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robpalmer135
02-22-2008, 01:34 PM
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Surley it is repaying the fans by fighting the number 1 contender in the division instead of a bunch of guys nobody has heard of. Seriously i doubt Hatton will get 30,000 in for Lazcano or the others, he seriously think to much of himself. The only way that fight would repay the fans is if tickets were all £10 and it was on BBC1.

I don't really think much of Witter but the way Hatton has ducked him is bullshit.

kurt2006
02-22-2008, 02:03 PM
Seriously i doubt Hatton will get 30,000 in for Lazcano or the others, he seriously think to much of himself.

Probably would. Lots of idiots out there who would even pay to watch Hatton shit in the ring.

jc
02-22-2008, 02:15 PM
He could sell 30000, he sold 20 for the likes of Smith and Pengleton so he could easily sell 30 or more.

most of Hattons fans are not boxing fans though.

Witter is the only fight that matters.

scurlaruntings
02-22-2008, 02:26 PM
"But at the minute I would like a homecoming fight to repay the fans because 30,000 went to La Vegas and sadly only 5,000 got tickets which was a big disappointment."

Im sure his aware that the "FANS" want to see him vs Junior Witter. I see that despite being such a humble lad who loves nothing more than to drink a pint and play darts at his local money is still an issue.

"I found it hilarious reading in the paper that he was entitled to 70% because he is the champion but he was willing to take 30% - he'll be lucky."

mike464
02-22-2008, 02:38 PM
Hatton is avoiding a world champion and the number 1 guy in the division to fight one of Ricardo Torres, Herman Ngoudjo, Juan Lazcano and Kendall Holt! Sounds like he's ducking Witter to me.

Grievesy
02-22-2008, 02:42 PM
Theres no doubt hes ducking Witter. Unless he seriously thinks in that head of his that some one running their mouth about him is a reason to not fight them rather than give them a beating.

Betty Swollocks
02-22-2008, 02:42 PM
The biscuit-ersed Hatton is wriggling like a worm, talking utter bollocks. His fanbase are so feckin ignorant they will go along with this garbage.

His arrognace and gall know no bounds. He knows very well Witter would most likely banjo him and is running scared.

mike464
02-22-2008, 02:45 PM
It's weird because I used to be a Hatton fan and now I'm a Witter fan. It's become more and more clear over the last few years that he really doesn't fancy the Witter fight. I wish he'd just say that rather than insult all of us with all these crappy excuses.

Max Molyneux
02-22-2008, 03:05 PM
By Mark Staniforth, PA Sport

Ricky Hatton's lawyer has hit back at Junior Witter's latest attempts to secure a domestic light-welterweight super-fight by dismissing the potential showdown as "a waste of time".

Gareth Williams insists WBC champion Witter has no business sharing the same ring as Hatton, who is scheduled to stage a grand homecoming at the City of Manchester Stadium on May 24.

Williams also rubbished claims the date could be in jeopardy because of the lack of live television coverage from the United States, saying he expects a live gate of over 50,000 to ensure another lucrative night for his man.

Williams said: "Ricky has got numerous options to pursue. He is being courted by every big promoter in the US and we have options like Manny Pacquiao, Juan Diaz or a rematch against Floyd Mayweather.

"Why is he going to fight Junior Witter when he can fight any of those guys? In our opinion Junior brings nothing to the table. Unless things change dramatically there is no way he is going to fight Ricky Hatton."

Witter's promoter Mick Hennessy sought to move the fight a bit closer this week by announcing he would accept a reversal of the usual purse bid format and accept a 30 per cent share for Witter.

Hennessy added: "As long as there is no greed in the equation, I remain convinced that this is the fight which can easily be made, and which the public want to see."

But Williams retorted: "It's a nonsense. A 70-30 split would still represent Witter's biggest pay-day by about 30 times. He can't sell out the Doncaster Dome. What makes him think he is worth that?"

The Hatton camp are putting the finishing touches to the big homecoming bill and Williams added: "If we only get 20,000 fans through the gate we'll admit we were wrong. But Ricky transcends boxing, so that isn't going to happen."

Juan Lazcano remains the favoured opponent for the assignment but hard-hitting WBO champion Ricardo Torres is also on the list. Williams claimed HBO's reticence to broadcast the fight live was not an issue.

Williams added: "I had a meeting with HBO in New York in early January when they offered a three-fight deal to Ricky. We made it perfectly clear his next fight would be in Britain at a time convenient to the English fans.

"Whilst the US people weren't happy with that, they appreciated that that is what we wanted to do. We could have fought in the US or on a different date, but Ricky feels he owes this to his British fans.

"Suggestions that the fight may be in jeopardy due to the lack of American TV are an absolute nonsense. This is going to be another huge occasion and will underline the fact that Ricky Hatton is simply in a different league."


What his solicitor said, found the article on boxrec.

Betty Swollocks
02-22-2008, 03:07 PM
Wicky and his people are a cancer in boxing, the cunts.

rooq
02-22-2008, 03:21 PM
wow, another article that has absolutely no new information....just the same old boring shit.

hatton was ducking witter before, and is still ducking him, and no number of articles will increase the percentage with which hatton is ducking witter.

maybe one of these threads should just get stickied so we don't have to read the same replies in a new one every 4 days.

mike464
02-22-2008, 03:23 PM
wow, another article that has absolutely no new information....just the same old boring shit.

hatton was ducking witter before, and is still ducking him, and no number of articles will increase the percentage with which hatton is ducking witter.

maybe one of these threads should just get stickied so we don't have to read the same replies in a new one every 4 days.Yes we should have a sticky Hatton's latest excuse thread

Geoffers
02-22-2008, 03:24 PM
For whatever reason, it seems to me that Ricky hates Mr Witter and won't give him the payday. That's been the case for a number of years. Witter's recently got himself legitimately in the frame for a crack at Hatton, and that changes the complexion but that hatred is in the way.
Scared? Ducking? I don't think so. I just think Hatton hates the man too much to line his pockets.

jc
02-22-2008, 03:27 PM
I think when real boxing fans who like ricky Hatton start to think that it is okay to avoide the best and most intriguing challenger at the weight, THEN we have a serious problem!

Cmon lads we not random Citeh fans going down the pub to watch the fight, we know whta is good and what is bad! We know what fights mean something and what fights dont, fighting Lazcano proves nothing, fighting Witter proves alot!

Steve Fox
02-22-2008, 03:37 PM
For whatever reason, it seems to me that Ricky hates Mr Witter and won't give him the payday. That's been the case for a number of years. Witter's recently got himself legitimately in the frame for a crack at Hatton, and that changes the complexion but that hatred is in the way.
Scared? Ducking? I don't think so. I just think Hatton hates the man too much to line his pockets.Rather than beat him up, he'll deny him a payday - a true warrior right there.

Geoffers
02-22-2008, 03:38 PM
In my posting I simply said what I think is happening. I didn't condemn it and I didn't condone it.

FWIW, I think Mr Hatton should fight Mr Witter. However, I also think he deserves a warm-up/homecoming/easy night's work first. Castillo then Mayweather then Witter? Give a guy a break!!

GazOC
02-22-2008, 03:42 PM
He could sell 30000, he sold 20 for the likes of Smith and Pengleton so he could easily sell 30 or more.

most of Hattons fans are not boxing fans though.

Witter is the only fight that matters.

By definition any boxer who can put more than 20,000 bums on seats will have a lot of fans that arn't boxing fans.

GazOC
02-22-2008, 03:48 PM
FWIW, I think Mr Hatton should fight Mr Witter. However, I also think he deserves a warm-up/homecoming/easy night's work first. Castillo then Mayweather then Witter? Give a guy a break!!

:goodMost fighters would have this type of fight after the loss that Hatton suffered.

john b
02-22-2008, 03:50 PM
:goodMost fighters would have this type of fight after the loss that Hatton suffered.

Yeah they would GazOC you are correct there but because its hatton it is wrong and he his ducking witter. Unfortunately even if he had beaten floyd he would still be getting the same stick he did after the Koysta fight.

GazOC
02-22-2008, 04:00 PM
Yeah they would GazOC you are correct there but because its hatton it is wrong and he his ducking witter. Unfortunately even if he had beaten floyd he would still be getting the same stick he did after the Koysta fight.
Its the inference that some posters around here make that if you follow Hatton you arn't a boxing fan that annoys me. Its true that there is a large element in Hattons support that arn't boxing fans but thats because he's popular and has crossed over to appeal to general sports fans but it doesn't mean that eveyone who follows him knows fuck all about boxing.

This type of fight has been a tried and tested way of coming back off a big defeat for donkies years. Boxers fight a decent opponent that will give them a good workout and some confidence back without actually having too much chance of winning. Its been going on for years but all of a sudden its a big problem for some people.....

Betty Swollocks
02-22-2008, 04:04 PM
Its the inference that some posters around here make that if you follow Hatton you arn't a boxing fan that annoys me. Its true that there is a large element in Hattons support that arn't boxing fans but thats because he's popular and has crossed over to appeal to general sports fans but it doesn't mean that eveyone who follows him knows fuck all about boxing.

This type of fight has been a tried and tested way of coming back off a big defeat for donkies years. Boxers fight a decent opponent that will give them a good workout and some confidence back without actually having too much chance of winning. Its been going on for years but all of a sudden its a big problem for some people.....

we're not saying every single Hatton fan is an ignorant arse, guys like Ron and yourself are not.
as for the other point, don't agree. He's been ducking Witter for years, changing the excuse and it's utterly pathetic.

john b
02-22-2008, 04:09 PM
we're not saying every single Hatton fan is an ignorant arse, guys like Ron and yourself are not.
as for the other point, don't agree. He's been ducking Witter for years, changing the excuse and it's utterly pathetic.

I hope you aint including me in that I have said for many months that hatton should fight witter. But in my opinion hatton should fight the witter who turned up for harris and not the one against lynes and Kotenlick which he his prone to do from time to time. Well if the Hopkins fight has fell through why not try and fight mallinaggi and he wins and wins well hatton should fight him end of.

GazOC
02-22-2008, 04:10 PM
Foq, I want to see a Witter-Hatton fight but be realistic, it was never going to be the next one after his first defeat even if there wasn't the history between the two that there is. If Hatton doesn't fight either PauliM or Witter before Sept/Oct then I'll be really pissed off but this next fight was always going to be about getting a win against a decent but not great opponent.

john b
02-22-2008, 04:15 PM
Foq, I want to see a Witter-Hatton fight but be realistic, it was never going to be the next one after his first defeat even if there wasn't the history between the two that there is. If Hatton doesn't fight either PauliM or Witter before Sept/Oct then I'll be really pissed off but this next fight was always going to be about getting a win against a decent but not great opponent.

Which is only right, because his confidence might be shattered after that bandjoing he got of floyd especially in the 8th round.

