Oh yeah....

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

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Go on and hate.

[acb]

He threw a few right hands. Every fighter throws a few right hands.

Doesn't mean he threw enough.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

He threw a few right hands. Every fighter throws a few right hands.

Doesn't mean he threw enough.
How do you judge enough? He won the fight... seems like it must have been enough. Enough to please his critics? They are never pleased.

[Shane]

Nice right hand lackluster bout im over it.

[TFFP]

Boring

[acb]

How do you judge enough? He won the fight... seems like it must have been enough. Enough to please his critics? They are never pleased.

I am neither a fan nor a hater of Wlad.

Boxing is both sport and entertainment.

He succeeded in the sport aspect (by winning) but not the entertainement aspect- especialy being that he has the most powerful right hand in the game.

If I pay money to watch Lebron, and he has an opportunity to throw down something nasty, I don't want to see him lay the ball in. Thats just the sports fan aspect.

[FRKO]

Even Wlad admits he should have thrown more rights and that he was playing it safe.

SAFE = BORING

Get over it.

[TRUEBELIEVER 66]

That video dosen't mean jack-shit, he knocked a guy, 25lbs lighter and half a foot shorter than him into the ropes, Ray Austin knocked Iggy down so what..
If i wanna see someone get a serious ass kicking i'll just watch Sanders and Brewester, guy's who are smaller than Wlad"i can't throw my right hand, and im afraid to get hit " Klits:lol: Knock him the hell out..
This is why the Heavyweight sucks so bad! look who supposedly the best Wlad "i wanna hug you Klitchko..:-(

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Ahh.... I love it.:rofl

[younghov2k4]

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Go on and hate.

if anyone missed the fight, just watch this clip because absolutely nothing else happened besides this.

all the rest is sultan trying little to get in and wlad doing nothing to put him away when everyone including emanual stewerd thought he should.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Keep it coming guys. This is exactly what I was looking for. I can't get enough of it.

[offthahook]

LOL widdowmaker is a homo, his trainer and him both knew it was a boring fight, thats the only point were making, not that hes not good, just it was a shitty fight u nutthugging cock sucker

[KayEpps]

He won the fight - but the fight was booty.

It's hard to gain new fans with a performance like that.

[Punisher33]

Wow he threw a couple good punches the whole fight, I should be more grateful I guess, Zelenoff hitting the Heavybag was more exciting this fight, at least Vicious threw punches.

[LiamE]

He was fully capable of stopping Sultan.

That he won the fight without taking chances says to me that he is a very good boxer but also he's a bit gunshy.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Look at yourselves.... you can't resist.:lol: :lol:

[TRUEBELIEVER 66]

LOL widdowmaker is a homo, his trainer and him both knew it was a boring fight, thats the only point were making, not that hes not good, just it was a shitty fight u nutthugging cock sucker
:lol: Watching Nicolay Valuev taking a dump would be more exciting than that BULLSHIT FIGHT:-(..
When im in the mood to watch real Heavyweight champions fight without being scared of being hit, like wimps, i'll watch Ali-Frazier, or Bowe-Holyfield 1, or Lennox Lewis-Ray Mercer..

[Punisher33]

:lol: Watching Nicolay Valuev taking a dump would be more exciting than that BULLSHIT FIGHT:-(..
When im in the mood to watch real Heavyweight champions fight without being scared of being hit, like wimps, i'll watch Ali-Frazier, or Bowe-Holyfield 1, or Lennox Lewis-Ray Mercer.. Exactly, thats probably the biggest reason I dislike Wlad, I have a hard time cheering for someone who's afraid to get hit, and seems to either panic or melt like an icecream cone on a warm July day, Wlads only good when he's throwing the punches, when the tables are turned, he shows his true colors.

[Fighting Weight]

36 minutes of 'action' and that's all you can come up with :lol:

[Relentless]

sultans entrance was the best part of the fight.

[offthahook]

Look at yourselves.... you can't resist.:lol: :lol:

LOL, :patsch what a clueless asshole this guy is

[Relentless]

widdow let me ask you, did you not find this fight boring?

[BewareofDawg]

widdow let me ask you, did you not find this fight boring?
Relentless let me ask you, did you find his previous 4 fights boring?

[Relentless]

no, but that doesn't answer my question.

he could have fought boring against his previous 4 opponents and then put on a good show when it really mattered in the most important fight of his career.

even emanuel steward was pissed off.

[DamonD]

Cool, that gif saves me getting a full copy of the fight.

