"Speed & Power" Combo: Top 10

[pryorgatti]

Here is my top ten fighters who combines speed and power.

1. Mike Tyson
2. Roy Jones Jr.
3. Sugar Ray Robinson
4. Thomas Hearns
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Sugar Ray Leonard
7. Shane Mosley
8. Ike Williams
9. Ricardo Lopez
10. Oscar De La Hoya

[JohnThomas1]

You need Bob Foster, somewhere between 1 and 5, probably closer to 1.

[Holmes' Jab]

Decent list overall.

An outside bet: but what about Hamed (from a P4P perspective)? No Louis?

[pryorgatti]

JT, I can agree with that.

[Holmes' Jab]

You need Bob Foster, somewhere between 1 and 5, probably closer to 1.


Good mention. He was an absolute beast at 175lbs. :yep

[sweet_scientist]

1. Ray Robinson
2. Mike Tyson
3. Tommy Hearns
4. Roy Jones
5. Bob Foster
6. Michael Spinks
7. Joe Louis
8. Ike Williams
9. Manny Pacquiao
10.Terry Norris

Honourable mentions to:

Jose Napoles, Kostya Tszyu, Zab Judah, Ricardo Lopez, Shane Mosley, Ray Leonard

[JohnThomas1]

1. Ray Robinson
2. Mike Tyson
3. Tommy Hearns
4. Roy Jones
5. Bob Foster
6. Michael Spinks
7. Joe Louis
8. Ike Williams
9. Manny Pacquiao
10.Terry Norris

Honourable mentions to:

Jose Napoles, Kostya Tszyu, Zab Judah, Ricardo Lopez, Shane Mosley, Ray Leonard

Why oh why did i not mention SRR, and tho i thought of Spinks kudo's to you for actually mentioning him.

[sweet_scientist]

Why oh why did i not mention SRR, and tho i thought of Spinks kudo's to you for actually mentioning him.
SRR was probably too obvious. And I picked up Spinks by your telepathy :good

[JohnThomas1]

SRR was probably too obvious. And I picked up Spinks by your telepathy :good

:lol:

:good

He wasn't THAT fast, but fukk he was powerful :!:

[sweet_scientist]

Decent list overall.

An outside bet: but what about Hamed (from a P4P perspective)? No Louis?

Hamed is a good pick HJ :good

[JohnThomas1]

Hamed is a good pick HJ :good

Agreed there too.

[Holmes' Jab]

Nice too see Napoles and Mosley getting a nod in this respect. In particular Napoles: tremendous fighter. :good

[sweet_scientist]

:lol:

:good

He wasn't THAT fast, but fukk he was powerful :!:

Stop sending me telepathic messages JT. Now you want me to mention Edwin Rosario. Ok, if I MUST...

:D

[sweet_scientist]

Nice too see Napoles and Mosley getting a nod in this respect. In particular Napoles: tremendous fighter. :good

The lightweight or junior welter version in particular. Great power p4p and decent handspeed.

[JohnThomas1]

Stop sending me telepathic messages JT. Now you want me to mention Edwin Rosario. Ok, if I MUST...

:D

:D:D:D:D:D

FANTASTIC mention, IMO the hardest hitting 135 of all time, and not exactly slow! :yep

[JohnThomas1]

The lightweight or junior welter version in particular. Great power p4p and decent handspeed.

Yes, your description of "decent" is absolutely spot on.

[sthomas]

Aaron Pryor is worth considering

[Icemmann]

Wilfredo Gomez

Floyd Patterson

[JohnThomas1]

Wilfredo Gomez


:yep

[Ezzard]

Jack Dempsey deserves a shout.

Bob Foster too. How about Don Curry at 147.

[Drew101]

Charley Burley
Kid Akeem Anifowoshe
Muhammad Ali (hardly featherfisted, and that power was borne of speed)

[JohnThomas1]

Bob Foster too. How about Don Curry at 147.

I was going to say Curry could easily figure prominently in the second tier at worst, his speed and power around the McCrory fight was brilliant.

[Robbi]

De La Hoya would top my list easily, but doesn't have enough power to be considered IMO. Best of the last 30 years when it comes to combos, and nobody can hold a candle to him when it comes to variety.

[JohnThomas1]

De La Hoya would top my list easily, but doesn't have enough power to be considered IMO.

Well power is a full 50% of the equation lol

[RoccoMarciano]

Well power is a full 50% of the equation lol

What's you "equation" regarding punching power? Just curious.

[Robbi]

Well power is a full 50% of the equation lol

Yep. If it was just combos alone he'd be up there.

[Hatesrats]

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Sugar Ray Leonard
3. Roberto Duran
4. Roy Jones
5. Meldrick Taylor
6. Terry Norris
7. Mike Tyson
8. Oscar de la Hoya
9. Floyd Mayweather, Jr
10. Ray Mancini

A quick List With a couple diff names than Other's list's..
Tho I Can't say who's right or wrong, All Lists are Great .

