Chris Byrd is going down to light Heavyweight!!!

[tays001]

just heard form the TALK of Boxing. CRazy but exciting he should have some real Ko Power down there. thing is i heard JC KO'd byrd in the amatures. would be an intresting rematch:happy :happy

i think he'll be very dangerous for any one

[Farmboxer]

If he can get there, then good for him. He will be much better at that weight.

[kirk]

LIGHT HEAVY.... as in... 175lbs? i dont think he can get there.

[PH|LLA]

he will see that his speed is nothing famous at LHW and will lose his first real challenge by wide UD

[Farmboxer]

I think there is a very good chance that Byrd can make some huge waves at 175!

[Sister Sledge]

He's too old to lose that much weight and think he can win a title.

[Flatlander]

This is bogus. There is no way that Byrd gets down to lt heavy.

[kg0208]

I dunno, I think Byrd can make some noise there. Alot in fact.

[Flatlander]

Byrd is to old and slow for lt heavy or cruiser for that matter. He is done. He needs to retire.

[compukiller]

He's too old to lose that much weight and think he can win a title.

He's been walking around at 180 lbs, according to the story.

[MacManJr.]

If so many people think Oscar can't make 147 then WTF makes anyone think Byrd can make 175?! I hope the same people ain't saying this!

[MacManJr.]

He's been walking around at 180 lbs, according to the story.That is absolutely amazing if true!

[Flatlander]

He's been walking around at 180 lbs, according to the story.

He would have to had lost 20 pounds of muscle weight. Not likely.

[compukiller]

He would have to had lost 20 pounds of muscle weight. Not likely.

That wasn't really muscle. He always had to bulk up to get over 200, and had to eat and lift weights. Even then, he was coming in at 215 or less alot of times.

[compukiller]

That is absolutely amazing if true!

He says he did it by just running. He always had to do alot to stay over 200 lbs.

[Flatlander]

That wasn't really muscle. He always had to bulk up to get over 200, and had to eat and lift weights. Even then, he was coming in at 215 or less alot of times.
At 215, Byrd had less than 10% body fat. I am telling you, that he could not possibley get down to 175 without harming himself. Never the less, he would be outclassed at lt heavy by any top 10 righter in that weight class. Byrd only looks fast against bigger, slower, heavyweights. Hell, Oquendo out-sped and out worked Byrd, OQUENDO!!!! THE BIG ZERO!!!

[bruce_keyes]

um Am I the only one that can see this fight happening??
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[emanuel_augustus]

Byrd was able to use his advantages of speed and quickness against bigger fighters.

He always struggled against lighter, faster guys, and is less effective against boxers that are more his size and speed.

Always been a fan of Byrd, but not sure how this helps him to drain down to 174 at this point. He had a good career, but it's over for Chris.

Remember too that he promised to fight at Cruiser for years, ever since before the Tua fight, but that never happened. I'll be shocked if he pulls it off.

[Farmboxer]

Byrd should work his way down to Cruiserweight, then lightheavy. He could very well be great at either weight.

[tays001]

he said he's at 180 right now

[Asterion]

He could get to Cruiserweight, but no way he goes down to Light Heavyweight.

He's too old also. He will lose to the first challenge that steps in front of him.

[Farmboxer]

"IF" he is already at 180, then is has only 5 lbs. to go! He just might do it. He has enought experience to know if that weight is right for him.

[MasterFlo]

We all know Chris fought much much smaller in the ams, and that he is quite a small heavyweight. I think he was bulking up to make heavyweight, and if he cuts instead of bulks for fights then there's no reason he couldn't make it. Honestly I see him fighting at Cruiser though, I think he could get to LHW but it'll just be too much.

[FRKO]

What weight was Chris at when Calzaghe beat him?

That was Chris' only loss in the amateurs, btw. He's had a lot of amateur fights! Something like 275.

[Flatlander]

What weight was Chris at when Calzaghe beat him?

That was Chris' only loss in the amateurs, btw. He's had a lot of amateur fights! Something like 275.

:huh Got me, never knew they ever fought.

The last time that Byrd was under 190 for a fight was 1993. :yep

[FRKO]

Cool. Thanks.

[tays001]

What weight was Chris at when Calzaghe beat him?

That was Chris' only loss in the amateurs, btw. He's had a lot of amateur fights! Something like 275.

midlle weights and JC ko'd him for got who gave me the link i think it was amsterdam or mastercalzghe

[Flatlander]

midlle weights and JC ko'd him for got who gave me the link i think it was amsterdam or mastercalzghe

That is a totally unconfirmed rumor. I sent an email to Chris. I will let you know if he responds.