GazOC
02-22-2008, 04:54 PM
You're assuming Witter has 5 more defences in him at 35 and half filling Doncaster Leisure Centre can't pay too much, no matter how many times you do it.

john b
02-22-2008, 04:57 PM
You're assuming Witter has 5 more defences in him at 35 and half filling Doncaster Leisure Centre can't pay too much, no matter how many times you do it.

That is true I went to the harris fight and I was amazed at some empty seats for a world title fight. Then go to vegas and not one empty seat. Put this into perspective, Witter got five thousnad fans for his title fight and there were as many if not more at the weigh in for hatton mayweather staggering.

robpalmer135
02-22-2008, 05:00 PM
Also Hatton doesn't pronounce his t's he puts k's there instead............what the fuck is that about!

Geoffers
02-22-2008, 05:02 PM
Hattion is pathetic.

Anyone thinks he hates Witter THA much is an idiot.


Anyone who can't spell "THAT" properly is...

... no. I won't stoop to that level. You have the right to disagree with me. Is there a reason for you to be rude about it?

Dunky McCafferty
02-22-2008, 05:07 PM
Unfortunately even if he had beaten floyd he would still be getting the same stick he did after the Koysta fight.

:lol:
What a load of utter bunkum! You trying to tell me if he beat Floyd everyone would have been laying into Ricky?
Jeez.

I have been a vocal critic of hatton here for years, but even I admitted if Hatton beat Floyd I would have had to get down on my knees here & worship Hatton as a true great fighter.
& I still dont slaughter Hatton for getting beat by Floyd, cos as I always say he was beaten by the best of the best. No shame in that.

To say people here would have been giving Ricky pelters if he beat Floyd is a joke. Sorry, but it is. If anyone gave Ricky stick for beating the no1p4p fighter on the planet? They would just have looked plain foolish & have been laughed of the brit forum.

Dunky McCafferty
02-22-2008, 05:11 PM
Foq, I want to see a Witter-Hatton fight but be realistic, it was never going to be the next one after his first defeat even if there wasn't the history between the two that there is. If Hatton doesn't fight either PauliM or Witter before Sept/Oct then I'll be really pissed off but this next fight was always going to be about getting a win against a decent but not great opponent.

Fair point Gaz, IF Ricky takes on a warm up & then agrees to fight Witter or Malignaggi, thats fine. He cant be slagged off for that.

However, it will smack of hypocrisy if Hatton agrees to fight Malignaggi, as Paulie has been trash talking about Hatton in the press for a while. But hey, thats for another argument!

GazOC
02-22-2008, 05:15 PM
Also Hatton doesn't pronounce his t's he puts k's there instead............what the fuck is that about!

Well thats the final straw then, lets lynch the fucker!!!;)

john b
02-22-2008, 05:17 PM
Well thats the final straw then, lets lynch the fucker!!!;)

They'll be even more lynching when him and witter finally get it on and he knocks the gobby yorkshire shite out.:good

KCD
02-22-2008, 06:15 PM
Fair point Gaz, IF Ricky takes on a warm up & then agrees to fight Witter or Malignaggi, thats fine. He cant be slagged off for that.

However, it will smack of hypocrisy if Hatton agrees to fight Malignaggi, as Paulie has been trash talking about Hatton in the press for a while. But hey, thats for another argument!


Dunky, do you not agree though that it is the same as when Margarito was calling out Mayweather and Mayweather didnt want to know, then Hatton makes a comment about Mayweather after he beat Castillo and then all of a sudden he wants to fight Hatton because he was dissing him. Its all about selling fights and in my view 99.9% of fans if Witter and Hatton ever took place would not have a clue who Witter is.

The fight does have to happen though, and ive said it before and i will say it again i thionk it would be a prettyeasy fight for Hatton. Just my view:good

scurlaruntings
02-22-2008, 07:27 PM
Dunky, do you not agree though that it is the same as when Margarito was calling out Mayweather and Mayweather didnt want to know, then Hatton makes a comment about Mayweather after he beat Castillo and then all of a sudden he wants to fight Hatton because he was dissing him. Its all about selling fights and in my view 99.9% of fans if Witter and Hatton ever took place would not have a clue who Witter is.

The fight does have to happen though, and ive said it before and i will say it again i thionk it would be a prettyeasy fight for Hatton. Just my view:goodIts hardly the same comparison. Margarito was vastly overrated and Floyd is the best boxer on the planet. Hatton meanwhile is just a good fighter but not an elite one who has had so much smoke and hot air blown up his arse that he actually thinks his up there with the best guys at 47. Meanwhile he wont fight at 47 because that weight is apparently too high for him, he wont fight Witter because he called him names, and his now setting up a home coming for his fans because that according to him is what we want!?!??:roll:

Wether or not Witter can sell seats or is known is completely irrelavent. His worked his way into the rightful number 2 in the division and deserves his shot. ON merit alone Hatton MUST give it to him. Kostya did and so did PBF.

GazOC
02-22-2008, 07:55 PM
Zoo and PBF gave Hatton the shot because he's a bloody good payday (Zoos best) and both fighters expected to win handily. Don't make out either fighter did Hatton any favours in agreeing to fight him.

jc
02-22-2008, 08:00 PM
Well Hatton was the IBF number 1 contender, and that was the only alphabet title Tszyu held at the time, he did have to take the fight, but your right Ricky was his biggest payday out there!

Dunky McCafferty
02-22-2008, 11:42 PM
Dunky, do you not agree though that it is the same as when Margarito was calling out Mayweather and Mayweather didnt want to know, then Hatton makes a comment about Mayweather after he beat Castillo and then all of a sudden he wants to fight Hatton because he was dissing him. Its all about selling fights and in my view 99.9% of fans if Witter and Hatton ever took place would not have a clue who Witter is.

The fight does have to happen though, and ive said it before and i will say it again i thionk it would be a prettyeasy fight for Hatton. Just my view:good

Its your view & you are entitled to it KCD!
Its actually a fair point you make, I wasnt trying to slaughter hatton if he takes Malignaggi instead of Witter, I was kinda just thinking out loud with my post.
I dont agree with all the "witter doesnt deserve a fight cos hes not got a huge fanbase" Tell me what british boxer does apart from Hatton! Hatton is a phenomenon when it comes to boxing on these shores, he commands a fanbase that no other fighter can compete with. If anyone uses the argument that fighters dont deserve a Hatton fight if they dont have a fanbase isnt right.
If that was the criteria, then theres no-one out there deserves a fight with Ricky! Simply because Hatton is the crowd puller.
Look at Benn v Eubank 1, every man & his dog were Benn fans & wanted him to win, Eubank had a flashy record & a big mouth, but no fanbase at the time.
The fight happened though, & the rest as they say is history. Both are still fondly remembered to this day.

The big domestic rivalries are what makes boxing what it is, & its time Hatton dropped the hate & gave Witter his shot.

Thing is though, I can understand why so many Hatton fans dont want the fight as they feel so close to Ricky they will agree with whatever he lays down.
& thats not a sly dig, cos I have to hand it to Hatton, hes so good to his fans I can see why hes adored by so many now. If I was a Hatton fan, I too would be saying "stuff Witter" as they genuinely feel a close bond with Ricky I believe.

KCD
02-23-2008, 04:16 AM
Diont know if this has been posted elsewhere but Hatton is in an interview on teletext saying he will fight Witter when HE wants to not when Witter wants to, and then he is saying Witter needs to improve his standing with the Americans before Hbo OR Whomever it is will touch the fight.

I can see where he is coming from, but the fight should happen and i am neither a Hatton or Witter fan. I think its just mad that people are saying how shit Hatton is and saying a fighter who i think is one of the most overated in boxing today will destroy him and Hatton is running scared.

and if Margarito is overated then you could say the same for Witter, Margarito has faced and beaten more quality fighters than Junior so far, and although alot of people hate him his reputation world wide is much better.

bratwurzt
02-23-2008, 04:41 AM
I have been a fan of hatton but to say a World Champion (WBC at that) has no business sharing the ring with him, yet four people nobody has heard of have is just fucking ridiculous.

joekirkbycobra
02-23-2008, 04:42 AM
Probably would. Lots of idiots out there who would even pay to watch Hatton shit in the ring.:yep nicely put

kerrminator
02-23-2008, 05:50 AM
The biscuit-ersed Hatton is wriggling like a worm, talking utter bollocks. His fanbase are so feckin ignorant they will go along with this garbage.

His arrognace and gall know no bounds. He knows very well Witter would most likely banjo him and is running scared.


biscuit ersed :lol: quality mate

just like tommy fae trainspotting when Beggars was playing like Paul Newman doon the Volley lol

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

kerrminator
02-23-2008, 05:57 AM
Its the inference that some posters around here make that if you follow Hatton you arn't a boxing fan that annoys me. Its true that there is a large element in Hattons support that arn't boxing fans but thats because he's popular and has crossed over to appeal to general sports fans but it doesn't mean that eveyone who follows him knows fuck all about boxing.

This type of fight has been a tried and tested way of coming back off a big defeat for donkies years. Boxers fight a decent opponent that will give them a good workout and some confidence back without actually having too much chance of winning. Its been going on for years but all of a sudden its a big problem for some people.....

If he wants an easy fight after the PBF bout thats fair enough but I think most fans are pissed at the fact he is saying he will never fight Witter. If hatton released a press statement saying he would take on Junior after his homecoming bout then I doubt anyone would have a problem.

kurt2006
02-23-2008, 08:50 AM
Zoo and PBF gave Hatton the shot because he's a bloody good payday (Zoos best) and both fighters expected to win handily. Don't make out either fighter did Hatton any favours in agreeing to fight him.

Doubt it. PBF could have given ODH a rematch and made more money than he did in the Hatton fight.

So yes PBF did Hatton a favour (and gave him a big payday) by fighting him.

toffeejack
02-23-2008, 09:33 AM
I can maybe understand Hatton not taking the Witter fight straight away after the PBF Loss.

But if he doesn't fight him within the next 2 fights he is ducking him plain and simple.

I'm a big fan but my respect for him will go down a hell of a lot if it never comes off. I'm not taking in this "I'm not giving someone a payday who slags me off bullshit".

kurt2006
02-23-2008, 10:24 AM
I can maybe understand Hatton not taking the Witter fight straight away after the PBF Loss.



I bet if PBF had agreed to a rematch Hatton would have signed straight away without a fight for his fans in Manchester.

GazOC
02-23-2008, 10:30 AM
Doubt it. PBF could have given ODH a rematch and made more money than he did in the Hatton fight.

So yes PBF did Hatton a favour (and gave him a big payday) by fighting him.
Who was clamouring for a ODL- Myaweather rematch last year? :huh They are going to have trouble selling one this year and poeple memories arn't as fresh...

Outside of that Hatton was mayweathers best option

GazOC
02-23-2008, 10:32 AM
I bet if PBF had agreed to a rematch Hatton would have signed straight away without a fight for his fans in Manchester.

Of course...:huh His fans in Manchester wouldn't have minded one bit either.

