dangerous to him now because he will still have that quick straight left and a good chin, not to mention size. He would still be a big threat to Wlad, and this might be another good night for all of the Wlad haters I hate to say......but I doubt it :good
What was wrong about what I posted? Since beating Wlad, Sanders has done nothing to suggest he's a top HW. Just that right now, at 41, the fight would be seen as more or a farce in my mind. It's not like Sanders has kept busy with good or meaningful wins. He's out of the picture till he puts himself back in. :deal

[marcin1786]

okay so i just went back and watched the fights vs wlad and vitali. Im not sure if you guys remember but you should go back and check them out. He killed wlad and he gave vitali a run for his money for a while there too. Get sanders a trainer along with some motivation and he whoops wlad again. If this guy was in good shape like the klit brothers and golota always are, i seriously think this guy could have taken vitali. did you see how badly he was hurting vitali in that first round?? Thhe guy is tough as nails and hits very hard. Find some way to get this guy into good shape and he would be a really scary person to face. Not saying here that he would beat wlad but its not as impossible as you all make it seem. a stupid fight for wlad none the less bc if he wins no one cares he beater a golfer if he looses he looses to a golfer its a looose loose situation

[LennoxGOAT]

Corrie Sanders is not even a top 50 heavyweight. I'm pretty sure at least one of the 48 or so heavyweights ranked ahead of him is free this fall.

You don't know....please start naming some.

[Heavyrighthand]

Find some way to get this guy into good shape



You make it sound as if you can expect zero effort from Sanders to get his own self in shape.

:lol:

[BobDigi5060]

Why in the world would he fight this man now!? Round up some belts for crying out loud.

It amounts to shit after Vitali wipped his ass clean of that TKO loss. It means nothing at this point, ever since his brother fought Sanders.

[BigReg]

You don't know....please start naming some.

I would think with a name like LennoxGOAT you would be a little more sensible. You know damn well there's no way in hell all of those fighters are busy. Even if by some miracle chance they all did have upcoming fights for the fall, you're gonna tell me that not one of them would cancel in order to get a shot at the HW championship. Like nobody has ever canceled a fight for a title shot. Corrie Sanders is a fucking bum. He's an out of shape, old has been who has fought two cab drivers after a two year retirement. It's fuckin disgraceful for a guy of Wlad's talent and stature to even consider a fight with him right now. I don't give a shit how bad Corrie Sanders beat him.

[geppy]

thats all he hears for 4 years is how brewster and sanders showed how he has no heart and no chin and no stamina. if he beats them both , hes gained what...nothing? at least according to the haters.

Yeah, exactly and when Wlad didnt try to avenge his losses he was afraid as well.

[geppy]

Why in the world would he fight this man now!? Round up some belts for crying out loud.

It amounts to shit after Vitali wipped his ass clean of that TKO loss. It means nothing at this point, ever since his brother fought Sanders.

How do you expect Wlad to fight for a title you idiot, when Sultan and Chagaev are scheduled to fight , and Maskaev has 3 mandatory fights in a row? So for Wlads next fight there is no possible way he can fight for another title. Wlad might as well avenage a loss against Sanders and clean the slate, then face the Chagaev / Sultan winner.

[BobDigi5060]

This fight really shouldn't happen. It makes me sick he even thought about taking it. What a cheap way to end the year. Sure, he is avenging another loss, but it means nothing four years later after the man got his ass beat by Wlad's brother. Not to mention coming off a layoff.

Grabbing another belt belt or two will do way more for his legacy than this rematch ever would. You can't compare this rematch to the Brewster fight. Take nothing away from Wlad, but Brewster came off surgery and hadn't fought in over a year. This would be even easier.

This fight is the last thing the HW division needs. Let the beltholders fight eachother.

[dragosuhail]

jeez everyones being a bit hard on wladimir. i mean this will be the last revenge match and against someone who handled him quite easily in their first fight. hell, the rematch might prove to be more a challenge than the one against brewster on saturday. seriously if he does fight sanders why would anyone really be upset? i mean, once he beats sanders around october/november, both he and the winner of the unifaction fight (sultan/ruslan) will be ready to do a 3 belt unification!

i mean would people rather see him fight an even OLDER evander? or a no-name? wladimir is 31 years old! from next year onwards he can simply focus on unification and upcoming tigers. seriously i suspect the main reason behind all this new whinging is that those who have prattled for years that wladimir cannot/will not fight sanders/brewster etc cause he's scared/big bro handles it for him etc. feel like fucken morons when they time and time get proven wrong.

i bet you whingers one thing. that when wladimir signs a deal to unify against sultan/ruslan... there will be MORE whinging! yep, i can't think of the main complaint just yet, but there WILL be something no doubt.

maybe wladimir should fight a taller guy in niko valuev instead of beating up on small short reached heavies. how dare he! :rofl

there will always be whingers and there will always be doer's.:deal

[BigReg]

jeez everyones being a bit hard on wladimir. i mean this will be the last revenge match and against someone who handled him quite easily in their first fight. hell, the rematch might prove to be more a challenge than the one against brewster on saturday. seriously if he does fight sanders why would anyone really be upset?