[tays001]

That is a totally unconfirmed rumor. I sent an email to Chris. I will let you know if he responds.

is it cuz i remember getting the link

[Flatlander]

is it cuz i remember getting the link

I read it too but the source is a notorious rumor mill and usually wrong.

[FRKO]

I'd like to know for sure too. I didn't see any link, I heard it from a fight commentator if I remember correctly...

[Kolya]

What weight was Chris at when Calzaghe beat him?

That was Chris' only loss in the amateurs, btw. He's had a lot of amateur fights! Something like 275.

It was not Chris' only loss in the amateurs. :roll: A lot of people seem to blow amateur records way out of proportion. Everyone loses as an amateur; and almost always more than once. Chris went to the 1992 Olympics and won a Silver Medal, meaning he lost in the finals. So that right there is at least 2 losses.

[Kolya]

I don't see it listed anywhere; but if he lost to Calzaghe, there's that one. Then he lost to Todd Foster at the 1988 Olympic Trials. He lost to Torsten Schmitz at the Goodwill Games, and to Ramon Garbey of Cuba later on; and then at the 92 Olympics he lost to Ariel Hernandez, I believe.

[huki]

LHW sounds a bit crazy and Byrd has exaggerated in interviews on that site in the past. Cruiserweight is a lot more realistic. He didn't look horrible in the Povetkin fight and maybe he could get a belt at cruiser if his stamina is good enough.

[FRKO]

It was not Chris' only loss in the amateurs. :roll: A lot of people seem to blow amateur records way out of proportion. Everyone loses as an amateur; and almost always more than once. Chris went to the 1992 Olympics and won a Silver Medal, meaning he lost in the finals. So that right there is at least 2 losses.

What can I say man, I can only quote what I've read. I'm not yet a member of the Chris Bird fan club or anything. ;)

[tays001]

I read it too but the source is a notorious rumor mill and usually wrong.

LOL well if you get the answer let me know i don't want to be spuing BS:yep

[tays001]

I don't see it listed anywhere; but if he lost to Calzaghe, there's that one. Then he lost to Todd Foster at the 1988 Olympic Trials. He lost to Torsten Schmitz at the Goodwill Games, and to Ramon Garbey of Cuba later on; and then at the 92 Olympics he lost to Ariel Hernandez, I believe.

where did you get this from i've beeen looking for both amature records to confirm or elminate this thing:good

[Kolya]

where did you get this from i've beeen looking for both amature records to confirm or elminate this thing:good

I can get hold of his record from major US and International tournaments through USA Boxing. Those are the major losses as a senior I know of.

[tays001]

I can get hold of his record from major US and International tournaments through USA Boxing. Those are the major losses as a senior I know of.

yeah i posted this question in the thread answer to this rumer. som e one answered it was true but no info

[Deslizer]

LHW? Byrd can fight a rematch with His Ottkeness there...

Note: Ottke beat Byrd on Points as middleweights in the amateurs

[Fighting Fisherman]

Obviously Chris is moving to Light Heavy because there are some big money fights at the weight. I'd love to see him in against RJJ!

Good luck to Chris...

[Rudolph]

Amature losses don't mean jack. Wlad Klitschko lost to Krasniqi in the amateurs ffs

[Boxfan1]

Maybe cruiser, but there is no way he can make lhw. No way on earth.

[BewareofDawg]

Why is he leap-frogging Cruiserweight? Not smart.

[AG11]

Byrd has also claimed that he would be fighting at CW (sometime last year). I think he has to actually land a good fight where he will make a good payday in order to make this a reality.

[ApatheticLeader]

I don't know why, but I believe he probably could make it down to light-heavy. Anyway whatever fight class he decides to fight at, I wish him the best.

[BewareofDawg]

He should just fight Wlad again. I wouldn't mind watching his wife bitch him out for the entire time and then him stand around with his family in celebratory fashion that he's still alive :patsch

[11player]

It's commonly known that Byrd walks around at 190lbs.

He always had to put on wheight to fight at HW.

[MacManJr.]

Obviously Chris is moving to Light Heavy because there are some big money fights at the weight. I'd love to see him in against RJJ!

Good luck to Chris...That's the fight I wanted to see after RJ beat Ruiz!

[getup]

I think he is walking around at 180..,i read his workout and diet when he was a heavy..,the guys a pure ectomorph...,ill bet he'll have a light heavy fight in a couple months:thumbsup

[ChrisPontius]

That wasn't really muscle. He always had to bulk up to get over 200, and had to eat and lift weights. Even then, he was coming in at 215 or less alot of times.