AK-47
02-23-2008, 05:01 PM
WHy is he such a pussy.
Why doesnt he just fight witter
Id rather watch that than hatton v Ricardo Torres, Herman Ngoudjo, Juan Lazcano or Kendall Holt.

janitor
02-23-2008, 06:16 PM
A man who steps up in weight to fight the best pound for pound fighter of the day cant be acused of ducking anybody.

He has taken the hardest fight that is even theoreticaly available.

GazOC
02-23-2008, 06:42 PM
A man who steps up in weight to fight the best pound for pound fighter of the day cant be acused of ducking anybody.

He has taken the hardest fight that is even theoreticaly available.

Exactly, and now he takes one 'easy' fight and he's a 'coward', 'ducker' etc....unbefuckinglieveable.:patsch

Farmboxer
02-23-2008, 06:42 PM
Witter needs to show Hatton lots of money, then the fight will happen. Hatton was not afraid to go into Mayweather's home town and fight him, with the referee and judges against him, so he should not be afraid of Witter.

BaronBrad
02-24-2008, 05:43 AM
Probably would. Lots of idiots out there who would even pay to watch Hatton shit in the ring.

I think you are correct and I think Team Hatton know this. They will therefore fight the person with the least risk and who is willing to take the smallest amount of money.

I have been to most of Ricky's big world title fights and a good few per Zoo. I refuse however to pay to watch him fight some bum. He says he is giving back to the fans, if this were true then he'd fight Witter. I also few that the ticket costs are going to be high again and we will be exploited like we were in December (where they charged whatever they liked for tickets because so many had already booked flights and we were stuffed).

The nut huggers out there are the ones to blame. As you've said they'd watch him do anything so he will do anything. People need to avoid the fight to bring Hatton back down to earth.

Napuis
02-24-2008, 09:02 AM
Hatton is avoiding a world champion and the number 1 guy in the division to fight one of Ricardo Torres, Herman Ngoudjo, Juan Lazcano and Kendall Holt! Sounds like he's ducking Witter to me.

Hatton is the number 1 in the division, let's get that straight.

He's got a right to to treat Witter like a punk after his badmouthing over the years.

Napuis
02-24-2008, 09:06 AM
Its posters like you that allow Hatton to get away with the shit he does.

So he moved up to fight the most SKILFUL one time Superfeather and who is in effectively a blown up lightweight in PBF - a very SKILFUL fighter, the best in the World, you are most likely going to be out smarted, not hurt.

Yes, he was fighting at Welter, PBF weighed 148 on the night which is Lss then Joan Guzman ( Superfeather) weighs on the night of a fight.

He moved up to fight Collazo - a fringe top 10 Welter.

The hardest fight at Welter in terms of PAIN and risk was not PBF.

Cotto - Clottley -Williams - Quintanta - Cintron - Margarito - Judah - Mosley - Collazo

WHAT A TOP 10 THAT IS - Collazo beng the weakest!

ALL of the guys are MORE DANGEROUS IN TERMS OF RISK TO YOUR HEALTH than PBF.

Hatton fought for $20M - win-win situation, he just did nit think he would get KNOCKED OUT.


HE IS DUCKING WITTER BECAUSE HE KNOWS HE GETS KNOCKED OUT and for a lot less money.

IT BORDERS ON PATHETIC.

All the above is the truth.


:yep

The thing that is pathetic is you.

If any other fighter had Hatton's resumé - wins against Tszyu & Castillo...moving up a weight and winning a world title, going 10 rounds with the best pound for pound fighter since Sugar Ray Leonard - they'd get a lot more respect than Hatton.

Honestly, you look at some of the opponents Hatton's both taken on and beaten and the idea he's ducking Witter is laughable. Hatton doesn't like him, doesn't need the money, doesn't want to make him a millionaire - simple.

There are other options available to him and he wants to take them over a rude bastard who had slagged him off for years.

scurlaruntings
02-24-2008, 10:10 AM
Hatton is the number 1 in the division, let's get that straight.

He's got a right to to treat Witter like a punk after his badmouthing over the years.Bad mouthing? Isnt that what Hatton did to PBF to get his fight?

This is a domestic scrap and a global one that has been brewing for over 7 years. There rivalry goes back to when they were both promoted by Frank ****** and British fans deserve this fight and all you can say Hatton has the right to treat him like a punk because he called him names? Find another sport to watch seriously.:roll:

scurlaruntings
02-24-2008, 10:18 AM
The thing that is pathetic is you.

If any other fighter had Hatton's resumé - wins against Tszyu & Castillo...moving up a weight and winning a world title, going 10 rounds with the best pound for pound fighter since Sugar Ray Leonard - they'd get a lot more respect than Hatton.

Honestly, you look at some of the opponents Hatton's both taken on and beaten and the idea he's ducking Witter is laughable. Hatton doesn't like him, doesn't need the money, doesn't want to make him a millionaire - simple.

There are other options available to him and he wants to take them over a rude bastard who had slagged him off for years.You`ve only just started watching boxing havent you. It utterly baffles me the pathetic excuses that you Hatton zealots read on these boards and you all simply repeat the same tired ass lines you have read over and over again parrot fashion.

Hatton doesnt like him: PBF never liked Hatton. It became apparent that Hatton didnt like PBF either. Lo and behold now that £10M was at stake they STILL fought.And little Ricky was beat back to 140 where he shouold have stayed in the 1st place.

Hatton doesnt need the money: YOUR DAM RIGHT. And yet he insists that because Witter brings no high profile to the fight and no money he doesnt need to fight him? By his own admission that makes perfect sense right?:roll:

Hatton doesnt want to make him a millionaire: Prior to the Magee fight when Hatton was looking for an opponent Junior proposed a winner takes all bout. That sounds completely fair to me. Now recently as the champ of the WBC his willing to take 30% rather than his mandatory 70% of the purse to get Hatton in the ring with him. Hatton STILL baulked and refuses to fight him. That doesnt sound like the desire nor the intergrity of a "hollow" champion who`s only intersted in the cash and when it suits him.

The whole act is tiresome and boring now and you lemmings lap it up every dam time. Im pretty sure you wasnt watching boxing -when Hatton was making his record breaking defences of the WBU- and saying the same thing. You fair wether fans are utterly laughable and have zero credibility with any of your posts just like Ricky Hattons tenure as the socalled best man at 140.

GazOC
02-24-2008, 10:24 AM
Considering its 'tiresome and boring' you don't half bang on about it a lot Scura....

scurlaruntings
02-24-2008, 10:32 AM
Considering its 'tiresome and boring' you don't half bang on about it a lot Scura....You know why because unlike most of the pubescent youngsters on this board i havent been watching boxing since yesterday. There was a time when our British light middles were stacked. We had great fights simply go to waste because promoters were protecting there fighters. The same thing ishappening here with this bout because of Hatton.As a fan of British boxing i want to see our fighters fight the best and do the best that they can do. When you see fighters wrapped in cotton wool and deny THE FANS what they want (and Hatton by the same token repeats his mantra that his only interested in his fans) then its my responsibility as a long time fan of boxing to point out the truth. Im not an armchair fan, a fair weather fan nor a casual fan. If i was i wouldnt give 2 hoots. But to see Witter denied what has certainly been coming to him for all these years is unjust and ethically wrong.

az_uclan
02-24-2008, 11:30 AM
I've been a Hatton supporter since the start of his career. However, he is clearly avoiding Witter and dening British boxing fans of a really good fight.

Hatton and Witter are the best fighters within the lightwelterweight division, there is no question of that. Scula is right, its baffleing and pathetic that Hatton is making the ridiculous excuses for the fight not to happen, its complete bullshit.

kurt2006
02-24-2008, 01:00 PM
Its obvious what is happening. Hatton does not mind being found out against the big boys but if Witter exposes him then he will have no more big payday against the likes of ODH to look forward to. Might as well protect himself, talk shit, do the same jokes on every television chat show and go drinking with his mates.

scurlaruntings
02-24-2008, 01:17 PM
Its obvious what is happening. Hatton does not mind being found out against the big boys but if Witter exposes him then he will have no more big payday against the likes of ODH to look forward to. Might as well protect himself, talk shit, do the same jokes on every television chat show and go drinking with his mates.:lol::thumbsup I just wish he`s admit that simple fact to himself and his fans.He at least owes it to the ones are to stupid to figure that out for themselves.

Napuis
02-24-2008, 01:45 PM
So because I disagree with you and some old tubthumpers I've 'only just started watching boxing'.

You guys are a joke.

Kostya Tszyu may have been 35 when he fought Hatton but he was far from shot.

In fact he gave Hatton a cracking scrap, the timing of his counterpunching was impeccable - more than Witter and his list of lame ass tomato can opponents could ever deliver.

Scurlaruntings, I don't really care what you say, you could have been watching boxing since Sugar Ray Robinson and i wouldn't give a shit because you've trash talked Hatton and belittled his achievements for about 2 or 3 years now. You're clearly biased against the guy. If he'd have beaten PBF you'd have said he was 'handpicked' to suit Hatton's style, or it was his fragile hands, or Mayweather was 'past it' like your other lame ass excuses.

Against Castillo, Hatton landed a perfect punch. Would a Castillo of 5 years prior carried on fighting with two broken ribs? LMAO!

You lot are a joke.

You constantly belittle Hatton's win against Collazo, a guy much bigger than him...who went the full 12 rounds with Shane Mosley. You focus your efforts on hyping up Witter who only just beat the likes of Lovemore N'Dou on points (114-112), whereas Paul Malignaggi whupped him (120-106). Witter's biggest wins were against the US whuppin boys like Vivian Harris (who was sparked out by Maussa and Oliveira [...who were both in turn KOd by Hatton]), and DeMarcus Corley (who's just been schooled by a 21 year old, 13 fight professional, 'US Amir Khan' style lad by 118-109).

If you're going to start trying to tear Hatton's record apart, Witter's is about as watertight as the Titanic when it sank. All the 'names' like Harris and Corley, who fought in Vegas and essentially got beaten by the big boys...have gone on to lose fights to seriously shite opponents. All of Witter's big conquests have lost to fighters Hatton wiped the floor with, fighters not even in the top 5 of his resume.