[maciek4]

The fight was boring but you cant blame Wlad, of course he was catious first, winning the titles (winning period) is more important than putting up a good fight. Just want to remind you that Wlad had a mindset to entertain people first in the first Brewster fight and it cost him dearly.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

widdow let me ask you, did you not find this fight boring?
Was I bored while the fight was going on? No, I wasn't. I was anticipating, and nothing huge ended up happening.... just like most boxing matches. I don't mind someone saying that this is a boring fight. What I find hilarious is how everyone now labels Wlad a gunshy, scared, boring ass fighter due to this one fight. Completley overlooking the fact that he is known to be one of the most exciting fighters out there right now. You are almost always in for a knockout. So, Ibragimov comes in, refuses to make a fight out of it, and Wlad is too smart to leave himself wide open and give Sultan the only chance that he has of winning the fight... and it's Wlad's fault? The fight being boring was Sultan's fault. Wlad was easily controlling the fight, stalking Iggy around the ring, pushing the pace, and dominating him. Wlad didn't have to change a thing, and Sultan was playing too much defense to give Wlad any real openings. If Wlad was losing the fight, and refused to open up and go for something, then I would understand. However, it is Sultan's job to open up, when he was the one losing the fight. Yet... rather than people coming on here and bashing Sultan for not putting for an effort and trying to win the fight... they bash Wlad because he didn't go for broke and try wrecklessly to knock him out.

Makes no sense. Iggy is only the second fighter in 7 years to go the distance against Wlad, and the other was Sam Peter in a very exciting fight. Yet... Wlad is labeled as a boring, gunshy, joke of a champion because of one uneventful fight.... due to his opponents unwillingness to put forth a winning effort.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

no, but that doesn't answer my question.

he could have fought boring against his previous 4 opponents and then put on a good show when it really mattered in the most important fight of his career.

even emanuel steward was pissed off.
No, Manny wasn't pissed off. You must not have listened to him after the fight.

[kg0208]

No, Manny wasn't pissed off. You must not have listened to him after the fight.

His words in between rounds were that this guy should never had made it 12 rounds. He wanted Wlad to open up and finish him, and had been saying he wanted more rights for a few rounds. So regardless of what he says after the fact, in the heat of the moment, without the benefit of hindsight, Steward wanted him to open up and Wlad was not complying.

[offthahook]

lol these guys arent saying wlad sucks but ure dumbass constantly fuels the fire by saying "these guys cant help themselves" all of us here have just said the fight was boring you asshole, not that he sucks.

[Wilhelm]

Nice snap.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

lol these guys arent saying wlad sucks but ure dumbass constantly fuels the fire by saying "these guys cant help themselves" all of us here have just said the fight was boring you asshole, not that he sucks.
Maybe you should learn how to read? I am not addressing the people who have just said the fight was boring. I am talking about the haters, who have said much more than that. Thanks for your concern... nobody was talking to you obviously so you can stop posting on this thread.

[BewareofDawg]

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Widdow did you make that clip yourself? if so, Do you need a program for it or can anybody do it?

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Widdow did you make that clip yourself? if so, Do you need a program for it or can anybody do it?
I made it myself. You do need a program for it. I used the guide that "Marc" made in the lounge.

[Relentless]

No, Manny wasn't pissed off. You must not have listened to him after the fight.

i dont know i dont usually watch post fight conferences i usually just watch the fights itself, and after the fight manny probably remembered who pays him.

[offthahook]

Asshole, you posted a GIF of 2 of wlads good moments in the fight, insinuating (spelling) that we are all delusional for thinking it was a shitty fight, if there was words to read i would read them, the only posts you made was a GIF, and a couple of posts egging people on saying "oh you guys cant resist" :hi::cus

Maybe you should learn how to read? I am not addressing the people who have just said the fight was boring. I am talking about the haters, who have said much more than that. Thanks for your concern... nobody was talking to you obviously so you can stop posting on this thread.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

i dont know i dont usually watch post fight conferences i usually just watch the fights itself, and after the fight manny probably remembered who pays him.
Yeah... right. I am sure that Manny, being new to the game and all... didn't even know that they would be airing his words in the corner of Wlad during the fight. If you watch earlier in the fight, Manny tells him not to change a thing. I think that it is an obvious case of a trainer trying to keep his fighter alert in a fight where he is easily dominating. He obviously wanted Wlad ready for war in the last couple rounds, figuring that Sultan was going to lay it all out on the table. However, Sultan never bothered to open up, so Wlad just kept doing what he was doing.