Well he said earlier that he left training camp for the Klitschko fight at 203lbs and ate himself up to 215lbs... but surely, he carried not that much fat on him. I'd be very surprised if he got all the way back down at 175, he'll inevitably lose muscle in the process and risk pulling a Roy Jones.

[Tuavale]

Bad idea. Heavyweights don't move down 40 pounds, especially at 37 years old. He won't do well if he does make that weight. The Byrdman really ought to consider letting boxing go. He's been an amazing over achiever. There is no sense getting himself hurt.:smoke :smoke

[elTerrible]

If he would have done it earlier then it might have gone somewhere, but he is too old these days, I dont think he will do well.

[jc]

Its one of those things that could work in theory but probably wont.

Byrds main asset was his speed and elusiveness at heavy, he will find that at 175 he wont be that quick nor that elusive. His power in theory should be much more effective fighting smaller men, and he would in theory be stronger than everybody there.

But there are some stumbling blocks. Byrds age. Can he even make light heavy, if so he must be seriously weight drained after fighting at heavyweight for so many years, and if he is weight drained he wil come in weak, their for the asset that theoretically gained by moving down in weight are diminished, as nothing is more easy to bully around than a tragically weight drained boxer.

I think overall its a bad idea, he should see how he does at the 200lb limit first, before even thinking about 175.

[Brickhaus]

Its one of those things that could work in theory but probably wont.

Byrds main asset was his speed and elusiveness at heavy, he will find that at 175 he wont be that quick nor that elusive. His power in theory should be much more effective fighting smaller men, and he would in theory be stronger than everybody there.

But there are some stumbling blocks. Byrds age. Can he even make light heavy, if so he must be seriously weight drained after fighting at heavyweight for so many years, and if he is weight drained he wil come in weak, their for the asset that theoretically gained by moving down in weight are diminished, as nothing is more easy to bully around than a tragically weight drained boxer.

I think overall its a bad idea, he should see how he does at the 200lb limit first, before even thinking about 175.

Good analysis. Pretty much agreed. What made Byrd good was that he was quick for a heavy and could take a punch from a heavy. I suspect his record wouldn't have been as glossy had he stayed at LHW his whole career. I can't imaging his power would follow him down, and he'll just be a slowish LHW boxer who can get outboxed by quicker fighters.

[BoxingGuru]

I think he'll do fine because all he does is run and paw the whole time. He'll lose to anyone good though. I think Roy Jones kicks his ass at LH even now.

[Thread Stealer]

I think he'll do fine because all he does is run and paw the whole time. He'll lose to anyone good though. I think Roy Jones kicks his ass at LH even now.

How did that annoying, pawing, slapping, feather-fist do against Brittley Quitschko, the man a high KO percentage?

Remind me, who won that fight again?

Also, I seem to remember Byrd beating an in-shape top 10 contender in David Tua.

Remind me, when did Quitali beat a top ten contender who was not overweight or old (or both)??

[LockDog387]

Byrd probably wants to fight at LHW since their is bigger names. A fight against Chad Dawson would be an interesting match, but I expect Dawson to beat him. Byrd should of been fighting at LHW a long time ago.

[sean]

I don't see it listed anywhere; but if he lost to Calzaghe, there's that one. Then he lost to Todd Foster at the 1988 Olympic Trials. He lost to Torsten Schmitz at the Goodwill Games, and to Ramon Garbey of Cuba later on; and then at the 92 Olympics he lost to Ariel Hernandez, I believe.
it was chris byrds last amatuer fight that he lost to calzaghe

calzaghe stayed amatuer for another 9 months i remember as he won the 93 aba title


it was in an international tournament in italy in november 1992 after chris byrd`s olympic effort.

i have seen the rounds by rounds at all weightclasses and fighters from first round to last in a tennis type graph.

calzaghe and byrd met in the final of the 165lb division.
calzaghe won ko 3.

it was an intresting tournament lots of famous fighters from all weightclasses took part.

[lbarrow]

If so many people think Oscar can't make 147 then WTF makes anyone think Byrd can make 175?! I hope the same people ain't saying this!
well its completely different dlh started his carreer at super feather where as byrd has always campaigned at heavyweight as a pro. at his age i do not believe for one second he will make that.
he shoul;d go to cruiserweight.

chris byrd vs thomas adamek is interesting.

byrd wins by ud in my opinion.