When Junior Witter fights (and beats) legitimate title holders like Tszyu, Castillo, Vince Phillips, Carlos Maussa and Luis Collazo I'll give him some credit to trash talk Hatton the way he does. Or if he ever gets the chance to last 10 rounds with the greatest boxer of our generation, who some smug twat on this thread labelled an 'overblown featherweight'...only the same 'overblown featherweight' who has about 12 different world belts at about 7 different weight categories, and the same 'overblown featherweight' who beat Oscar De La Hoya at Light-Middleweight. Witter is not fit to grace the ring with Hatton - it's as simple as that. Witter might want to try fighting Malignaggi or Castillo himself first, and that would soon sort the men from the boys...as opposed to his own big mouth. Infact, Witter v Amir Khan would last longer than a Witter v Hatton fight. You boys should shut up whinging and think before you post. The second Witter gets his wish (and payday) to fight Hatton, his boxing career is over.

mike464
02-24-2008, 02:12 PM
You know why because unlike most of the pubescent youngsters on this board i havent been watching boxing since yesterday. There was a time when our British light middles were stacked. We had great fights simply go to waste because promoters were protecting there fighters. The same thing ishappening here with this bout because of Hatton.As a fan of British boxing i want to see our fighters fight the best and do the best that they can do. When you see fighters wrapped in cotton wool and deny THE FANS what they want (and Hatton by the same token repeats his mantra that his only interested in his fans) then its my responsibility as a long time fan of boxing to point out the truth. Im not an armchair fan, a fair weather fan nor a casual fan. If i was i wouldnt give 2 hoots. But to see Witter denied what has certainly been coming to him for all these years is unjust and ethically wrong.I know what you mean about the light middles. When asked ****** or Hearn would say "these fights will happen but they will be world title fights". Predictably none of them won a world title. We did get a fight between Alexander and Takaloo a few years later but it was too little too late (even if it was knock out of the year)

scurlaruntings
02-24-2008, 02:24 PM
I know what you mean about the light middles. When asked ****** or Hearn would say "these fights will happen but they will be world title fights". Predictably none of them won a world title. We did get a fight between Alexander and Takaloo a few years later but it was too little too late (even if it was knock out of the year)Exactly by the time it happened it was far too late and of no significance. Either way the "World title" action was of the IBO WBU WBF variety. The whole auspice was a sham. Simply let them fight. Such a dam shame.:-(

scurlaruntings
02-24-2008, 02:34 PM
So because I disagree with you and some old tubthumpers I've 'only just started watching boxing'.

You guys are a joke.

Kostya Tszyu may have been 35 when he fought Hatton but he was far from shot.

In fact he gave Hatton a cracking scrap, the timing of his counterpunching was impeccable - more than Witter and his list of lame ass tomato can opponents could ever deliver.
Physically Kostya was shot. He was fighting once a year. Great result for Hatton yes but hardly a vintage performance as the fight was a foulfest. Couple this with the fact physically Kostya was repeatdely recovering from injuries we have nothing more than a classic right time right place fight.Nothing more or less.



Scurlaruntings, I don't really care what you say, you could have been watching boxing since Sugar Ray Robinson and i wouldn't give a shit because you've trash talked Hatton and belittled his achievements for about 2 or 3 years now. You're clearly biased against the guy. If he'd have beaten PBF you'd have said he was 'handpicked' to suit Hatton's style, or it was his fragile hands, or Mayweather was 'past it' like your other lame ass excuses.

Against Castillo, Hatton landed a perfect punch. Would a Castillo of 5 years prior carried on fighting with two broken ribs? LMAO!

You lot are a joke.
Castilo was shot end of story. His best days were at 35 end of story. Talk this fight up as much as you want the reality is his a shot fighter. Again right place right time. If you want to lap that up and create it into more than it was thats your perogative as a Hatton jock.


You constantly belittle Hatton's win against Collazo, a guy much bigger than him...who went the full 12 rounds with Shane Mosley. You focus your efforts on hyping up Witter who only just beat the likes of Lovemore N'Dou on points (114-112), whereas Paul Malignaggi whupped him (120-106). Witter's biggest wins were against the US whuppin boys like Vivian Harris (who was sparked out by Maussa and Oliveira [...who were both in turn KOd by Hatton]), and DeMarcus Corley (who's just been schooled by a 21 year old, 13 fight professional, 'US Amir Khan' style lad by 118-109).

If you're going to start trying to tear Hatton's record apart, Witter's is about as watertight as the Titanic when it sank. All the 'names' like Harris and Corley, who fought in Vegas and essentially got beaten by the big boys...have gone on to lose fights to seriously shite opponents. All of Witter's big conquests have lost to fighters Hatton wiped the floor with, fighters not even in the top 5 of his resume.
A guy much bigger than him? Collazo doesnt weigh as much as Hatton in between fights. You lamely try to make a case that Collazo was much bigger when the gap was 7 measly lbs and Haton weighed more on fight night. Your not saying the same thing of Castillo. Considering his best opponents were at 35 what was his case for fighting Hatton at the higher weight and at 140?

Im not interested in a retarded debate with you on the virtues of Witters credentials for a bout with Ricky. Wether you want to accept it or not Witter IS Hattons rightful number 2 and has earned his shot. Therefore Hatton MUST make the fight. To try and defend the stream of cans his fought is ludicrous. You can put as much spin on it as you want but i assure you when history is mentioning and remembering the best welters in the world Hatton will not be in that list for his scraps with all the WBU road sweepers and belt holders he fought.

Napuis
02-24-2008, 02:40 PM
Malignaggi is the number 2, surely you can see that.

mike464
02-24-2008, 02:59 PM
Malignaggi is the number 2, surely you can see that.:lol: You're joking right?

stake501
02-24-2008, 03:03 PM
malignaggi is neither no 2 or a bigger fight than witter.......lets bury that myth now. Malignaggi looked like utter shite in his last fight, he is feather fisted

mike464
02-24-2008, 03:10 PM
malignaggi is neither no 2 or a bigger fight than witter.......lets bury that myth now. Malignaggi looked like utter shite in his last fight, he is feather fistedExactly. The Witter fight is bigger. Hatton says he hates Witter. That makes the fight even bigger. The build up would be quality.

If Witter is boring what the hell is Malignaggi?

Napuis
02-24-2008, 04:45 PM
He had the balls to fight Cotto for one, and he beat N'Dou a lot more convincingly than Witter did.

He hasn't taunted Hatton for 6 years, and Hatton woudl rather give him the payday than Witter - simple.

stake501
02-24-2008, 06:14 PM
of course Hatton would fight malignaggi, he knows there is no chance he is getting ko'd....i think the witter fighht is 50-50 but no excuses now...make the fight Ricky.

mike464
02-24-2008, 06:26 PM
He had the balls to fight Cotto for one, and he beat N'Dou a lot more convincingly than Witter did.

He hasn't taunted Hatton for 6 years, and Hatton woudl rather give him the payday than Witter - simple.And most boxing fans think he lost his last fight.

scurlaruntings
02-24-2008, 06:28 PM
He had the balls to fight Cotto for one, and he beat N'Dou a lot more convincingly than Witter did.

He hasn't taunted Hatton for 6 years, and Hatton woudl rather give him the payday than Witter - simple.Seriously your a clown. Paulie beat N`Dou more convincgly than Witter? From that statement its abundantly clear you havent seen the fight and nor know what your talking about. As for being taunted for the last 6 years puhlease. Whats Ricky a fighter or a pussy? As for the pay day did you not read my post? Witter said winner takes all, he also proposed that Hatton get the lions share of the purse if they fight for the WBC. Your excuses just like Hatton are equally as pitiful and pathetic. Find a new sport to watch seriously.

GazOC
02-24-2008, 06:35 PM
Scura, 'winner takes all fights" are just bullshit offers that boxers use to get their name in the papers on slow news days. Name me one thats ever actually happened?

Napuis
02-25-2008, 05:17 AM
And most boxing fans think he lost his last fight.
No they don't, a small section of chimp brained idiots on this forum doesn't constitute 'most people'.

Napuis
02-25-2008, 05:23 AM
Seriously your a clown. Paulie beat N`Dou more convincgly than Witter? From that statement its abundantly clear you havent seen the fight and nor know what your talking about.

Look at the scores and you'll see who's the clown.

Malignaggi 120 - 108 N'Dou (won all rounds)

Witter 114 - 112 N'Dou (won 6 less rounds than PM)

Are you saying Witter deserved to win all his rounds and malignaggi was lucky to win his fight...wouldn't surprise me! LMAO.


Your arguments are pathetic, I said pretty much everything I wanted to say in that post before - Malignaggi is the most deserving challenge to Hatton at 140lbs, and Witter is a chump who has only fought fighters seriously on the slide...who have all been convincingly beaten by Hatton's conquests of 3 or 4 years ago.

If Witter wanted a boxing career he should have followed Hatton's path, instead of fighting the worst belt holders and not improving his standard of opposition. If Witter is better than Hatton, and has been all these years, why is he still fighting in Doncaster and not Las Vegas like Hatton?

Would Witter fight Cotto? No. Would Witter fight Castillo, Tszyu, Phillips - move up for a title fight against Collazo, let alone Mayweather himself? No.

He should leave boxing to the big boys, shut his mouth, and concentrate on fighting washed up American tomato cans at Doncaster Town Hall. :hi:

scurlaruntings
02-25-2008, 05:55 AM
Look at the scores and you'll see who's the clown.

Malignaggi 120 - 108 N'Dou (won all rounds)

Witter 114 - 112 N'Dou (won 6 less rounds than PM)

Are you saying Witter deserved to win all his rounds and malignaggi was lucky to win his fight...wouldn't surprise me! LMAO.


Your arguments are pathetic, I said pretty much everything I wanted to say in that post before - Malignaggi is the most deserving challenge to Hatton at 140lbs, and Witter is a chump who has only fought fighters seriously on the slide...who have all been convincingly beaten by Hatton's conquests of 3 or 4 years ago.

If Witter wanted a boxing career he should have followed Hatton's path, instead of fighting the worst belt holders and not improving his standard of opposition. If Witter is better than Hatton, and has been all these years, why is he still fighting in Doncaster and not Las Vegas like Hatton?

Would Witter fight Cotto? No. Would Witter fight Castillo, Tszyu, Phillips - move up for a title fight against Collazo, let alone Mayweather himself? No.

He should leave boxing to the big boys, shut his mouth, and concentrate on fighting washed up American tomato cans at Doncaster Town Hall. :hi:O go away you stupid child.Its a certainty you havent watched the fight. If you think the scores are anything to go by when determining a convincing performance such as Witters then find somone else to argue with. Stop trawling Boxrec and actually watch the fight instead of repeating the asinine posts you`ve read from your Hatton peers.:roll:

Witters only fought guys on the slide and yet you gloat over Hattons wins over relics like Phillips Kostya and Castillo? Your a thoroughly hopeless cause an utterly typical of the teen trash that permeates these boards.

GazOC
02-25-2008, 05:56 AM
I have to admit I find it strange that Witters last fight was against Harris (beaten by Maussa who was beaten by Hatton) while Hattons last fight was against Mayweather but its Hattons thats getting called the 'coward' and the 'ducker'.