After the fight, Manny basically said exactly what I had been saying on here directly after the fight. Sultan being smaller, fighting small, and leaning down and back made it too difficult to throw many right hands without being completely off balance. He said that is the trap that Ibragimov always uses to set up his bigger opponents with and beats them. He said that he wasn't disappointed, and he told Wlad to chalk up the win and move on to the next fight.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Asshole, you posted a GIF of 2 of wlads good moments in the fight, insinuating (spelling) that we are all delusional for thinking it was a shitty fight, if there was words to read i would read them, the only posts you made was a GIF, and a couple of posts egging people on saying "oh you guys cant resist" :hi::cus
Really? Are you a bit of a tard? Did you read what I just posted? Just because you assume something, doesn't mean that you are correct. You read why I actually posted it, and who I was directing it at, so it ends there. If you aren't retarded you should be able to read and understand what I just told you.

Before I leave you to tend to your anger issues, I will give you a couple tips.

1. Don't assume that you know more about someone than they know about themselves. For example... don't argue with me as to why I made a post and who I was directing it towards.

2. Don't quote my posts, and start using the word "we", when discussing who I was talking to... because I sure as hell never even knew that you existed, and will continue to ignore your pathetic attempts at posting as soon as I am done with this response.


Now, for the last time. This is for the Wlad haters, talking about what a shitty fighter he is, what a joke of a champion he is, how gunshy he is, ect.... If you aren't one of those guys... then move on. If you are, then yes this was directed to you.

[billyconn]

Really? Are you a bit of a tard? Did you read what I just posted? Just because you assume something, doesn't mean that you are correct. You read why I actually posted it, and who I was directing it at, so it ends there. If you aren't retarded you should be able to read and understand what I just told you.

Before I leave you to tend to your anger issues, I will give you a couple tips.

1. Don't assume that you know more about someone than they know about themselves. For example... don't argue with me as to why I made a post and who I was directing it towards.

2. Don't quote my posts, and start using the word "we", when discussing who I was talking to... because I sure as hell never even knew that you existed, and will continue to ignore your pathetic attempts at posting as soon as I am done with this response.


Now, for the last time. This is for the Wlad haters, talking about what a shitty fighter he is, what a joke of a champion he is, how gunshy he is, ect.... If you aren't one of those guys... then move on. If you are, then yes this was directed to you.

Vlad should take aggressive lessons from you....:bbb

[Knob McDude]

I am neither a fan nor a hater of Wlad.

Boxing is both sport and entertainment.

He succeeded in the sport aspect (by winning) but not the entertainement aspect- especialy being that he has the most powerful right hand in the game.

If I pay money to watch Lebron, and he has an opportunity to throw down something nasty, I don't want to see him lay the ball in. Thats just the sports fan aspect.

Perfect analogy.

:good

[Rise Above]

It was a boring fight but that happens in boxing sometimes. No big deal really.

[Knob McDude]

It was a boring fight but that happens in boxing sometimes. No big deal really.

Exactly.

No big deal.

[Relentless]

Vlad should take aggressive lessons from you....:bbb

i dont think even wlad feels about him the way widdows does.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

It was a boring fight but that happens in boxing sometimes. No big deal really.
Exactly. I have no problem with people feeling that the fight was boring. At least you didn't label Wlad, and his entire career based on one boring fight.

[badger6]

Even Wlad admits he should have thrown more rights and that he was playing it safe.

SAFE = BORING

Get over it.

He probably took a lesson from boring little floyd !!:yep

[AJAX]

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Go on and hate.

those were the only 2 exiting parts of the whole fight, too bad he wasn't even a tad more aggressive he could have finished it.

[Lance_Uppercut]

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Go on and hate.

Just sad....:-(

[Ethan Trims]

Was I bored while the fight was going on? No, I wasn't. I was anticipating, and nothing huge ended up happening.... just like most boxing matches. I don't mind someone saying that this is a boring fight. What I find hilarious is how everyone now labels Wlad a gunshy, scared, boring ass fighter due to this one fight. Completley overlooking the fact that he is known to be one of the most exciting fighters out there right now. You are almost always in for a knockout. So, Ibragimov comes in, refuses to make a fight out of it, and Wlad is too smart to leave himself wide open and give Sultan the only chance that he has of winning the fight... and it's Wlad's fault? The fight being boring was Sultan's fault. Wlad was easily controlling the fight, stalking Iggy around the ring, pushing the pace, and dominating him. Wlad didn't have to change a thing, and Sultan was playing too much defense to give Wlad any real openings. If Wlad was losing the fight, and refused to open up and go for something, then I would understand. However, it is Sultan's job to open up, when he was the one losing the fight. Yet... rather than people coming on here and bashing Sultan for not putting for an effort and trying to win the fight... they bash Wlad because he didn't go for broke and try wrecklessly to knock him out.