People would be upset because champions, especially ones who are considered the best in their division, shouldn't be fighting guys who aren't even ranked in the top 50. Any other top fighter who tries to fight a guy ranked outside the top 50 would get hammered. It doesn't matter that Sanders beat him. Maybe if Sanders had killed Wlad's brother in the ring, ala Tong Po in Kickboxer, I would understand why people twould think this fight is ok. However, that didn't happen, and it's not ok.

[BobDigi5060]

We can't hold it against the man for wanting a rematch.. But four years later is not the time and place. You're brother already beat the guy down, he's coming off a layoff, I mean c'mon. It holds no value at this point. It's not like before or after the Brewster fight he was saying he was on a mission to avenge his losses. In fact, he was talking about unifying the belts after the Brewster fight. Never was Sanders name even mentioned. Might as well dig up 40 year old Ross Purrity. Sanders is 41 BTW.

Wlad/Sanders II is the last thing the division needs right now. It does nothing for boxing, it only prooves to be perfect timing on Wlad's part if he gets a win. So much for talk about wanting to unify those belts. What a dump truck of shit.

[geppy]

We can't hold it against the man for wanting a rematch.. But four years later is not the time and place. You're brother already beat the guy down, he's coming off a layoff, I mean c'mon. It holds no value at this point. It's not like before or after the Brewster fight he was saying he was on a mission to avenge his losses. In fact, he was talking about unifying the belts after the Brewster fight. Never was Sanders name even mentioned. Might as well dig up 40 year old Ross Purrity. Sanders is 41 BTW.

Wlad/Sanders II is the last thing the division needs right now. It does nothing for boxing, it only prooves to be perfect timing on Wlad's part if he gets a win. So much for talk about wanting to unify those belts. What a dump truck of shit.

WTF are you talking about? Wlad wanted a rematch ,but Sanders vacated the WBO belt and fought his brother for the vacant WBC title. Sanders attended the WBC convention and basically asked what he would be ranked if he vacated the WBO belt, and decied to. I remember reading an article about Wladimir taking up golf to help understand how Sanders thinks, now that is obssesive and a little weird. Wlad got a rematch for the WBO that was ordered but against Brewster for the vacant title.

[thesandman]

Hey, why the fuck doesn't Foreman get Ali back in the ring for revenge if age doesn't matter at all????

[Rock0052]

Hey, why the fuck doesn't Foreman get Ali back in the ring for revenge if age doesn't matter at all????

I'd still watch it.

[Cachibatches]

With his "mandatory" already cleared and no unification fight possible at the moment, why not?

Avenge a defeat against an interesting fighter/big puncher, make some money, and fight the winner of Sultan Cahg wearly next year.

[thesandman]

I'd still watch it.

:rofl:rofl

It's a different kind of Ali shuffle now though..... (was that too far???)

[BigReg]

:rofl:rofl

It's a different kind of Ali shuffle now though..... (was that too far???)

That's fucked up.....but also hilarious.

[Rock0052]

That's fucked up.....but also hilarious.

I might hate myself for it in 5 minutes, but I laughed too :lol:

[thesandman]

I might hate myself for it in 5 minutes, but I laughed too :lol:

I did hesitate over the 'submit reply' button for a minute....:oops:

[kaptnK]

Sounds like you didn't have much respect for Wlad to begin with. Let me guess, it his fans right? You really don't have anything against WK as a fighter :rofl

Anyway, WK had tried to get Brewster for a rematch much earlier, in fact I believe he wanted an immediate rematch but Lamon declined citing the accusations of Brewster's victory being tainted by some sinister act. Of course Lamon wanted the more challenging fights like Meehan, who shouldve gotten the decision but never deserved the shot in the first place. Or maybe that idiot in your avatar, Golota. We saw how well that fight went. :patsch
I do respect Wladimir and don't give a shit what you think. I believe he is currently the most talented HW out there at the moment, maybe his brother would give him a run for his money. I dont think a Sanders rematch would be a competitive fight. Sanders may still have power, but it has been some time, not to mention Wlad as a fighter has matured since then. I don't see whats so funny about that. :-(

And as evidenced by some responses in this thread, this fight just might make Wladimir look bad, and give him negative publicity.

[Farmboxer]

Corrie Sanders refused to give Vlad a rematch, but now Corrie will, just like Brewster who refused to give Vlad a rematch, until Brewster lost the title.

[BobDigi5060]

WTF are you talking about? Wlad wanted a rematch ,but Sanders vacated the WBO belt and fought his brother for the vacant WBC title. Sanders attended the WBC convention and basically asked what he would be ranked if he vacated the WBO belt, and decied to. I remember reading an article about Wladimir taking up golf to help understand how Sanders thinks, now that is obssesive and a little weird. Wlad got a rematch for the WBO that was ordered but against Brewster for the vacant title.

A rematch still doesn't amount to shit four years later. His brother already softened the guy up. Sanders is coming off a layoff I mean c'mon, unify some belts please. Their was no talk about a Sanders fight for the past four years up until now, perfect timing.

If it does happen it'll most likely be his last fight of the year.

[IOANNIS]

I believe that some of the guys here claiming that Sanders is too old for Wlad blah, blah, blah are the same one believing that Lennox should give a rematch to Vitaly at 39??

Why not fight Sanders, although he is old his power and speed are there.
Speed and power gave him the victory first place not stamina.