Let him have this 'easy' fight after the devastating loss (as most fighters do), if he hasn't fought, or signed to fight, Pauli or Witter (pref both) by the end of the year then he'll deserve all the stick he gets. I just can't beleive that people are getting their knickers in a twist because of the quality of opposition for the next fight, an idiot could predict that after the loss Hatton would face a 10 top guy that he would reasonably expect to beat....thats just how boxing works and has worked for years but because its Hatton and people have their little agendas it becomes this massive issue.

hitman_hatton1
02-25-2008, 06:43 AM
Seriously your a clown. Paulie beat N`Dou more convincgly than Witter? From that statement its abundantly clear you havent seen the fight and nor know what your talking about.

what u on about rantings. :yep

paulie won every rd in that fight.

witter lost a few against n'dou and didn't build on that good start.

let's get it right tbh. :hi:

hitman_hatton1
02-25-2008, 06:52 AM
Hmmm... maybe Paulie was awarded every round, but he struggled all the way through. I'd have said Witter's win was more convincing.

no he never. :huh

witter is a more deserving challenger for hatton.

wouldn't deny meself leek. :yep

but did he do better against n'dou?

hell no ffs. :lol:

scurlaruntings
02-25-2008, 08:04 AM
I have to admit I find it strange that Witters last fight was against Harris (beaten by Maussa who was beaten by Hatton) while Hattons last fight was against Mayweather but its Hattons thats getting called the 'coward' and the 'ducker'.

Let him have this 'easy' fight after the devastating loss (as most fighters do), if he hasn't fought, or signed to fight, Pauli or Witter (pref both) by the end of the year then he'll deserve all the stick he gets. I just can't beleive that people are getting their knickers in a twist because of the quality of opposition for the next fight, an idiot could predict that after the loss Hatton would face a 10 top guy that he would reasonably expect to beat....thats just how boxing works and has worked for years but because its Hatton and people have their little agendas it becomes this massive issue.Hatton categorically has said his not interested in a Witter bout. He offers a glimmer orf hope thats about as reliable as a George Bushes evidence on WMD in Iraq and where supposed to hang onto that when this has been brewing over 7 years? Please lets deal with reality and that only. I dont care wether his coming off a a loss. Big deal. He went back to 47 and got beat back to 140 with the same paltry excuses. If his the MAN at 140 and such a beast why does he need an easy ride when the belt holders are relatively weak in comparison to 47?

This is an issue because its been going on for 7 years. If Hatton wanted the fight it would have happened by now. But his not interested in his fans and he WILL be found out. The dirt always comes out in the wash.

GazOC
02-25-2008, 08:18 AM
Whys it all blown up now? Because Witter beat Harris? Or Hatton wants an 'easy' fight after Mayweather? Like it or not, the loss will play in big part when Hatton selects his next opponent, thats a fact and it's totally understandable to most fair minded boxing fans without agendas. To just say you 'don't care' is no argument at all.

scurlaruntings
02-25-2008, 08:24 AM
Whys it all blown up now? Because Witter beat Harris? Or Hatton wants an 'easy' fight after Mayweather? Like it or not, the loss will play in big part when Hatton selects his next opponent, thats a fact and it's totally understandable to most fair minded boxing fans without agendas. To just say you 'don't care' is no argument at all.You mean just like the world class opponents he promised in his WBU days. Some people are easily pleased:roll:

Betty Swollocks
02-25-2008, 03:01 PM
:lol: :lol:
some of you Hatton zealots are unreal. At least some Hatton fans admit he looks a real biscuit-ersed bullshitter in all this, others simply have no mind of their own and repeat Wicky's bollocks.

Betty Swollocks
02-25-2008, 03:26 PM
Its the Zealots who spwend £1000s to watch the scabby c-nt that he cares about, he cares so much that THEY CHARGE THEM 30% MORE THAN FACE VALUE FOR A TICKET!


Man of the people, tickling contest!


:hey

really? 30% on top of face value?
I thought it was Joke Calslappy that was doing that?

Betty Swollocks
02-25-2008, 03:46 PM
Allegedly(:rofl)

Ray Hatton did it!

It was all over the net not too long ago!

Hatton really loves his fans..........................MONEY!



:yep

yeah, he knows his stuff does that Ray Hatton....he's got the lot.

'Ricky only started saying the stuff about Mayweather after the fight was signed, so it's nothing like the Witter-Ricky situation'

I wish these frauds would stop insulting our intelligence.

KCD
02-25-2008, 04:42 PM
Whys it all blown up now? Because Witter beat Harris? Or Hatton wants an 'easy' fight after Mayweather? Like it or not, the loss will play in big part when Hatton selects his next opponent, thats a fact and it's totally understandable to most fair minded boxing fans without agendas. To just say you 'don't care' is no argument at all.


Dont worry mate you can not talk to these people:nono

These are not Witter fans, they are Witter fanatics:blurp

These are Ricky Hatton stalkers:good

You will never win even if Hatton fights Witter and wins, which i think he will, there will be another excuse.

Hatton has faced 3 hall of fame fighters and gone 2-1

Witter has yet to face a legitimate top 10 ranked light Welterweight.....prepare for the backlash......

KCD
02-25-2008, 05:05 PM
Top 10 Light Welter?

You damn arse,

Ndou
Kotelnik
Corley
Harris

ALL IN THE TOP 10 in the World.

Do some research, you just make yourself look silly.


Hatton fought 2 shot hall of famers and 1 who still can fight.

Give it 5 years and Amir Khan can beat KT and Castillo, they will be even more shot then!


You Hatton bum boys crack me up!



Not a big Hatton fan, the thing is Tszyu was just coming off a desructive performance in beating Mitchell, he was devoid of rounds but not shot:nono

Castillo is/was on the slide but he was not shot:nono

and the fighters you have named whilst in some top ten rankings are near the back or borderline top 10.

Tell me one thing...Who would have won if the Kostya Tszyu and Jose Luis Castillo that Hatton fought faced any of the fighters you have mentioned?

the first two fighters you mention Witter barely scraped by and that was even with him dropping Ndou TWICE!!!!

Witter is the number 2 or 3 fighter in a piss poor division as it stands.

john b
02-25-2008, 05:05 PM
Top 10 Light Welter?

You damn arse,

Ndou
Kotelnik
Corley
Harris

ALL IN THE TOP 10 in the World.

Do some research, you just make yourself look silly.


Hatton fought 2 shot hall of famers and 1 who still can fight.

Give it 5 years and Amir Khan can beat KT and Castillo, they will be even more shot then!


You Hatton bum boys crack me up!

Yeah you named them four but if witter had fought KT and castillo they would be saying oh what great victories but just because hatton beat them oh they are shite. Ok a question here if floyd did the same to witter that he did to hatton would he be an overrated bum.

Napuis
02-25-2008, 06:30 PM
hahahaha Witter turned down Castillo because he felt sorry for him as he was past it?!...I've heard it all now :lol:

GazOC
02-25-2008, 07:11 PM
WTF don't you bitter and twisted people understand about this situation? Hatton fights the P4P number 1, loses and now wants an easier fight next. You guys can't be so stupid as to not know thats how it works in boxing. I'm going to give up on this thread, Scura won't address my points while DGPorche thinks typing in CAPITAL LETTERS is enough to make a post true and, lets be honest, seems a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

scurlaruntings
02-25-2008, 07:21 PM
WTF don't you bitter and twisted people understand about this situation? Hatton fights the P4P number 1, loses and now wants an easier fight next. You guys can't be so stupid as to not know thats how it works in boxing. I'm going to give up on this thread, Scura won't address my points while DGPorche thinks typing in CAPITAL LETTERS is enough to make a post true and, lets be honest, seems a few sandwiches short of a picnic.Excuse me? Wont address what points? What is this make believe world you live in? Iv addressed all your points. But im not interested in a rankling debate on the virtues of Witters resume. We can dissect ANYONES resume and talk it up or down as seen fit. The bottom line is the fight has been brewing for far too long. There are NO EXCUSES whatsoever as to WHY the fight has not happend other than Hattons refusal to give British boxing fans what we truly want. If you want to buy into his hype then continue to do so.

john b
02-25-2008, 07:26 PM
Do you follow Boxing?


Napuis? is that latin for facking idiot? :yep


Castillo was nominated for the Witter fight and WITTER said he wants nothing to do with Castillo - he is past his best!

:yep

Yeah thats why he wanted corrales after the moura fight.

GazOC
02-25-2008, 07:30 PM
Excuse me? Wont address what points? What is this make believe world you live in? Iv addressed all your points. But im not interested in a rankling debate on the virtues of Witters resume. We can dissect ANYONES resume and talk it up or down as seen fit. The bottom line is the fight has been brewing for far too long. There are NO EXCUSES whatsoever as to WHY the fight has not happend other than Hattons refusal to give British boxing fans what we truly want. If you want to buy into his hype then continue to do so.

Re-read my posts Scura, Witters resume has as many question marks as Hattons, probably more but thats not what I was saying at all. British boxing fans (or anyone else for that matter) wern't too arsed about a Witter fight while Hatton was fighting JLC and Mayweather, now he wants an 'easy' fight after a big loss and all you haters are up in arms. I've posted this point a least twice before....give the guy a break - he's only doing what boxers always do after a loss.

john b
02-25-2008, 07:32 PM
Re-read my posts Scura, Witters resume has as many question marks as Hattons, probably more but thats not what I was saying at all. British boxing fans (or anyone else for that matter) wern't too arsed about a Witter fight while Hatton was fighting JLC and Mayweather, now he wants an 'easy' fight after a big loss and all you haters are up in arms. I've posted this point a least twice before....give the guy a break - he's only doing what boxers always do after a loss.

I wouldn't waist my breath with them pal you are just going to get a slating from them. But they can let witter have a few dodgy fights mour and lynes but when it comes to hatton you are correct they are up in arms.:good

mike464
02-25-2008, 07:32 PM
Hatton will fight Witter when HE wants to. When will he want to? When Witter is shot.

Napuis
02-25-2008, 07:39 PM
Do you follow Boxing?


Napuis? is that latin for facking idiot? :yep


Castillo was nominated for the Witter fight and WITTER said he wants nothing to do with Castillo - he is past his best!

:yep
More like Witter will only get in the ring with him when he's over 40 and about 1/4 of his prime...that way he might avoid being KOed :lol:

john b
02-25-2008, 07:49 PM
Witter has never been knocked down or even shaken.

HATTON?

:yep

That maybe true but if witter is inactive like he can be in a few rounds hatton will punish him.

mofo2
02-25-2008, 07:54 PM
That maybe true but if witter is inactive like he can be in a few rounds hatton will punish him.John...what always amazes me,is that there are still people think he's ducking Junior:rofl :rofl :rofl don't waste your time with them just laugh :yep

scurlaruntings
02-25-2008, 07:55 PM
Re-read my posts Scura, Witters resume has as many question marks as Hattons, probably more but thats not what I was saying at all. British boxing fans (or anyone else for that matter) wern't too arsed about a Witter fight while Hatton was fighting JLC and Mayweather, now he wants an 'easy' fight after a big loss and all you haters are up in arms. I've posted this point a least twice before....give the guy a break - he's only doing what boxers always do after a loss.Negative. Since the animosity built between Witter and Hatton boxings hardcore have been calling for this fight. Now that the JLC and Mayweather debacles are over there is now a resounding reason as to WHY this fight MUST happen and even more so than before.

mofo2
02-25-2008, 07:55 PM
AND when Hatton does what he ALWAYS does, Witte will conter punch him to sleep!Ermmmmm ok:yep :rofl

mofo2
02-25-2008, 08:03 PM
You live up to your name, MOFO.