Makes no sense. Iggy is only the second fighter in 7 years to go the distance against Wlad, and the other was Sam Peter in a very exciting fight. Yet... Wlad is labeled as a boring, gunshy, joke of a champion because of one uneventful fight.... due to his opponents unwillingness to put forth a winning effort.

1. stop blaiming the boring fight on sultan, if he would of pressured klit he would of of gotten ko'd immediately. Its not his fault that he didnt commit suicide and open up with overly aggressive punches and create so many easy holes for klit to land that right hand.

2. klit could of ended the fight any time he wanted, if he would only of stepped up the tempo and of taken a chance with that 1-2. This was an obvious mismatch from the 2nd round on, sultan posed almost no threat to klit with his telegraphed, curved punches, hes not a power puncher anyway. Vlad wasnt in there with an offensive machine like C Sanders, and he wasnt in any danger of gassing during this jabfest.


This fight reminds me of May-Baldomir except people would probably rather watch Mayweather do his slick moves than watch a Klit jabfest. Klitchko fights can be entertaining when he does land a big punch, but up until that point they are very boring and tactical, and this fight was that except for the total of 3 right hands the entire fight. Wladimir desearves the criticism hes been getting, the klit fanbase are just to distraught to admit it. This must be the denial phase, next step is accpetance and then recovery.

Sorry widow, vladimir is no joke but this performance was.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

1. stop blaiming the boring fight on sultan, if he would of pressured klit he would of of gotten ko'd immediately. Its not his fault that he didnt commit suicide and open up with overly aggressive punches and create so many easy holes for klit to land that right hand.

2. klit could of ended the fight any time he wanted, if he would only of stepped up the tempo and of taken a chance with that 1-2. This was an obvious mismatch from the 2nd round on, sultan posed almost no threat to klit with his telegraphed, curved punches, hes not a power puncher anyway. Vlad wasnt in there with an offensive machine like C Sanders, and he wasnt in any danger of gassing during this jabfest.


This fight reminds me of May-Baldomir except people would probably rather watch Mayweather do his slick moves than watch a Klit jabfest. Klitchko fights can be entertaining when he does land a big punch, but up until that point they are very boring and tactical, and this fight was that except for the total of 3 right hands the entire fight. Wladimir desearves the criticism hes been getting, the klit fanbase are just to distraught to admit it. This must be the denial phase, next step is accpetance and then recovery.

Sorry widow, vladimir is no joke but this performance was.
Wow.

Thanks for illustrating the huge double standard in this post. Thanks.

[YOUNG*LORD]

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Go on and hate.He's good but he really lacks the killer insinct...:deal

[kg0208]

Wow.

Thanks for illustrating the huge double standard in this post. Thanks.
Gotta agree....that particular post was a double standard. I think it's A double standard though. I don't feel there is a double standard overall with Wlad Klitscho.

[Ethan Trims]

Wow.

Thanks for illustrating the huge double standard in this post. Thanks.

let hear you analyse it, and tear it apart, go ahead you made this thread looking for an arguement anyways.

[Jack]

Mate, you say it's alright that Sultan did fuck all, because he would have been Koed. However, Klitschko was wrong to not risk it? Can you not see the double standard here? If the fight was close, then, yeah, I could see what you're saying. However, Ibragimov was getting shut out and still did nothing at all. Wlad didn't need to do a thing. Sultan did.

It's pretty clear from the reaction to this bout, that too many fans judge boxers on their last fight.

[Punisher33]

The Brock fight was boring too, until Wlad caught him with the huge hook in the 7th I believe, even the Brewster fight was lame, Wlad was just throwing the jab mostly. I think Wlad is extremely talented and skilled, but he is certainly lacking something, wether it's a strong chin, killer instinct, or just weak mentally, I dont know, but he does look afraid to get hit, I just hope other Heavyweights are good enough to pick up on this and maybe try to exploit Wlads weakness' in the ring.

[kg0208]

I actually liked the Brock fight. Klitscho was doing a good job of breaking down what Brock was doing and waiting for his opening.

That's what made this particular fight so infuriating to me. He had broken down Ibragimov's style and his weaknesses by the 4th or 5th round, and he didn't take advantage of it. Honestly, I though Brock was a more dangerous puncher.

[Ethan Trims]

Mate, you say it's alright that Sultan did fuck all, because he would have been Koed. However, Klitschko was wrong to not risk it? Can you not see the double standard here? If the fight was close, then, yeah, I could see what you're saying. However, Ibragimov was getting shut out and still did nothing at all. Wlad didn't need to do a thing. Sultan did.