[JohnThomas1]

What's you "equation" regarding punching power? Just curious.
Well when somebody asks for the best combo of speed and power they mean combination of the two, so i thought a fair assumption might be 50 - 50 no? :lol:

Robbi, i think you might be misinterpreting the thread, combo = combination (mix of speed and power) and combo's as you are thinking (a group of punches) isn't the meaning. Actual combination punching is not the meaning.

[RoccoMarciano]

Well when somebody asks for the best combo of speed and power they mean combination of the two, so i thought a fair assumption might be 50 - 50 no? :lol:

I suppose they may be considered equal - as you posted, and as the question could be interpreted.

There is a weird mathematical enigma I'm currently curious about regarding punching power. While I don't really expect to find an answer here, I've never cared for enigmas :lol:

[Robbi]

Well when somebody asks for the best combo of speed and power they mean combination of the two, so i thought a fair assumption might be 50 - 50 no? :lol:

Robbi, i think you might be misinterpreting the thread, combo = combination (mix of speed and power) and combo's as you are thinking (a group of punches) isn't the meaning. Actual combination punching is not the meaning.

I think you need to read my initial post again. I explained I would have included De La Hoya but he doesn't have enough power to be considered IMO. I did go slightly off the rails and never gave a list or an opinon strictly on criteria asked, but from reading my post thats fairly obvious.

[JohnThomas1]

I suppose they may be considered equal - as you posted, and as the question could be interpreted.

There is a weird mathematical enigma I'm currently curious about regarding punching power. While I don't really expect to find an answer here, I've never cared for enigmas :lol:

I'm not talking about punching power!! :lol:

I am talking about the split between power and speed. I'd never be so silly as to talk percentiles and such of power - it's an anigma as you say.

[JohnThomas1]

I think you need to read my initial post again. I explained I would have included De La Hoya but he doesn't have enough power to be considered IMO. I did go slightly off the rails and never gave a list or an opinon strictly on criteria asked, but from reading my post thats fairly obvious.

This is what you said

Yep. If it was just combos alone he'd be up there.

Seems to me you think "combo's" are included by that post. What would i know tho :blood

[Robbi]

JT. When I seen "combo" I thought it was combination punches with speed and power. But yeah I see what it means now, a combination of both speed and power. You got my drift, and I got the the thread's drift after a little help from yourself.

Misinterpreted.

[RoccoMarciano]

I'm not talking about punching power!! :lol:

I am talking about the split between power and speed. I'd never be so silly as to talk percentiles and such of power - it's an anigma as you say.
I'm primarily concerned regarding speed and how it may relate to punching power in a boxing sense - regarding a mathemathical construct.

What is your definition/equation of a boxer's power? You see, If I can get a glimpse of your thought process regarding power, it just might make a difference in other areas.

[Mike T]

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Sugar Ray Leonard
3. Roberto Duran
4. Roy Jones
5. Meldrick Taylor
6. Terry Norris
7. Mike Tyson
8. Oscar de la Hoya
9. Floyd Mayweather, Jr
10. Ray Mancini

A quick List With a couple diff names than Other's list's..
Tho I Can't say who's right or wrong, All Lists are Great .:huhNo Hearns but you have Mancini?

[RoccoMarciano]

1. Tyson.

Weren't those eyes banned?

[Russell]

No mention of McClellan?

[JohnThomas1]

JT. When I seen "combo" I thought it was combination punches with speed and power. But yeah I see what it means now, a combination of both speed and power. You got my drift, and I got the the thread's drift after a little help from yourself.

Misinterpreted.

No worries mate :good

[JohnThomas1]

I'm primarily concerned regarding speed and how it may relate to punching power in a boxing sense - regarding a mathemathical construct.

What is your definition/equation of a boxer's power? You see, If I can get a glimpse of your thought process regarding power, it just might make a difference in other areas.

I leave the EC=MV squared equations regarding power to others mate. I don't think anybody will ever explain it sufficiently or completely.

I mean per obvious examples per comparative purposes are a slow heavy handed Foreman and a fast punching bomber like Tyson, so utterly different in delivery yet both are bonifide fight ending specialists.

Then we have skinny rangy (some might say almost frail builds at times) guys like Hearns, Foster and Breland who have great speed of delivery and massive power many say is gained thru that speed combined with decent leverage.

BUT - then we have an Arguello, tall, rangy and skinny like Hearns and co. but also having very average handspeed. I mean what is going on there? We can't loook at fast twitch in this case IMO. Punchers, like their math, is very hard to define. Now scuse me while i get my third beer :lol:

35* at golf today and i played like 6 hours - beer o'clock :yep

[freelaw]

Tyson, Hamed, Jones Jr are best at speed and power combo IMO

(at least from the more recent ones)

[Titan1]

Mike Tyson
Greg Page
Ray Robinson
Roy Jones
Ray Leonard
Thomas Hearns
Donald Curry
Roberto Duran
Ezzard Charles
Joe Louis.