:yep
DG I'm a Hatton fan thats heard this debate a thousand times lol,I wish he would just shut the fucker up because there are more threads like this being born everyday, and people are starting to lose there marbles and believe he could actually beat Ricky:rofl :rofl :rofl Hilarious....

GazOC
02-25-2008, 08:04 PM
Negative. Since the animosity built between Witter and Hatton boxings hardcore have been calling for this fight. Now that the JLC and Mayweather debacles are over there is now a resounding reason as to WHY this fight MUST happen and even more so than before.
Did you really think the next fight after the Mayweather loss would be against a 'big' opponent? Hattons oppostion over the last couple of years has been pretty decent, probably better than any world class boxers outside of Taylor and maybe Cotto.

Napuis
02-25-2008, 08:16 PM
AND when Hatton does what he ALWAYS does, Witter will counter punch him to sleep!

What is it that Hatton always does then, apart from KO 4/5 of his opponents inc. proven champions?

scurlaruntings
02-26-2008, 04:23 AM
Did you really think the next fight after the Mayweather loss would be against a 'big' opponent? Hattons oppostion over the last couple of years has been pretty decent, probably better than any world class boxers outside of Taylor and maybe Cotto.O i see so now Witter is a big opponent? I thought in the eyes of the Hattons fans he was nothing more than a can seeing as his hardly fought anyone even near to world class.:roll:

scurlaruntings
02-26-2008, 04:26 AM
I agree,

Urango, Maussa, Collazo ALL HALL OF FAME FIGHTERS!


And now the creme de la creme - Juan Lazcano!


:roflBearing in mind Lacazno doesnt even ply his trade at 140 spent most of his career at 35 and hasnt fought in a year you can bet your bottom dollar he`ll be Hattons opponent.


:lol::lol: Just checked boxrec and it appears to be official:

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Polymath
02-26-2008, 05:12 AM
What a self indulgent arsehole:

-"my fans deserve the chance to see me fight another bum. It doesn't matter who it is they just want to see me, also Lazcano is a World Champion. See I don't have it easy, thats one of the best things about Wicky 'Atton, I'll fight anyone"

-then Paulie, who Hatton fans themselves have berated as a bum who lost to Ngoudjo. I bet he's another hall of fame world Champion by the time hatton fights him.

-Then another money making ass-kicking from Mayweather?!

This stinks, I thought the Mayweather fight would have been a reality check, obviously it wasn't. Fight Witter you coward.

D.Haye-no1-p4p
02-26-2008, 05:41 AM
DG I'm a Hatton fan thats heard this debate a thousand times lol,I wish he would just shut the fucker up because there are more threads like this being born everyday, and people are starting to lose there marbles and believe he could actually beat Ricky:rofl :rofl :rofl Hilarious....
The only thing hilarious about this is your prediction that Ricky would wipe the floor with Witter.

To think that this is anything but a 50/50 fight shows your inept boxing knowledge.

scurlaruntings
02-26-2008, 05:45 AM
The only thing hilarious about this is your prediction that Ricky would wipe the floor with Witter.

To think that this is anything but a 50/50 fight shows your inept boxing knowledge.But the boxing knowledge of most of Hattons hardcore is akin the repetitive football chants of Man City fans. In other words nothing.

Napuis
02-26-2008, 06:51 AM
The only thing hilarious about this is your prediction that Ricky would wipe the floor with Witter.

To think that this is anything but a 50/50 fight shows your inept boxing knowledge.

And to give Junior Witter a 50/50 chance going into this fight shows your own totally inept boxing knowledge.

D.Haye-no1-p4p
02-26-2008, 07:00 AM
And to give Junior Witter a 50/50 chance going into this fight shows your own totally inept boxing knowledge.
Your a first class idiot.

scurlaruntings
02-26-2008, 07:01 AM
And to give Junior Witter a 50/50 chance going into this fight shows your own totally inept boxing knowledge.:roll::roll:

scurlaruntings
02-26-2008, 07:03 AM
Your a first class idiot.Words fail me they really do. I could have a conversation with a brick wall and get more sense.

JamboGoz
02-26-2008, 09:07 AM
WTF don't you bitter and twisted people understand about this situation? Hatton fights the P4P number 1, loses and now wants an easier fight next. You guys can't be so stupid as to not know thats how it works in boxing. I'm going to give up on this thread, Scura won't address my points while DGPorche thinks typing in CAPITAL LETTERS is enough to make a post true and, lets be honest, seems a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

lol

Spot on Gaz, there really is no point trying to be sensible it will get you nowhere.

Fuckin goby's !

KCD
02-26-2008, 04:29 PM
You will never ever, ever win with them:-(

Their whole exsistence is based around slagging Hatton off, when Hatton has done more for British boxing than Witter, hell Hatton had more fans out in Las Vegas than Witter has period:good

KCD
02-26-2008, 04:34 PM
Who would have won?

Castillo would have been stopped!

KT would have lost - ut I doubt Hatotn would have beat KT if hwe BOXED him and not mauled and whacked him in the bollocks!

To answer John B

CASTILLO AND KT WERE WAY PAST THEOR BEST AND WITTER TURNED DOWN CASTILLO FOR THAT VERY REASON!


Face it, Hatton is not as good as you guys thought/think.

I LOVE BRITISH BOXING AND WOULD RATHER WATCH A GEAT DOMESTIC FIGHT THAN A FIGHT BETWEEN 2 PEOPLE I DO NOT KNOW NO MATTER IF THEY ARE WORLD CLASS OR NOT.


SCABBY GIT (HATTON) DOES NOT LOVE BRITSH BOXING.



:deal


My question was out of the fighters you have mentioned...Ndou, Kotelnik, Corley and Harris how would they have faired in a fight with the versions of Castillo and Tszyu who Hatton fought and you said they would Knock Castillo out and beat Tszyu!!! You are deranged!!

Corley and Ndou use to be used by Tszyu as a sparring partner!!

Kotelnik and Harris wouldnt get out of the first 5 with Kostya and i think Castillo would beat them over the course aswell!!

kurt2006
02-26-2008, 04:46 PM
You will never ever, ever win with them:-(

Their whole exsistence is based around slagging Hatton off, when Hatton has done more for British boxing than Witter, hell Hatton had more fans out in Las Vegas than Witter has period:good

:patsch

Yes Hatton is the best. He is the Mike Tyson of the LWW division. The sun shines out of his arse because he beat one big name (Kotsya) who was never past his prime as he fought at once a year since he beat the ATG Zab Judah. How can someone who fights once a year be past their prime ?

He has everything, he is so good that sometimes I think he is the second coming of Sugar Ray Robinson. :verysad No he is even greater as he defended the WBU title more than 15 times.

He did a full 9 rounds with PBF. He only lost because in the 10th he wacked his head into the turnbuckle. Even then the pride of Manchester was man enough to get up and take a few more shots from PBF.

Could Witter wack his head into the turnbuckle and get up like Hatton did ?

He has never lost to Hagler or Sugar Ray Leonard so he is better than Tommy "Hitman" Hearns.

mike464
02-26-2008, 04:49 PM
:patsch

Yes Hatton is the best. He is the Mike Tyson of the LWW division. The sun shines out of his arse because he beat one big name (Kotsya) who was never past his prime as he fought at once a year since he beat the ATG Zab Judah. How can someone who fights once a year be past their prime ?

He has everything, he is so good that sometimes I think he is the second coming of Sugar Ray Robinson. :verysad No he is even greater as he defended the WBU title more than 15 times.

He did a full 9 rounds with PBF. He only lost because in the 10th when he wacked his head into the turnbuckle. Even then the pride of Manchester was man enough to get up and take a few more shots from PBF.

Could Witter wack his head into the turnbuckle and get up like Hatton did ?:lol:

KCD
02-26-2008, 05:02 PM
:patsch

Yes Hatton is the best. He is the Mike Tyson of the LWW division. The sun shines out of his arse because he beat one big name (Kotsya) who was never past his prime as he fought at once a year since he beat the ATG Zab Judah. How can someone who fights once a year be past their prime ?

He has everything, he is so good that sometimes I think he is the second coming of Sugar Ray Robinson. :verysad No he is even greater as he defended the WBU title more than 15 times.

He did a full 9 rounds with PBF. He only lost because in the 10th he wacked his head into the turnbuckle. Even then the pride of Manchester was man enough to get up and take a few more shots from PBF.

Could Witter wack his head into the turnbuckle and get up like Hatton did ?


Loser!! When did i ever say any of the shit you have just put down?

Hatton wouldnt even break into the top 10 LW of all time!

See i am not biased like you ball lickers, since i have been posting you are actually turning me against Witter.

Look when Hatton fought Tszyu, Tszyu was coming off a stoppage over Mitchell (who then went on to fight Mayweather), he was head and shoulders above the rest in his division and he was number 2 or 3 p4p! These are facts!!

Hatton beat the best guy out there that there was to beat!!

Hatton showed guts to fight abroad against one of the greatest fighters of all time and lost valiantly! Only a hater would disagree!

In future dont make shit up, come with a decent argument:hi:

Tosser:good

kurt2006
02-26-2008, 05:13 PM
Loser!! When did i ever say any of the shit you have just put down?

Hatton wouldnt even break into the top 10 LW of all time!

See i am not biased like you ball lickers, since i have been posting you are actually turning me against Witter.

Look when Hatton fought Tszyu, Tszyu was coming off a stoppage over Mitchell (who then went on to fight Mayweather), he was head and shoulders above the rest in his division and he was number 2 or 3 p4p! These are facts!!

Hatton beat the best guy out there that there was to beat!!

Hatton showed guts to fight abroad against one of the greatest fighters of all time and lost valiantly! Only a hater would disagree!

In future dont make shit up, come with a decent argument:hi:

Tosser:good

Sorry oh great emiretus. Of cause you are not biased. It would be stupid of anyone to think you was biased.

Fuck did he loose valiantly. He looked like a total dick against PBF. Like putting Audley Harrisson in with a prime Mike Tyson.

Who said I am pro Witter ? But it would be nice to see Hatton fight Witter than maligfaggot or the can he plans to fight next.

In future dont make shit up, come with a decent argument

What like you two pence argument ?

If Zab Judah came down to LWW even he would make your Ricky look stupid and beat him easily.

KCD
02-26-2008, 05:20 PM
Sorry oh great emiretus. Of cause you are not biased. It would be stupid of anyone to think you was biased.

Fuck did he loose valiantly. He looked like a total dick against PBF. Like putting Audley Harrisson in with a prime Mike Tyson.

Who said I am pro Witter ? But it would be nice to see Hatton fight Witter than maligfaggot or the can he plans to fight next.



What like you two pence argument ?