It's pretty clear from the reaction to this bout, that too many fans judge boxers on their last fight.

Vlad was in control of the fight not sultan, he had his jab shoved in sultans face the entire fight. Its near impossible for a guy with diminished size to get past that jab without eating a right hand, he knows he stood no chance going toe to toe with him.

As for Klit he didnt have much risk at all with sultan, like I said before, Sultan doesnt have Sanders reach and power, and Klit wasnt in danger of gassing himself out like in Brewster fight. He could of easily of slipped that right hand after the jab many many more times than he did in the fight. Its just something mentally wasnt or isnt there with him, he has all the skills, the physical tools but something with him is mentally lacking. Its hard for me to blame sultan for the fight when he had very little control over it.

[Punisher33]

I actually liked the Brock fight. Klitscho was doing a good job of breaking down what Brock was doing and waiting for his opening.

That's what made this particular fight so infuriating to me. He had broken down Ibragimov's style and his weaknesses by the 4th or 5th round, and he didn't take advantage of it. Honestly, I though Brock was a more dangerous puncher. The brock fight was a little lackluster, until Wlad landed that devastating hook, that punch look like his elbow went through his head. The only reason Brock was somewhat known for his power, was because the knockout of the year against Zuri Lawrence, who was already knocked out by 5 or 6 guys, ranging from nobodies to guys like Iggy, Guinn, and Thompson, his record before fighting Brock was like 20-12, the guy had extremely weak chin.

[kg0208]

Vlad was in control of the fight not sultan, he had his jab shoved in sultans face the entire fight. Its near impossible for a guy with diminished size to get past that jab without eating a right hand, he knows he stood no chance going toe to toe with him.

As for Klit he didnt have much risk at all with sultan, like I said before, Sultan doesnt have Sanders reach and power, and Klit wasnt in danger of gassing himself out like in Brewster fight. He could of easily of slipped that right hand after the jab many many more times than he did in the fight. Its just something mentally wasnt or isnt there with him, he has all the skills, the physical tools but something with him is mentally lacking. Its hard for me to blame sultan for something he had very little control over.

Sultan had control over his actions, just not the consequences of them. You cannot let him slide because he didn't act based on fear of being stopped. If Klitscho didn't act based on the same thing, then they should both be held accountable, not just Klitscho.

[kg0208]

The brock fight was a little lackluster, until Wlad landed that devastating hook, that punch look like his elbow went through his head. The only reason Brock was somewhat known for his power, was because the knockout of the year against Zuri Lawrence, who was already knocked out by 5 or 6 guys, ranging from nobodies to guys like Iggy, Guinn, and Thompson, his record before fighting Brock was like 20-12, the guy had extremely weak chin.
It's not the reason I knew him for his power. Brock had decent power. 29-0 with 22 KO's isn't a weak puncher. He was sneaky. I didn't feel it was boring. I thought it was tactical.

[Farmboxer]

Vlad's talent and skills made his fight with Ibragimov very easy, very oneside fight.

[Punisher33]

It's not the reason I knew him for his power. Brock had decent power. 29-0 with 22 KO's isn't a weak puncher. He was sneaky. I didn't feel it was boring. I thought it was tactical. Fear enough, but Iggy had a similiar knockout ratio, and alot of people were questioning his power, it's not that hard to pile up KO wins over limmited competition, I feel Iggy has got more pop, alot of Brocks punches are arm punches, he doesnt put the weight behind his punches the way true knockout artists do.

[Farmboxer]

Vlad is simply the very best.

[Ethan Trims]

Sultan had control over his actions, just not the consequences of them. You cannot let him slide because he didn't act based on fear of being stopped. If Klitscho didn't act based on the same thing, then they should both be held accountable, not just Klitscho.



But vlad had much much less risk involved then sultan. And Iggy might have had control over his actions, but he had little control over the fight, vlad did though.

[djrock247]

He was fully capable of stopping Sultan.

That he won the fight without taking chances says to me that he is a very good boxer but also he's a bit gunshy.

It says to me that a lot of people lost money betting on a Klitschko KO. Wink wink.:smooch Looked to me like someone was on the take.

[kg0208]

But vlad had much much less risk involved then sultan. And Iggy might have had control over his actions, he had little control over the fight, but vlad did.
I am not saying you can't hold Wlad accountable for not taking him out when it was clear to nearly everyone that there was very little risk from Ibragimov. However, Ibragimov came to win. If he wasn't going to take the necessary chance to do so, then he either DIDN'T come to win, or was scared out of taking the chance once he realized he wasn't going to win with the gameplan he came in with. I certainly think he should be held accountable for this.

[sugarngold]

Klitschko is a firm believer in the old adage "win this fight and look good in the next one." Too bad the next one never comes.

[Jack]

Its hard for me to blame sultan for the fight when he had very little control over it.Come on! he could have tried a lot harder than he did. from about the 8th round, he had accepted he fact he couldn't win and di nothing to try and do so. Getting battered or not, Ibragimov was not trying to win that fight. He could have done so much more than he did, and that was absolutely in his control.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Klitschko is a firm believer in the old adage "win this fight and look good in the next one." Too bad the next one never comes.
This is the retarded type shit that I am talking about. So... Klitschko hasn't looked good then? Those 4 great performances in a row, 4 knockouts... they weren't good performances, right?:-(

[Ethan Trims]

I am not saying you can't hold Wlad accountable for not taking him out when it was clear to nearly everyone that there was very little risk from Ibragimov
However, Ibragimov came to win. If he wasn't going to take the necessary chance to do so, then he either DIDN'T come to win, or was scared out of taking the chance once he realized he wasn't going to win with the gameplan he came in with.

There that mike tyson saying "Everyone has a gameplan until they get hit." Im sure if Iggy knew of a way he could of changed the fight up he would of, its just those heavy right hands can change some people thoughts very easily. Sure both of them are to blame but I blame Vlad more for not taking advantage of openings and creating them then I do Iggy for not taking dropping his defense and sticking his chin on a platter. Even if I am exaggerating a little bit we both know if Iggy would of opened up more he would of been knocked out.

Did you read Widdows post that it was Sultans fault the fight was boring?

[kg0208]

There that mike tyson saying "Everyone has a gameplan until they get hit." Im sure if Iggy knew of a way he could of changed the fight up he would of, its just those heavy right hands can change some people thoughts very easily. Sure both of them are to blame but I blame Vlad more for not taking advantage of openings and creating them then I do Iggy for not taking dropping his defense and sticking his chin on a platter. Even if I am exaggerating a little bit we both know if Iggy would of opened up more he would of been knocked out.

Did you read Widdows post that it was Sultans fault the fight was boring?

No I haven't. But his general stance at this point is well known to me. I don't agree with it in some regard, but he is right that Ibragimov has some of the blame here. I also agree with him that Klitscho didn't throw the right hand because he thought it was an unnecessary risk. I simply don't agree on WHY he thought it was an unnecessary risk. I think Wlad is a bit weary of getting clocked. These are not mutually exclusive points of view.

[sugarngold]

This is the retarded type shit that I am talking about. So... Klitschko hasn't looked good then? Those 4 great performances in a row, 4 knockouts... they weren't good performances, right?:-(

Retarded is as retarded does. :yep

Those fights were OK. I'm not hating - just being honest. Which one of those four great KO's wound up on fight of the year or round of the year or knock out of the year lists? The last fight that klitschko really impressed me in was against Peter. He's just not an exciting fighter. If I was hating - I would add that Klitchsko is not an exciting fighter except for when he's getting blasted into the canvas. :deal In reality, Klitschko hasn't had the proper dance partner to put him in an exciting fight as of late. I'm hoping for the Peter rematch as soon as possible.:bbb

[Farmboxer]

Defense is part of ring generalship. Vlad was criticized for knocking out Austin in the second round! Vlad has excellent stamina, everyone claimed that Vlad can't go the distance,etc., it does not matter what Vlad does, the retarded do not know any better, only their prejudice.

[BewareofDawg]

It was late last night, around 11:30pm and I started watching this fight. Now I got home from training at 10pm and usually i can't sleep for a few hours due to the blood flow and adreneline. I put this fight on and was out like a light by the 5th round! Being Honest here, no bullshit :lol:

[Mendoza]

It was late last night, around 11:30pm and I started watching this fight. Now I got home from training at 10pm and usually i can't sleep for a few hours due to the blood flow and adreneline. I put this fight on and was out like a light by the 5th round! Being Honest here, no bullshit :lol:

Rounds 6 to 12 were fine. Wlad tagged Sultan good twice at the end of the 11th, and had a knock down blown by the ref.