If Zab Judah came down to LWW even he would make your Ricky look stupid and beat him easily.


So what is your argument then? All you have done is act asthough you are about 12.

I am a Hatton fan and im not a hater of Witter either. So by your standards Hatton is a never been, seen as you are comparing him with Harrison.

Witter has to be consistent with his performances, a good win over Harris (who i have never rated) does not make you the king bollocks of the division when in your previous fight you struggled with Arturo Morua when he should have been making a statement.

If you reply please give me a good argument??

kurt2006
02-26-2008, 05:28 PM
So what is your argument then? All you have done is act asthough you are about 12.

I am a Hatton fan and im not a hater of Witter either. So by your standards Hatton is a never been, seen as you are comparing him with Harrison.

Witter has to be consistent with his performances, a good win over Harris (who i have never rated) does not make you the king bollocks of the division when in your previous fight you struggled with Arturo Morua when he should have been making a statement.

If you reply please give me a good argument??

Collazo ?

Urango ?

Yes superb Hatton performance.......NOT :hi:

Roger Mayweather said Hatton was “nothing more than a high-profile club fighter”. I guess you better send the boys round to sort out Roger.

KCD
02-26-2008, 05:35 PM
Collazo ?

Urango ?

Yes superb Hatton performance.......NOT :hi:

Roger Mayweather said Hatton was “nothing more than a high-profile club fighter”. I guess you better send the boys round to sort out Roger.


Never said they were superb performances:hi: The Hatton Collazo fight was a good fight though.:hi:

Judah by the way i think would beat Hatton if it was at LW or WW.:hi:

You have yet to come up with any kind of credible info for a decent discussion.:hi:

kurt2006
02-26-2008, 05:49 PM
Never said they were superb performances:hi: The Hatton Collazo fight was a good fight though.:hi:

Judah by the way i think would beat Hatton if it was at LW or WW.:hi:

You have yet to come up with any kind of credible info for a decent discussion.:hi:
Yes the Collazo fight was great as it showed how poor your Ricky really is. Only through dodgy judges was he able to get the nod.

Let alone credible you have not even come up with any half credible info for a decent discussion.

I guess you better go sleep with your blow up Ricky Hatton doll now. :hi:

Napuis
02-26-2008, 06:01 PM
Kurt, you belong in a mental hospital with GTPorsche and insaneramblings. :lol:

Napuis
02-26-2008, 06:07 PM
Words fail me they really do. I could have a conversation with a brick wall and get more sense.
probably because that's the closest thing to a living specimen that might possibly ever agree with your crap. :lol:

How can Junion Shitter go into a fight with Hatton 50/50?

think about it.

hatton has won several light welterweight titles, and fought other distinguished world champions.

Witter spends his days fighting chumps that have been laughed out of Vegas.

Hatton's conquests of three years ago have KOed Witter's biggest scalps.

The betting odds for this would be 70/30 in favour of Hatton.

I find it laughable that you think Witter could prevail where Kostya Tszyu failed. I accept Castillo was a shadow of his former self after his wars with Corrales, but still a more formidable opponent than Witter. Infact, the only person who can beat Hatton at 140 is the pound for pound king and best boxer since the Sugar Ray Leonard era. You really are a gang of brainless twerps. :hi:

scurlaruntings
02-26-2008, 06:07 PM
Kurt, you belong in a mental hospital with GTPorsche and insaneramblings. :lol:Ok even though your a knob il give you the "insaneramblings" one:yep

scurlaruntings
02-26-2008, 06:11 PM
probably because that's the closest thing to a living specimen that might possibly ever agree with your crap. :lol:

How can Junion Shitter go into a fight with Hatton 50/50?

think about it.

hatton has won several light welterweight titles, and fought other distinguished world champions.

Witter spends his days fighting chumps that have been laughed out of Vegas.

Hatton's conquests of three years ago have KOed Witter's biggest scalps.

The betting odds for this would be 70/30 in favour of Hatton.

I find it laughable that you think Witter could prevail where Kostya Tszyu failed. You really are a gang of brainless twerps. :hi:Perfect logic. Kostya couldnt beat Hatton thus Witter -therefore once the stars have lined up and all is one with the world and universe- no chance at all as his never not even worthy of carrying Kostya`s spit bucket. Thank you for that stunning moment of clarity. The jury rests.

kurt2006
02-26-2008, 06:23 PM
probably because that's the closest thing to a living specimen that might possibly ever agree with your crap. :lol:

How can Junion Shitter go into a fight with Hatton 50/50?

think about it.

hatton has won several light welterweight titles, and fought other distinguished world champions.

Witter spends his days fighting chumps that have been laughed out of Vegas.

Hatton's conquests of three years ago have KOed Witter's biggest scalps.

The betting odds for this would be 70/30 in favour of Hatton.

I find it laughable that you think Witter could prevail where Kostya Tszyu failed. I accept Castillo was a shadow of his former self after his wars with Corrales, but still a more formidable opponent than Witter. Infact, the only person who can beat Hatton at 140 is the pound for pound king and best boxer since the Sugar Ray Leonard era. You really are a gang of brainless twerps. :hi:

I guess you must be lonely with KCD having your blow up Hatton doll for a few days.

So when did you graduate from WWF to boxing ?


and best boxer since the Sugar Ray Leonard era

Sums up your knowledge of boxing if you think there have been no better boxers since the 'Leonard era'.


hatton has won several light welterweight titles, and fought other distinguished world champions.

WBU :D


Mausa :lol:

Man you seriously making yourself look like a complete twat.

The only time he faces a real decent prime fighter, he is made to look a fool and even bangs his head in the turnbuckle to make the stoppage look comical.

Napuis
02-27-2008, 06:52 AM
No, you are making yourself look the twat.

Were you in a cave when Hatton fought Castillo, Tszyu and Mayweather? I say distinguished world champions and you say Maussa?! Maybe you have Maussa on the brain seeing as he KOed Vivian Harris, Witter's biggest 'scalp'.


As for Mayweather, he IS the best pound for pound since Leonard whether you agree or not. Some might argue Roy Jones Jr. In any case it's not fucking Junior Witter so give it a fucking rest!!

Napuis
02-27-2008, 06:55 AM
I was browsing the net and stumbled across this group of fans at the Witter v Harris fight.

Is it you kurt, scurlaruntings and GTPorsche?

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scurlaruntings
02-27-2008, 07:01 AM
Yes your definitely 14.

D.Haye-no1-p4p
02-27-2008, 07:41 AM
Yes your definitely 14.
He is a 'Straight talkin' mo'fuhha' after all...

I'd love if this mongloid worked for william hill, he'd convince them of giving 7-1 odds for a Witter win.

I'd make a mint.

Napuis
02-27-2008, 08:06 AM
I'd give odds of 25/10 for a Witter win, 1/2 Hatton. 30/1 for the draw - Witter has zero chance of a KO.

You're like most betting mugs, arrogant big mouth who loses money through an expensive ego trip (though will never admit it).

Take it from someone who recently withdrew £2000+ from a betting account started with £10 last October.

Let's face it, any money on Witter in this fight is dead cash.

scurlaruntings
02-27-2008, 08:13 AM
I'd give odds of 25/10 for a Witter win, 1/2 Hatton. 30/1 for the draw - Witter has zero chance of a KO.

You're like most betting mugs, arrogant big mouth who loses money through an expensive ego trip (though will never admit it).

Take it from someone who withdrew £2000 from a betting account I started with £10 last October.

Let's face it, any money on Witter in this fight is dead cash.Man your not even old enough to bet. This is the internet you clown. You cant even make a credible post without belittling your lack of knowledge. Why are we all of sudden going to take your word for on a bet you made like your a walking Almanac? Please..what was the £10 accumilator on? Some penny sweets that you miscalculated?

Tony Harrison
02-27-2008, 08:35 AM
I like you Scurla but I have serious reservations about your state of mind. You stated on here the other day that Hatton beating Witter was not 'concievable reality'. Do you honestly believe that Witter is so superior to Hatton in every department that he literally cannot lose said bout?

If so what evidence is this based on? The inescapable fact is that Hatton is a far more proven entity that Junior Witter.

Nobody is discounting Witter as a threat to Hatton. He is dangerous and is one of our finest (albeit indefatiguably dull) fighters but he has done little to prove his mettle other than calling out Hatton.

Max Molyneux
02-27-2008, 08:35 AM
Witter would get the KO, he has the power timing and accuracy and you don't have to be a puncher to drop Hatton as long as you have timing and accuracy.

Max Molyneux
02-27-2008, 08:37 AM
I like you Scurla but I have serious reservations about your state of mind. You stated on here the other day that Hatton beating Witter was not 'concievable reality'. Do you honestly believe that Witter is so superior to Hatton in every department that he literally cannot lose said bout?

If so what evidence is this based on? The inescapable fact is that Hatton is a far more proven entity that Junior Witter.

Nobody is discounting Witter as a threat to Hatton. He is dangerous and is one of our finest (albeit indefatiguably dull) fighters but he has done little to prove his mettle other than calling out Hatton.

How Is hatton more proven? Your not using the opposition logic soley for this are you?

scurlaruntings
02-27-2008, 08:43 AM
I like you Scurla but I have serious reservations about your state of mind. You stated on here the other day that Hatton beating Witter was not 'concievable reality'. Do you honestly believe that Witter is so superior to Hatton in every department that he literally cannot lose said bout?

If so what evidence is this based on? The inescapable fact is that Hatton is a far more proven entity that Junior Witter.

Nobody is discounting Witter as a threat to Hatton. He is dangerous and is one of our finest (albeit indefatiguably dull) fighters but he has done little to prove his mettle other than calling out Hatton.Of course i dont think that. Naturally as a Witter fan i do believe he has the style advantage over Hatton and should be the winner on styles alone but as iv said before in other threads the bout is a split 50/50 from a subjective and betting standpoint.

Tony Harrison
02-27-2008, 08:44 AM
Witter takes along time to warm up during fights. He possibly takes too long to figure his opponent out and during this time rounds can slip away from him.

Then there is all the posturing and seemingly endless spells of inactivity during which a focused and fully fit Hatton could seriously go to work on him.

I'm not saying Hatton WILL beat Witter just that Witter has his limitations which could be his undoing. People tend to focus on the ways Witter could catch Hatton and completely disregard even the hypothetical possibilities of Hatton smothering Witter and wearing him down. As he has done against Light Welter Weight opposition his whole career.

Tony Harrison
02-27-2008, 08:49 AM
How Is hatton more proven? Your not using the opposition logic soley for this are you?

Hatton has fought better opposition and looked consistently better throughout their respective careers.

Witter looks better than ever before though and seems a more focused and determined individual these days.

scurlaruntings
02-27-2008, 08:49 AM
Witter takes along time to warm up during fights. He possibly takes too long to figure his opponent out and during this time rounds can slip away from him.

Then there is all the posturing and seemingly endless spells of inactivity during which a focused and fully fit Hatton could seriously go to work on him.