[BewareofDawg]

He couldny finish him off because he has no heart, balls or guts. He is a disgrace to the Heavyweight Title.
Wlad KTFO Jack Johnson :deal

[bachatu]

Its interesting that for some reason, in order to defend Klitschko and release the responsibility on him, people are giving Ibragimov all the blame and are trying to make him seem like the slickest, quickest south paw to come out of the wild-wild West. Let's be real. It was clear that from round 3, after Wladimir was slapping Sultan's pathetic thing of a jab, and countering with his own jab, Wlad was able to measure, land, and hurt Ibragimov at will. The way the fight was going up into the 4th round, IMO, was good. He was setting up what was to SUPPOSED to come next, and to what was expected of him; a KNOCKOUT. However, the reason why people are putting the blame on Klitschko is because he did not even go for the knockout. There is a difference people. All the things you guys say make sense if Klitschko had made the effort to take Ibragimov out of there. The fact is that although he had the opportunity to do so, starting of the 3rd or 4th round, he never pulled the trigger for whatever reason; instead, he decided to continue to slap Sultan's paw and counter with his own jab, without finishing or actually doing the job. Klitschko was a contractor that night, who did all the prep work for the job, but never actually DID the job. Therefore, he did not get paid for the job. In other words, he isn't getting credit for that performance, and that's why he is getting critized.

[Drexl]

Keep it coming guys. This is exactly what I was looking for. I can't get enough of it.

You managed to find 3 seconds of action in that fight!

Congratulations! :good

[fitzgeraldz]

He couldny finish him off because he has no heart, balls or guts. He is a disgrace to the Heavyweight Title.


Wlad beat the shit out of Ibragimov -- he won every round and boxed supurb.
At times you seen him on his toes something you don't often see in the HW division - especially a guy as big as Wlad.

The right hand hurt Ibragimov ...

but he didn't need it -- he smashed this guy with one hand.

A win is a win no matter how it comes - there was no dispute to who won the fight.

[fitzgeraldz]

Jack Johnson wouldve gotten knocked out -- he was barely 200 pounds.
A coulpe of jabs from Wlad would killed Johnson. You also have to factor in speed and balance.

[fitzgeraldz]

He is not only a disgrace to the Heavyweight Division, but to all contact sports.

Name a HW that won all of his fights by KO?

He doesn't have to knock everyone out - no man can meet those expectations.

I'm sure that anyone criticizing Wlad can not take one of his punches flush. It'll knock you out or possibly kill you.

Appreciate the man for doing something that few have the courage to do - step in that ring and fight.

[fitzgeraldz]

I guarantee you as well that Wlad would knockout any HW in the MMA with a flush combo.

Considering his size, speed, balance, and the size of the gloves -- it would no contest.
Don't think that wrestling or jujitsu would come into play, if you're in arms reach of this guy you're going to get hit. The MMA fighters, although skilled in what they do, lack the head movement and the proper balance to come with an effective attack on an elite boxer.
If you come out looking to aim for his legs then you will more than likely get caught on the way in and on the way down.

[RUSKULL]

Nice! :good

[RUSKULL]

Please. Jack Johnson would do to Wlad 25 times what Fat Sam Peter did. Wlad looked like a prostitute getting bitchslapped by Issac Hayes in that fight.

Oh stop, when has Peter ever looked good?

[HOF]

Wow surprised the highlights reel lasted that long

[RUSKULL]

Its interesting that for some reason, in order to defend Klitschko and release the responsibility on him, people are giving Ibragimov all the blame and are trying to make him seem like the slickest, quickest south paw to come out of the wild-wild West. Let's be real. It was clear that from round 3, after Wladimir was slapping Sultan's pathetic thing of a jab, and countering with his own jab, Wlad was able to measure, land, and hurt Ibragimov at will. The way the fight was going up into the 4th round, IMO, was good. He was setting up what was to SUPPOSED to come next, and to what was expected of him; a KNOCKOUT. However, the reason why people are putting the blame on Klitschko is because he did not even go for the knockout. There is a difference people. All the things you guys say make sense if Klitschko had made the effort to take Ibragimov out of there. The fact is that although he had the opportunity to do so, starting of the 3rd or 4th round, he never pulled the trigger for whatever reason; instead, he decided to continue to slap Sultan's paw and counter with his own jab, without finishing or actually doing the job. Klitschko was a contractor that night, who did all the prep work for the job, but never actually DID the job. Therefore, he did not get paid for the job. In other words, he isn't getting credit for that performance, and that's why he is getting critized.

4 KO's & 1 lopsided UD in his last 5 fights...............

Nothing to be ashamed of there, cut Wlad some slack.

[BoxingGuru]

Please. Jack Johnson would do to Wlad 25 times what Fat Sam Peter did. Wlad looked like a prostitute getting bitchslapped by Issac Hayes in that fight.

Obviously you're full of fucking shit, considering Wlad won every single round except the one LEGIT knockdown, the other 2 bullshit behind the head punches mean nothing.

Let's add another top 10 fighter Scam Cheater can't knockout to his list.

[Punisher33]

Its interesting that for some reason, in order to defend Klitschko and release the responsibility on him, people are giving Ibragimov all the blame and are trying to make him seem like the slickest, quickest south paw to come out of the wild-wild West. Let's be real. It was clear that from round 3, after Wladimir was slapping Sultan's pathetic thing of a jab, and countering with his own jab, Wlad was able to measure, land, and hurt Ibragimov at will. The way the fight was going up into the 4th round, IMO, was good. He was setting up what was to SUPPOSED to come next, and to what was expected of him; a KNOCKOUT. However, the reason why people are putting the blame on Klitschko is because he did not even go for the knockout. There is a difference people. All the things you guys say make sense if Klitschko had made the effort to take Ibragimov out of there. The fact is that although he had the opportunity to do so, starting of the 3rd or 4th round, he never pulled the trigger for whatever reason; instead, he decided to continue to slap Sultan's paw and counter with his own jab, without finishing or actually doing the job. Klitschko was a contractor that night, who did all the prep work for the job, but never actually DID the job. Therefore, he did not get paid for the job. In other words, he isn't getting credit for that performance, and that's why he is getting critized. Best post of the thread, this is exactly how I seen the fight. It was like watching a average movie, just to see a spectacular ending that you thought was right around the corner, unfortunately that wasnt the case in this fight, instead, many people like my self, regret not going out and instead watching the most boring fight of the year.

Wlad did what he had to do, and won the fight, know one could fault him for that, however, fights like these will never draw in a new audience, if anything it might turn guys that normally watch boxing, into MMA fans. This was a failure by Wlad on the big stage, if he really wanted people to know who the true champion was, he should of showed it, instead he was rewarded by a rain of boos for his lackluster effort.

[Beatboxer]

Its interesting that for some reason, in order to defend Klitschko and release the responsibility on him, people are giving Ibragimov all the blame and are trying to make him seem like the slickest, quickest south paw to come out of the wild-wild West. Let's be real. It was clear that from round 3, after Wladimir was slapping Sultan's pathetic thing of a jab, and countering with his own jab, Wlad was able to measure, land, and hurt Ibragimov at will. The way the fight was going up into the 4th round, IMO, was good. He was setting up what was to SUPPOSED to come next, and to what was expected of him; a KNOCKOUT. However, the reason why people are putting the blame on Klitschko is because he did not even go for the knockout. There is a difference people. All the things you guys say make sense if Klitschko had made the effort to take Ibragimov out of there. The fact is that although he had the opportunity to do so, starting of the 3rd or 4th round, he never pulled the trigger for whatever reason; instead, he decided to continue to slap Sultan's paw and counter with his own jab, without finishing or actually doing the job. Klitschko was a contractor that night, who did all the prep work for the job, but never actually DID the job. Therefore, he did not get paid for the job. In other words, he isn't getting credit for that performance, and that's why he is getting critized.

Good post and im a Wlad fan.

What I will say is he does deserve to be cut some slack. A lop sided win over a fellow title holder is nothing to be ashamed of...in entertainment terms I was disappointed but pleased as it wasn't as stressful as many other exciting Wlad bouts..

You can be sure there will be more highlight reel kos to come from Wlad in the future.

[boxeo#1]

How do you judge enough? He won the fight... seems like it must have been enough. Enough to please his critics? They are never pleased.

Very true.

But you ain't gonna convince me that it was impressive and exciting:nono

[fitzgeraldz]

Not all fights are going to be impressive and exciting.

The most important thing is that you win and win convincingly - you can always look good the next fight.

[fitzgeraldz]

at the end of the day Klitschko hasn't lost in almost 4 years, racked up 2 belts in the process, and avenged his loss against Brewster (corner stopped the fight)

He also beat 4 undefeated fighters in the process; ibragimov, brock, peter, and castillo.

[boxeo#1]

Who said every single fight is/has to be exciting?

Wlad is the best heavyweight in a very weak era. Period.
So he is good, compared to them.
But since we are in professional boxing where it's all about business he is damn boring compared to you name them.
So boring imo that I prefer watching Olympic/amateur boxing.
Wlad has a nice personality.. but not my type of fighter.

But in the end it's all just my opinion and what I think.

Ah I love esb for always giving the opportunity to get things of your chest.

[rendog67]

i seriously didnt want to watch any of that snoozefest again. WTF was this about anyway!