I'm not saying Hatton WILL beat Witter just that Witter has his limitations which could be his undoing. People tend to focus on the ways Witter could catch Hatton and completely disregard even the hypothetical possibilities of Hatton smothering Witter and wearing him down. As he has done against Light Welter Weight opposition his whole career.Witter fights down to the level of his opposition. This has been very clear thoughtout his career. His completely disinterested when nothing is at stake. Equally he has looked devastating vs guys who just shouldnt have been in the ring with him.Thats the nature of boxing. Do you honestly believe ini a bout that would define either mans career neither wouldnt be at there A game? Do you truly believe Witter will simply posture and pose and allow Hatton to build a lead on the cards the way he did vs Magee? Witter is a totally diffrent class from those guys that he and Hatton were fighting.

scurlaruntings
02-27-2008, 08:50 AM
Hatton has fought better opposition and looked consistently better throughout their respective careers.

Witter looks better than ever before though and seems a more focused and determined individual these days.He does but time is running out for him and his inconsistency in terms of the amount of fights he has per year is poor. Id like to see him fighting often and staying busy.

Napuis
02-27-2008, 08:56 AM
Witter would get the KO, he has the power timing and accuracy and you don't have to be a puncher to drop Hatton as long as you have timing and accuracy.

Hmm, Kostya Tszyu had fantastic power, timing and accuracy - and Hatton took all he had to give.

You're basing that little analysis on the defeat Floyd Mayweather? Basically, to beat Hatton you have to be one of the fastest in the sport, you have to be quick enough not to get punched and dropped...and generally an ATG boxer.

I'm sorry if I appear pedantic but Junior Witter is no Floyd Mayweather. Hatton fought, and KOd boxers like Ray Oliveira and Vince Phillips who are more Junior Witter's style and level than Tszyu and Mayweather.

I really am flabbergasted that after the various styles and boxers Hatton's overcome, the achievements of his career - a few think Witter would be a shoe-in in this fight, where Tszyu, Castillo, Phillips, Maussa, Collazo etc. failed.

If I remember correctly, a little clan on the British forums said Hatton would have no chance against Castillo as well, the same clowns on here who are now saying Castillo was past it.

Tony Harrison
02-27-2008, 09:05 AM
He does but time is running out for him and his inconsistency in terms of the amount of fights he has per year is poor. Id like to see him fighting often and staying busy.

Indeed. If Hatton's stamina and punch resistance are faltering then Witter has the tools to take him out. That could be the deciding factor if this fight ever happens.

kurt2006
02-27-2008, 03:14 PM
No, you are making yourself look the twat.

Were you in a cave when Hatton fought Castillo, Tszyu and Mayweather? I say distinguished world champions and you say Maussa?! Maybe you have Maussa on the brain seeing as he KOed Vivian Harris, Witter's biggest 'scalp'.


As for Mayweather, he IS the best pound for pound since Leonard whether you agree or not. Some might argue Roy Jones Jr. In any case it's not fucking Junior Witter so give it a fucking rest!!

Hatton NUTHUGGER !!

Castillo - damaged

Tszyu - yes superb and well prime by fighting once a year since he made Zab do the chicken dance.

I bet next you are going to tell us that Tszyu beat a prime JCC and because your Ricky beat Tszyu he is greater than JCC.

Mayweather - The only prime great fighter Hatton has faced and he is 100% outclassed. You and the other Hatton nuthuggers can bitch about the ref but it was not the ref who hit Ricky so hard that he did the turnbuckle dance (which was more comical than Zabs chicken dance)

As for Mayweather, he IS the best pound for pound since Leonard whether you agree or not

:lol::nut

Yes Mayweather is an ATG but there have been plenty of ATG's in between who were better than Leonard. JCC, RJJ etc etc.

Napuis
02-27-2008, 04:10 PM
I will accept all financial bets from you clows on this fight should it ever be made, how about that?

KCD
02-27-2008, 04:21 PM
I skimmed your post as usual!

I thought you meant WITTER against KT and Castillo, in fact, you are nearlt as daft as Hatton.



:yep

Well if you are calling me daft you want to look at your own spelling:patsch

Witter would not, would never and will never beat Kostya Tszyu, never...ever....impossible!

A prime Castillo would break down any kind of Witter that would exsist, but!, i will agree with you on the Castillo that fought Hatton would, in my view, lose to Witter.

KCD
02-27-2008, 04:29 PM
Yes the Collazo fight was great as it showed how poor your Ricky really is. Only through dodgy judges was he able to get the nod.

Let alone credible you have not even come up with any half credible info for a decent discussion.

I guess you better go sleep with your blow up Ricky Hatton doll now. :hi:

Sorry to get back so late, time was getting on and i had to put my Hatton pj's on with my Hatton slippers. I also thought i would treat myself and get the mrs to get big sally out and butt fuck me whilst wearing the Hatton mask i purchased to improve my love life!

Anyways, if the Collazo fight "exposed" Hatton, with "dodgy" scoring, then what about Witter against Ndou? Did this show Witters abismal stamina?

What about Koltenik? He only just won and got walked down in the final stages of the fight, i could go on but im not going to as i am only dragging myself down to your Hatton hating level.#

I have said it before, and i will say it again i am not a big Hatton fan! I am a fan but the fighter who shares my bed in the form of a blow up doll is Cotto:tong

KCD
02-27-2008, 04:31 PM
Hatton NUTHUGGER !!

Castillo - damaged

Tszyu - yes superb and well prime by fighting once a year since he made Zab do the chicken dance.

I bet next you are going to tell us that Tszyu beat a prime JCC and because your Ricky beat Tszyu he is greater than JCC.

Mayweather - The only prime great fighter Hatton has faced and he is 100% outclassed. You and the other Hatton nuthuggers can bitch about the ref but it was not the ref who hit Ricky so hard that he did the turnbuckle dance (which was more comical than Zabs chicken dance)



:lol::nut

Yes Mayweather is an ATG but there have been plenty of ATG's in between who were better than Leonard. JCC, RJJ etc etc.


JUDAH THE ONLY PRIME, HALF DECENT FIGHTER WITTER HAS FACED AND HE CRAPPED HIMSELF!!

kurt2006
02-27-2008, 04:38 PM
JUDAH THE ONLY PRIME, HALF DECENT FIGHTER WITTER HAS FACED AND HE CRAPPED HIMSELF!!

:lol:

Once again you show how much you really know. :nut

At a weeks notice Witter comes and does 12 with Zab.

Now please tell me what your fat Ricky could do at a weeks notice. Fat Ricky would not even be able to make the weight let alone fight 12 rounds.

PBF THE ONLY PRIME, HALF DECENT FIGHTER HATTON HAS FACED AND HE IS MADE TO LOOK LIKE A CLOWN.

KCD
02-27-2008, 04:45 PM
:lol:

Once again you show how much you really know. :nut

At a weeks notice Witter comes and does 12 with Zab.

Now please tell me what your fat Ricky could do at a weeks notice. Fat Ricky would not even be able to make the weight let alone fight 12 rounds.

PBF THE ONLY PRIME, HALF DECENT FIGHTER HATTON HAS FACED AND HE IS MADE TO LOOK LIKE A CLOWN.


So Kostya Tszyu and Castillo wont be heading into the hall of fame?

Fat Ricky couldnt but why would he want to, it seems to me you are envious of the way Hatton has been managed, properly that is!

It is Witters managers/advisors fault that his career took so long to get started, ****** couldnt get anyone to fight him as he pick pocketed his way through fights at the same time Hatton was giving fans value!

By the time Witter had stopped fighting like a shit copy of Naz Hatton was leagues above him in sponsorship, fans and t.v time.

Blame Witter for his problems, and although he deserves praise for getting into the fight at a weeks notice, he knew what he was doing and he should have made the most of it, his fault, his problem!

kurt2006
02-27-2008, 05:07 PM
So Kostya Tszyu and Castillo wont be heading into the hall of fame?

Fat Ricky couldnt but why would he want to, it seems to me you are envious of the way Hatton has been managed, properly that is!

It is Witters managers/advisors fault that his career took so long to get started, ****** couldnt get anyone to fight him as he pick pocketed his way through fights at the same time Hatton was giving fans value!

By the time Witter had stopped fighting like a shit copy of Naz Hatton was leagues above him in sponsorship, fans and t.v time.

Blame Witter for his problems, and although he deserves praise for getting into the fight at a weeks notice, he knew what he was doing and he should have made the most of it, his fault, his problem!

Pointless even trying to debate with you as you spout shit every post. You try to mask your a Hatton nuthugger but it is obvious in your posts that you are in love with Hatton. You are so brainless you never even knew the Zab fight was taken by Witter at a weeks notice. You know sweet FA about anything other than brown nosing Hatton.

Yes Tszyu and Castillo will be heading to the HOF but Hatton has as much chance as Trevor Berbick (after beating Ali) of getting into the HOF. Beating past prime fighters does not mean much. Next you will be telling me that Willy Wise beat JCC so that makes him a great fighter. Oh and lets big up Kev McBride as he beat Tyson.


****** couldnt get anyone to fight him as he pick pocketed his way through fights at the same time Hatton was giving fans value!


:nut Yes superb value defending a shitty title against cans.

Mikey
02-27-2008, 06:45 PM
I have very little respect for Hatton at present he talks a lot of garbage.

Today his dad said Witter is pricing himself out of the fight with Hatton, they made Witter an offer which they didnt state how much.

All I know it has to be less than 30% cause he said Witter is demanding 30% of all what the fight makes and ray Hatton said Witter is not worth 30%, with Hatton's lawyer stating "What makes Junior think he is even worth that type of money."


Now this is what pisses me off, Witter is the WBC World Champion, WBC say that there champion can not earn any less than 30% of the purse and infact there entitled to 70% of what the fight makes let alone 30%, which is why Witter said he would even accept the lowest he can make and the Hatton camp come out with this fuckin bull shit, it makes a mockery of the sport, Hatton said himself "If Junior gets a world title we can get the fight on."

So he gets the World Title and now its the world title itself that is the reason that the fight can't be made?

Napuis
02-28-2008, 05:01 AM
Witter fought Judah at a weeks notice you whine - but you do acknowledge he lost, right?

To the guy Tszyu made do the chicken dance, who was in turn stripped of his belts by a sensational Wicky 'atton performance.

Hatton > Tszyu > Judah > Witter.

Yes, I can quite clearly see why everyone makes Witter a favourite for this fight. :lol:

Mikey
02-29-2008, 09:12 PM
Witter fought Judah at a weeks notice you whine - but you do acknowledge he lost, right?

To the guy Tszyu made do the chicken dance, who was in turn stripped of his belts by a sensational Wicky 'atton performance.

Hatton > Tszyu > Judah > Witter.

Yes, I can quite clearly see why everyone makes Witter a favourite for this fight. :lol:

So in turn Shane Mosley destroys Hatton by rape then?